i love the ethnic aisle. it's like a place to brows and find stuff that i haven't heard of. or it's just the place where i know i can get some of the weirder things i need to make some of my weirder dishes. and so i've always embraced the ethnic aisle as just a simple organizational tool in the grocery store. but that might make me a lazy ethnic person. i'm not sure. >> oh, i would never call you such a thing. before we pause, what is one of these weirder dishes that you make that you're talking about? >> there's a really delicious iranian dish, fesenjan, a pomegranate, molasses, walnut chicken dish. so there's a weird one. >> that sounds -- brandy, jameel, i don't know, i would try it. >> doesn't sound bad at all. >> i would try it. >> i'm a mom of three and a full-time reporter, so basically i eat half-eaten hot dogs for