briefly recently defendant trump making that point. take a look. >> i was paying a lawyer. and it was a legal expense, an accountant, i didn't know, mark it down as a legal expense. that is exactly what it was. and you get indicted over that. >> so to finish this point, in your experience, working for him as a client, does he get that kind of argument from the lawyers and his understanding that this is going to be useful in the case, or is he pushing that argument on the lawyers? >> well i think it is consistent with what the evidence here is. because they have an invoice from michael cohen asking to be paid that. so, when you have michael cohen giving an invoice saying it is for legal fees, it is then paid as legal fees and it is annotated as legal fees, it would make sense that is exactly what he's going to claim. >> so how do you deal with on this topic, the tape?