will that be the case if trump were to be eleisured? you heard him say, well, then all bets are off. biden could be charged for mismanaging the border, which is not a crime. but he was forecasting what trump would do. he said there would be cycles of recrimination that would shake or democracy. >> why do you think the lawyer legally did such a poor job? just pleasing the client? >> i went to law school with him. he was in my section. it brought back some memories. >> meaning what? he was always like this? >> he wouldn't answer the question. he would talk over a professor a bit. i think that's kind of his style. >> let's slow down. when the judge says we've established your answer is no, and he says a qualified yes --