basically going back behind closed doors to take initial closed door depositions from these new witnesses before deciding whether they too will go onto be part of any public proceedings. so, yovanovitch wrapped today at this public hearing. but immediately after the committees, foreign affairs and oversight, they went behind closed doors at the secure room at the capitol to take a closed door deposition from david holmes. now, david holmes is a career foreign service officer. we heard about him for the first time though not by name at the first public impeachment hearing that happened this week when ambassador bill taylor broke this surprise news. >> last friday a member of my staff told me of events that occurred on july 26th in the presence of my staff at a restaurant, ambassador sondland called president trump and told him of his meetings in kyiv.