On monday, mrs. Jane sanders joining us here in the studio to talk about the New York Primary. Hardball with Chris Matthews is next. Battle on broadway. Lets play hardball. Good evening, im Chris Matthews in washington. After a big loss in wisconsin this week, Hillary Clinton went on offense and fired a shot across Bernie Sanders bowel. He hit back showing he can more than defend himself. The fight kept up thursday when he taped an interview for fridays today show. She denied ever saying sanders was not qualified to be president. Friday morning, sanders called a truce, after two days of slamming qualifications, he took back what he said about clinton herself being unqualified. Here is what he said on the today show. Here is the truth. Ive known Hillary Clinton for 25 years. I respect Hillary Clinton. We were colleagues in the senate. On her worst day, she will be she would be an infinitely better president than either of the republican candidates. She is qualified. Of course. Hillary didnt want to let it go. She continued the war of wards. You may have heard senator sanders say im unqualified to be president. Well, seriously. Seriously, ive been called a lot of things over the years, but unqualified has not been one of them. This morning, he finally acknowledged that of course, he doesnt really believe that. This is all pretty silly. The question in this election should be who can actually get things done. Well, shortly after that, in a gaggle with the press, clinton too backed down, answering to reporters that yes, sanders was
qualified, is qualified. Any way, tad devine, sanders campaign, two term governor of pennsylvania supporting Hillary Clinton. Governor, Hillary Clinton, she was a little snagged up there, unable to end the war. She is still firing. Bernie stopped saying she was unqualified. She said oh, yeah, he said i was. No longer unqualified. But im going to keep fighting. Then something happened and she said okay, well call the truce. Whats going on . In fairness, secretary clinton said yesterday, chris, that Bernie Sanders was infinitely better than donald trump or ted cruz. She said that yesterday, which is essentially what senator sanders said about her. Both sides should understand that all theyre doing by calling each other liars, by saying unqualified or things like that, theyre feeding the republican propaganda machine, regardless of who the nominee is. Theyre for getting why they got
in the race in the first place. They go the in the race to have a progressive Supreme Court, end income inequality. To do something about universal health care, to create jobs by rebuilding the infrastructure. Those are the things that matter. Who is the president going to be, and look, weve done so well for so long compared to the republican campaign. It was a shame what happened here. And the problem with senator sanders taking back that Hillary Clinton is qualified, saying now, that quote that she is unqualified, those 30 seconds are there. If Hillary Clinton is the nominee and i believe she will be, thats going to be used by the republicans in the fall. Tad, why did tad devine, explain why he went that far . Well, because he did that on tuesday night, after a won a sweeping victory in wisconsin, the Clinton Campaign announced publicly through jeff zeleny on cnn that they will have a new strategy, it was called disqualify Bernie Sanders to
defeat them. All of the surrogates refusing to say whether or not Bernie Sanders was qualified. They launched surrogates to tack him on guns and foreign policy. They thought they were going to come into the New York Primary and blow him out. Even though comes from a small rural state, he is able to play the New York Primary game. Thats exactly what donald trump said when he put out the picture against heidi cruz. He did it first. This is 5yearold stuff. He did it first, or she did it first is exactly the trump defense. Chris, they were going to run us over with a truck here in new york. Okay, ive been through new york primaries before. I know what its like. Im very happy to hear secretary clinton has finally said the words that Bernie Sanders is qualified to be president. Okay, because saying he is better than donald trump, listen, ive got a 28yearold daughter, she is better than donald trump for president. That wasnt good enough. She is saying, he said it. Lets talk about the issues. There are big differences on big issues. We should debate them in new york. Governor, Hillary Clinton, i have a theory here. Excuse me, my theory is pretty blunt. To really upset the hillary campaign, to really turn this election around, he began it this week by winning in wisconsin. If he knocks out hillary at home, this is serious business. Losing at home is almost unforgiveab unforgiveable. You lose at home, youve lost. Isnt that why this campaign has turned tough, because Hillary Clinton is worried about Bernie Sanders beating her in new york . Isnt that why she has gotten tough . No, i dont think so. Lets assume Bernie Sanders were to win 51 of the vote in new york. He is not going to pick up nearly enough delegates to have a real path to victory. Most observers agree, there is no path to victory for Bernie Sanders. Look, i am a super delegate, as a super delegate, i will vote for the person who has the
highest combination of popular vote and secretary clinton has 2. 4 million more popular votes than Bernie Sanders. And the most elected delegates. She has 240 more elected delegates. Thats not going to change. It may go down, but its not going to change. So the super delegates arent going to haj. Shell win the majority of elected delegates. So look, i think thats all not necessary, and we shouldnt do things that hurt us in the fall. Look, if Bernie Sanders is the nominee, he is going to need the Hillary Clinton supporters. If Hillary Clinton is the nominee, she will need the Bernie Sanders supporters. We should keep that in mind or blow an opportunity that has been handed to us by the republicans. Lets take a look after what mr. Jeff weaver, the Campaign Manager for senator sanders had to say just recently in the last few hours. Here is what he said. He is keeping at this. He said clinton has made a deal with the devil. We all know what it means. Youve sold your soul to the devil. Here is what he is saying now. Lets watch. I think if you look at her record, if you look at her campaign, you know, her campaign is funded by millions and millions of dollars from wall street and other special interests. You know, she has made a deal with the devil and we know the devil wants his money in the end. So thats the kind of campaign she is running. She has supported these terrible trade deals, which have devastated American Manufacturing in this country, supported the war in iraq, continues to have a hawkish foreign policy, expanded isis throughout the middle east. He didnt get the truce word, did he, tad . That was early, chris. That was early this morning. That means he might have well said she is no damn good. What else does he have to say . You said this isnt going to be about person. But you can say its about issues, but basically he is damning her. Well, listen. He is. How you fund your campaign is an issue. Jeff is right about that. Deal with the devil . Listen, jeff will speak for himself. He is a former marine i am a former altar boy. Thats exactly right. Jeff made the points is a valid point. How you fund your campaign. She has numerous super pacs, okay, and in the last quarter, the biggest one raised 15 million from wall street. Thats a legitimate issue. She has a super pac that is we dont did barack obama make a deal with the devil . Were not running against barack obama. Answer that question. Answer that question. Sure, ill be happy to answer that question. The system of Campaign Finance in this country is corrupt. Fortunately now, Bernie Sanders can run a campaign by relying on small dollar contributions. I dont think we could have done it, president obama could have done it in 2008. The Technology Allows you to do it. If he was running today, he would probably not take a dime for super pacs, he would run outside the system, just like
Bernie Sanders. Well, chris, first of all, i object to someone who is running for office 17 times, 15 2 record, that would get me about 22 million a year. Someone who has run for office 17 times, i have taken money from businesses and interests, and then made decisions directly adverse to their welfare, because i cared about the welfare of the people of pennsylvania or the people of philadelphia. Thats what Hillary Clinton did. Hillary clinton was a strong supporter of dodd frank, may not have been everything we wanted it to be, but wall street wanted to defeat dodd frank. He had taken money as say a senator, and yet she went ahead and did what was right to support dodd frank and get passed. You can take contributions. You dont make deals with the devil. You say to people, you give me money, ill listen to you. I will not necessarily do what you want. I did that in 36 years as a public official. Hillary clinton has done that. Barack obama has done that. And as to the trade deals, i assume that joe biden and secretary kerry also made a deal with the devil on trade, because they supported those same trade deals. Well, tad, are they all guilty with deals with the devil . Everybody supports the trade pack with the far east. You dont by the way take money from super pacs, but you allow them to help you. Youre talking to the greatest mayor in the history of philadelphia. What are you making from the point here . That he wasnt listen first your guy is using a broad brush against every politician around and you saying technology has changed. Where did you come up with that one . Thats pretty good. Chris, first of all, let me say what a great mayor and great governor and great party leader ed rendell was okay. Let me put that on the table. In 2016, we have a corrupt
system of Campaign Finance that became rotten in 2010 when the United StatesSupreme Court took all the boundaries off fundraising and allowed corporations to pour as much money as they want into super pacs. The system is rotten right now. It really is. Its dichb fr its different from the system we had in the past. Bernie sanders wants to end it. But by taking action. He has shown us a new way forward. Listen, i hope the dooep paremo party adopts what bernie is doing. Not by taking special interest money, but by relying on millions of people and funding this campaign. Thats what bernie is doing, and im very proud of that. Tad, i mean, i really do, we talk about Citizens United here. Thats the devil as far as im concerned. Governor, your last word here. I agree. Citizens united, it was a disgraceful decision and caused a lot of the problems. But Hillary Clinton has pledged to get rid of Citizens United, just as Bernie Sanders would. If the democrats dont win the election, were going to have more problems it seems to me. Thats a reasonable judgment. Any way, thanks so much, tad devine, great debate. I love the Technology Thing of yours. Really brilliant. I love the latest in the stateoftheart game of political argument. Thank you, governor. Everything we both said is true, about you. Coming up, the high takes, do or die in no. Bernie has the momentum. He is looking for a win. It could be break out time forp sanders if he gets it. What is john kasich up to . He is on the attack against cruz now. Making a play for perhaps number two and on a possible republican ticket with mr. Trump. I think thats what hell have to call him, mr. Trump. The hardball round table is here about something we dont know about the fight with bernie and hillary. Its crossed the bridges into
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anything but a finish line and its kind of turned into a fire wall . You know, matt, i said from the very beginning, this is going to be a tough contest all the way through. And i did it because i remember 08, you know. I went the distance with then senator obama. And thats the way primary develop. Welcome back to hardball. Hillary clinton said shell distance in the democratic primary. It has gotten tough in new york, where both claim home turf. The latest National Average by the way shows Hillary Clinton with just a four point lead now. Just four points across the country, after all the delegates she has won. That will change if she gets a loss in new york. I really think so. If clinton manages to lose the state she represented for eight years in the u. S. Senate it will shift significantly. I believe. Were going to check it with our experts. Hi hi heidi, ill let you start off first. The one question, the wednesday morning after the New York Primary. Bernie has squeaked it. The national media, all in new york, goes nuts. She has been beaten at home and by then, the National Numbers will close to nothing. Im talking about the stakes. The National Numbers. Everything. Well, its a huge psychological shift, right. He has beat her in wisconsin, michigan, new york. Huge psychological shift. The delegate math doesnt change all that much, but you know what does change, bernie can then go to the super delegates and say look, especially in the states i carried, you need to come over and support me now. So that then leads to a mathematical, an actual mathematical shift that he can carry into a state like you mentioned, california, although, chris, i did look at the biggest delegate states that follow, like pennsylvania. We get there. New jersey, she is actually ahead way more than she is in new york. He could pick up connecticut. By the way, the national number, if that comes equal after new york, i look at this as a big, big win for him, and a big loss for her. And i think about the other way, its not as significant if she beats him. It is certainly significant if he wins. Well, here is the thing. She always starts out way ahead in these states. Until you get to the states, and its primary time. The problem that she has is that Bernie Sanders appears, and in fact, has all the momentum. He has won acceseven out of the he has the kids, the energy, the crowd, source, money as tad devine was saying. They do have what is the crowd source. The small donations. Small donations, amplified by the internet and social media. Thats where bernie is strong. Its not just he is pulling out 400,000 a
day or something. Its not just that he has young voters. He has the young technology. He has the way to amplify the power of small donations. Thats a new paradigm in not only campaigning. If he wins new york, everybody hasnt maxed up, now is your chance to double down. As you were saying, new york is the Media Capital not only of the United States, but in many ways the world. You cant overstate the megaphone effect of new york. So its a local contest in a global place. If hillary loses there, and by wait, im not sure she will. She still has most of the Jewish Voters in new york. She is going to have the loyalty of most, especially the older africanamericans, a lot of hispanic support, but between that style of Interest Group by Interest Group politics. New york. And, though, the general waive politics of sanders. The thing is that brooklyn is not the brooklyn that we knew, chris. Thats the question we
skipped over. Its also a closed primary, right. So how has bernie ridden to success in a lot of these states, it has been on the independent voters. The other alternative, it is just a squeaker, very close. Even in that case, it will be a psychological blow going into a general election. Shell be seen, perceived as a weaker candidate if she had carried the state by a much bigger margin. Youre great. Talk about the new brooklyn. Its not the old jewish and catholic, not the old clubs. Do you want the bagel. Its not food by food. Its not the old ethnic groups. Its now hipsters, younger people, knowledge workers, young people, 35 and under, who for whom College Education has in some cases been a boon, but not entirely. Bernie talking about free College Education, the knowledge workers rights, health care, et cetera, et cetera, is powerful. Lets talk about the other
side, you start heidi. If bernie doesnt make it, we call them first names in the democratic party. It doesnt seem to bother anybody. Bernie against hillary. Suppose he loses new york. I think it shatters him. I dont know how you lose new york, you go into pennsylvania, maryland and the rest of him its going to be hard to say im going to beat her. Thats why her campaign rightfully says this is a must win. Because his campaign too. Because then you lose the critical component i was talking about at the top, making any kind of case to the super delegates. Thats why you see bernies people folksing on them now. Unless they have epic sweeps, he cant just win new york, he has to sweep it. I think the headlines its the math, chris. Saturday night live, the newspapers, the next day on all the major networks, bernie, bernie, bernie. Yeah, here is the thing. He wins if you and chuck todd and company dont call it by
11 00, okay. Bernie wins. How . Explain. Because that means its a virtual tie and it means he will have fought a two term incumbent senator from new york to a standstill. But youve got to beat the champ, do you remember that rule. Yeah, i do. Reminding people of clintons vulnerabilities, she said on morning joe j morning joe, here is the senator. How often have i talked about Hillary Clintons emails . Have you heard me . Not a word. How often have i talked about the clinton foundations fundraising. Have you heard me say one word about it during the campaign. To say i am running a vvitrioli campaign why arent you . That was bernie channelling richard nixon. He would say well, i could discuss that, it would be wrong. Some people say the supreme
court is loaded with communists. Isnt that what trump everyone, he hit all the bad problems about Hillary Clinton and said but i wouldnt when i have talked about that . The first time he did it in the debate, im sick about hearing about your emails. When i have, just a second ago. Everybody applauded him the first time he did it, but if you continue doing it, there is an obvious different reason. Irritated, why did you say that im unqualified. Take it back. Both of them have said in the last 24 hours the same thing you say. When youre not really confident of your message to the people. Theyre both saying the other guy im running against, or woman in this case, she is still better than cruz or trump. And is that all they can say, because they both said that about each other, you know. Is that the best you could do . Tad devine said, if all you could say theyre better than trump or cruz, youre really not making a case. Well, it shows under the surface, there is actually a lot of irritation, not just by hillary, but by bernie. It goes back to his shouting remark when she screamed sexism and its been building ever since then. The question is, how much time are they going to have for him to decide that he is not gsh he is going to say nicer things about her and things that are so nice that youre not only go to have the minorities and women, but also the young people who are actually really youre on the spot. Youre the first woman on the show. Youre number three or four, okay. So tonight, you have to was there some sexism in Bernie Sanders attack on lack of qualifications . No one would say that about the former secretary of state if they were male, if they were been the United States senator, because those are qualifications. Okay, ready to get flamed on twitter here, but i dont think so. I think he was just generally ticked off that she wouldnt answer the question, whether he was qualified, and he said oh, youre going to do that im going to call you unqualified. I dont know if would have been any different if it from a male. I think it was more
schoolyard brooklyn. Some people are interpreting it that way. Bernie, i think many months ago on the show, somebody asked me about it, Bernie Sanders is not a nice guy, and Bernie Sanders is he is crabby. I like the way you did that. Anybody say about a male, secretary of state, that theyre unqualified, by definition, that job makes you qualified. If his opponent went around saying that, i might. I like your courage. Thank you Howard Fineman and heidi. If you want to get ahold of her, usa today. I love courage. Sometimes its great. Bernie hillary fight. More with the round table. Up next, john kasich going up to ted cruz ahead of the primary. Could a second place finish propel kasich to a strong number two ahead of the contested convention, could he position himself with a lot of delegates to demand the vp job if he wants it or be asked for it by trump. I notice trump doesnt hit kasich. I fight that fascinating. This is hardball. The place for politics. It comes when your Insurance Company says theyll only pay three quarters of what it takes to replace it. What are you supposed to do . Drive three quarters of a car . Now if you had Liberty Mutual new car replacement, youd get your whole car back. I guess they dont want you driving around on three wheels. Smart. With Liberty Mutual new car replacement, well replace the full value of your car. See Car Insurance in a whole new light. Liberty mutual insurance. I use whats already inside me to reach my goals. So i liked when my doctor told me i may reach my blood sugar and a1c goals by activating whats within me. With onceweekly trulicity. Trulicity is not insulin. It helps activate my body to do what its supposed to do release its own insulin. Trulicity responds when my blood sugar rises. I take it once a week, and it works 24 7. It comes in an easytouse pen and i may even lose a little weight. Trulicity is a onceweekly injectable prescription medicine to improve blood sugar in adults with type 2 diabetes. It should be used along with diet and exercise. Trulicity is not recommended as the first medicine to treat diabetes and should not be used by people with severe stomach or intestinal problems, or people with type i diabetes or diabetic ketoacidosis. Trulicity is not insulin and has not been studied with longacting insulin. Do not take trulicity if you or anyone in your family has had medullary Thyroid Cancer or multiple endocrine neoplasia syndrome type 2 or if you are allergic to trulicity or its ingredients. Stop using trulicity and call your doctor right away if you have symptoms of an allergic reaction, such as itching, rash, or difficulty breathing; if you have signs of pancreatitis such as severe stomach pain that will not go away and may move to your back, with or without vomiting; or if you have symptoms of Thyroid Cancer, which may include a lump or swelling in your neck, hoarseness, trouble swallowing, or shortness of breath. Medicines like trulicity may cause stomach problems, which could be severe. Tell your doctor about all your medical conditions and any medicines you take. Taking trulicity with a sulfonylurea or insulin may increase your risk for low blood sugar. Common side effects include nausea, diarrhea, vomiting, decreased appetite, and indigestion. Some side effects can lead to dehydration, which may cause kidney failure. With trulicity, i click to activate whats within me. If you want help improving your a1c and blood sur numbers with a noninsulinption, ask your doctor about onceweekly trulicity. And click to activate your within. I thought my bladder leakage meant my social life was over. It scared me and caused a lot of disappointment and how i feel about myself. Wearing depend underwear has helped me feel more connected to the people around me. I know that im protected, im not thinking about bladder leakage and im meeting people. I feel really gratul just to be absutely free. Unlike the bargain brand, new depend fitflex underwear is now more flexible to move with you. Reconnect with the life youve been missing. Get a free sample at depend. Com. Im milissa rehberger. Here is what is happening. The suspect arrested earlier in belgium. 31yearold hoemd abrini, known as the man in white, seen in airport surveillance video, also suspected in the paris attacks last year. Spacex successfully launched a capsule bound for the space station, carrying supplies and experiments. They landed on a floating barge, they erupted in cheers at the headquarters in california. Back to hardball. My goal is to win as many delegates as i can heading into the convention. And its important for me to continue to raise money, to
build political team. And im ive been playing from behind the whole time. The reason why ive been playing from behind for the whole time is because i didnt in the beginning, and im not now, going to take the low road to the highest office in the land. That was Governor John Kasich on the campaign trail this week, after scoring zero tell gaidelee is continuing to fight hoping for a better reception in new york and connecticut. His campaign is out with a pair of new ads, exclusively wbr id wbr18924 taking aim at ted cruz. Here is one. In iowa, ted cruz sneared at our new york values. I think most people know what new york values are. Theyre not iowa or New Hampshire values. Everyone knows what new york values. Ted cruz divides to get a vote. John kasich unites to get things done. Another ad, the campaign cast doubt on cruzs ability to get enough delegates for the nomination, asserts kasich has a b
better chance of taking down wbrid wbr19224 Hillary Clinton in november. You have only one choice. One choice that will stop the clinton political machine. John kasich. Dont be fooled. Ted cruz cant win the nomination outright. He cant defeat Hillary Clinton, either. Well, kasich is the one counted that donald trump hasnt lashed out much at least. What is the ohio governors game plan. Is he looking to land on the ticket with trump. Who knows. Im thinking, though. Joining me at the round table, john stanton, left of me, buzzfeed news, sabrina, this thought i have. Its interesting, because first of all, snaring is a great word. A great word for cruz. He is getting personal and exploiting out of a stupid line like new york values means he is
going for number two, which pushing the socalled cruz out of the game. If youre john kasich, you dont believe the establishment actually intends to rally behind tech in the longterm. Theyre doing it now to deprive donald trump. Thats when he believes he is the one theyre going to turn to. He has the polling sthto show i the only one that can beat Hillary Clinton. Its consistent, by the way. Quoteunquote stole the nomination. He ran the campaign and whether it wab jeb bush or marco rubio. Where do you see so little contention between trump, the frontrunner, the usual target and the guy who is tagging last, lagging last . They dont trash each other. No, they dont. Because donald trump only attacks two people. The super, super weak and a threat. And i bet you, any day now, donald trump will turn his sights on john kasich if looks like he is unless he wants him on the
ticket. Chris, i dont believe why . What is the one state of republican candidate must win historically, has to bin, ohio. Its ohio. But that requires john kasich to have a soul conversion to go on the ticket of a man he the road is very busy these days. Chris christie is a prime example. John john kasich is as much as an tune nist. John kasich has a make a play and not be the third little weakling, it is here in new york. That ad, talking about new york values, thats his shot thats his shot. For number two. Yes, for number two. What is he up to, john . I think what jonathan said is right. To me, the whole question is i dont understand why he thinks theyre going to turn to him eventually. The person that the establishment theyre going to turn to will have to have enough of the antiestablishment voters to come along. John kasich is nothing but an establishment figure. He has been in washington figure, governor like he is super establishment. The idea right. The notion that hell be able to pick up any of the trump or cruz voters. I always like to watch peter king. Here he is. Ready. Kasich isnt the only person, here is republican congressman from new york, peter king, taking a shot at the texas senator. Any new yorker even thinks of voting for ted cruz, needs to have their head examined. Ted cruz wearing cowboy boots criticizing us. Listen, i hopes he gets the cold shoulder, send him back where he belongs. That sounds like ed koch, the mayor of new york, any jewish person votes for jesse jackson, they have a hole in their head. That sounds so new york. Peter king hates ted cruz. He was one of the most vocal critics during the government
shut down in 2013. This serves as a reminder to really under state where the Republican Party is when ted cruz why does he hate ted cruz. Because ted cruz still represents the person who was willing to torpedo his own party to pursue his own agendas, its hard to he also torpedoed go ahead. What did he torpedo. To block Hurricane Sandy funding. Oh, he has made this line about new york values, throughout his career, once he got into the senate, and really sort of used that a lot against people. What does he mean when he talks to the country folk . What is he saying. Basically city people. Its actually elitist. What does it mean . Also urban pro gun control, supportive of same sex marriage. Yeah. Not religious. Blah, blah, blah. You dont listen to country
music in your pickup truck. That line as an exile of new yorker here in washington, that line about cowboy boots is a real sting. You see that, you do this. You think come on. Good night, cowboy. I dont know it goes that far, chris. But cowboy, really, in the midst dill new york city. Come on, man. They dont like that . No, we dont. Why not . We dont have enough time for that. You gave me these looks. I cant interpret them. Thats country values, right. Like people in new york look at people like oh, youre so were going to come back here in a minute. I want to try to figure out this guys facial expressions. Any way, the round table sticking with us, its the democratic battle for broadway ahead of the crucial New York Primary. It will all happen. This is the blow out. But i cant think of anything as good as this fight for new york. This is great stuff. It will reverbrate around the world. Youre watching hardball, the place for politics. There are two billion people
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two, Hillary Clinton has she cant lose new york. She absolutely cannot lose new york. She is still ahead in the polls. Again, the longer Bernie Sanders is on the ground, the better he does. His economic message will play well downstate. It probably will play extremely well upstate, which isnt as explain. Because downstate means the five boroughs of new york city, westchester and long island, everything else, when you look a map of the state of new york, downstate is blue, upstate is red, with pockets of blue in places. So Bernie Sanders can get around the state and get his message out. He has 11 more days to do that. He could do very well in the state. But here is the problem, and it started on monday, when the daily news Editorial Board came out. It was a disaster for Bernie Sanders. What did you think of the politics of that decision, the way they handled it . What do you mean . What do you think of the
decision . Which decision . Like these kind of things, you think this is the way things happen. Things are made to happen. What do you think where is zuckerman on this race. I dont know. I dont work there any more, chris. I would like to know where he stands. The interview happened on aprili april 1st. It came out on april 4th. He needs to have the new york Media Capital. Im trying to del lyynnate t. Are they regular democrats, or, you know, new coming progressive democrats like bernie. I would say theyre with hillary. I figured out these tabs. You worked there. I worked there. I can tell you the choice between Bernie Sanders and Hillary Clinton, its clear. Its Hillary Clinton. But Bernie Sanders didnt do himself any favors by not being
able to handle the interview. Going into the process like this sort of run up to the vote where he could have set his own agenda. Could you read that thing . I read it a number of times. One side, the Editorial Board is talking about the fed, the guys on the ed board should have said name the provision you will use to take apart the big banks. Just end this conversation. Why didnt they do that to him . He doesnt have a realistic plan to actually do what he why didnt they just say what provision. The onus is not on them to get the question right. The onus is on him to answer, as john set, set the agenda. Youve been running on this Bernie Sanders for a year and a half, two years. This is your campaign, and you cannot put the New York Daily News editorial page by telling them i think its always a bad day for bernie. It was a bad week. He didnt do himself any favors that Hillary Clinton isnt qualified to be president. Which he so clearly reversed his opinion on today, recognizing i think the backlash that he received, where he has out right said she is qualified. A pretty broad definition, in other words, i disagree with her on the issues. If you voted for the iraq war, it makes you somebody i disagree with. Somebody he disagrees with, and he opened himself up that was sexist, charges that he is feeding into republican talking points. Thats their central argument against Hillary Clinton, she is unqualified. Theyre saying things like b benghazi. Does he know that . Im sorry. Does he know theyll use it in the fall. I think he was genuinely irked because he believes it was a concerted effort to try to get rid of him, put him away. He of course is tying that to
clinton and her allies, whether do you think the end justifies the means . When you have strong philosophy that says this may be a little tough, unfair in the short run, but ive got a cause here, ive got to lead. Yeah, thats what the basic definition is they believe it. His politics, 101, the same primary, not to explicitly Say Something that you wont be able to really walk back. He is going to have to come back and endorse Hillary Clinton and he essentially said by saying she was not qualified, theyre unfit to be president. I want to hear from bernie lately, this strikes me. Im used to politics. I think he really is, dont want to use the word negatively, but he is an ideological. The health care for life, he sees it as a shame. Not something we can get to, were working toward. No, he says its a moral shame that we dont have health care. Its a right. I believe it when he says it. Thats not campaigning. No. Thats deep belief. Maybe thats something that social democrats around the world and all the other democrats believe it is a right. It is a red right we call it. It is not freedom from the government. You demand from society. Were dealing with somebody who has true believes here. You will find no one that says Bernie Sanders does not believe 100 in what he is saying. No one will say that. The argument is how then do you get to this universal health care. How then do you break up the banks and beating Hillary Clinton. But here is the problem. The problem he had with the New York Daily News editor ral board, wall street is in new york. Wall street is a big part of the tax base. Wall street is a big part of the job base. If youre going to break up the banks, they want to know what happens to these people. He had no answer. Do they still do advertising
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