Really dont value the lives of americans. Great president s, real patriots, put priority on the lives and security of americans, over the image of themselves. Thanks for watching. Im al sharpton. Hardball starts right now. Allies. Lets play hardball. Good evening, im Chris Matthews in war time washington. Were at war right now. The United States is hitting syria with bombers, fighter planes and tomahawk missiles with two air strikes today. Five arab countries are joining in the war against isis. The al qaeda faction threatens to put bombs on u. S. Or european
airliners. Tonight we hit the isis battle from all angles, starting with the creation of the alliance with the United States, jordan, saudi arabia, United Arab Emirates and qatar. Who did this job of pulling these countries together, and how did they keep it secret . Its the best kept plan since our killing of Osama Bin Laden. My question tonight, will this alliance sell in the arab world . Will it convince arabs, that its them, not just the United States going after isis, the terrorists . Will this new alliance sell with the antiwar forces in america . Are people like me going to buy it . Well get to these questions and some others like the danger isis and this Al Qaeda Group khorasan pose to us here in the u. S. Also why its so easy for someone dangerous to go, as you see now, charging into the white house itself. Were going to have a great hardball round table for the second half of the show. Jonathan capehart, Michelle Bernard all joining us. The pentagon said today last
nights air strikes were very successful. Among the targets, isis training camps, Head Quarters and command and control facilities. The u. S. Military released some remarkable video showing several strikes against isis, like this strike on a vehicle staging area. Another video shows a strike by a u. S. Aircraft to a Storage Facility used by isis. And yet another one shows a u. S. Air strike on the isis compound near the groups headquarters in northern syria. The scope of the strikes caught some by surprise, referring to the initial strikes of the iraq war. One u. S. Official said about last nights campaign, it is shock without the awe. Today president obama praised the militarys effort, but cautioned this fight wont be short or easy. Last night on my orders, American Forces began strikes against isil targets in syria. The effort will take time, there
will be challenges ahead, but well do whats necessary to take this fight to the terrorist group. For the security of the country, the region, and the entire world. A spokesman gave a positive assessment of the air strikes last night. We think we were very effective last night. Were still assessing the results of the strike, but every indication is that we hit and our partners hit exactly what we were aiming at and that we have severely damaged their ability to sustain themselves and to command and control their own forces. Chuck todds, moderator of meet the press. Andrea mitchell joins us, also host of the Andrea Mitchell reports. And Michael Leiter is the former director of the National Counterterrorism center. First, i want to start with chuck. The white house role, this is like Osama Bin Laden getting killed, we didnt think it was coming, then a big splash. Not only that, doing it when they did it, the day before the president s going to new york, the United Nations. This is to start essentially dropping a bomb on the seventh different nation that this president has bombed or ordered an air strike on at some point. 24 hours before the start of the u. N. General assembly. Its not something that people would have pictured a barack obama doing seven or eight years ago. I think this was a way for the president to send a message to the arab allies, that he has resolve on this. Anybody questioning his resolve, and thats happened politically in this country, but its been happening overseas, i think in many ways, the timing of this, whether it feels as if this was meant to say, not only, lets go, the allies are there, but not a bad way to start the u. N. Meeting, which i think some people would have thought even a week ago thats not something this president would have done. Starting a war is hardly the stuff of a nobel prize winner,
but theres diplomacy at the heart of this thing. What do you think about john kerrys ability to round up people to fight the fight against isis . There have been a lot of skeptics about john kerrys trips around the world and back and the miles that hes logged. But he has very methodically in advance of the president s speech, gone from one country to the next and had a very unusual meeting with the saudis and with a group of nations. Thats how he put the pieces together. King abdullah of saudi arabia was critical to this effort and frankly the king and the kingdom have not been at all supportive of barack obama. Not since a year ago when they feel he blinked and didnt go after assad on chemical weapons, when he announced a red line and didnt follow through. So they had to be per stwaded that the president was serious. And kerry was the man to do it because they knew him for years, from the senate frern relations
committee and for all that kerry sometimes suffers from the white house very closeknit inner circle of the National Security council staff. He does have these relationships oneonone. And he built it piece by piece, block by block, very quietly and very effectively, and without broadcasting it to the public. Well done. Youre sitting on the ground, youre baghdadi, and youre watching all kinds of bombs coming down. Fighter planes attacking you, tomahawk missiles. And you hear on the radio, or voice of america, you realize they have arab allies, is that scaring you or not . Not yet. Because hes saying, we went through this before, in iraq in 2006 whether it was al qaeda in iraq. They dont have the staying power. So to start, youre not scared. Youre taking some hits, but the question is, does the United States have the staying power . Hes telling his guys, this is okay. Right now, were going to get more recruits. People are going to come to our aid. Were going to mobilize people overseas who werent even with
us. So thats the key for him. Hes saying the United States doesnt have staying power. Now the test will be, as this gets harder for us, because it will become harder to find them and kill them, how does it go . Well, im asking you. Is the United States stuck in this war now . We cant walk away in three months, saying we tried to get rid of isis, we cant, right . Hes gone through the door. Hes in it. Hes in it. Syria is a pandoras box. So the people of isil are wrong theyre wrong. Once youre in, i dont know how you extract yourself. Even if you wanted to, i dont think how you would. You train the moderate Free Syrian Army. If they fail, do you walk away . No, i dont think at this point you walk away. Andrea, youre an expert at this. Its interesting or sad that all
of our allies are not democratic. King abdullah of jordan, and then you go around, and theyre all trying to hold on to their thrones. This is not the arab spring. These are the arab militaries and theres qatar who helped fund the qatarys, the radical groups that were the precursor to isis. Thats why the United Arab Emirates and others and the saudis are so unhappy with qatar right now. But we embrace qatar because they have a brace. They do things for us. We need them more than they need us. Are they speaking, as the old cowboy movies would say, are they helping us with this, but also arming isis or funding them . Ask Michael Leiter, the
counter terrorism guy. She threw it to you. The two most important parties that came on board, the saudis, so much power and so much money. And the qatarys, the reason the qatarys getting on board is so critical, because its a sign they were not going to play both sides. If they were passive, they would say, yeah, we support you, the money might still be flowing. Theyre active participants what changed them . Why are they with us now . I think what changed them, isis was out of control and thats a threat to all of them. Certainly the geography, if everybody around them is in this coalition, bahrain, saudi arabia, they cant be the lone i want all three of you to weigh in here. Everybody tries to figure out the other side, like any contest, especially if war. What are they up to . When they started beheading our people, didnt they know they
were urging us into that war, that we had to fight that war out of pride . And if so, do they wear us down or do they want to bring us in . What former colleagues will tell you, the beheadings were an attempt to recruit. Exactly. They were an attempt to flex their muscle and say were the new guys in town. Dont go with al qaeda, were the ones putting this together. Look, i think they were questioning u. S. Resolve for quite a bit of time. Were they pulling us in, or push us out . They were flying the flag, saying we are the true jihadis. Were they aiming those beheadings at us to drag us into war or to recruit fellow islamists . I think both. I think its exactly right, this was a great recruiting tool for them and their battlefield successes in iraq, when the iraqi army folded and they took city after city. Mosul, fallujah and so hard fought for and losing those gains. But let me suggest there are some real problems with this military plan and the generals would be the first to tell you. They had recommended boots on the ground. We dont have enough spotters. We dont have people on the ground in syria. Thats one of the reasons why we didnt go in. General dempsey testified it would take up to a year to train 5,000 untested syrian fighters. So when the generals come back, sin com comes back and says, we need boots on thea ground. And he says theyll be regional boots, who will they be . [ all speak at once ] as you pointed out today, who was it . You were on earlier today, you made a really good point. You said that you had to have reports or you dont know who you hit. That was really smart. Putting all our chips with the Free Syrian Army, how did that iraqi army that we spent
years, over a decade training and funding and the first sign, the first time they had to do a fight without the United States, we saw what happened. And we think this Free Syrian Army is going to somehow in a year or two years . This is the part of the military plan we got to put it together. The ground and the air at the same time. Air power is great when you have fixed targets and theyre not quite ready. As they get away from that, as they go into the city, it gets harder and harder. I think when you get to block by block fighting, you cant bomb everybody or youll have nothing but enemies. Great show today on your part today. Thank you. Coming up, were hitting the war from every corner. Next the politics of selling it at home. President obama didnt expect to be a war president. In fact, he is now. Needs support from left, right and center, especially left. And getting by the left may be his biggest challenge. Plus Richard Engel on the arab response and where the arab street supports the arab
leaders, all of them monarchies who have also joined in the u. S. Air strikes against isis. Then were back with the hardball round table, whats the threat to americans at home . And how safe is the president s own home, the white house, following that stunning Security Breach on friday . This is hardball, the place for politics. Some come here to build something smarter. Some come here to build something stronger. Others come to build something faster. Something safer. Something greener. Something the whole world can share. People come to boeing to do many different things. But its always about the very thing we do best. British Prime MinisterDavid Cameron spoke to nbc news about the air strikes on isis in syria, saying this say group which poses serious threat to every country in the world. Theres no doubt in my mind, it has already undertaken and is planning further plots in europe and elsewhere, specifically in belgium, brussels. It was an isis plot that went into a Jewish Museum and killed entirely innocent people. And there are other plots they have been attempting including in my own country, in order to kill and maim innocent people, and the same applies to the
United States of america. So this is a fight you cannot opt out of. These people want to kill us. They have got us in their sights. Well be right back. I lost m; damaged my left eye. So many of these men and women have, have sacrificed so much. Through soldiers to summits, wells fargo supports our veterans by working together to climb mount whitney, these heroes begin their journey of healing. The wounds that you cant see, being with a team helps. You know if they can do it you can do it. Step by step, little by little, we can do a lot. Because small is huge. Live in the same communities that we serve. People here know that our operations have an impact locally. Were using more natural gas vehicles than ever before. The trucks are reliable, thats good for business. But they also reduce emissions, and thats good for everyone. It makes me feel very good about the future of our company. Our initial indication is that these strikes were very successful. Second, while its not our policy to discuss future operations, i can tell you that last nights strikes were only the beginning. Only the beginning. Welcome back to hardball. That was the Pentagon Press secretary. And more now on todays big story and our commander in chief who finds himself leading a war thats only just begun. President obama is now a wartime president , a remarkable change from the dove we elected, the Nobel Peace Prize winner. President roosevelt welcomed the transition from peacetime to war time, telling the press he was
going to change to what he had to be. The big question, will this president embrace his wartime role . And will the country rally behind him . Michael steels the former rnc and the former dnc chair and former governor of pennsylvania. One of my most famous quotes, to rooseve roosevelt, hes lying on the ground in hong kong, barely hearing the words of rose velt declare the war, and he said, i knew wed win the war because i heard roosevelt talking. Is obama capable of that . I dont know. And thats the question a lot of americans have on their mind, particularly after watching americans being beheaded on television, they appreciate the president s wednesday night talk where he came to us and laid out the next steps. But now the question is, are you ready to really lead us on this adventure . Such as it is. And the fact that hes taking stuff off the table. Hes still leaving stuff off the table, boots on the ground, gives people pause. You dont get to dictate the terms here. Isis, our partners in the middle east, there are a lot of players the table. You cant afford to leave things off if you take seriously the obligation to be the commander in chief. Can he be a leader thats convincing as a wartime leader, kill the enemy, take them down and be triumphant . Well, chris, i think he did a wonderful job deflecting any significant criticism from the Democratic Left by building that stealth coalition. I think people are shaking their heads and saying great job, mr. President. We actually have arab nations dropping bombs on arab terrorists. Thats a significant victory which i think ameal yorates a lot of criticism on the left. I think hes already set the table for good leadership. I think he and secretary kerry deserve a tremendous amount of
credit for putting this coalition together. Not just a coalition thats cheering for us. A coalition that actually dropped some bombs. I think it was very impressive and i think hes off to a great start. Governor, do you think this coalition is more incredible than the one w. Had . W. Would always talk about coalition forces, the polish or the portuguese. It was a strange team he threw together, a motley crue, you might say. But do you think its critical arabs are on our side now . Its enormously important. Theyre not just arabs willing to finance the war that never happened in desert storm despite we were promised. But these are arabs willing to do combat missions. I expect youll see a significant rallying around the president in the United Nations because he was able to build this arab coalition. I think hes done a great job. I think so too. But a war of choice, a war of necessity. How do you argue this isnt a war of necessity . How could we let them go behead our people . Thats the point, you cant argue isnt that a case for people following him into war because he had to . He had no choice. He was thrust into this fight. And now the question, i appreciate where the governors coming from, but, yeah, arabs dropping bombs is not the same as boots on the ground. Will arab boots be on the ground . Youre talking about, you have our Defense Department telling us its going to take a year to train 5,000 syrian fighters to deal with the fight in syria. Well, do we have that long . What happens in the interim . So there are a whole lot of pieces that need to get filled in. I applaud the president s determination to move in agenda forward and bring together the appropriate coalition. But i still have a problem with the idea that youre absolutely taking americans boots off the table and thats something we need to know, honestly, will there at some point be required . And the president has refused to answer that. Its interesting, some of the president s usual critics are in line with him now, including the hawks in the republican party. Theyre rallying behind him. U. S. Congressman peter king from new york tweeted all americans must stand with president obama in our war against isis, particularly tonights air strikes in syria. Thats from peter king. He also went on fox news to sound the war cry. Here he is. I think its important for all americans to support the president. I think its really important for all of us to come together. Whatever happened in the past, thats behind us. Its important now as americans that we go forward, support the president , and urge him to continue this to make sure these attacks continue and go on until isis has been devastated. I think hes a gut nationalist like i am, although we disagree on policies sometimes. A lot of times. Speaker john boehner said, i support the air strikes launched by the president. Senator Lindsey Graham voiced his support. Graham said he told vice
president biden he was very supportive of the administrations move. So what do you make of that, michael . Your crowd is moving around, moving into backing up the president , the hawks, the amigos, im waiting for mccain to jump aboard. And they should. The president has put us on a war footing. Is he joining them, or are they joining him . Theyve come to his position on the chessboard and theyre supporting him and giving him all that he needs. But what theyve given him so far is limited. Before they left town, they took this little bit of vote that says, okay, well authorize you through december. What happens come january . And the fact that the congress has not dealt with this by publicly debating this, involving the American People in this National Discussion is a little bit shameful. I appreciate getting behind the president but they have a role here to play as well, and the congress cannot stay away from that obligation long enough. I think to respond to
something from chris van hollen. He said the members should come back and vote on the use of military force for the current mission, but also says in the bill no ground troops, no iraq war two. So theres a smart democrat from the suburbs who is saying, were going to war, were going to get the bad guys, but were not going in on the ground, all in one resolution, doesnt that make michaels point that were halfhearted here . Well, sure it does. And the house literally slinked out of town and abdicated their important duty. I saw a democratic congressman complain that the president didnt have the authority. If you wanted to give him the authority, stick around, guys. Stick around. [ laughter ] it comes with ill grace to criticize when youre back home. But i think the president again has tied congresss hands. Once he got this coalition together, were going to send a message to the arabs who put their rear ends on the line, that were not going to authorize going to war. Of course not. The Congress Wants to lead from behind on this baby. Anyway, michael steel, sir, both chairman of the party at different times. Up next, Richard Engel is in turkey right now with a report on the response from the middle east to what the president has been doing. We may have support from some arab countries. How about the arab street . Are they with the kings and monarchs . This is hardball, the place for politics. Bonus cash back. And then those categories change every few months. One month its the gym. Next month its movie theaters . who buys that much popcorn . Get the quicksilver card from capital one. It lets you call the shots. With quicksilver you earn unlimited 1. 5 cash back on absolutely every purchase, everywhere. Now, isnt that how it should be . Whats in your wallet . And cialis for daily use helps you be Ready Anytime the moment is right. Cialis is also the only daily ed tablet approved to treat symptoms of bph, like needing to go frequently. Tell your doctor about all your medical conditions and medicines, and ask if your heart is healthy enough for sex. Do not take cialis if you take nitrates for chest pain, as it may cause an unsafe drop in blood pressure. Do not drink alcohol in excess. Side effects may include headache, upset stomach, delayed backache or muscle ache. To avoid long term injury, get medical help right away for an erection lasting more than four hours. If you have any sudden decrease or loss in hearing or vision, or any allergic reactions like rash, hives, swelling of the lips, tongue or throat, or difficulty breathing or swallowing,
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views our country with deep hostility and suspicion. Quote, the new air campaign in syria has drawn mixed reaction across the middle east, a region where many people hate the brutality of the Islamic State but are also deeply skeptical of the motives behind any type of foreign intervention, looming over the new campaign are memories of recent americanled interventions in libya and iraq which many arabs welcomed at first but later turned against. Is the arab street aboard this alliance . Reporter i think the New York Times had it right. There are mixed reactions. The arab governments, some of them are taking part in this because they see a direct threat to their own existence. Isis already broke out of syria, charged into iraq, and has now managed to carve out a safe
haven for itself and its continuing to expand, continuing to take territory. So countries like jordan, saudi arabia, qatar worry that if it expanded once already, it could expand into their countries. But on the street, there are a lot of people skeptical of the United States. They see once again the United States leading a coalition against a muslim country. Once again, American Drones and aircraft, b 52s, tomahawk missiles dropping bombs in villages in the muslim world. Even if they oppose isis, there are a lot of people in this part of the world who can never support that kind of u. S. Led action. Tell us about this group khorasan, which apparently is threatening to hit us in United States or in europe with some kind of bombs on airplanes which gets to a lot of us who fly a lot. Tell me about that group. I never heard of them before. Reporter well, i think the
u. S. Administration is focusing on this group because, according to intelligence officials, it is a dangerous group. It was working with other militants, other al qaeda militants to develop bombmaking techniques, targeting specifically the airline industry. But it is not the only group inside syria that wants to attack the United States. I think the u. S. Chose this group because it felt it was a more or less imminent threat and it could it could address critics who said that isis is strictly a local group and that we should walk away. Here the administration can say, heres a group that clearly wants to target something that americans use every single day. But when you start wading deeper into the swamp that syria has become over the last three years, youre going to find the noosera front, with many different factions that is as
direct Al Qaeda Group, that is probably just as dangerous as isis, if not even more dangerous, because now youre going to see a strategic rivalry. If you bomb isis and you bomb khorasan, then potentially youre strengthening nusra, which is an alternative group. So do you have to bomb them all . And i think the u. S. As it goes deeper into this is going to find it very difficult to differentiate between all of these various militant groups and then to try to postulate of what their intentions might be . Im skeptical when people say isis only wants to attack locally and this other group wants to attack planes, and this third group, they want to attack europe. Youre looking at groups from 10,000 feet with bad intelligence. I think its difficult to know what their intentions truly are. Great to have you on tonight, richard. Thanks for joining us. Up next, the hardball round table, well get perspective on the topics weve
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remain there, hes fighting the same people that were trying to fight and spending 500 million. Makes no sense to me and i cant sell it. You cant sell this stuff. Rand paul from kentucky is making all the moves as a 2016 president ial candidate. Said arming Syrian Rebels was a stepping stone to americans in combat. As isis grows stronger or theyre not quelled by sending arms to feckless allies in syria, then what happens . Then they come back again and again. Theres already the drum beat. Theres already those in both parties who insist that we must have american gis on the ground. Im not sending any american soldiers. Im not sending your son, your daughter, or mine over to the middle of that chaos. Joining me now at the hardball round table, jonathan capehart, michelle bernhard, and zeke miller of Time Magazine who wrote the article i just
read from. Zeke, lets talk about the threat at home here as part of this thing. Most americans are basically start as isolationists. Its our country, great big country, nobody wants to live anywhere else. They like it here and they wonder why were always getting dragged into european wars or asian wars. We usually know why, but we dont like it. Is the president going to have to keep putting this stuff out, coaxing this information to us through the media that we have a threat here at home and thats why we got to fight there . I think if you look back in the past two months, starting with the yazidi crisis, with the president talking in terms about the people stranded on the mountain, followed by protecting u. S. Personnel the christians . Exactly. Weve seen this slow buildup, adverti teasing to the American People, what they would support. Now you support strikes to protect this population and that population. Now its coming home. The president escalating, the white house saying that some folks who fought alongside isis and other extremist groups in syria and iraq have come back to the United States. Thats the first time they said that. And that came hours before the strikes last night. A connection . Definitely a connection here as theyre trying to keep people engaged. Jonathan, did you get any whiff of what was going to happen in the last 24 hours . No. It was secret. Yeah. Now bombers are going, fighter planes, b 52s, tomahawks and we have five allies in the field with us. Again, this is something the president has been telegraphing for the last few weeks now, that whole when congress was in town for the last couple days couple hours. And avoiding taking any kind of serious vote and saying to the president youre authorized to do whatever it is you want to do. We were surprised that the United States hit syria last night. The president even told us in the primetime address that it
will strike in iraq and if i need to, go into syria. So hes been telegraphing these things. I also think how turkey was able to get out about 15 or 20 hostages from isis, also cleared the way for some action to happen. So, yes, i was you mean they wouldnt execute them . Right. But also made us suspect turkey had cut a deal . Releasing a bunch of isis people or whatever, some kind of tradeswap, some prisoner swap . Im not sure what turkey did to get its people out, but whatever it was, i think made it possible for turkey to help in some way, but also for the United States to move forward in what it did last night. Nothing arrests our attention like the beheadings. Biggest news story in five years, according to nbcwall street journal polling. Everybody cant imagine sitting in the desert, counting your minutes until you have your head cut off. We know its only happening to
them because theyre american. Hes an american. So that was a streetcorner threat to us. Absolutely. I think that was more of an arresting kind of emotion than the fear you might be one of the americans caught in a dirty bomb. Although this new airplane bomber scares me a lot too. Because we fly a lot in this business. Nobody wants to be on a plane when somebody has the extra fluids than theyre supposed to. I think for a large part of the American Public the beheadings sort of lent a little bit more credence to what president obama has done. I wasnt surprised this came at pull. You saw it coming during the testimony last week. The threats have been bubbling up, getting worse. I thought to myself, when is he going to act . Its about time that we actual do something. If you think about 9 11, 2001, the threats never went away. Weve sort of been living in la la land we never know because they keep secret a lot of the successful interventions. Exactly. When they catch somebody, they dont announce it all over the place. But if we bomb allot, are they going to start beheading women, nuns, whoever they can get their hands on . The u. S. Government is being secretive in terms of what we believe is being held by isis arent there americans over there and you can always grab somebody, the hitchhikers . You have the thrill seekers, but this area has been in conflict. And there are fewer there than ever before. Missionaries . Missionaries and journalists, trying to sell the stories of the people who are being impacted by this terrible crisis and the violence there. Those are the folks still on the ground. A lot of them have been pulled back. Is only the sheer numbers stopping people from beheading . Wont they behead anybody they can get their hands on . Seems like they do. Seems like thats what they
do. Its a rather savage way to die. Its a very arresting image to see them clad in orange with some fellow standing next to them, knowing whats coming and with a knife to their throat. But i have the sense that the administration and the president , keep in mind, a president who campaigned on withdrawing from two wars, who won a Nobel Peace Prize with the promise of bringing peace to the world. He doesnt want to go to war. Nobody wants to go to war. But the point im trying to make here, the president said in his speech that, oh, we might have to also strike into syria. Last night the United States strikes into syria and announces that we took out the khorasans, this group no one had ever heard of theyre an Al Qaeda Group. Until last night. Theres some information that he has, that the administration has that they feel that they have to
strike and do something now before something more serious happens. Are we in a war now or not . It sounds like were not now from you. Were not on the ground. We dont have allies on the ground. Were on the ground in iraq. We have troops in iraq. Trainers. Because we have have been asked. You can call them trainers or whatever, but the bottom line is, we have boots on the ground in iraq. We probably at some point in time are going to have to have boots on the ground in syria. The demographics dont matter. The most important demographic, are you american . They dont like our way of life. They didnt go away after 9 11. The war is not over until the enemy says its over. They keep coming back. Theyre not going away. Theres 300 million arabs and a billion islamic people, when you say they when i talk about isis, al qaeda, when we talk about islamic extremists who hate the way of life that americans and the people in the west lead, we
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some guy able to just leap over this fence, ends up in the north portico. Theyre thinking, hey, they can make that run. Theyve got to be thinking. They didnt have too much difficulty flying into the world trade center, it cant be too difficult to get into the white house. This is really a National Embarrassment for the country and the c. I. A. I dont understand how that happens. What would have happened if he had been successful and the president or any member of his family would have been in the white house . Or if he had been wearing a bomb . Frankly, i dont understand how this happens here, in washington, d. C. At the white house. He just takes charge. Everybody is cheering him in the theater. I dont mind people talking in those theaters. But it was really starring about how they came in. Right. But leave aside the isis threat. Just the idea that the most protected house in the country,
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