witnesses are going to be first call. you said about the sandoval hearing, the sandoval hearing where currently these potential cases, past trial determinations from the e. jean carroll suit to the fraud trial, if donald trump were to testify there are current deliberations to the extent which the prosecution could cross examine donald trump about those cases. this will come down to the determination of the judge in the upcoming hours. >> so let me bring you in on bonds reporting. it was not lost i guess on the jurors that this tragic event took place outside. tell us what that was like. >> we're not sure what they know or what they knew when it was going on. but they left and i'm sure they saw the commotion and have seen what happened. it was really striking, though, because we were inside the overflow room, most of the reporters are in overflow room because the actual courtroom is kept empty so the jurors can queue and they're not seen by reporters. we were all there right as it was announced that we had a full complement of jurors and