Years. That was but a fraction. We are still counting them. More from the slice poll on bloomberg politics. Com. Coming up, hardball with Chris Matthews. What a day. Lets play hardball. Good evening. Im Chris Matthews in washington. We are covering a big day in politics across the country. What a day it has been. President obama joined Vice President joe biden and former president george w. Bush at the Memorial Service for the five Dallas Police officers killed by an assassin last thursday night. I would say in all seriousness it was president obamas finest hour. Lets watch a bit. I understand how americans are feeling. But dallas, im here to say we
must reject such despair. Im here to insist that we are not as divided as we seem. Theres so much good in what he said today. Also today, senator Bernie Sanders endorsed Hillary Clinton for president , ending his long quest for the office. Secretary clinton has won the democratic nominating process and i congratulate her for that. She will be the democratic nominee for president and i intend to do everything i can to make certain she will be the next president of the united states. Meanwhile, expected republican president ial nominee donald trump campaigns with frontrunning vp candidate mike pence of indiana tonight. We are awaiting trumps remarks. Governor pence will also speak. We begin with the mus that Bernie Sanders, who had called for a Political Revolution is now backing Hillary Clinton. He follows others in throwing his support behind the nomineetobe. It comes after backers of sanders and clinton put together a platform that sanders called the most progressive platform in the history of the Democratic Party. The two spoke about their shared commitments today. I have come here to make it as clear as possible as to why i am endorsing Hillary Clinton and why she must become our next president. This is one of the most important elections in our lifetimes, so im asking you to stand with us and then im asking you to keep working in the weeks, months and yes, years ahead. You will always have a seat at the table when i am in the white house. So i need your help. Please join this campaign, make it your own. We accept 27 donations, too, you know. Wow. Nina turner is the former state senator of ohio and sanders supporter, of course. Ed rendell is the former governor of pennsylvania and msnbc political analyst. Hes a clinton supporter. Stephanie shrerock is the president of emilys list, also a clinton supporter. So its two to one, senator. I want to give you a chance to start. Are you holding out or are you joining sanders in endorsing clinton tonight . Well, i know people want to talk a lot benefit doorsmeabout but this is not just about endorsements. Its about endurance. We put it into words, now its on paper via the democratic platform. Now its about implementation. I certainly plan to go all the way to the Democratic Convention and beyond to make sure that what we put in that platform is actually executed. When are you going to endorse . well, this is not about my endorsement. Im asking you. Im curious. When are you going to do it . I got you, but you know, this has to be processed. Those of us who support senator Bernie Sanders, this has not been necessarily an easy day for us. We were hoping that this day never happened because we wanted to see him become the democratic nominee. So again, the endurance, what its going to take to hold the status quo accountable is what happened in that Platform Committee fight in orlando and beyond in making sure that if the president is secretary Hillary Clinton, that we uphold all those values that were written on that piece of paper. Fair enough. Thats your right to negotiate. Let me ask, do you think secretary clinton won fair and square . Well, chris, obviously she got the most votes and senator sanders was very clear about that. Fair and square. Fair and square. Chris, she got the most votes. Senator sanders was clear about that. This is really about how we take this country to the next level and to make sure we take care of
the folks, the middle class folks, the working class folks in this country who deserve that type of leadership. Also, we cannot forget that senator sanders supporters, many of them who have reached out to me, many of them who have been on social media, they are hurting right now. Im not going to ignore the pain they are feeling today. Do you believe 78 , according to the latest polling, of sanders folks like yourself are supporting Hillary Clinton, 78 , about four out of five, do you believe that number . Well, i dont know what measures they use. Polls are snapshots in time. But i will tell you this. It is not just about the polls but it is how we get people out to go vote. So that is the most important thing. As democrats we will have to work very hard to do that. Polling came out today that shows that the millenials, 18 to 35 year olds, still have a strong distrust of the secretary. So we have to work. Do you . Those votes have to be earned. Last question. Do you . Do you have a distrust of her . Well, im not taking away from anything that the secretary
has worked so hard for. This is not about me as the individual but it really is about the movement. I want to see this Political Movement continue because it is bigger than just whos in the white house. It is going to take teamwork to make the dream work. Well have to keep pushing to make sure that that happens. We will keep listening to you. Stay on the program. I think you will be a voice right through this process. Senator sanders did not suspend his cam ppaign today. A spokesman for his campaign told nbc he plans to go to philadelphia and have his name placed in mination. Someone will give a nominating speech for him. Governor rendell, you hear a very strong voice from senator turner which obviously represents at least a portion of the sanders voters who are holding fast to the policies he ran on and hoping to get them through even if its through hillary, they want the policies through. What do you make about almost four out of five are coming around, i think thats impressive that four out of five have come around to Hillary Clinton already. I think thats a good fast turnaround. I think senator turner hit it right on the nose. The key here is to implement the things that senator sanders and senator turner and all of their supporters worked so hard to put forward before the american people. The message has got to be clear. The only chance to make Real Progress towards the implementation of those goals is with the election of Hillary Clinton, not donald trump. You cant vote for the green party candidate. Lovely person, lovely values, but shes not going to win. You have to make sure someone wins who will implement the things that senator sanders worked so hard for. In terms of him placing his name in nomination, he has every right to do that. Secretary clinton did it in 2008 at the convention in denver and then as you recall, the roll call went down to new york and when it reached new york, secretary, then senator clinton stepped up and moved to make it unanimous and none of us alphabetically behind new york could vote. We couldnt cast our votes in pennsylvania. If senator sanders does that, vermonts near the bottom and only virginia, washington and wyoming cant cast their vote at that point. He has every right to do that and should do that. His supporters are going to like casting that vote for him. I understand completely. Its not completely shared by senator turner because shes holding out for positions all the way. Hillary clinton has always struck me as a moderate, on Foreign Policy shes too hawkish for me. On some issues like trade, shes become more antitrade than she was. Maybe theres a nuanced difference but its to the left of where she was. I think thats also clear in the platform. Somebody was holding out for free trade. Somebody was holding out for tpp. The antitpp forces did not win in the platform fight. So there is a push me, pull me thing going on in the Democratic Party between center, center left and left, right . We are hearing it tonight. Its not over. Well is it over . I think that to this primary process has really allowed for a
significant discussion about where we are as a party. I think the platform over the weekend really reflects a party that is a prerogatiogressive pa just on Economic Issues but on Womens Health issues which we dont talk about nearly enough. Hillary clinton really pushed to the left on Womens Health care, repeating the hite amendment and expanding funding for planned parenthood. Talking about funding for abortion rights. Yes. Thats new. Secretary clinton made a concerted effort to reach out to sanders supporters. Lets watch that. We need an economy that works for everyone, not just those at the top, not just the millionaires and billionaires, but everybody. Both senator sanders and i believe anyone who is willing to work hard should be able to find a job that pays well enough to support a family and bernie is right, 7. 25 an hour is a starvation wage. As bernie and his supporters have argued so eloquently, we
wont get anywhere unless we overhaul our Campaign Finance system. We will do everything we can to overturn citizens united. Senator sanders and i will be working to get unaccountable money out of politics and the voices of Everyday Americans back in. Earlier today, donald trump tweeted quote, Bernie Sanders who has lost most of his leverage has totally sold out to crooked Hillary Clinton. He will endorse her today. Fans angry. In a statement, his Senior Policy Adviser wrote in part the candidate who ran against special interests is endorsing the candidate who embodies special interests. Bernies endorsement becomes exhibit a in our rigged system. The Democratic Party is disenfranchising its voters to benefit the select and privileged few. Senator turner, what do you make of that . Trumps going over there trying to poke bernie voters. According to the latest poll, i did mention trumps getting about one in ten of the bernie people. Well, certainly mr. Trump is shrewd in trying to get senator sanders voters but let me be clear. Senator sanders has said from the beginning that he would do everything in his power to defeat mr. Trump. So theres no secret, no news flash there. But politically it is smart for mr. Trump to try to get some of senator sanders voters. What do you think is the idealogical difference between secretary clinton and senator sanders . You have been through this campaign from the beginning and you have been quite serious about it. There are differences. What are the differences . Well, senator sanders made it clear not just in his words but in his deeds that we need to get big money, millionaires and billionaires, special interests, out of Campaign Finance. He mirrored that. A senator from vermont actualized that through his campaign process with 27. He affirmed from the beginning that people deserve to have a living wage, 15 an hour. He didnt capitulate on that. He didnt have to be pushed that way. When you want to talk about the fight of the tpp, i was there in
orlando with others and we fought very hard, senator sanders platform members fought very hard to get the Democratic Party to affirm what stopped you . That tpp is wrong. It was stopped by the Platform Committee members who support secretary clinton and those on the dnc. So again, as you clearly saw, there is still some tension there. Theres still more work to be done. I will say to the positive that we have gained lots of ground and all of the things that you heard the secretary talk about today would not have been talked about but for senator Bernie Sanders and his 13 million voters pushing the Democratic Party. I got a hardball question for you and the others. Whos your favorite candidate for vp for Hillary Clinton . Oh, god. I dont know. Thats her choice. You have been thinking about it. Come on. Give me somebody. Its her choice. I wish she would have selected my senator, senator sanders, but he want even vetted. Thats my choice. Okay. Governor, you have a candidate for vp . I would like to see tom vilsack or duval patrick. Either one would be a great president. Wow. Now, theres one that makes sense. Of course, hes working for bain right now. Thank you for dropping that sugar plum in his lap. Stephanie, do you have a candidate . We are so happy to have Hillary Clinton on the top of the ticket for the first time in history, a woman, we will stand by this ticket no matter who she chooses. Heres the thing about hillary. She will choose someone who can do the job, who she can work with. This isnt about politics for her. It is about doing the right thing for the country. Theres no better guy than tom vilsack. No better guy. Thank you, governor, for that. I think thats great. Nina turner, thank you so much, senator. Thank you, governor rendell and stephanie. We are just minutes away
from donald trump taking the stage in indiana with governor mike pence who looks to be the frontrunner to be his Vice President ial running mate. He will apparently announce this friday, we are hearing now. Thats coming up tonight. Pence and trump. Plus an emotional day in dallas today. President obama paid tribute to five Police Officers gunned down last week. Its the 11th time the president had to memorialize victims of mass gun violence. This time i think hes presenting a wonderful united front alongside former president george w. Bush and texas senator ted cruz was there. Constipated . Trust number one doctor recommended dulcolax use dulcolax tablets for gentle overnight relief suppositories for relief in minutes and stool softeners for comfortable relief of hard stools. Dulcolax, designed for dependable relief im not a customer, but im calling about that credit scorecard. to dog give it. Sure its free for everyone. Oh well thats nice and checking your score wont hurt your credit. Oh to dog im so proud of you. Well thank you. Get your free credit scorecard at discover. Com. Even if youre not a customer. Were waiting for donald trump to take the stage at a rally outside indiana indianapo. He will be there with indiana governor mike pence who may end up as trumps president ial
running mate. We have new key polling. According to a Monmouth University poll, Hillary Clinton has 45 , trump 41 . Look at this in iowa. Another new monmouth poll shows trump with the lead in iowa by two points with 44 , clinton 42 . Well be right back. Those of us who love dallas and call it home have had five deaths in the family. Your loss is unfair. We cannot explain it. We can stand beside you. I have been to too many of these things. Ive seen too many families go through this. But then i am reminded of what the lord tells ezekiel. I will give you a new heart, the lord says, and put a new spirit
in you. I will remove from you your heart of stone and give you a heart of flesh. Thats what we must pray for, each of us. A new heart, because with an open heart, we can learn to stand in each others shoes. Welcome back to hardball. So interesting watching that group of people there. Most were Police Officers. Some with them from the beginning, some got with him later on and some didnt get with him. That was former president george bush initially and president obama speaking at the Memorial Service honoring the five Police Officers killed in dallas last week. Also their families. Five empty seats were reserved, there they are up front for the officers who gave their lives. Whose bravery was remembered today. President obama consoled the grieving families and colleagues of the officers but also expressed a disgust attentions between Law Enforcement people and minority communities and addressed reasons for the growing violence and divisions. It was so honest. Here he is. We wonder if an Africanamerican Community that feels unfairly targeted by police and Police Departments that feel unfairly maligned for doing their jobs can ever understand each others experience. As a society, we choose to underinvest in decent schools. We allow poverty to fester so that entire neighborhoods offer no prospect for gainful employment. We refuse to fund drug treatment and Mental Health programs. We flood communities with so nanny gu many guns that it is easier for to buy a computer or even a book. We tell the police youre the social worker, youre the parent, youre the teacher, youre the drug counselor. We tell them to keep those
neighborhoods in check at all costs and do so without causing any political blowback or inconvenience. Dont make a mistake that might disturb our own peace of mind and then we feign surprise when periodically the tensions boil over. I watched the whole thing. Cornel belcher knows the business, and perry bacon, what did you think of that speech . I thought it was really important. I think the president was going in the first place and the president obama being there, too, great to see them both there at the same time. I really thought he tried its a hard needle to say im propolice but also pro black lives matter. I understand both communities. Did you get it . Do you think he made the point . I do. You could tell a lot of times you saw everybody applauding in the room. Its a hard point to make. He also made a great point. He said basically we are making advances on racial issues. We are much better than 1960s. I think hes a racial optimist. We are better than we seem. Better than we seem. Thats apparently going to be the lead coming out. Theres not a lot of leaders we have had over the last decade that could have made that speech. He threaded the needle. It was quintessential obama. He lays out a critique of both sides. Tell me how you heard it. Even going back to his race speech, he lays out this is what White America sees, this is what africanamericans see. He critiques both side. This is what he did with both sides, calling, those attack him for american exceptionalism but our answer is our exceptionalism. He falls back on american exceptionalism, we can solve it. What do you mean by in this context american exceptionalism . We are better than this. We are americans and solve problems. I guess he means the community, Africanamerican Community and police force, men and women in blue, need to, be
honest with each other. Here he is. We know those things to be true. They have been true for a long time. We know it. Police, you know it. Protesters, you know it. You know how dangerous some of the communities where these Police Officers serve are. And you pretend as if theres no context . These things we know to be true. And if we cannot even talk about these things, if we cannot talk honestly and openly, not just in the comfort of our own circles but with those who look different than us or bring a different perspective, then we will never break this dangerous cycle. I thought that was something. It was. He really was basically saying
we need to have a conversation but not with each other, but with people of different races and different feelings. I think hes been reluctant throughout his presidency to say hes always of the view that usually policy matters and us talking is not going to solve anything but today, he really basically said we need to talk to each other more and better, particularly the Rudy Giulianis need to talk to derays. That may not happen. But i think its important for him to say that. Even if its not going to happen. How do you get to the truth in the midst of this spectrum of what a militant guy may say, they are assassinating young black people. These cops go out for eight hour shifts to assassinate people. Another group may say, the White Community if theres such a thing say these guys are scared to death when they go on their beats, they are afraid to approach a car with a bad tail light because they dont know if the guy inside has a gun and bad attitude. Theyre scared of getting killed before they go home at night. A professional cop should be able to take some heat, take some fear and walk into it and
say this is the job i accepted, right, and im not going to shoot first and ask questions later, im not going to operate, what do they call it, itchy trigger finger. Im not going to do that. Some of the black white cases where the cop shoots somebody, it looks like the guys shot before thinking or when he had plenty of opportunity to protect himself and that person. Thats why this conversation is important. Thats what the president is trying to lay out. Also, kudos to president bush, who was also fantastic. Kudos to him. But laying out a positive perspective now what comes next. Police training and lets not pretend theres not bias. We have to act upon this bias and understand this. How do you tell a cop who works in a high crime rate area where a lot of crime is committed by the community and he says, you get that bill maher says it, whatever community you police, you end up not liking. Because you are constantly going up against them. What do you do about that . We hope thats not true. Most people in every community are not committing crimes. Let me be very clear about that. I think cornells right. There are some policies, some officers support body cameras. The idea of implicit bias training, you will hear about that coming up. I dont think that has to be necessarily controversial. I actually do think on this set of issues theres a way for the two communities, the police and africanamericans to come together. Im not sure they will be every part of the agenda but i do think there is some possibility here. In two years we could have fewer the goal is to have no police shooting. That will be hard. How do you get a cop whos had a lot of experience in the africanamerican communities, arrested a lot of people, has been scared a lot of times and taken steps to put him in a situation thats rough and he sees a black guy driving a car and says i got to erase that history i been through and open my mind to the idea i have no idea what this young man is like. I have no reason to believe hes scaring me, right . How do you keep that open mind in a scary job . Thats the quintessential question for all of us americans. This country doesnt work unless
we start to try to figure that out. Not just for the Police Officers but for the school teacher, for the doctor. Who makes a prejudicial decision. How do we have this conversations in a growing diverse america about we are all one america. How do you keep people from making profiling decisions . We hope that everybody thinks of each person as an individual entity. How do we get there . I think thats training, i think thats, look, we have a society where a lot of movies are based on the idea that black equals not as good, equals criminal and so on. I think part of it is an education process. Part of it is we have this africanamerican president who gave a very eloquent speech. I hope that moves things along. I feel like we are making progress and i think people are aware of it. Theres a lot of polling data showing a lot of the videos are proving to people oh, black people are not making it up. Think they work . I think they tell people its not in our heads. Its like there is some police problem. People are getting it. At the same time, you could have all these shootings on
video and no cops have been the laws are the problem. No cops have been convicted. What are you saying . Some on video and what happens . No cops have been convicted for these shootings that we have seen. But i think the videos almost always show misconduct. Dont they . But theres not misconduct you shouldnt die for selling cds. I meant misconduct by the officers. You see a guy running across the field. Hes not threatening you. Hes running away. Thats my point. Theres no conviction. The bias is still there. This is part of the problem that starts to be fixed, this you had a black lives matter group, and you had white lives matter and the leaders came together and said we will work on this together. The groups came together and hugged each other. Thats america at its best. I thought the president s speech was powerful today. And george bushs. I tuned in when the president came on. I will watch bush tonight. Thank you both. We continue to await donald trump tonight to take his stage, the stage hes taking in westfield, indiana tonight alongside the guy i think will be his running mate, indiana governor mike pence. Hes very religious, very conservative, traditionally conservative. Not the most happygolucky guy in the world as his running mate. In a world held back by compromise, businesses need the agility to do one thing another. Only at t has the network, people, and partners to help companies be. Local global. Open secure. Because no one knows like at t. Before it became a medicine, it was an idea. An inspiration. A wild whatif. So scientists went to work. Theyxamined 87 different protein structures. Had 12 years of setbacks and breakthroughs, 4,423 sleepless nights, and countless trips back to the drawing board. At first they were told no, well. Maybe, and finally yes. Then it was 36 clinical trials,
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somebody to do it. Christie wants it too. Is bridgegate over . For trump, yeah. You think thats over and who would you have more fun with on a campaign trail if youre donald trump . Christie or pence . Pence makes more sense politically. Christie would be a lot more fun in the debate. I think shes lets answer the fun factor. I didnt know that would come up. Is christie more fun than mike pence . Oh i think thats by far, yeah. In so many ways. I think that personality, that cult of personality that exists between the two of them is very special for them. Also with newt, he has a very deep seated relationship with newt. The six wives club. How can you do it . This is how it plays out. But no, that personal piece is an important part for donald trump. I didnt know it would be as important as it would be for
Hillary Clinton because Hillary Clinton expects to win now and is really picking probably a guy to be two doors from her for maybe eight years. A partner like joe biden is to president obama. Eight years is a very long time. I think she will be looking at the first four in particular. Thats what my brother said, its a long time. Eight years is a long time. Returning to trump and pence versus christie, i think the issue is as well when you ask is bridgegate over, not like mike pence walks into this with no baggage under his car as well. Whats his bad baggage . We look at indiana, at what happened with so many corporations veerevolting over t was perceived as an antilgbt bill. What did the bill do . It would have it was the guise of religious freedom. So if a guy walks into a wedding store for candy and they ask whos getting married . I think thats the most interesting thing about this comparison. People talk about bridgegate. Of course christie brings bag
ja age is very known and im not sure people care about it. Common sense, a point of clear sanity, trump said im looking for somebody who is not an outsider troublemaker like me, basically. Some words to that effect. I need somebody on the inside to give me an anchor on the inside. Somebody who works with the establishment. That would be pence. Is Chris Christie an insider . I think so. Christie at least has some experience. Hes been elected to office. Hes running about 26 . Hes not so popular at the moment. Where is he on the inside where people like him . Theres not very much a Vice President does for you, right . Maybe a little bit. So therefore im not sure thats true. Lbj brought kennedy home. That was the last time. Well, clinton. Clinton and gore was really the last time. Even in that instance you had two people from the same place. It was really about how the personalities sort of forced the
argument. The Vice President ial role doesnt really take shape until you win. Then you begin to define the job in terms of the white house. I think for the rest of this campaign, trump as well as hillary will be asking themselves can i hang with this person for the next three months. Thats why or the next eight years. does pence pull it off, does he come across as a big character with personality when he does this rally with trump . Does he have a i never thought of him that way. This is his chance to show us were wrong. The thing christie brings you is the ultimate attack dog over the next three months. You are a northeasterner. Im from chicago. From chicago. This would be the most northeast ticket in the history of either party. If i was going up against Hillary Clinton and had Chris Christie as i apossibla possibl guy took marco rubio out of the race essentially. He will destroy her every single day and hit her at the points he thinks shes weakest. Who will do that . Christie. Thats what the ironic
moments where trump gets to stay above it all. Exactly. Makes him look more president ial. Let christie go into the weeds and start tearing the weeds up on hillary. That dynamic works very nicely for him. I still get back to the question that i think trump is ultimately musing on. That is who do i want in my ear. Who do i respect enough to tell me how and why and when and where in this job as president , because hes coming to this completely blind with no political experience and now has control over this megagovernment. Someone with that kind of understanding of capitol hill, someone with that kind of understanding of how the states work in relationship to the federal government. Of course, thats what dick cheney did to bush. Ruined him. Well. He didnt ruin him. He did ruin him. Thank you, susan, michael and megan. Youre all staying with us as we wait for donald trump and mike
pence, to see how they get along. We will have a great hour coming up tomorrow on hardball. The one and only bill maher will join me with just days to go before the Republican Convention in cleveland, he has plenty to say about this race and of course, donald trump. Here he is, a bit. What are the odds on him right now, do you think . Look, i want to scare people into coming out to vote. How many out of ten . What are the odds . Two out of ten . Five out of ten . People say this to me all the time. Can he win. Yes, he can win. I want people to be very scared until november 8th. Dont get complacent. Anything can happen in this country. People have dumb ideas about what makes a president. They say things like well, we need to run the country like a business, hes a businessman. As long as they believe that, anything is possible. Again, a terrorist attack could help him and they dont like hillary either. So its always possible. So be scared. Be very scared. The zombies are in the maul. Go out and vote. Dont think this is in the bag. Its not two out of ten. Say five out of ten. Wow. I dont really believe that but i want to tell people that because i want them to be scared. Look for my interview with bill maher tomorrow night here on hardball. We believe tomorrow starts today. All across the state, the economy is growing, with creative new business incentives, the lowest taxes in decades, and new infrastructure for a new generation attracting the talent and companies of tomorrow. Like in rochester, with worldclass botox. And in buffalo, where medicine meets the future. Let us help grow your companys tomorrow today at business. Ny. Gov
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practiced and very controlled answer over and over and over again. Hes not loose in the way that donald trump is. But when i speak to people that are close to the candidate, they say that maybe he would want somebody like ed mcmahon to his johnny carson, somebody who will say yeah, youre doing a good job, somebody who will go to the funerals, do the ceremonial stuff he may not be interested in doing rather than somebody like Chris Christie or Newt Gingrich who he might have fun with, might have a good time talking with, but who will know how to legislate more than he does. Who will know washington more than he does. Who will maybe potentially outshine him when it comes to being a legislator. Is donald trump going to want that . Im not so sure. But i dont know. Im not in his head. I cant predict this. Youre great. Thank you. By the way, if he picks pence hes getting the davinci code. This guy is serious. Back at the roundtable, susan
page, Michael Steele and bloombergs megan kelly and susan page, who is actually the dean of all journalism these days. Okay. Now, heres the question. Was Ruth Bader Ginsburg out of line, in line, out of her lane when she took those shots at trump . Shes an associate justice of the Supreme Court and has to rule objectively and blindly on the law. I think she was out of line. I think she doesnt care. I think it was inappropriate. You cant play ann richards. Right. It says to me she thinks this is a really serious election and she plans to retire soon afterwards because it may be too late. If trump wins. Well, yes, if trump wins shes in some trouble. Bad life planning. Bad retirement planning. You can turn over your seat to donald trump after saying that stuff. I dont think its known this would be seen as inappropriate. She did it in three different interviews, with the a. P. , the New York Times and at cnn. I think she was prepared to take the lumps she knew was going to come. He i think going to come. Yeah, i thought it was out of line. We were talking before, if Justice Thomas had said Something Like that about Hillary Clinton, it would have been on fire. Its out of line. She doesnt care. I think she sees the exit door at this point and is moving in that direction. The roundtable is staying with us. Its a nice word for mortality now, the exit door. I like that. Up next, these three will tell me something i dont know. Be right back. The audacity in the end, that is gods greatest gift to us, the bedrock of this nation. Seeing the first black president , and the reason i say that is because i think the
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