the president of the united states remains unequivocal tonight, standing firm behind his decision to put an end to u.s. involvement in afghanistan. back with us tonight, former under secretary of state for public diplomacy and public affairs in the obama administration. former managing editor of "time magazine." rick, what went wrong and which do you think will be remembered, the ending of 20 years of conflict or the way it ended? >> well, it's a little too soon to tell. brian, i mean, you know, i think of what my mother used to tell me when she said there's never the wrong time to do the right thing. and that's essentially what president biden said today. he said, if this had been easy, it would have been done before this. and he did do the right thing.