Roy moore. For weeks, Congressional Republicans have distanced themselves from the Senate Candidate in alabama, but not donald trump. The New York Times reports trumps reasons for sticking with moore may be more personal than political. Quote, he sees the calls for mr. Moore to step aside as a version of the response to the now infamous access Hollywood Tape that of course was the 2005 tape unearthed during the election in which trump was caught on hot mic boasting about being able to grope women. Lets listen again. Now im automatically attracted to beautiful. I just start kissing them. Its like a magnet. Just kiss. And when youre a star, they let you do it. You can do anything. Whatever you want. Grab them by the [ bleep ]. Well, that assertion would directly contradict trumps own words in the hours after the tape was revealed last october. Here is what he had to say then. Ive said and done things i regret. And the words released today on this more than a decade old video are one of them. Anyone who knows me knows these words dont reflect who i am. I said it. I was wrong. And i apologize. And now he is saying he never said it. Today White House Press secretary Sarah Sanders wouldnt directly answer whether the president still accepts the authenticity of the tape, but said he hasnt changed his position. The president addressed this. This was litigated and certainly answered during the election by the overwhelming support for the president and the fact that he is sitting here in the oval office today. Hes made his position on that clear at that time, as have the American People and their support of him. Anyway, over the weekend, the president reinforced his severe thunderstorm for moore by attacking his opponent, democrat doug jones. The president went on twitter. He wrote there, quote, the last thing we need in alabama and the u. S. Senate is a schumerpelosi puppet. He went on to adds jones would be a disaster. In his second tweet, i endorsed Luther Strange in the alabama primary. He shot way up in the polls, but it wasnt enough. Cant let Schumer Pelosi win this race. Liberal jones would be bad. Nine women have made accusations of Sexual Misconduct against moore, most teenagers when this occurred. One says he sexual abused her when she was 14. Moore has denied all the allegations and President Trump has expressed skepticism about moores accusers. For more on trump by peter baker, chief White House Correspondent for the New York Times. Annie linskey, National Reporter for the boston globe, and eugene robinson, a columnist with the Washington Post. Peter baker here, what is going on here . You guys are reporting that trump is now denying there ever was such a tape, it has no authenticity which means according to im looking up on websters. Basically, he is denying its factual, that there is no real tape. What does he mean by that, there is no authenticity to that tape . No, exactly. He seems to be suggesting that the thing is a fake like Everything Else he says is a fake. Fake news media, fake reports, fake investigation, fake collusion with russia, fake everything. And it just seems to be part of this is a president that sets his own reality. And once he decided on a version of events and a version of facts as he sees them, he tends to stick to them. Whats surprising is he already previously acknowledged the authenticity of the tape. So then switch around and try to pretend or to convince himself or convince others that fact is not a real thing is a pretty big switch. You heard Sarah Sanders today. She really wasnt denying he had switched his view on it. She tried to duck the question. He has been telling people in private that he doesnt think the thing is real. Well, annie, just like peter said, whats her name, Sarah Sanders today said well, he was elected. Therefore i guess what he said matters and its okay. But looking up in websters, authenticity, worthy of acceptance of belief as conforming to or based on fact. Now there is a factual question here. Was there in fact him speaking on that bus in that access Hollywood Tape. Did that actually occur . Did we actually hear it . Or is it like groucho marx . We either believe him or believe his tape. What world we live in here where a president can deny what is obviously manifestly a fact . There. Are so many pieces and bricks that hold that story up that it was actually donald trump speaking. Billy bush, his voice was also on that tape. He lost his job because of it. And donald trump apologized because of this. I mean, another thing to look up in websters is the word credibility. Because, chris, every time every time donald trump pulls one of these stunts, he does something much larger to his presidency which is erode credibility. And thats something the United States president , the leader of the free world really needs when push comes to shove and he begins to ask americans to do unpopular things. Its sort of like he is trying to create his own reality. But its just not even slightly believable, because he himself has acknowledged it before. Too bizarre. Anyway, the access Hollywood Tape is not the first time trump bragged about his own inappropriate behavior towards women. In a 2005 interview with howard stern trump talked about walking in on contestants at the miss universe, miss usa pageants when he was owner of the franchise. Lets listen to his bragging here. Well, ill tell you the funniest is ill go backstage before the show. Yes. And everyone is getting dressed and ready and Everything Else. No men are allowed anywhere. Im allowed to go in because im the owner of the pageant. Im inspecting. I want to make sure everything. Is everyone okay . Stand there with no clothes. Is everybody okay . And you see these incredible looking women. So i sort of get away with things like that. Over the course of the campaign, more than a dozen women accused trump of Sexual Assault or misconduct. He calls the claims against him totally and absolutely false and attacked the women making the charges. Lets listen to him. These people are horrible people. Theyre horrible, horrible liars. Have no idea who these women are. I have no idea. When you looked at this horrible woman last night, you said yongts. All of these liars will be sued after the election is over. You know, gene, i think were in the midst of fun house mirrors here. I dont know what to describe it as. Trump brags about what he doesnt admit to doing relentlessly. The larger thing here, i want to talk about this. It seems to me he actually is afraid right now. He is afraid that the sleaze of roy moore is going to slip off on to him. Therefore he is determined even as he defends him, he doesnt want to be accused of being like him. That seems to be what he is worried about this week or even today. Well, good reason he would worry than. Because obviously if he is going to defend roy moore has he has been doing, then people are going to look back to that more than a dozen women who have accused him of Sexual Misconduct. But so now with this maybe its not authentic there are only two possibilities. He is lying. He is plain outright lying, or there is some kind of dementia going on. The president no im serious. That if the president can convince himself that a tape which he has apologized for, acknowledged and apologized for, is not authentic, if he can convince himself of that much less anybody else, you actually have to wonder about the president s mental condition. You really do. You know, peter, i go back to not that there is any moral equivalence necessary here. But remember clinton . Remember he had that tape with the old girlfriend and was it flowers. Gennifer flowers with a g. And in the tape, we all heard the tape. It sounded like his voice. In fact had to apologize to the late mario cuomo over it. But carvel, his guy went around, james carvel saying that was all edited tape. He kept saying edited. Here we are back again to reality check in a different case. I mean, we all watched that tape a one zillion times. Now he is saying its not authentic to your people. I think you two sources on this. Are they recent sources . How do we put these in context here of denial . The sources are recent. One of the conversations with the senator i think took place earlier in the year but was recounted to us recently. And its just so its not entirely in the context of roy moore. But its coming out now in the context of roy moore. You see him defending, if not defending roy moore exactly or sort of defending roy moore, definitely attacking his opponent and giving the impression whats his political move here . What is trumps move between now and december 12th . Does he want moore to win . Does he want him to lose . Is he setting it up that he has a winwin here . Whats going on . It is a winwin in the sense that if roy moore wins, he will claim undoubtedly it is because he stuck by him while the rest of the National Republican party didnt. If roy moore loses its because the republicans picked the wrong guy. Remember, he endorsed Luther Strange in the primary. So therefore people should listen to him in the first place. No question he will cite it is a mark of his influence either way. But he is not going down there. Sarah sanders said today his schedule does not allow him to go down to alabama between now and december 12th to campaign for roy moore. And thats his choice as well. Whether he doesnt want to be too associated with him, even though ship here defending him and sort of saying that he is being unfairly attacked, in effect like he thinks or at least he is saying he thinks. He was unfairly attacked last year. He is giving him a full gillespie in other words, what he died the guy in virginia to lost. Gillespie didnt have the same kind of allegations, to be fair. No. No but he also wouldnt be seen with the guy. So is he somehow the president you want to say you should be elected by, but you dont want him to be seen with you . What is the nuance here, annie, if you get in here. Yeah. Why do people want trump to endorse them but they dont want to be seen with him . Or he doesnt want to be seen with them. Yeah, i think its a bit of the opposite where i think roy moore would welcome donald trump with open arms down there. This is a lifeline for his campaign. With gillespie in virginia, there was a bit more ambivalence about whether trump would be really helpful for him because you have all these suburban voters. But at this point, roy moore is a republican on life support. And if he is able if he wins down there, which he may very well do, i think absolutely donald trump is going the take credit for that and just swim in it. And as well he should. The polls that have come out since trump has been supportive of roy moore have switched and have changed the dynamic down there quite a bit. Weve had one upset in alabama recently. Meanwhile, some republican senators all but campaigning against moore. South carolinas Lindsey Graham and tim scott, both from South Carolina. Both called on moore to exit the race for the good of the Republican Party and the country. Lets listen. I dont know what winning looks like with roy moore. If he wins, we get the baggage of him winning and it becomes a story every day about whether or not you believe the women or roy moore should he stay in the senate, should he be expelled. Its pretty clear to me the best thing roy moore could do for the country is to move on. Explain the new south will, you . Theyre not that many miles apart between South Carolina. Is South Carolina now to the left of alabama . It seems like it. Apparently. Look, the senators from South Carolina are part of the republican establishment. The republican establishment is at war with the Republican Base in many ways. And its a Republican Base in alabama that is supporting roy moore. And look, look at roy moores ads. His campaign right now is more against Mitch Mcconnell than it is against the democrats. Its an extraordinary thing. I just wanted to comment one other aspect of this whole story, though, which is the idea from Sarah Sanders today that winning an election voids anything that you did before. Completely voids all these allegations, these credible allegations of Sexual Misconduct against the president and presumably if roy moore were to win, would void the allegations against him. Thats nonsense. Its not true. It doesnt just make it all go away. Yeah. You know, gene, thats why youre a great columnist. This is a real turn in the wind, that now if you get elected, then everything you said is true, no matter how dishonest it was. It reminds me. I watched a Football Game this weekend where a quarterback jumped up in the air and threw the ball over two lines of scrimmage and hit the guy in the end zone. I said we have seen something close to the forward pass this weekend. Brandnew. Anyway you caught the pivot in history there. Thank you. I dont want to have too many comparisons here. Eugene robinson, annie linskey, and peter baker. Good work on the times again. Coming up, former National Security adviser Michael Flynn have stopped talking to Donald Trumps legal team, signaling flynn may have flipped to become a witness for special prosecutor Robert Mueller. What does this mean for trump and muellers investigation . Thats ahead. Plus senator al franken says he has a long way to go to win back the trust of his supporters. His renewed apology comes as nancy pelosi is under new criticism of her defense of congressman john conyers. And using a ceremony honoring the navajo code talkers who helped us win world war ii to repeat his oft repeated nickname for senator Elizabeth Warren. And senator warren has responded. And trumps mere near the top 1 . This is hardball, where the action is. But at home. She thinks shes the boss. She only had me by one grade. We bought our first home together in 2010. His family had used another insurance product but i was like well ive had usaa for a while, why dont we call and check the rates . It was an instant savings and i shouldve changed a long time ago. Theres no point in looking elsewhere really. Were the tenneys and were usaa members for life. Usaa. Get your insurance quote today. Roy moore is back on the campaign trail tonight. Meanwhile, he is out with a new ad, slamming liberal elites and the republican establishment. Lets listen. Five state campaigns, 40 years of honorable service. Roy moore has been intensely scrutinized and not a hint of scandal. But four weeks before the election, false allegations, a scheme by liberal elites and the republican establishment to protect their Big Government trough. Well be right back. sigh dad molly trash whoo mom hey, molly . Its time to go bell ringing class, lets turn to page 136, recessive traits skip generations. Who would like to read . molly i reprogrammed the robots to do the inspection. Its running much faster now. See . Its amazing, molly. Thank you. welcome back to hardball there are potential signs of another shoe to drop in the trump russia probe. Led by special counsel Robert Mueller. Nbc news has confirmed the reporting from the New York Times that lawyers for michael t. Flynn notified the president s legal team in recent days that they could no longer discuss the special counsels investigation according to four people involved in the case. An indication that mr. Flynn is cooperating with prosecutors or negotiating a deal. There are good reasons why flynn could strike a deal. He has a lot of potential legal exposure. And as we learned this month, mueller has gathered another evidence to bring charges in the investigation. However, trumps defenders have publicly downplayed any possible consequences for the president himself. Trump attorney jay sekulow warn nod one should draw the conclusion that this means anything about general flynn cooperating against the president. And a white house official told nbc news there is no concern at the white house that flynn will implicate the president. Abc news also reports that flynns lawyer met with muellers team this morning. Im joined by two msnbc contributors. Matt apuzzo broke the story in the New York Times and Barbara Mcquade is a former federal prosecutor. Lets get the news, matt. What do we know now factually in terms of the situation with flynn, his attorneys and their relations with the white House Attorneys . Sure. Its common practice in these complicated white collar investigations for people involved in the case, whether its witnesses or subjects to have either formal agreements or informal agreements to share information, kind of keep each other abreast about whats going on in the investigation. Last week, Michael Flynns lawyers cut off President Trump and his lawyers and said we cant play ball anymore. And thats a clear sign that Michael Flynn is either cooperating with mueller or is negotiating some sort of Cooperation Agreement with bob mueller. Now of course that can change. Those deals with fall apart. But thats the state of play. You dont buy this other report that they were meeting today . The white house people with the flynn lawyers . Well, these are conversations that are going to be ongoing. And certainly if a deal does get struck, then theyre going to be happening again and again. Okay, im sorry. These are conversations between flynn lawyers and muellers lawyers. There is no interplay now between the white house lawyers for the president and those for Michael Flynn . Right. What happened is Michael Flynn said sorry, cant talk anymore. Cant be part of our previous deal, an indication that Michael Flynn was going to be talking to bob mueller. Okay. Let me go to barbara on this. Barbara mcquade, thank you for your expertise here. Weve been waiting a long time with the speculation, ill call it that, or even more so the belief that flynn was vulnerable to being squeezed, and that his squeezing would lead perhaps to his testimony against the president. How do you see this latest news . Yeah, well, i agree with matt that it does seem like the most likely scenario here is that there is some cooperation going on. And the reports that there was a meeting today between flynns lawyers and the mueller team suggests that they are going down that path of providing information to reach some sort of Cooperation Agreement. You know, it seems like a turning point may have been when there was reporting that flynns son faced some exposure. Flynn himself may have said im a tough guy. I can take it. I dont mind going to prison. But when his son started facing some criminal exposure, that might be the thing that provided the inducement for him to cooperate. Now how is this done in the back room when they sit there prosecutor to attorney, defense attorney. Do they inch it along . It is like an interrogation . How do they move a witness toward that they want or find out what he had . The first is a proffered agreement where the prosecution says come in and tell whats you know and well agree not to use your statements against you because we want to evaluate what you can tell us. One we want to evaluate credibility. Use immunity. Thats right. Does it match up with other facts we can know so we can establish credibility. And also making an evaluation of whats this worth. Are you just telling us things we already know or are you telling us new things that could be valuable to news our investigation that qualifies as what is known as substantial assistance, in which case wed be able to give you something, some leniency in exchange for that. First step is witness, you come to us, target you come to us and tell whats you know under this use immunity and well take it one step further from there. And would this have to be in open court . Would they have to give this testimony . In other words, would Michael Flynn the general have to testify against someone in open court, perhaps even the president . The first step would be to talk in a Conference Room to see what they know. But it could ultimately lead to that. The next step might be to testify before a grand jury. And to receive full credit in a case is going to trial. Then yes, that could be part of the agreement that he would have to provide sworn truthful testimony at a trial. Matt, what do we know about the context . Has the president been talking . I remember right after flynn was fired, basically, he was fired, the president made an effort to sort of pat him on the back, keep in touch, publicly supportive, trying to keep the ties open between the two of them. Yeah. And the white house has been signaling for some time here that no matter whats with Paul Manafort, the former campaign chairman, no matter whathappens with flynn, the president is not concerned that they have anything they can offer against the president. And frankly, Michael Flynns exposure here includes matters that arent directly related to the president. Undisclosed lobbying related to turkey. So the president and his team are saying, yeah, sure, he is going and he is talking to prosecutors that doesnt mean he is giving up anything on the president. Well, they can put him away for the fara act, the Foreign Agents registration act. They could hit him with Something Like that and throw the book at him . Couldnt they, barbara . Threat tony throw the book on what would normally be seen as an oversight and say no, this is your decision not to register as a Foreign Agent and were going to push you against the wall unless you tell whats we want. Sort of the same charges we saw with Paul Manafort with respect to the failure to disclose your lobbying activities on behalf of the foreign government. Based on reporting weve seen, it seems like theyve already got charge theres. But weve also seen evidence of perhaps even more serious charges. The conversation about kidnapping Fethullah Gulen out of pennsylvania. Sure. And the information sally yates provided in her testimony before congress when she was concerned that flynn might have been compromised by the russians there might even be more activity that could bring with it more criminal exposure in terms of a harsher sentence. All that of would be explored by mueller. I dont think he wants to be done with the quick and easy fara charge if there is other more serious crimes. What attorney general yates had on him. What was that thing with the russians that she thought he was guilty of . Well, you may recall that sally yates came and testified in may before congress about her conversation with don mcgahn, the white house counsel. And although much of the content of that was classified, so she wasnt able to get into the details of it in a public setting, what she said was that statements that flynn had made and had told to Vice President pencil in appear to be not truthful because of other information that she knew that had been brought to her attention by the fbi. And that information caused her to believe that flynn might have been compromised by the russians. So we dont know exactly what that is. But ill bet you Robert Mueller does. Because he would have access to all of that information. Matt you on top of that too . Do you see all the possible exposure that flynn faces if he doesnt come clean . Yeah, there is no question that he had some serious exposure. And as you said earlier, our reporting shows that flynn really was concerned because his son also had criminal exposure here. Michael flynn jr. Was essentially his fathers chief of staff. So a lot of these meetings and a lot of the financial deals, if Michael Flynn was aware of it, involved in it, his son was too. And weve been told that Michael Flynn has said in recent days and weeks to friends that he was concerned about his son. And so this does seem to be an instance where muellers putting pressure looking for pressure points to apply. And in this case it was his son. You can see a situation where Michael Flynn, he is one of the most important advisers to the president ial campaign. He is the architect of the America First policy. He is supposed to be the bedrock of the president s National Security team. Im not sure if im bob mueller that i can go through that investigation and not get a sense of what Michael Flynn knows. Well, just because he has done some bad things doesnt make him a bad man. Well see. Its going to be very important. I think he may end up going witness for the prosecution. Thank you so much, matt apuzzo of the New York Times and Barbara Mcquade for your expertise. Up next, allegations over Sexual Misconduct continue to rock capitol hill. Nancy pelosi is under fire right now this monday for what many call a tone deaf response to congressman john conyers yesterday on meet the press. This as senator al franken returns to work today and vows to regain the publics trust. This is hardball, where the action is. Why do you put up w . Believe it or not you actually like what you do. Even love it. And today, you can do things you never could before. Youre working in millions of places at once with iot sensors. Analyzing social data on the cloud to create new designs. And using blockchain to help prevent fraud. So get back to it and do the best work of your life. And using blockchain to help prevent fraud. The lowest price of the year. For just 59 its the only dna test that can trace your origins to over 150 ethnic regions and open up a world of possibilities. 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Her ring includes two diamonds that belonged to harrys mother princess diana. Back to hardball. I know there are no magic words that i can say to regain your trust. And i know thats going to take time from these stories. Its been clear that there are some women and one is too many who feel that ive done something disrespectful thats hurt them. And for that i am i am tremendously sorry. Welcome back to hardball that was democratic senator al franken of minnesota, apologizing to the women who have accused him of Sexual Harassment, including a news anchor who said he forcibly kissed her and three women said franken grabbed their backsides while meeting them in public. With allegations of Sexual Misconduct continuing to surface, there has been a renews u. N. Ed focus on the men in congress. John conyers stepped down yesterday from his position as Ranking Member of the house judiciary committee, but continued to deny the allegations made against him, even after his Office Confirmed that it issued a settlement to a woman who said she was fired after resisting conyers advances. And questions arose about how the democratic leadership handles allegations of Sexual Harassment when House Minority leader nancy pelosi said on meet the press yesterday that she didnt know if she believed conyers accusers. Lets watch. We are strengthened by due process. Just because someone is accused and was it one accusation or it is two . I think there has to be. John conyers is an icon in our country. Do you believe john conyers . I dont know who they are, do you . They have no, maam knot come forward. So you dont know if you believe the accusations . Thats for the Ethics Committee to review. But i believe he understands what is at stake here. And he will do the right thing. Im joined right now by the nbc capitol hill correspondent kasie hunt. I have loved your reporting on this. Youve had a great perspective every time you reported. The tricky thing, a number of factors there is the charge that have not been proven yet, though they seem to be acknowledged in a way, or the settlement was made because this woman didnt do what the chairman wanted her to do. But then there is the black caucus power. I worked on the hill all those years. I know the enormous power within the Democratic Caucus and the sensitivity about matters of seniority, the Ranking Membership chairmanships which these members spent decades to achieve. Very sensitive about anyone being pushed aside. What happened yesterday to get conye conyers, who is a very stubborn guy to give up his Ranking Membership on that committee . Youre absolutely right about the politics at play here. Its part of what nancy pelosi stepped into what every democrat i talked to proiftly has said was a pretty big mistake on her part in the meet the press interview. She was speaker and now she is democratic leader has come from the congressional black caucus. And she has come under fire in the past. She pushed charlie wrarangel ouf the ways and means committee. She has been working behind the scenes throughout this process to try to encourage this outcome starting on tuesday when the allegation first came out. My understanding based on my sources is that there was an agreement that he would step aside today. But after that interview that she did with chuck todd, it was made clear that the timing of that needed to accelerate. And it was i think around this issue of sensitivity to the cbc that you bring up. And we should note too there was some pressure from members of the cbc who said hey, you should step aside while this investigation unfolds. Well, lets talk about al franken . I think franken has i dont even know i know the circumstances. I accept them all prima facie. I dont think there has been a serious dispute what he did in the circumstances on the uso tours, the seven tours he took, what he did in that case in that rehearsal. It seems to me what happened, happened. The one about the time he grabbed some one at a state fair, that seems to be what happened. He hasnt denied it. He says he cant remember it. Assuming the cases have merit. It seems to me the senate is left in the Ethics Committee with a couple of options. They can reprimand him. They can censure him. Joseph mccarthy was censured basically. So were talking about whether he gets reprimanded or not. Isnt that sort of the lay of the game here, the situation . I think thats right, chris. I think part of this, an undertone people arent necessarily talking about is some of the cases weve seen when there is a problem, there is a serial problem there is a lot of other people out there who come forward. Fair enough. And i think that senator franken waited for ten days. And i think an ethics investigation could potentially uncover more there is more of a Comfort Level now that they have an understanding of what actions were taken that women thought were inappropriate. And i think you saw franken approach that with what i interpreted to be real contrition and embarrassment today on capitol hill coming back up. He seemed like a diminished figure. He is somebody with a Big Personality who has a famous past as a comedian. An he had just started to come out and sort of be that comedian again in public. He sort of set it aside and tried to run as the straight man, the unfunny guy previously. He developed some credibility as a politician and was coming back out into kind of the fuller personality of what we might remember al franken from being on snl and other places. That clearly has evaporated in the face of all of this. Well see what the investigation, the ethics investigation uncovers in that particular case. I think that they have some option. They could, as you say, reprimand him. Expelling him would be very rare. Censure would be very rare. Obviously weve talked about expulsion in the potential case of roy moore. I think that would be an extraordinarily extreme example. Yeah, i think not since the civil war have they gone that far. I think we have to keep our eyes as viewers and me as my role. What are the charges . Have they been proven thoroughly . We dont try people in the press. I think the charge to someone who was fired because that wouldnt have sex with the chairman of a committee or a Ranking Member is an awful, awful situation what we know about al is we know what he did. And it looks like there is not a dispute over fax. Well have to look at that. As you say, very smartly, if is there a serial problem here, if there is a behavior problem which would merit a lot more serious sanction here, a lot more serious. Thank you so much, kasie hunt. Ive loved your reporting. Thank you. Up next, donald trump uses a ceremony honoring native americans to once again revive his ugly nickname or idiot nickname, because idiots would use this nickname, Elizabeth Warren, for her. Thats straight ahead. Youre watching hardball. Thats it . Yeah. Everybody two seconds dear sebastian, after careful consideration of your application, it is with great pleasure that we offer our congratulations on your acceptance. 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Who inspires and pushes us to go further than we could ever go alone. Sofi. Get there sooner. Welcome back to hardball. President trump used an event recognizing native americans to once again revive his oft repeated nickname for senator Elizabeth Warren. Trump was speaking at a white house ceremony honoring navajo code talkers who served in world war ii when he referenced warren, saying they call her pocahantas. Lets listen. Youre very, very special people. You were here long before any of us were here. Although we have a representative in congress who they say was here a long time ago. They call her pocahantas. But you know what . I like you. Because you are special. Well, notice how he didnt even accept authorship of the nickname pocahantas. Senator warren responded on msnbc this afternoon. Lets listen. It is deeply unfortunate that the president of the United States cannot even make it through a ceremony honoring these heroes without having to throw out a racial slur. Look. Donald trump does this over and over, thinking somehow he is going to shut me up with it. It hadnt worked in the past. It is not going to work in the future. Im joined by the hardball round table tonight. Dana milbank, columnist for the Washington Post. Anita kumar for mcclatchy newspapers. And politics writer for the u. S. News and world report. Lets go to david on this. David, i think we see the beginning of a 2020 matchup here. What do you think . Oh, that would be great, wouldnt it . But put some context into this about how pocahantas evolved. It was during the 2012 campaign of Elizabeth Warren where she had it listed that she was native american to try to apply to law schools to be a professor. A genealogist dug it up and found she is 1 32 native american. She was using this to try to become a minority hire. For trump its word ocean. He is in this event with white house event with native americans. He doesnt have any other association with native americans. So the first thing he goes to is the insult to the senator from massachusetts. And, you know, i just think this is how this guy. Its nicknames. Its the easy insult. And thats what he went with today. Anita, he seemed like he was afraid of the face of the native americans, some of them very heroic people for our country. Because he had to say they call her pocahantas, which is a lie. He calls her pocahantas but was afraid to say that to her face. So even he has a little bit of shame here. Maybe . What do you think . Oh, i dont know. I think david is right. He is just trying to think of something to say as he is there, he ad libs a little bit. Clearly that couldnt have been in his prepared remarks. It jogged something in his memory. He thought about it there is a lot of news today about his pick for the Consumer Financial protection board. Elizabeth warren helped put that into place. Perhaps he was just thinking about her and it jogged something with memory and he thought he would just say it. You know, i think he gets up every morning. And besides thinking about himself, which he does quickly, he also thinks who might humiliate him in 2020. I do think he thinks about her because i think she is one of the people who could stand on the platform next to him and match the stuff, the mud back and forth, she can throw it right back at him, maybe with more victim. And and i do think he doesnt want her to exist on this planet, basically, and thats why he keeps going at her. I do think thats true, chris, although its hard to know whether anything was premeditated in Donald Trumps head. I saw and wondered if he would pull the pocahantas line again. You cant call the man because he parodies himself. I dont think people appreciate just how outrageous it is because were talking about native americans. Imagine this president telling to the assembled jews, yeah, weve got one of those over in the senate, chuck schumer. They call him heimie. Can you just imagine the reaction . And then this blows up shirks hitting 40 circuit here. I think he has gotten African Americans with his birther crap and went after mex americans with theyre all rapists and muslims are all terrorists. And now he is working his way back to the people who built this country in the first place. I mean, he is hitting all the points here. He is. Of enmity. Im not even aware he is sure it is offensive to some people. I dont even know if its a joke because pocahantas is a cartoon character. Its hard to get in the president s head on this. But when he is riffing like this, i dont even know if he understands the gravity. His aim wasnt at native americans. And now because he is speaking in front of a group of native americans hero, obviously they have to share this thing from the insult, even though the initial insult was somewhat comical because it was directed at someone. They had done it and thats a fact. And theyre questioning. Look, republicans are pushing out tonight, the white house is pushing out that they dont believe Elizabeth Warren is authentically native american. They are still contesting that. The Washington Post didnt even fact check it because it was very hard to. So theyre trying to focus on that fact, that she fibbed this to get ahead years ago. You mean when she said she was 1 32 get a affirmative action opportunity . A affirmative action opportunity. And the genealogists said she was 1 32. Thats the statistic from the new england genealogist society. Thats the best they could come to on this. So people have thrown their hands up on the fax. And thats sort of what republicans are arguing, that she started this by fabricating it in the beginning when she was trying to get a job at harvard. Here we are in d. C. And continually, but not lately talking about redskins as the name of the Football Team which played on this thanksgiving which a lot of people felt was quite ironic. The indians gave them the food. We gave them the turkey. They helped us from starving on thanksgiving and it does go round and round, anita. It sure does. Look what happened today at the white house briefing. I was there this is the day they wanted to talk about tax reform. And here once again Sarah Huckabee sanders had to be talking about something that donald trump said just a few minutes earlier. This was one of the shortest briefings she has had in weeks, i think. It was 16 or 17 minutes. And most of the questions were about this, not about the topics they wanted to talk about today, again. What a strange job she has. 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Ends monday. Trump watch. Monday, november 27th, 2017. This tax bill trump is pushing is an insult to democracy. Its trump saying mere near the countrys top 1 . The trump tower tax cut for the top donors to the Republican Party. A payoff for service rendered and nothing more. Why, you have to ask yourself, is he getting rid of the estate tax. You to should know so a couple with more than 11 million to give their kids will be able to do it taxfree. More than 11 million to pass on because thats the amount they can give under present law. Trump wants to double that amount to 22 million. Who would he be doing that for . And while he is giving this huge bonanza to americas dine cities, he is killing the individual mandate, the underpinning of the Affordable Care act. Why would he do that . Because it allows him to cut a third of a trillion dollars in taxes from those at the very top. It helps give corporations a tax cut from a rate of 35 down to just 20 . Democrats are unlikely to vote for this bill. Republican senators are going to do it themselves. If your senator is one of those giving this bill the thumbsup, be sure to remember that, and that he or she did it. A republican candidate for president once infamously mocked what he called the 47 who depend on the federal government for special breaks. Presumably he meant those lower down on the income scale. But at least mitt romney was only talking out of school. Donald trump is now giving the lions share of these tax cuts to the top 1 right in your face. If you think this is a good idea, write your republican senator. Tell him good work. Keep it up. If you dont think this trump tower tax cut is such a good idea, tell him or her that too. Here are the republican senators to keep an eye on this week. Bob corker, rand paul, susan collins, john mccain, jeff flake, lisa murkowski, and ron johnson. And thats hardball for now. Thanks for being with us. All in with chris hayes starts right now. Tonight on all in lock her up. Thats right. Is Michael Flynn cutting a deal . General flynn is a wonderful man. Tonight as flynns lawyers meet with the special prosecutor, the mounting evidence that President Trumps former National Security adviser could be cooperating with Robert Mueller. Its something the white house should be very concerned about. Plus why it is appropriate for the president to use a racial slur in any context . The white house defends the president s racial slur during an event honoring native americans. They call her pocahantas. Then why two different people today claim theyre running the