sort of psy-op kind of manner, is that putin's expectation was that ukraine would fall and it seems to have trickled down to the morale of his troops, that -- to the degree they even knew what they were doing, director brennan, they didn't think they were going to war in a prolonged manner in ukraine, a country that their leader, vladimir putin, describes as a land made up of their brothers and sisters. i want to understand, in your view, how all of those things, you would assess, are playing into what we're seeing. i want to start with something that president zelenskyy said about how this war will go. and to john heilemann's point of sort of the definitions of winning is losing. let me play this first. we don't have it. we're going to find this. this is president zelenskyy, asked by lester, if kyiv falls to the russians, does the entire country fall to the russians? president zelenskyy says this. our people are unconquerable.