Supreme court. We want all voting to stop. We dont want them to find any ballots at 4 00 in the morning and add them to the list, okay . At this hour the electoral count is now biden 227, donald trump 213. Neither reaching the required 270 electoral votes to win the white house. Key battleground states that remain undecided include michigan, wisconsin, pennsylvania, nevada, georgia, and arizona. On capitol hill, democrats have a diminishing chance of regaining the senate. They even lost seats in the house. Biden has an easier path to get over the top but President Trump could still eke out a victory and is threatening legal challenges that could delay a resolution for weeks if not longer. Joe biden told supporters he feels good about where things stand and that the decision is up to the American People, not either of the candidates to declare a victory. I am here to tell you tonight, we believe were on track to win this election. [ cheers and applause ] were going to have to be patient until we the hard work of tallying the votes is finished. And it aint over til every vote is counted, every ballot is counted. And more ballots have been counted. Nbc news now projects that maine goes to biden, three of maines electoral votes. That is a split. There are four electoral votes, there is one Congressional District that goes to donald trump. Msnbcs ali velshi is at the big board with a look at where things stand. Ali, maine is the latest. Good morning, andrea. If donald trump had one of these, he might be a little less enthusiastic about calling it for himself. 228 in the biden column, 213 in the donald trump column. Youve just given four of those, three of the congressional votes in maine to donald trump. So this is what were looking at right now. There are 26 combinations of these gray states left for joe biden to win the presidency. There are 19 combinations left for donald trump. Now, lets take a look at how these are looking right now. We are still looking, you talked about all the states were looking for. Lets talk about the remaining vote in nevada. 86 are in. Were still looking at a very large chunk of votes coming in in the las vegas area, a little bit in reno. In las vegas, theres a difference of 60,000 separate them in clark county. Were still waiting for 16 of the vote to come in. Lets take a look at a few other places where the vote is going to be important. In georgia, again, the trump lead there statewide is 101,000 votes. Seems like a lot, but lets take a look where the remaining vote is. Again, its in the atlanta area, in cobb county outside atlanta and Dekalb County outside of atlanta, not Fulton County where atlanta is. But between these two counties, well over 140,000 votes still to come in and in those, heavily africanamerican and otherwise more progressive parts of georgia, that could swing toward donald trump. Pennsylvania, weve been talking about this for weeks, pittsburgh, allegheny county, has started to give us some more results this morning. But were still expecting Something Like 2 million votes in pennsylvania. Many of those are mailin votes. Many of those are expected to break for joe biden. Look at these counties around philadelphia. Youre familiar with them, andrea. Youve got Montgomery County breaking for joe biden, 6038. Chester county breaking for biden, 5345, a little closer. Youve got delaware county, south of philadelphia, 5939. Youve got Philadelphia County itself, take a look at this, thats actually closer than you would expect. 77 for biden, 21 for trump. But 62 are in. There are so many votes, these are advance votes, mailin votes that havent been counted, that youre going to end up with much more of a difference here. Take a look at this map, these bubbles, as you know, show whats remaining to be counted. Allegheny county, pittsburgh, lots of votes remaining to be counted there. Philadelphia county and the collar counties around philadelphia, lots of votes to be counted there. Harrisburg, a little smaller. The bottom line, lots to be counted there, and the same story in michigan. Weve got votes outstanding in wayne county which is right around detroit. That is, again, an area that is expected to break for joe biden. So with 92 in there, youve got a 31,000vote lead for joe biden. And thats only expected to increase when these votes come in, andrea. Ali velshi with the very latest. And with so many states still in play, both sides claim they have the edge. Who has the advantage given the outstanding vote . David plouffe ran president obamas successful 2008 president ial campaign, joins me now. The count, 227 for joe biden, 213 for donald trump. David, a lot has changed since we spoke monday afternoon. What do you expect to see in the coming hours and into the evening of this incredible ongoing saga of our election . Well, andrea, theres going to be a lot to unpack in the days and weeks ahead about what happened in these states. Right now, joe biden is in the lead. Donald trump is talking about stopping counting. If the counting stopped, joe biden would be the next president of the United States, and hes going to be. I think we see the lead in michigan growing. Expectations are, as we again the count, the mailin ballots in pennsylvania, again, in pennsylvania, michigan, wisconsin, these are all ballots that were cast in some cases weeks and weeks ago but by state law they were prevented from being counted until today. Georgia will be very close. Arizona may tighten but i expect joe biden to maintain his lead there. And that second Congressional District of nebraska, certain scenarios are very important. This is now, joe biden is in a commanding position from an Electoral College standpoint. I think we just have to wait and see. Looks like well get most of the vote in georgia today, most of the vote in arizona today. We may not get the whole vote in pennsylvania. Joe biden is ahead in the states he needs to be ahead in to get to 270 electoral votes and maybe quite a bit north of that. It does seem that joe biden underperformed with some key groups in pennsylvania. I was just talking to a philadelphia elected official or someone working with an elected official there who said that they are still trying to figure out why votes they think exist from philadelphia have not been recorded by the secretary of states office, that there is a lag, if you will, not sure why that happens, nothing really mysterious about it, its between democrats and democrats so theres no conspiracy here, its just process. But in any case, right now it is clear that right now, it doesnt look as though philadelphia produced any more and perhaps even less of a black vote out of the city of philadelphia than it gave to Hillary Clinton which we know was not enough to withstand all of the donald trump vote. That is not what we expected. Well, well see, andrea. I mean, this is a tough election to unpack because you have all of the inperson votes. In pennsylvania, thats what we know so far. So even in philadelphia, i would expect those biden margins to expand. Trump, you know, got what he got on early vote im sorry, on election day, in places like milwaukee, in places like philadelphia, but i expect that margin to expand. Clearly you saw the turnout in milwaukee was enough. Same thing in detroit when we see all that. Listen, there was a sevenpoint swing nationally in suburban counties from 16 to 20 and i think thats the most important signal component in joe bidens advantage position. The other thing i would point out is, joe biden is going to be our next president , and young people delivered this victory for joe biden. His margin amongst young people, people under 29, is going to be higher than Barack Obamas in 2012. So i think the reason the race is closer than it looked in polling, and you and i talked about this, ive talked to a lot of your colleagues, a couple of things had to happen to make this a close race. One, the polls had to be off, and they were. In some states like arizona, not terribly off. In others, you might see misses of 5 to 6. But trump needed to get strong election day turnout, which he did. He won wisconsin four years ago. Hes going to lose wisconsin, getting over 1,600,000 votes. The Trump Campaign did a very good job of turning out their voters but joe biden was able to withstand that. Why didnt the democrats do a good job of turning out their voters . Im just they did, andrea. They were able to get over 1,600,000 votes in wisconsin which is a crap ton of votes. Well be able to unpack what happened, where turnout was off and where it wasnt. Donald trump delivered a big turnout. Well have the biggest turnout in president ial history in over a hundred years. We shouldnt focus on how this differs from the polls. That isnt what im asking. Im asking is there something fundamentally wrong theres something fundamentally wrong in our politics in both parties, but arguably donald trump has been breaking all the norms for four years, yet he has higher fafsh favorables in the exit polls than four years ago when he got more votes. Is there something wrong with the messaging, the structure, or the organization of the Democratic Party, that someone who democrats think is so wrong did so well . Well, it is sad and distressing to me that this many people look at donald trump and say i want to sign up for a second term. But we are a very divided country. I think, listen, when all the votes are counted, joe bidens likely to have a bigger popular vote win than barack obama had in 2012. Yet we had a convincing Electoral College victory. I think joe biden is going to win the Electoral College but it will be more narrow. So listen, donald trump is a turnout machine in 2020. I think thats what we saw. Joe biden was able to withstand that. But yeah, i think when you look at this many people around the country deciding that someone who messed up the pandemic, who has caused a lot of death, crashed the economy, clearly is stoking racial divides, is a misogynist, is a narcissist, i would like to see that person get 35 of the vote, not 47 or 48 of the vote. But this is a closely divided country and theres going to be a lot of lessons Going Forward about how the democrats can take advantage of some of the positive demographic trends. But you cant just count on that. The good news if youre a democrat, i think, in 2018 and 2020, you were able to win states like wisconsin, michigan, pennsylvania, looks like arizona, perhaps georgia. So there are positive developments out there. David plouffe, thanks very much, thanks for engaging, always good to have an afteraction report from an expert. Thank you. And the biden camp is expressing confidence about michigan and pennsylvania. Who has the best shot to carry those states . Joining us, congresswoman Debbie Dingell and congresswoman madeleine dean. Welcome, both. Weve been talking about pennsylvania, congresswoman dean, let me ask you, youre from one of the collar counties and we expect they will deliver a lot of this mailin vote. Are you confident, as the biden camp is today, that youll carry pennsylvania . Im feeling very optimistic. Thank you for having me, and hello, debbie, great to see you and the great work youve been doing. Im feeling confident and optimistic but we have to let people finish the work ahead of us. Its very hard to practice but ive been saying all along, we have to have patience and let the people do the work of counting all the votes. Here in Montgomery County, as you were pointing out on the board, we still have 60,000 mailin ballots, a little more than that, to be counted in Montgomery County. And joe biden, Kamala Harris, have a 6137 point lead. I expect that lead will continue and widen. Im feeling optimistic. We have to do our due diligence, we have to be patient. This process is working and it is secure and its interesting that donald trump would like to stop the count. And congresswoman dingell, and i should be congratulating both of you because both of you came through with flying colors, but congresswoman dingell, what about michigan . Were seeing the biden vote coming in throughout the morning. What do you think, when do you think the state can be called . I think our secretary of state said it takes until friday. I think we could know as early as Late Afternoon today. Were waiting for the counts to come in for a number of the larger cities, which just as madeleine said, its the absentee ballots were counting, and their split has been almost identical to pennsylvania, 61 for joe biden, 38, 39 for President Trump. Look, andrea, as you know, i refused to say what was going to happen, what i thought would happen in this election until over the weekend. I have been out there, ive been talking to people, ive been looking at the numbers. Women came out and made a difference, voted in far larger numbers than they did four years ago. And as madeleine said, and i love being with her, love being with you, none of us have been to bed, probably, in two days, but when all the votes are counted, and we all that to every Single Person across the country, to count them in a methodical, calm, secure way, joe bidens going to win michigan. Youre waiting on detroit, flint, grand rapids. Where do you see it coming down, whats your best estimate now, based on what you know is coming in . I think it will be ive always said maybe 4 , 5 . I think that it is going to be it will be larger than donald trump won michigan four years ago. And its going to be a clear it will be by a large enough amount that it will not get an automatic recount, though we know the lawyers are there. Everybody has to stay calm and let the votes be counted. All of us, republicans and democrats, have to learn how split this country this and why, and we all have a responsibility to try to do something to bring us together when this is done, no matter who is president , though i think it will be joe biden. If joe biden is elected, he is going to face the same problem a newlyelected democrat had, hes got Mitch Mcconnell who will vow from day one to block any of his initiatives. Let me ask you, congresswoman dingell. Well, for starters, that number will be even smaller. I think that many of those senators are going to be looking at elections in two years from now. And this is where i say to the American People, you need to tell the people that represent you, you want action. I know they want action on a heroes bill. There are people that are republicans and democrats that are hurting from covid right now. They are desperate for the United States congress to stop this partisan bickering and get something done thats going to help them. There are a number of issues that weve got to roll up our sleeves. And people like madeleine and i who are committed to working with our colleagues across the aisle are going to do just that. And thats our job. And i think joe biden will do that. Hes said he will be the president of everybody. He has a history of bringing people together. Thank you both for joining us. I know its been a long night for everybody. Thank you, congresswoman dean and Debbie Dingell, of course. I want to turn to nbcs blayne alexander in atlanta where were getting updates from georgias secretary of state. Blayne, what are you hearing . Reporter andrea, we just heard from the secretary of state about 30 minutes ago. He told us a number of things. One, that there are about 200,000 outstanding votes still waiting to be counted and tabulated and scanned here and the vast majority of those are absentee ballots and the vast majority of those come from Fulton County and Dekalb County, counties were watching very closely. Both are in metro atlanta. Thats significant because when you look at georgias map, you usually see a vast majority of red. But you see a blue clump kind of right there in the middle, and that is metro atlanta. And thats the area that gives democrats so much hope for flipping this state blue. It typically breaks democratic. Once we get those votes counted from fulton and dekalb counties, of course, its expected to give at least a moderate boost to the democrats. When we talked to the the secretary of state, he said that he anticipates having all the votes counted by the end of the day. But again, andrea, that all comes down to the counties. Thats really what the secretary of state tried to emphasize. We know that both fulton and dekalb counties, speaking with officials there, theyre working diligently. Fulton county had people counting, scanning all morning long to get those ballots tabulated but the state can only do as much as the county can do. I asked him, does he believe theyre on time. He said, despite what appear to be delays, he does believe their timing is right where he expects it to be and he hopes to have those numbers by the end of the day, andrea. Blayne alexander, thank you so much. Lets go to nbc correspondent Peter Alexander and kristen welker. The president said in the middle of the night that millions of votes shouldnt be counted, including pennsylvania. Is he taking further action today or is he backing off . Reporter andrea, in the last 20 minutes on twitter he wrote, they are finding biden votes all over the place in pennsylvania, wisconsin, and michigan. He says, so bad for our country. To be clear, theyre not finding biden votes all over the place, they are counting biden votes and trump votes in many parts of the country right now including those states, as they try to tally up the conclusive numbers from those locations right now. Thats just one of whats been a series of sort of points of disinformation from the president as it relates to what he said at 2 30 in the morning in those remarks, again, prematurely and falsely declaring victory. This morning, twitter flagged him with one of those warning labels calling the content of one of his tweets misleading and disputed when he said, among other things, about the numbers that hes seeing right now, he said that his numbers, his lead was, quote, magically disappearing, as he described it, saying surprise ballot dumps were being counted. There is no evidence of anything fraudulent taking place at this time, no surprise ballot dumps as the president likes to describe it. What it does reveal is this need within the Trump Campaign to find additional votes around the country. One of the paths were hearing from inside the campaign that theyre looking at is to try to win back arizona thats leaning toward biden, win georgia where they have the advantage right now, and then hold on to that lead in pennsylvania. They believe that may be their best, though challenging, way to get to 270, andrea. And kristen welker, weve already heard from the Biden Campaign this morning. Why dont you recap what theyre saying, they had a conference call. Reporter they did, andrea. You and i were both on it. As you know, they are feeling increasingly confident about their chances to pull out a victory here. And i am told that when Vice President biden speaks a little bit later on this afternoon, youre going to hear that confidence in his voice. Hes going to express the fact and really double down on what he said last night, that he feels as though he is on a path to victory. Why are they feeling so confident inside the Biden Campaign . Ill tell you, a couple of states theyre watching very closely and they like what they see, they like whats happening in wisconsin, in michigan. They say nevada is trending their way. Theyre also watching arizona quite closely. Then of course you have pennsylvania, that allimportant battleground state. President trump made 14 stops to pennsylvania, andrea, more than any other state that he was fighting for, of course it was his home state where he was born, yet it remains very close there. In talking to officials in pennsylvania, and i know you have been as well, they say this is what they expected. They expected President Trump to have a lead coming out of election day because what is happening now and whats going to happen over the next several days is that they are counting all of those mailin ballots. As we have reported, those mailin ballots, particularly in a state like pennsylvania, trend typically towards democrats. So we still have to count all of them up and see what happens. That is why democrats are not giving up on the state of pennsylvania despite the fact that right now you see President Trump with a lead there. Now, we also have the campaign firing back at President Trump for falsely claiming victory overnight. The Campaign Manager calling the president s comments outrageous and dangerous. So i wouldnt be surprised if we heard the Vice President echo that as well as he becomes increasingly bullish about his chances to win the white house, andrea. Kristen welker, Peter Alexander, what a team you guys are, weekends and weekdays. Thank you so much. The u. S. Postal service failed to meet a federal judges deadline to permit a search for 300,000 missing mail ballots at postal facilities in key battleground states including pennsylvania, georgia, wisconsin, and arizona. Federal judge Emmet Sullivan had wanted the search done by election day. The Postal Service says it was done by last night. But it doesnt say at what time. Joining me now, nbc news correspondent Geoff Bennett whos been tracking all of this. Whats the latest . Reporter andrea, there is a hearing thats ongoing right now, an emergency hearing, a status conference that judge sullivan set. And he made clear at the start of this hearing that he was not happy with the Postal Service, telling the lawyer for the u. S. Postal service that someone might have to pay for this. What he was talking about was the fact that this agency disregarded, entirely blew through a courtordered deadline for postal inspectors to sweep postal facilities in some dozen states for roughly 300,000 ballots that cannot be traced. These are ballots that have scans showing that they were entered into the Processing System but there is no scan showing that they were sent out. Now, i have asked the Postal Service where are these ballots, in what states do we know that these 300,000 ballots exist. The spokesperson for the Postal Service did not answer that question. But we do know, based on information that the Postal Service has given the court, that there are processing delays that existed on election day across the country and in battleground states, to include states were watching closely right now like georgia, pennsylvania, north carolina, wisconsin. In central pennsylvania there is a processing score of 61 . What that means is, lets say on election day ten ballots came through, only six of those actually went out. So its a huge issue. You have potentially thousands of voters, perhaps unknowingly being disenfranchised. As weve been reporting for two days, this is a tight race and there are any number of ballots that have not been counted because of these delays, andrea. Geoff bennett, a really serious problem, and it happens to be of course in some of the most heavily contested districts in pennsylvania. Joining me now, Pennsylvania Attorney general josh shapiro. Attorney general shapiro, can you give us an update, is there any improvement on the counting of the ballots today . The update is the law is being followed in pennsylvania. Weve said all along in the months leading you want to election and the litigation we went through, that our goal was to make sure everything was secure, protected, when the votes counted. So we secured and protected the election. Now those votes are being counted. Andrea, theyre being counted by Public Servants in counties all across pennsylvania. I think that count is going smoothly. Obviously its taking longer than folks would hope. But i would say in the grand scheme of things, its better to wait a little bit of time in order to get an accurate, lawful count. Thats what were doing here in pennsylvania. Peter alexander was just telling us the president had tweeted within the last 20 minutes that ballots for biden are popping up everywhere in pennsylvania and all these other states, whats going on, and its bad, casting suspicion, throwing shade on the whole process. Whats your response to that . The only thing thats going on in pennsylvania right now are Public Servants in our communities are counting legal, eligible votes. And i guess what i would just say, respectfully, to everyone right now is to say, look, lets take down the temperature. The campaigns are over. The candidates made their case. And now all of these legal ballots are being counted. And thats what we need right now. Give the Public Servants the opportunity to do their job. And what i will tell as you that here in pennsylvania were going to follow the law and we will respect the will of the people, and a proper victor will be certified based on who got more votes. We just have to take the time to tally up those votes and thats what were doing right now. There are people in philadelphia involved in the process who say that its taking too long to have the state acknowledge the ballots that have been sent from pennsylvania, that there is a lag time, that theres a process problem. Is that the case, do you think . Look, i dont know, i think thats a question for the department of state. Theyre the interface with the various counties. There may be, there may not be, andrea, i just dont know. What were focused on is making sure the laws are followed, that all these eligible votes are counted, and that the will of the people is reflected in the ultimate outcome. Pennsylvania attorney general josh shapiro, thank you very much. And waiting on wisconsin. The battleground state remaining too close to call. Well have an update on the state of the race there, coming up next. Plus close biden adviser, delaware senator chris coons is here. 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Com right now and see how much you can save. And now to another big battleground. Were learning new information from the Wisconsin Elections commission about the outstanding vote in that battleground state. Nbc political reporter Shaq Brewster spent plenty of time in wisconsin throughout the campaign season. Shaq, we understand there are about 20,000 votes that biden has an edge right now according to the latest count. How much is outstanding, still to be counted . Reporter thats right, andrea. We just heard from the Wisconsin Elections commission, theyre having a meeting, a press update right now that just started. But we saw on twitter, they clarified a statement made by the administrator of the state elections official. Im going to read a little bit of that statement. They just say, to the best of the Election Commissions knowledge, there are only two small wisconsin towns that have not reported results to their counties. The total number of voters in those towns is around 600. So you see that margin in wisconsin, its about 20,000 votes separating Vice President biden and President Trump at this point. The Wisconsin Elections commission is saying based on what they know, there are two towns with about 600 potential votes that are outstanding at this point. What we heard from the administrator of the Elections Commission just about an hour ago was that there were no counties that havent reported the results. She said that most of the vote totals have been made already, that that has been publicized at that point. But now were hearing that clarification that there is about 600 votes outstanding, well below that margin were seeing from the Election Commission at this point. Again, theyre having a media update right now. So if theres any new information, well be sure to let you know. In fact i think we can listen in to a little bit of what theyre saying right now, shaq, stand by for a second and lets bring them on in. Our election was executed with precision. And its also you know, every step of the process is publicly observable. And i think thats really important. Every step of the elections process is publicly observable. You can observe election day, voters casting their ballot. You can observe the votes being tallied at night. The Voter Registration records are public information. The absentee data is public information. Each of the results are posted on the counties websites. Again, our job as Election Administrators is to follow the law. And what the law says is that on Election Night, that each municipality submits their unofficial results, unofficial being the keyword, to their county. And the county then posts the unofficial results by reporting unit on their website. There is no certified Election Night aggregate of results. That is according to state law. That is not a process that we made up or adopted. That is according to state law. And we followed state law. Part of democracy is following the laws that have been prescribed by our elected lawmakers and the elected lawmakers have prescribed this process for canvassing in our jurisdictions. I am incredibly proud of the work done by wisconsins Election Officials. And i feel 100 confident in the election that they conducted, and that the laws that were established by our elected lawmakers were followed in yesterdays election. So theres no calling elections at the state level, right . Thats called certification. And certification is a very meticulous, careful process that commences with the certification at the state level on december 1. Up until that point, there is no statewide aggregate. There is no calling of the election. Any of those predictions that youre hearing are predictions by the media and other groups based on unofficial results. And i just think thats so important. I know for so many of us, weve spent the last few months talking about this, about the mechanics. Today its important to continue to convey that message that weve all been working so hard to understand exactly how the process works and bring those mechanical facts to wisconsin voters. Unfortunately earlier this morning i may have misspoken about all of the unofficial results being in from our municipal clerks around the state. Again, we have 1,850 municipal clerks around the state. It looks like, looking through all those county websites, that every single one of those jurisdictions has submitted their unofficial results except for one tiny township of less than 300 voters. And theyre working to get their ballots finished and counted and posted as we speak. And so beyond that, we have no reason to believe there are any other ballots that have not yet been counted and included as part of those unofficial totals. But again, the canvass process, so important, right, the canvass process is where the municipal Election Officials doublecheck all of the results to make sure that they have the correct number of registrations, to make sure that everything checks out. Then the counties, they do the same. So today at 4 00 is actually the deadline for the municipalities to start their canvass process and to then route the materials over to the counties where they start their certification process at the county level. They, again, do those double checks. All this publicly observable. You can go watch in your local communities, if youre skeptical about the process, engage. You can go watch the process in your local community. And so then it goes to the county level. They do their double checks. From there it comes to the state. By state law, on december 1, at the Public Meeting of the Wisconsin Elections commission, is when those results are certified. And thats when we will have the official winner. Well have the official results of the election at that december 1 meeting as prescribed by state law. And that was megan wolf, administrator of the Wisconsin Elections commission. I want to thank Shaq Brewster, who has been following this all along, and it looks as though wisconsin, and i leave that of course up to the wizards at the decision desk who make the decisions at nbc news, but it looks as though certainly wisconsin is not very much in play. Now we turn to delaware democratic senator chris coons who won reelection last night, congratulations, senator. Obviously youve been in close contact with joe biden. How concerned is he about the president s attacks on the process . Well, andrea, were very optimistic. Given what you just heard from wisconsin, given what we likely will hear today from michigan about joe bidens prospects to be the next president of the United States, to win not just overwhelmingly the popular vote but to also win the Electoral College. And as you heard in that interview you just finished, our state and local Election Officials are meticulous, are thorough, are detailed. In our country its voters and then its state and county commissioners of elections and boards of elections that decide the outcome of elections, not candidates. So for President Trump to declare very early this morning, i think it was about 2 00 a. M. This morning, that he had won and he was going to go to court and try and get the counting stopped, was frankly both irrelevant and on some level outrageous. Ive spent, as you know, a lot of time in other countries, helping monitor their elections, supervise their progress towards democracy, and you dont get to just stop the counting at the moment when youre ahead. If we were to stop the counting right now, joe biden is ahead. But we want every vote counted. And there are still more than a million votes uncounted across several states. But given the trends and given where the ballots are still being counted, i think its very likely that wisconsin, michigan, nevada, arizona, will all go for joe biden. And frankly, ultimately, a few more days from now, pennsylvania. And i think in the end, we will see joe biden win pennsylvania, wisconsin, and michigan by bigger margins than donald trump won them in 2016, making this an historic and important victory for joe biden and Kamala Harris. Senator, how disappointing is it that the Senate Results look as though not only will you not gain control but that you may even have a smaller margin, that this was the best opportunity this year for democrats . In 2022, its going to be that much harder. Well, andrea, there are a number of unresolved senate races. It is frustrating that a number of folks came up short. We had great candidates and a lot of resources. But at the end of the day, what matters is getting every vote counted. And we still have some outstanding races. Obviously in georgia there will be a runoff in the first week of january. In north carolina, in maine, in other states theres races not yet concluded. But the larger point is that ive supported joe biden from the outset because i believe hes the candidate and likely next president who can bring us together. If we have divided government, were going to need leadership from someone who unites us rather than divides us. With Mitch Mcconnell in charge, isnt it inevitably going to be the same result that barack obama faced where he could get nothing done because of the implacable opposition of the Republican Party . We dont yet know, andrea, which party will control the senate. Mitch mcconnells obstructionism while ive been in the senate and hes been majority leader has been maddening and has prevented a lot of progress. Well have to find ways to Work Together no matter which Party Controls the senate. I think joe biden is exactly the sort of candidate, given his years of experience in the senate, his ability to bring people together, even in this difficult and bitterly divided time. I think thats why a lot of people voted for joe. I think thats why youll see him get a Record Number of votes in this election, is that they look for someone who can actually transcend some of these deep divisions. One of the really frustrating and difficult things about President Trumps leadership during this pandemic and the recession, this moment of reflection on racial division, is the ways in which when he sees divisions in our country, he makes them greater. When joe sees division in our country, he helps to heal it. Senator, how frustrating is it, though, that at least 47, 48 of the American People who voted disagree with your vision, with democrats vision, with joe bidens vision of what the norms should be for the president of the United States . Well, andrea, as you know, i pay a lot of attention both to whether we are solving peoples problems here in the United States. Im willing to work across the aisle with virtually any of my colleagues to try to get good things done. But im also concerned about how we are seen in the world, and our standing in the world and our ability to be a model democracy. One of the things i will take some encouragement from is that instances of voter intimidation and ballot misfunctions, difficulties, have been far fewer than we might have expected on this election. In the primaries over the last several months, state after state saw very long lines, huge frustration, ballot difficulties. Although there is still of course Voter Suppression and real challenges in terms of opening the right to vote to as Many Americans as we can, this election mechanically has gone off fairly well. And i do think that helps strengthen our standing in the world. It is of course challenging to have divided government, if thats where we end up. But that just means were going to have to work harder to listen to the American People and to address their real needs. Thats why im confident joe biden and Kamala Harris will be the best leaders for us for this coming four years. Congratulations again, newlyreelected senator chris coons of delaware. Lets bring in our panel, michael steele, Senior Adviser at the Lincoln Project, phil rucker, White House Bureau chief for the washington post, and yamiche alcindor, White House Correspondent for the pbs news hour, welcome all. Michael steele, let me ask you about the Republican Party. Where do you go now, where does the Republican Party go, the people in the Lincoln Project, nevertrumpers, former republicans, all of those, National Security and military officials who came out against donald trump . He is the Republican Party now, isnt he . [ inaudible ] michael, im sorry. We have an audio problem. I got it, i got it. There you are, its the mute button, ive done it myself so many times. There you go. And i thought i was hearing you, thats how tired i am. My apologies. Very quickly, to catch up, you know, yeah, hes the titular head of the party, has been since 2016, when he received the nomination. Hasnt he solidified his support . More than solidified the support. But the results of the election arent over. And as were seeing the evidence come in, as the votes continue to get counted, and every vote will be counted, and a winner will be determined by that, we believe that donald trump will lose this election. And we believe that joe biden will be elected the next president. And then whatever comes after that for the gop will flow from that. So Lincoln Project and other republicans and former republicans out there will continue the work of trying to resolve internally and resurrect the party in a way that it can become a governing majority in the future, because those principles, andrea, and those ideals that we espouse, that drew me to the party over 40 years ago, to me still matter. And im not walking out the door because donald trump has come in the back door. Im just not. Hes not a conservative. Hes not a republican. Hes not made a case to the American People for those principles. The party has no platform, so it has no belief system other than what Donald Trump Tells it. Thats not viability in the eyes for the future of the party, irrespective of what we see in the vote so far in this election. And phil rucker, we just heard from the administrator in wisconsin that there are only some 600 votes out, 300 in one small town, and they believe theyre very close to at least certifying their results without the formal official act that takes place on december 1. In any case, bill stepien now says the Trump Campaign is going to challenge the results, with about a 20,000vote advantage for joe biden. Yeah, andrea, the democrats, those on the Biden Campaign, believe quite confidently they have wisconsin in hand at this hour. But the Trump Campaign is warning of lawsuits, theyre warning of the possibility of a recount, trying to challenge that vote count, that vote total, in particular looking at the mailin ballots which we know to be legal ballots. But youre going to hear arguments from the Trump Campaign that somehow those are improperly counted or should not be counted or are illegal because they came by mail even though thats part of the Legal Process as weve all been discussing today. And so look for legal skirmishes there. But its important to keep in mind that the Biden Campaign, of those three midwestern states, wisconsin, michigan, pennsylvania, as of this hour, they feel quite confident about wisconsin and think the vote totals are very much in bidens favor. And yamiche, the nbc news exit poll shows that support for biden reached a new low among black men this year. Only 80 of black men supported biden, slightly down from Hillary Clintons level of support in 2016, significantly down from obamas level of support from 2012 and in 2008. I understand the vote in philadelphia, theyre still counting, but that thats not going to be a great outcome either from philadelphia. Thats right, and there are differences between black men and black women in terms of how they view this election, in terms of their tolerance, critics of the president would say, for misogyny, for statements that are at times sexist, again, from critics of the president. That being said, focusing on africanamerican voters is only one part of this picture. When you see the president being able to run up his numbers with white voters, with noncollege educated white voters, when you look at florida, for instance, and you see the president really being able to find some new voters. The Trump Campaign had been saying for a long time that even though the president sounded like he was talking to his base, that he was also talking to new voters and those new voters were overwhelmingly white. So i think there will be some soul searching in the Democratic Party to try to bring in more black men, to try to understand why were having this close, close election, and why africanamerican men and latino men tend to, it seems like, be more in favor of President Trump than in the past. The president is focused on white voters in a lot of ways, and the Trump Campaign pushing for the counting to happen, theyre saying in their argument they want the votes to continue but theyre really being couly i here, saying we want these votes to be counted but possibly not these votes, meaning democratic votes are problematic for them they feel like their lead will continue to go up in key states. Yamiche alcindor, michael steele, phil rutger, thank you to you all. I know no ones had any sleep. We should all take care of each other. Ahead, will the gops legal challenges to voting laws make their way to the Supreme Court. Youre watching Andrea Mitchell reports here on msnbc. 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The president is threatening more legal action today for more on where we stand on all things legal, i want to bring in nate pri silly, professor of law at stanford and former Research Director at the president ial commission on election information. Good to see you today. We talked late last night, early this morning, i dont know which it was, following a lot of legal battles in pennsylvania. More to come. A lot of threats from the white house. Do they have an effective case to make about the accoucounting these ballots . Well, were still in the prelitigation phase. We still need to count the ballots in order to figure out whether there are problems with them, and so it may be that once the ballot ballot are counted that the margins of victory are significant enough theres no point in litigation. You may remember 20 years ago, bush versus gore litigation made a lot of sense. Right now were just trying to figure out what those margins are and need to count every vote. And by casting so much shade on the whole process, what is the risk there for the public discourse, for peoples confidence in the election . Well, it was already fragile coming into this election, and i think that in some ways the narrative were seeing now is the continuation of what we had seen before, frankly what weve seen for four years. Even after the 2016 election, President Trump cast doubt on those results saying that he may have won the popular vote as well. So i think americans were primed for discussions of fraud in the absentee ballots in particular, so this is, i think, a continuation of that narrative. And what do you think the next step is going to be with the republicans threatening to take action here, there, and everywhere . Well, you need a reason to take action. Its not as if you can go to the Supreme Court and they have some kind of end the vote count switch that they pull and then everything stops. There has to be some argument as to why ballots that were legally cast cant be counted. And so what i would expect is over the next day well get a near full count in these battleground states, and that if there are problems then those doubts will be challenged. We should all hope whoever wins that the margin is big enough so that legal challenges wouldnt prove successful. Thanks very much, thanks for being with us. And that does it for this very special edition of Andrea Mitchell reports. After a quick break ari melber will be in for chuck todd for mtp dail mtp daily only on msnbc. Nbc. Uh, you know theres a 30minute limit, right . Tell that to the rain. [ beeping ] for those who were born to ride, theres progressive. Less oral steroids. Taking my treatment at home. Nucala is a oncemonthly addon injection for severe eosinophilic asthma. Not for sudden breathing problems. Allergic reactions can occur. Get help right away for swelling of face, mouth, tongue, or trouble breathing. 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