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Well be back here tomorrow in oregon and kentucky, until then, for the entire team here at eyewitness si. Coming up hardball with Chris Matthews. Trump versus the times. Lets play hardball. Good evening. Im Chris Matthews in new york. Donald trump pushed back hard yesterday that looked at his treatment of women and called the story a lame hit piece and a joke. He also said it was malicious and according to the times piece, interviews with dozens of women that knew him quote reveal romantic advances, unending commentary on the peal form and an unsettling workplace conduct. A few of the times examples female trump executives said he told her you look like you like your candy. One said trump was dismissive towards here, hun and a miss usa contestant said he kissed me directly on the lips and i thought oh my gosh, gross. A former trump girlfriend said he asked her to change into a bikini during a pool party and told the crowd at the pool that is a stunning trump girl, isnt it . The trump times characterize it as a facetoface encounter. Lane herself today dispute that characterization. I was not happy with the way that the article was written and i was promised that it wouldnt be done that way and it absolutely was. I dont think its fair to me and i dont really think its fair to him. It seems to me like they have an agenda and they are following it. I never said he paraded me anywhere and that word keeps coming up. He said now thats a stunning trump girl. I was very flattered and indeed flattered and i made that clear to the writer i was flattered. Trump says he will go on offense against Hillary Clinton and says quote just getting nasty with Hillary Clinton wont work. You got to get women to ask if hillary is true and authentic. He plans to challenge oher on benghazi and husbands infidelities. Trump plans to throw clintons husbands infidelities in his face questioning whether she enabled his behavior. Joining me is a political reporter for the New York Times and msnbc contributor and john no, im sorry, no youre not. Shes with Time Magazine and john is a former senior strategists for the santorum president ial campaign. Let me go to jeremy. I know you have to speak for your newspaper, but how would you report on this back and forth he found a women not happy with the way the story was presented and said she was not by her terms exploited or abused or humiliated she says. The author of the piece should she wouldnt be portrayed that way. Shes not happy about and it i can understand if shes right she would be. Trump also pointed out there were some 50 women interviewed only four or five quoted in the piece which he suggested other women had good things to say about him. Can you comment on that . Ill let this story speak for itself. What i will say both sides of it . Trump did tweet something inaccurate the women interviewed for the story. He did. The reporter did a fine job reporting this piece pointed out that he did interview the women that the Trump Campaign told them to talk to and so that part of what trump pushed back on was not accurate. The beauty of the piece is it is very inappropriate. What about the portrayal of the woman that pushed back, ms. Lane . She said they got it all wrong and said they wouldnt write it that way. You know she was not paraded around. They kept saying paraded. I wasnt paraded around. Your thoughts . I didnt report the piece so i probably shouldnt no, but youre doing a good job here. Let me go to jay newton small. The way the story hits you, the story, the fact you can discern as being true, how does it hit you and what does it say about the president ial candidate himself . Donald trump has a lot of roads to make with women. Calling Rosie Odonnell a fat pig or saying megyn kelly has been bleeding or calling Carly Fiorina ugly, these stories dont help him do they hurt . Are they worse if youve gotten through the thick of Public Information about it, what he said about Rosie Odonnell and said about megyn kelly the journalist, what he said about his opponent at one time, carly this is in our face already. People have they adjusted to that part of him and made their own discernment and why would this be worse . I dont think hes winning women over. These stories, he needs to be out there winning women over because hes not going to win a general election without doing better with women and hes losing women enormously. He has to do better and his challenge is to show how he would govern and better represent women and better represent them than Hillary Clinton would. Stories like this do not help at all. There are positive aspects and im sure well see his daughter come out and talk about how hes a good businessman and how hes empowered women and there are aspects where he was one of the few to hire and promote women in the 80s and 90s but thats lost in what becomes the worst aspects of this character to sexualize every woman whether hes working with or dating. On, weve been through this before, we all were in it with clinton. You and i personally. I mean just broader and kathleen willy and paula jones and accusations they made in his defense or whatever it worth. Its not that its similar. Everything is different but each case is its own self and it involves humiliation of women and some its things like saying i got to put it in perspective, you call someone hun or dear 30 years ago, i doesnt know if that was courtesy, niceness or charm. It could have been dismissiveness. Clearly had that impact and even if its 20 years ago. Well, first of all, one thing that worked in did thes favor is it was the New York Times. For republicans to be unified, he needs to be attacked by ob a obama, clinton and the New York Times. Number two, as you said, a lot of this is really people know these things about donald trump and again, im not an analyst. Im a strategists and if im a strategist for the trump campaign one thing i do realize, the more ugly i can make the race between both parties, the more it is for my benefit because people are saying im sick of all that type of politics. Im going with the agent of change and the agent of change in this particular race is donald trump. Do you think thats true . I wrote a close for the show along those lines but my sort of bottom line will be at the end of the night because im already there which is this just turns people off to politics. They say im not running for anything if this is what illm o going to be hit with throwing past personal behavior against each other, people have to be perfect in their life or enjoy this. Trump seems to be able to enjoy this stuff thrown back and forth. He does. Its what animates him. Its what sustains him every single day getting in these fights on twitter, hurling insults at opponents and journalists that cross him who he believes somehow wronged him but i do think that youre right, chris. People are voting in the polls are showing this, that they are selecting a president ial candidate for the first time based on a negative voting against someone. You talked to hillary supporters and voting for her because they want to vote against trump and the same is true for trump. They are picking him because they want to vote against hillary. Thats a striking and Unsettling Development in our politics. Ann in the Washington Post used all kinds of information and a new focus group that puts it into the likability issue on her side again it is the thing that republicans unite about. They dont like hillary and want to beat her or whatever the instinct and here we have people, have all this stuff used against trump now. There is no good news for anybody right now it seems. Its all relatively bad news depending how bad it is on either of them. Striking this is like a nonideal Logical Campaign and issues and not a campaign about substance and policy but who you like more and who you would wrath v rather have a beer with more who you would like to throw a beer at . I dont know if its like or dislike more and scream at the tv more and so it reallily is about character. If you spend six months against character attack. This puts donald trump in the madman category in terms of behavior. Anyway, president obama made a strong case against donald trump yesterday during a commencement address at rutgers although never actually mentioned trumps name. But you know who hes talking about. Lets watch. The world is more enter connected thavr ever befo connected than ever before. Building walls wont change that. Isolating or disparaging muslims or suggestioning they should be treated differently would alienate the communities at home and abroad who are the most important partners in the fight against violent extremism. If you were listening to todays political debate, you might wond wonder where this strain of anti intellectual came from. Its not cool to not know what youre talking ability. Thats not challenging political correct n correctness. Thats not knowing what youre talking about. Pretend for a second you can i think your ill mag nation will carry this, youre working for president obama now. How far can he go to rattle the cage of trump before trump pulls him into the cage . Not very far is my guess. If we dont hear by tonight, i would be shocked. Its smarter for obama than Hillary Clinton to do it, if for no other reason obama is better. Can he stay coy or distant when trump reaches out and says i know what youre talking about and gives him it back again with that stuff. No, i think ultimately it may be a gift for trump. First of all, it takes all the other issues off the table by this if trump fights with obama, things like middle income, blue color workers in ohio, if its trump versus obama, they will side with trump on these issues and so i think although its fun to watch and obama can be creative, i think ultimately politically helps trump more than Hillary Clinton. We shall see. Thank you. And john, coming up, Bernie Sanders continues to duke it out with Hillary Clinton despite impossible odds and senior aids say they could make things messy at the convention come philadelphia this summer. What is it Bernie Sanders wants no matter who gets the nomination . Who do his supporters want the nominee to do whatever it is . Plus, after the assassination of president kennedy, Lyndon Johnson tack the reigns of power to change the course of american history. I urge every american to join in this effort to bring justice and hope to all our people. And to bring peace to our land. Later in the show, quite magically, Bryan Cranston become that guy, Lyndon Johnson. Anthony playing Martin Luther king and j roach once genitals the story of Lyndon Johnsons heroic role of bringing us to the role of 1964 tonight on the show and inside trumps bras strategy to go after bill and Hillary Clinton during debates this fall, during the debates hell do it live on National Television all or nothing move that will work for him or it wont. Finally, let me finish with the election that looks to be a real life bonfire in the vanities. Thats what it is is looking like and this is hardball a place for politics. So what the Supreme Court said is well send it back at the lower courts but strongly endorsed a compromise that said even having to say they dont want to provide contraceptive care for employees would violate the religious freedom. They said this possible compromise would be this, the group simply buy insurance and dont include contraceptive and Insurance Company takes it from there and provides no cost. Thats why both sides are saying there is something in it for them but the other part of this is that supporters are saying the pact the Supreme Court wouldnt get to the main question of the case sent them to the lower court shows the court cant be fully functional with eight justices. Makes sense. You need five to beat four. Thank you Pete Williams at the Supreme Court. Hardball returns after this. Real is touching a ray. Amazing is moving like one. Real is making new friends. Amazing is getting this close. Real is an animal rescue. Amazing is over twentyseven thousand of them. There is only one place where real and amazing live. Seaworld. Real. Amazing they made a mistake. The check they sent isnt enough to replace your totaled new car. The guy says they didnt make the mistake. You made the mistake. I beg your pardon . He says, you should have chosen fullcar replacement. Excuse me . Let me be frank, he says you picked the wrong insurance plan. no. 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The republican contest all but wrapped up of course but democrats are fighting until the end in philadelphia this summer. Joining me is jeff weaver. Jeff, im trying to figure out lets try a peace treaty between you and me for a second. Always, of course. Lets forget, put aside who will be the nominee. Let talk principle. Bernie is not running out of ego, how hard if you fight win or lose, what will you try to get done in philadelphia to come out with different principles enshrined, what would they be . I certainly think the platform will be important, chris. If you look at the issues Bernie Sanders has talked about on the campaign trail unlike donald trump who takes, spends his time hurling insults, Bernie Sanders gives long speeches about raising the minimum wage to 15 and universal health care through a single parent system and dealing with a corrupt finance system and making sure wealth and income stops going to the people at the very top. Creating a new trade policy that benefits working class people and not just people on wall street. These are types of issues Bernie Sanders has been fighting for the whole campaign. When you come out of the convention and youll be there and senator sanders, when you come out, will we have something that looks like a commitment as health care as a right . We certainly would hope so and beyond the issues in the platform, there are a number of electoral issues that i think will have to be addressed at the convention. I think we have to deal with things like closed primaries, superdelegates, sameday registration and a host of other issues that are keeping people from participating in the democratic process. Getting rid of bringing in sameday regulistration, what about state conventions and state caucuses rather than primaries. Arent primaries the most democratic way to do something if you get into Electoral Reform . We need to look at that. One of the issues weve seen in experience from this Campaign Cycle you win them well, we do often win them, but many cases the state parties dont have the resources to run them effectively why cant these states have primaries . I dont understand how cheap they are. A primary seems basic as part of the political system. I think caucus reform is an issue well certainly have to put on the table. For instance, in some states you dont know how many people voted or who they voted for, right . Let me ask you about the tough turkey one. Your best one. Besides the good issue, one we believe in, everybody on the Progressive Side over where the progressives come and everybody likes the idea of helping kids with tuition. They need help with the bills they have to pay, loans are outrageous, suspects six figures, what do we do about the deal like Hillary Clinton giving speeches for a couple hundred thousand dollars a pop . How do you stop somebody out of office from doing that . She wasnt in office she was between office but out of public office. How do you stop somebody from doing that . Well, i dont know you stop them from doing that but there is a political price to be paid and if we increase the base of the Democratic Party so it includes more young people and working class people and people Bernie Sanders is bringing into the process, i think people wont do those speeches because they know the political price will be too high. What happens if trump hits that issue this summer and fall and nails hillary on that . Would you agree or get quiet because you were the guys that raised the issue. He didnt raise it, you did. Certainly an issue raised. These speeches, i think this whole issue would have gone away if the content of the speeches, the problem was chris, the speeches were given for large amounts of money and the substance of the speeches was with held. You know you know okay. This is where we get it. You know she wasnt going to release transcripts. I dont think thats true. I think i mean, i havent of usually havent seen what is in the speeches, frankly, but given how much discussion there has been, it would seem to we back then if they were released, it would be much less discussion. Have fun like we always do. You cant imagine her walking into Goldman Sachs saying when i get elected im going to kick your butt. You know she didnt say that. Bernie sanders would have said that. He wouldnt have gotten 200,000. He didnt. You never miss a chance. Anyway, thank you. By the way, thank you. Heidi joins us now. She put out today in her story, Hillary Clinton is considering a running made that could make supporters of Bernie Sanders according to four people close to the campaign. Chief requirements for Hillary Clinton including the resume and a fighter capable of hand to hand combat with trump and prioritizes demographics over some key state and seeks unify the base according to the report is Elizabeth Warren, connecticut senator chris murphy and labor secretary tom perez. Heidi joins us now. I know youre a tough reporter. I agree with the need. How do you show the discernment and how do you know they are not feeding you fish, we want this ethnic group, the hispanics to be happy and the people on the left that love elizabeth warn and the people how do you know they are not feeding names out to win conknit wtiknit constituencies of sharing the name. If Hillary Clinton had hers, she would choose someone like cain and who she feels she can work with. Hillary clinton is not living in a Perfect World right now and if things look the way they do close to the convention, then the biggest challenge she has right now is this generational divide in the party like jeff weaver said, this is a base election. Who else besides Elizabeth Warren would meet that . She would be dynamite because shes taking up wall street as much as Bernie Sanders has. Anybody else fit that . There are a number of members of congress which is kind of focus more there right now because as you know, the ranks of governors have been a bit depleted in the past few seeks but the labor secretary tom perez has done a lot never been elected. Right, exactly. Then you run into the resume problem. The same thing its a hard job to run for v. P. Someone putting himself out there is javier part of the caucus and democratic he did get a job at the local office. So he had a position. But let me ask you about brown. Ive been pushing him for a long time to help Hillary Clinton. Now the name shows up on your list from the campaign tells me they are willing to sacrifice a senate seat in a very competitive year for the control of the senate to bolster the national ticket. Thats the perplexing problem, right . Brown would be perfect on many levels in terms of being a progressive fire brand. Hes there on big issues like trade and industrial rust belt. That is potentially a fatal flaw and i was up on the hill talking to sources and this is a concern and it might be a disqualifying concern at the end of the day. And so it all depends on really Elizabeth Warren to some extend because she is the clearest proxy to Bernie Sanders. Of course, there are risks with going with her in terms of having two women but chris, when i talk to clinton people, they said they think they can build a Winning Coalition and by bringing women out to vote in record numbers both older women who Hillary Clinton is already getting in those younger bernie women who they believe Elizabeth Warren could bring into the fold and i stress, this is where they are, right now. So dont play this back on me if we get to no, no, no. Tim kaine i think it would be extraordinary for her to do Something Like this so out of the box. Her husband, bill clinton picked al gore, two southern guys doubling down worked wonders. Thank you heidi, take this seriously. Coming up tomorrow night, another big night in election coverage. Join me starting at a special time tomorrow at 6 00 eastern for complete coverage which comes in early. Hillary clinton and Bernie Sanders in a tough fight for the bluegrass state and starting at 9 00 p. M. 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His historic achievement passing the act of 1964 which out lawed Racial Discrimination in restaurants, hotels and gas stations and other Public Places was a testament. He went on to win a landslide victory that november. Here is a clip of johnson negotiating with Martin Luther king played by Anthony Machi. Every year my best damn chicken fried steak you put in your mouth and every year she and her husband drive my packer from washington back down to the ranch for me. Well, she cant use any restroom on that highway because they are whites only. She got to squat on a field on the side of the road to pee like a dog. Thats not right and by god were going to fix that. Well, nothing in this country will ever change until negros can vote. Next bill will be voting rights. After president kennedys election, eisenhower had publicly declared his party had taken the negro vote for granted. I would hate to see the Democratic Party make the same mistake. If you think barrett gold water is legitimate to abraham clinton, you should vote for him. Well, im joined by the actors and also the films director jay roach. Brian, how did you get ready for the part i saw you back stage kathleen and lucky to come back and watch you up here. Its even better in the movie. Its the closeups, you look like johnson. How did you do that . Well, thank you. I share a couple facial characteristics the real lbj has, bead eyes and thin lips. Something every man wants to have. Godgiven advantages in life. It was prosthetics that took two and a half hours of makeup and did something to my hair and thinned it out and cut it back and we knew we would come in very close so we wanted to make sure that you didnt see any sign of it. You know what is amazing, if you got that george is the photographer of the New York Times and caught it, how johnson talks right into your face you can spemell what he had for lun or breakfast. How close were you to his face when you did that scene . Nobody talks like that you know lbj did. Yeah, good actor ray wise and he plays everett and i get right up into him, nose to nose, just to hound him and this oh, god. This gentlemen here is william full bright i meet in the elevator. They gave it a name called the johnson treatment whether he was manipulating or strong arming, he used his size to try to intimidate. Yeah. Let me go to anthony. Thank you for joining us. I thought the scenes weve seen so far of the majestic movie, you capture king as a bit of a politician, a real politician, not a reverend or man of history but a guy that knows how to play the game effectively with hardball. Definitely. Dr. King had many different facets to personality and i feel like one thing we never really touched upon as actors or seen is his ability to be the great politician. He knew how to work that angle when it had to be worked and i think the true testament of that was his relationship with lbj. Let me go to jay on this question of deal making. When you put the script together in the final touches as a director. Tell us how it reminded me of Steven Spielberg and lincoln and getting the 13th amendment passed. What was the johnson technique in terms of work and republicans and segregation, both of them . He wouldnt work the segregation, he had to work republicans. I have to credit robert who wrote the play and won a tony for it and did the adaptation for us and wrote the screen play. So roberts great screen play depicted a lot of these moments with lbj as well as he had in the play. I think one of the great things he would do with the republicans was say come on, youre the party of lincoln, candont be associated. You got to get on the right side of history as you see. He was great at putting people off balance at first, pranking them almost. You know, really making fun of them or somehow making a really off colored joke and then he would get to the serious stuff and flatter them and by the end they didnt know what hit them. That was part of the johnson treatment. He used different words than describing african americans. He didnt use the really bad word but used a compromised word from the south back then. How did you decide about using that language in the play . That was always based on the way real lbj spoke and he could figure out how to sort of be the guy he needed to be depending on the audience he spoke to. Lets look at a conversation between president johnson and Hubert Humphry after signing the civil rights bill. Congratulations, mr. President on your glorious achievement. The Democratic Party just lost the south of the rest of my lifetime. Maybe yours. What the [ bleep ] are you so happy about . You know, i want to get back to Anthony Machi on this. Its amazing how johnson committed suicide almost politically. A friend of mine from georgia reminds me, the strongest vote in the entire country for john f. Kennedy in 1960 was georgia. The south was the solid south for the democrats. They voted for stevenson. It was that good a vote in the south, gone. Johnson had it right starting in 64. They could never do it again. Definitely. I mean, i think that was one of the things he realized what he was going to have to give up in order to make this work but i feel like what is so great about lbj and able to do was he sacrificed everything for what he believed in. There were many i always say there were many other men out there that could have done what dr. King and lbj did but none of them stood up and did it. And i think thats the testament to the men they were. Let me ask jay about saturday night. Why saturday night for a debut . Whats the thinking there . Tell me something about television i dont know. Why would you take a major film like this and open it on a saturday night . A question. Sunday nights are pretty busy with game of throwns and silicon valley, great shows and saturdays are for some reason the nights they recount and game change on saturday nights. Its their tv movie night. Very achievements. You did them all. All fabulous. I love game change and recant. Your movies i want to see over and over again like casablanca. You drive to casablanca. That was in the early years. Great to meet you. Congratulations on another victory. The film is called all the way premieres saturday on hbo. Thank you Bryan Cranston, Anthony Mckee and great jay roach. The strategy to bring up bill clintons infidelity right in the debate stage with Hillary Clinton. Is that going to turn off women, republican women . The election or will it go the other way. Trump has been lucky so far. Youre watching hardball the place for politics. Exercise more. I know that. Try laxatives. I know. Believe me. Its like ive. Tried. Everything my chronic constipation keeps coming back. I know that. 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You go down that road, i go down this road . Is this a public threat . I wouldnt say its a threat. It is a threat. Of course, foreshadowing tactics and promising to use more of it. The New York Times reported on the strategy quote drawing unpsychological warfare used to defeat low Energy Jeb Bush in the republican primaries. The Trump Campaign is mapping out attacks on the clintons to try to increase negative poll ratings. Joining me is josh king author of an advanced mans guide to white house craft and political suicide. Thats chalk full. Also on tonights round table is nbc correspondent katy tur following the wagon since it launched and Howard Fineman who knows it all. I dont think i have to get much i dont think i have to add much to this conversation to throw the ball out, the hockey puck. Here it is here. Who will win this fight . There will be fights. Id say trump is already winning because without actually doing anything, hes laid it out there and here we are in your set talking about it. Its been talked about for 24 hours prior. Hes really leaving it up to others. How is throwing the kitchen sink, bathroom sink work for him . I dont think you see it on the debate stage, chris. Youre a student of history. You remember operation fortitude. Patton is pretending to invade. This is posturing. When he gets on the blue carpet by being a straight president ial character, hell win you believe thats his strategy . I think it could be a decemb deception. Im not sure he can do that, not sure. I think Hillary Clinton has so much policy depth that donald trump couldnt possibly hope to get by that first debate. Hes not going to have much of a choice but to undermine her as a person, undermine her character. Lets talk it out. She comes on, Hillary Clinton and says well restore this country, the Economic Force it had back in the 90s, lower deficit, no deficit. Show growth like never before and give you the same eight year span of growth back then. No recessions. Im going to do that again, the name bill clinton is thrown into play. What does trump do . Does he say youre right, hes the greatest president ever. I agree with josh the strategy would be shrewd to be president ial but weve been through this movie before and i agree with katy. Hes not going to do it. As katy says, he doesnt have the policy depth and the only way he knows to engage in politics is by attack. Thats all he knows. The New York Times called it psychological warfare, here in new york hes street tough. He walks down the street and intimidates people. Thats what he did in real estate. Thats what he did moving from queens to manhattan and politics. Katy, does he go in the nba game the Third Quarter and breaks the other guys arm . Remember him . Look at what hes done. Bill. There is nothing off limits for him and hes proven that and feels like hes been attacked by Hillary Clinton justified or not. She said sexist. She said sexist so she said it whenever she said it and hes going to use that now to continue attacking her in any way he sees fit and lands and so far for him the stuff that lands is a person. What about the New York Times piece saying they interviewed 50 women and got four or five witnesses and what about the other five or six and said they misplayed what i said. I said i didnt want it done that way. I didnt get paraded around or abused. 72 hours ago we were shocked, shocked he was impersonating a publicist in 91. I think 20 years ago, trump that was real estate maven to try and do his deals in this town and thats what you do and frankly, the worst thing hes done is belittle john mccain and mccain has forgiven him and said hell support the worst thing hes done in the campaign is the bottom of the Huffington Post story about him has to do with racist comments, sexist comments. All of that stuff is all there. But what amazes me, this guy had hundreds of millions, if not billions of dollars worth of negative free advertising run against him so far. Virtually everything has been said. That New York Times story on sunday basically said nothing. It said nothing. It was a mixed bag. Some of it was your daughter involved, your wife or certainly any of your sisters but other parts of it 20 years ago to call somebody dear, id have to know who the person was, context. I need more information whether was that abusive or not. I think there are two things interesting about the article. One of them was the complicated figure that it painted, somebody who might have said some things that were sexist, might have crossed the line in some areas but also somebody who promoted women and i think thats pa fascinating and donald trump might not be this person prior treyed. Hes a complicated guy. Number two, the stuff he said about women, nobody why go to the women and why not talk about what hes said to howard stern . There is nothing that could be considered more controversial than that. So much out there. Or what he said about hispanics and muslims and all that other stuff. About women, specifically. Thats much more controversial than this. Controversial than this. We have heard so much about other politicians thats much worse than this so far. Independe im not defending all of it but what do you people think of it . The roundtable is staying with us. With usaa is awesome. 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