Capitol hill next week. Mr. Cohen clearly had some significant credibility problems. Prosecutors and agents have a lot of experience working with witnesses that have credibility problems. What he really did yesterday was create a whole bunch of additional witnesses that the house is now empowered to try to bring before them. Folks like Allen Weisselberg at the Trump Organization, the president s children. The good news is what we did see out of the Michael Cohen testimony was there was a lot positive for the president. He confirmed what weve all said, that there was no collusion with russia. The fact remains there are at least four or five areas where there is very credible evidence that the president committed very serious crimes. The list of contenders and the democratic primary just keeps growing. Another democrat throws his hat in the to 2020 ring as Washington Governor Jay Inslee announces hes running for president and running on one issue. Were the first generation to feel the sting of Climate Change and were the last that can do something about it. All right. A lot of reaction coming in today to the New York Times reporting that President Trump himself ordered top secret, sorry, security clearance for soninlaw and Senior AdvisorJared Kushner, overruling the concerns of intelligence officials. Now, to be clear, as head of the executive, the president has the ultimate authority to decide who gets a security clearance and who doesnt, but it is exceedingly rare for a president to overrule intelligence. President trump and those involved in this story continue to deny that he interfered. The times report reports that trumps decision was so troubling that the then chief of staff john kelly and White House Counsel Don Mcgahn both wrote memos documenting trumps order. But in an interview in january, President Trump told the New York Times he did not tell anyone to give kushner security clearance. Did you tell general kelly or anyone else in the white house to no, i dont think i have the authority to do that. Im not sure i did, but i wouldnt, i wouldnt do it. Jared is a good i was never involved with his security. Now, just three weeks ago kushners wife ivanka said the president had no involvement, or in her or her husbands clearances. Depp White House Press secretary told the washington post, quote, the white house treats all security clearances individually, neutrally, and equally. And in a statement to msnbc just moments ago, a spokesman for kushners lawyer said in 2001, white house and security clearance officials excuse me, 2018, white house and security clearance officials affirmed that mr. Kushners security clearance was handled in the regular process with no pressure from anyone. That was conveyed to the media at the time and new stories, if accurate, do not change what was affirmed at the time, end kweet. Quote. Joining me now, ken dilanian, and bradley moss, welcome to both of you. Ken, tell us what the story is, nbc news reported White House Security officials initially rejected Jared Kushners application after a background check which raised concerns about a potential for foreign influence. So, i guess if donald trump can legally arrange to get him clearance, why would he deny having done that . The only reason that makes sense to me, ali, is that they were trying to avoid embarrassment. You know, the notion that there was nepotism at play here, that donald trump was going to cast aside the rules and the bureaucracy for granting security clearances and simply give one to his soninlaw and his daughter. But thats what happened, because as you said, we reported that the career officials took a look at Jared Kushners security clearance application and said he didnt deserve one. They were overruled by their boss at the white house. That man did that because donald trump ordered it done through his chief of staff and his white house counsel. And both of those men wrote memos about it. Now put house is going to want to see those memos. They are investigateth the whole process of how the Trump Administration grants security cleerngss and there is a real Public Policy issue because there are valid concerns about whether foreign governments have influence over Jared Kushner because of his many foreign business entanglements. Bradley, there is a real Public Policy issue as ken says. There may not be a legal issue, though. Correct, ultimately there is not a legal issue here because what has been said by the white house is true in that the president has the ultimate authority. Ali, he could give you a security clearance today. He could give you the most top level security clearance and access to Nuclear Codes if he wanted to absent impeachment of the 25th amendment being invoked. Thats his constitutional authority. But granting security clearance is a time honored sacrosanct process everybody goes through. I go through, my clients have gone through. It is a very standardized process and is supposed to be handled by career Civil Servants on the investigative side and adjudicative side. They make the assessment based off the information they have, based on the same guidelines that applies to everybody no matter what your position or level of authority. That was not what happened here. Special choices, special privileges were afforded to Jared Kushner here. That is inappropriate. It is not necessarily illegal. Ken, you mentioned Congress Wants to see some of this stuff. House oversight chair Elijah Cummings is demanding documents having to do with security clearance. It is not just limited to Jared Kushner. It is not, ali. In fact, our sources told us on 30 occasions, the career specialists at the white house were overruled. So people they thought shouldnt get a clearance were granted one. We dont know the identities of those people. We know its a lot of the same issues. Foreign influence, business entanglements. There were people who came to the Trump Administration who had never had clearances before. It was very normal there would be delays and extra scrutiny. Whats not normal and what hasnt happened is for it to be bypassed. Congress wants to know the details about that. It looks like theyre going down the road to subpoenaing some of these documents. There will be a fight, though, because the white house will assert executive privilege. Bradley, you heard Chris Christie say it. The concern for a lot of people is not that donald trump can give top secret clearance or that there is a policy issue around it. Why is everybody lying about it . Back to kushners application, if you recall, he had to make several amendments. There were contacts he had with foreigners. He left off his form several times. There were a lot of red flags for kushner to get the clearance in the first place. Correct. We just heard on wednesday issues about the president making false statements and the president attacking Michael Cohen about his credibility. This president has problems with telling the truth on a regular basis and it raises that 64,000 question. Why did they lie . The president could do this. He didnt even have to put him through the vetting process if he didnt want to. Did they do it because they were embarrassed, they didnt want jared to get the embarrassment of a denial, is that why they originally lied about the president intervening . Youre absolutely right. The way this was handled from the start, from the very moment Jared Kushner submitted his standard form 86, which is the security paperwork everybody has to go through to get a clearance, was never done properly. He did not even list out his foreign contacts at the beginning and then he got to wait five months before he gives it to the fbi. None of my clients, none would have ever been granted interim access in that context. They would have been laughed out of the building. Its strange situation. Guys, thanks very much. Ken dilanian and bradley moss. Coming up, the money man is going before congress, this man, Allen Weisselberg will testify in front of the House Intelligence Committee as the panel calls several trump connected witnesses, including another round with former fixer and lawyer Michael Cohen. Were going to get into what will be next. But first, according to the New York Times, Governor Andrew Cuomo placed several calls to amazon executives including Ceo Jeff Bezos himself trying to win the company backs after it pulled out of a planned Second Headquarters in new york city. The governor even wrote a letter saying he would take personal responsibility for the projects state approval. No word whether amazon will reconsider. Youre watching msnbc. Re watchi. Originally discovered. In jellyfish. In clinical trials, prevagen has been shown to improve shortterm memory. Prevagen. Healthier brain. Better life. Welcome back. Former trump lawyer and fixer Michael Cohens testimony is apparently going to be keeping democrats on capitol hill for months. The Associated Press reports democrats are going to be investigating Trumps Campaign ties to russia, potential conflicts of interest, possible Money Laundering and other oversight matters that democrats say were ignored under gop control. That includes calling a number of people in trumps orbit to testify, potentially including Trump Organization cfo Allen Weisselberg who cohen mentioned multiple times in testimony in front of the House Oversight committee. Weisselberg signed one of cohens reimbursement checks for paying alleged hush money ahead of the 2016 election. Joining me now, ariana berg, former federal prosecutor with the Southern District of new york. Marc fisher, Senior Editor with the washington post. Also coauthor of trump revealed. Mark, let me start with you. You know a lot about Allen Weisselberg and the role that he has played in sort of everything trump, right, the Trump Organization, the trump foundation. What is his role so far what has he been doing with authorities . Hes had some limited immunity. And what can he help congress understand . Well, look, in the world the intricate web of companies and entities that the Trump Organization has created through the years to mask some of the deals that theyve made, it would take a lifetime to unravel that web of entities because Allen Weisselberg has spent a lifetime putting together that web. And so he has been talking to prosecutors in the Southern District of new york. They gave him a limited immunity deal so that he would come forward and talk, but theres no evidence that he has been terribly forthcoming. And so if hes called before congress, i think we can continue to expect that he would be rather less than completely forthcoming. Hes the guy who knows everything. He knows exactly how the Trump Organization has structured its deals around the world, how they dealt with the trump foundation, how they did the hush money payments, those kinds of things. So this is an absolutely integral person. This is a small family operation, the Trump Organization. And other than the blood relatives, Allen Weisselberg is the number one person who knows how it all fits together. Ariana, lets follow this through a little bit. Weisselberg, first we say alleged hush money payments. Theyre processed through court, they paid these women, Michael Cohen paid these women. Michael cohen brought receipts about who paid him back. In this sense, if weisselberg is closely tied to things that were done that were illegal, what kind of footing does weisselberg have to not cooperate with congress or for that matter with the Southern District of new york . Yes, thats right. Allen weisselberg really presents, i think, the biggest potential body blow to donald trump as well as to his children and any other Trump Organization employees. But that, of course, assumes that when he comes to testify if he comes to testify that he tells the truth. And as youve just mentioned, ali, there could be potential criminal exposure there. In fact, i would suspect that there is quite a bit of criminal exposure there for Allen Weisselberg. And we have, as prosecutors and congress as well, certain tools to try to incentivize people to speak truthfully and under oath. I am guessing that he would assert his 5th amendment right against selfincrimination if he were called to testify in front of congress. Our understanding is that hes already been given limited immunity with the Southern District of new york, and my understanding is that that was just for grand jury testimony, largely against Michael Cohen. And, in fact, we know that Allen Weisselberg is still employed by the Trump Organization, still goes to that Office Building every morning, and so his allegiances are strong and clear with donald trump. Theres also been reporting that hes in a joint Defense Agreement with donald trump. And so presumably, we have to worry about him passing along information about what questions in preparation they want to ask of him. So immunity would be certainly something they would have to deal with if he were to come testify, and that would really be the only way to guarantee his testimony. If i were one of the prosecutors in the Southern District of new york that were working on this case against Michael Cohen and potentially Trump Organization employees, i would not be ecstatic about weisselberg coming to testify in congress. You never want a potential witness in your case to be on the record under oath with dueling potential statements. That creates lots of problems and also it might interfere with my ability to sign him up as a cooperate error charge him later. There are a lot of differences, mark, between alan Michael Cohen and Allen Weisselberg. To arianas point, we dont know what his legal exposure is. There is a difference. If two of these guys, Michael Cohen and Allen Weisselberg, are going to tell you everything they know, its actually notwithstanding the payments of hush money, weisselberg probably knows as much if not more. Weisselberg knows a good deal more. Weisselberg has been at the inner core of the trump world since about 1973 when trumps father, fred trump, hired him as an accountant. Hes spent his entire life this is a 71yearold man who spent his entire adult life working for the trumps. And most of that time in trump tower. Hes one of the most trusted people and one of the most loyal people in the entire Trump Organization. And he certainly knows everything thats gone on through all the years. In sharp contrast to Michael Cohen, who although he was there for more than a decade, was really one of a series of lawyers who donald trump employed to be his fixer, his enforcer, to make problems go away. Those lawyers tended to come and go over the years with trump, but Allen Weisselberg is the one continuing Central Force in that organization. Ariana, let me ask you about the House Intel Committee expecting to question felix saider later this month. Hes a russianborn business associate of President Trumps. He worked with cohen on the trump tower moscow project. His name came up a couple of times in cohens testimony. How important is this . Well, i would say its very important. Hes coming to testify apparently march 14th. Adam schiff says he expects most of that testimony or hes going to try to make most of that testimony public. Im skeptical whether theyre going to be able to do that. As you mentioned, ali, felix saiders testimony will likely talk about the trump tower moscow deal and also any efforts that there were, coordination with the russian government to interfere in the u. S. Elections, littleknown fact about felix sater is we know from reporting that there was a november 2015 email between Michael Cohen and felix sater in which felix sater says, our boy, buddy our boy, can be elected as u. S. President and we can help engineer that. And he says something to the effect of, and ill make sure that the whole putin team gets behind it. So we dont know ouch. It could just be all big talk. We never know. We dont know what actions were undertaken to followup on that. But that would be certainly a line of inquiry that the representatives would want to pursue, and i would guess, given the mueller investigation, they would have to do that in a closed door session. It is an interesting situation where you have all these blustery exaggerators who say things and its hard to determine whether they were bragging about something over which they had no power or whether they actually went and did something and made phone calls and arranged meetings. Thanks to both of you. Ariana berg, former prosecutor with the Southern District of new york and mark with the washington post. The president took a dictators word. This time kim jonguns insistence he was unaware Otto Warmbier was tortured in north korea. 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The United States is planning to end a large scale joint military drill or all of them with south korea. Officials say the move is part of the effort to ease tensions with north korea after the failed Second Nuclear summit between President Trump and kim jongun. Nbc News National security and military reporter Courtney Kube broke the story and joins me now. Courtney, if this happens, who benefits from it . So, this is something the u. S. Military has been looking at for sometime. Remember after the singapore summit of 2018, President Trump made it clear he was against the idea of these large thousands of people thousands of troops joint exercises between the u. S. And south korea. For years they have occurred at least twice a year, in the spring and in the summer. When President Trump made it clear he didnt want to do those any more, the military started looking at ways they could change the training and change the exercises so they didnt have the large ones, but they didnt have a real impact on readiness. With the announcement that were expecting any time in the next several days actually, the announcement is going to be that two of they have that are generally held in the spring, key resolve and full eagle, are ending. Theyre not going to conduct those any more. But they have been replaced with a series of smaller exercises that allow the military, both the u. S. And the south koreans, to continue to Work Together to continue to be prepared should they need to, you know, face some sort of conflict, ali. So, when were talking about readiness here, its never clear based on the way President Trump characterizes these joint exercises, whether they are about readiness or whether they are a show of force, or whether, in his opinion, theyre just costly and unnecessary. Whats the closest to the truth on that . So, for years ive been covering the military for nearly 15 years. And in that time i have heard over and over from the u. S. Military about how critical these are to readiness and to what they call inter operability. The u. S. And the south korean and other allied nations being able to Work Together, you know, know how their equipment works together and to be able to train and whatnot all at once. But these clearly also were and have been a show to north korea and in some ways to china, they act as a deterrent value. In the story in our story we talk about how one of the concerns from the u. S. Has historically been north korea potentially the best time of year they would invade south korea would be around march, in the early spring or late winter, because of the ground. They could roll their tanks across the still frozen ground. Thats when these spring exercises were usually conducted to coincide with that same time. It was a very visible and enormous show of force against north korea for years. All right. Courtney, thanks for your great reporting on this. Courtney kube in washington. Thanks. The parents of a hostage held in north korea wrote a rebuke of how their son died. The 22yearold passed away after he returned to ohio from north korea where he was held captive more than a year and fell into a coma. His parents saying, quote, we have been respectful during this summit process. Now we must speak out. Kim and his evil regime are responsible for the death of our son otto. Kim and his evil regime are responsible for unimaginable cruelty and inhumanity. No excuses orlovish praise can change that. This response comes after President Trump made his statement, this one, in hanoi on thursday. I dont believe he knew about it. Kim jongun he felt badly about it. I did speak to him. He felt badly. He knew the case very well, but he knew it later. He tells me he didnt know about it and i will take him at his word. Join being me now live in vietnam is nbc newss chief global correspondent bill neely. Bill, what President Trump said is something he says about a lot of World Leaders who are accused of doing bad things. He denied it strongly. He told me he didnt know. He told me he didnt do it. I take him at his word. What we saw from the family is a powerful summit. Umenyiora been in vietnam throughout this summit. Whats your sense of it . Yeah, so first of all, kim jongun is still here at the milly hotel not far from where im standing as is his foreign minister ri. He didnt mention it in his brief statement, 99. 9 certain that the North Koreans will not comment on this any further or on the familys statement. The family statement, of course, did not mention President Trump, but it was absolutely clear what they were saying. Kellyanne conway on fox news just a short time ago said the president agrees with the warmbier family and holds north korea responsible for their sons death, holds north korea responsible. Chairman kim, she said, did not know what happened to otto at the time when it happened. And, ali, i timed President Trumps statement yesterday on Otto Warmbier. It was a minute and a half. It wasnt a passing comment. He went out of his way to defend kim jongun. Kim jongun felt badly, he said, he tells me he didnt know about it. Ill take him at his word. I dont believe he would have allowed this to happen. I dont believe he knew about it. He knew about it later. It wasnt to his advantage to have allowed that. He thought about it, he thought about the background, he thought about the motivation. He thought about kim jonguns possible gains. He thought a lot about it. Ali, nothing happens in north korea without kim jongun knowing about it, especially when its an american hostage. So i have to say, rather like his statement yesterday about why the summit broke down, this strains credibility that kim jongun simply didnt know about it. But, look, its up to the president whether he believes this man or not. Right. But think about in helsinki with Vladimir Putin where donald trump said he said he didnt interfere in the election, i take him at his word. Then after khashoggi disappeared and was found to be killed in the Saudi Embassy in istanbul, he said he didnt have anything do with it and took him at his word. Is trump trying to be in peoples good graces because he thinks the personal relationship will help him get something he needs in the end, the nuclear deal or is he gullible . Hard to know whats going on in his head, but we do know that personal relationships do matter, and the relationships with the two men that you have outlined certainly matter to him. In fact, all three. But the fact that he would i mean, i was there in helsinki in the room when he equated Vladimir Putins view with the view of his own intelligence agencies. This is extraordinary. It seems likely that Mohammed Bin Salman knew a lot about the killing of jamal khashoggi, but still, President Trump defended him. Some republicans, as i think youve been mentioning, have been clearly distancing themselves from the president , senator Susan Collins said that she found the president s statement extremely hard to believe. Senator rob portman of ohio, actually, which is Otto Warmbiers home state, warned trump not to be naive about the, what he called the brutal nature of the north korean regime. The and the former senator Rick Santorum said trumps statement was reprehensible. Even those people who are clearly on his side find yesterdays statement a little hard to take. Bill, always good to see you. Thank you, sir. Bill neely for us in hanoi, vietnam. Just this hour, the 11th major democrat announcing a run for the white house, jay inslee is the first governor to announce this year hes the first candidate to make Climate Change his leading issue. Hes not the only one on the trail this hour. Kamala harris is in las vegas. Elizabeth warren is in iowa. Cory booker is in south carolina. Were talking about the contenders next. Youre watching msnbc. Hey, save. This round is on me. Hey, can you spot me . Come on in find your place, today, with silver sneakers. Included with Many Medicare plans. Call the number on the screen now or visit getsilversneakers. Com but if something happened to you. You need Life Insurance and chances are selectquote can get it for you for under a dollar a day. Selectquote found michael, 38, a 500,000 policy for under 23 a month. 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And just this hour, washingtons governor jay inslee is officially announcing his bid for the white house. Inslee said moments ago hes running to fight Climate Change. Now it is time for our nation to set a new priority. So i am announcing today that i am a candidate to become the next president of the United States. I do so because this is truly our moment. It is our moment to solve americas most daunting challenge, and make it the first foremost and paramount duty of the United States, and that is to defeat Climate Change inslee bazemore the 11th major democrat to announce the president ial run. Alley vitale i is in seattle. Alley, inslee is distancing himself with the focus on Climate Change. Many of the others have focused on medicare for all or some sort of universal health care. Is Climate Change enough of a concern for voters to turn to him over the Health Care Issue . Reporter ali, i guess were going to see. You said that he made the announcement, thats true, but hes still speaking behind me so im going to speak a little bit quieter than normal. Everyones thoughts around me. Democrats made their issue in 2018 health care, and now that someone is coming out as the Climate Change candidate, which is very much what jay inslee is trying to do in this race, it will be interesting to see how the voters coalesce around that. The reality of the situation is not very many people know who jay inslee is. At least not yet. So its going to be incumbent on him to get out there and get that message out there. And also show voters what hes about on Climate Change and a whole rash of other issues. I will say its interesting its always interesting to see how candidates react to donald trump in their announcement speefrpe speeches. Inslee mentioned trump. There are few issues where trump has undone what obama did on energy and climate and green policies. Jay inslee is someone who can combat that record directly and make his bench as someone who has done the opposite here in washington state. But as hes talking right here behind me, you can hear him making the pitch on other things Like Affordable Health Care and gun control, issues that are central to this race as well as Climate Change, ali. You have a future in Golf Tournament reporting. This is kind of interesting for me. Im always at a high yell and im having a conversation with you and im like leaning, what did she say . What did she say . Joe biden hasnt declared hes running, but he got into hot water after calling mike pence a decent guy. Lets listen to what he said. Followed on by a guy who is a decent guy, our vicepresident , who stood before this group of allies and leaders and said, im here on behalf of President Trump. The criticism, allie, came from people who were members of the Lgbt Community and their allies. Who said there is nothing, quote, decent about being an antilgbtq rights and that includes the vicepresident , whats the feedback been on this . Yeah, Cynthia Nixon is one of those people fighting back about positive comments about mike pence. Its one of those things where you look at what happens on twitter and you have to wonder whether thats the reality of what happened on the campaign trail. Thats what we see consistently. If you look on twitter, the consistent conversation there is often around russia and the president s legal troubles. On the campaign trail, i hear very little about that. I think its going to be interesting as we go forward, seeing the dichotomy between those two things. Look, joe biden has been someone who has been in the senate a long time. He is someone who likes to tout bipartisan credentials. Its not surprising he would give a little bit of praise to a fellow vicepresident. Finally, beto orourke, someone who is not declaring, he said hes made up his mind about running for president. Do we know what hes made up his mind about, what hes doing and when hes going to tell us . We know hes not running for senate. Thats definitely one decision hes made. Whether hes running for president jay inslee is finishing up behind me. Thats why youre hearing the big applause. The interesting thing is the entire lead up to 2020, theres been a lot of questions about the three bs, bernie, biden and beto. Bernie sanders jumped in the race a few weeks ago. Everyone is looking at joe biden and beto orourke to see if theyre going to jump in. If you look at early polls, those are the names that keep rising to the top. It will be interesting, if they stay in or out, there will be indications on this race. The one thing i hear from voters is they love that they have a big deal to choose from, but theyre hoping they can see all their options laid out earlier rather than later because theyd like to know who theyre choosing. Allie vitale helping us, thanks for employing your entire range of vocal modulation. On day two of the cpac conference, vicepresident mike pence gave remarks earlier this morning Donald Trumps oldest son anticipated release of the mueller report. I have been saying for a while, put it all out there. Put it all out there. How about dont redact anything. If im even the subject of this thing perhaps one of the initial catalysts of it. Joining me live, cpac in national harbor, maryland, join me is garrett haake. Theres been talk about the mueller report, conversations about alexandria ocasiocortez, Michael Cohen and what a terrible dishonest guy he is, are there issues being discussed at this conference . There are, ali. Its so fascinating. The issues being discussed here ive been coming to this conference, this is my fourth year in a row. The issues are the same. Theyre talking about immigration. Michelle malkin is talking behind me, immigration shed like see him ted. There is a lot of talk about abortion, rebuilding the military, israel. The issues tend to be the same. The context around this conference has changed so dramatically in the four years ive been covering it. This has become a protrump conference more than it is a conservative conference. He is the uniting factor for all of the folks who are attending here. History changes around this conference. If you were to listen to the speakers over the course of two days, you would here about three president s. Ronald reagan who is held up as an exemplar here, then barack obama who is the worst president of all time, and then donald trump. The bush family, entire legacy, has been erased from conservative history at this conference. And then finally, who is the modernday bad guy. Ive been covering this for a long time. Three out of the four years ive been coming to this, iechlt heard a lot about nancy pelosi and the democratic party. Every speaker ive heard in the last two days has talked about alexandria ocasiocortez, conservatives make her the scary face of the liberal left, redefine ing what they see on the democratic side. It is fascinating to watch the shape of the issues, how it changes in such a short period of time. All right. You also had a chance to speak with Kellyanne Conway about the president s comments about Otto Warmbier, which have now had a response from the warmbier family that was very critical, particularly of kim jongun. What did kellyanne have to say . Reporter i read her about the statement from the warmbier family. She stopped me and said she had just gotten off the phone talking with the president about this and tried to recast the way the president discussed this. Take a listen and decide for yourselves what you think. The president agrees with them completely that their son died at the hands of the north korean government. What the president is saying is that chairman kim saying that he did not know what was happening to otto as it was happening when it was happening. That was the genesis of the president s statement. But it has never changed that and the president has never changed completely that north korea was completely responsible for Otto Warmbiers death. Reporter the question conway didnt answer i tried to ask a couple different ways. I understand the president was repeat ing what chairman kim told him. What does he believe, does he trust the north korean leader, someone he has been in love with and talked about theyre pen pals . I didnt get a convincing answer one way or the other from conway about that question. That was a remarkable answer. Chairman kim did not know what happened to Otto Warmbier when it was happening. Thats some wordsmithing. Reporter and i asked her. Do you really believe an american citizen could be essentially tortured in the north korean regime for as long as Otto Warmbier was there and that the leader of the country would know nothing about it . She said thats what the president was told. Garrett, thank you, my friend. Garrett haake for us at cpac. Up next, the senate narrowly confirmed the president s new pick to head the Environmental Protection agency. Were going to take a deep look at who this guy s Andrew Wheeler and why so many groups are worried about his conversation t malaysian. Youre watching velshi ruhle live on msnbc. N msnbc. Oh no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Only pay for what you need. Liberty. Liberty. Liberty. Liberty. About medicare and supplemental insurance. Medicare is great, but it doesnt cover everything only about 80 of your part b medicare costs, which means you may have to pay for the rest. 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Look for the pink cap. All right, the Environmental Protection agency has a new administrator, the Senate ConfirmedAndrew Wheeler to run the agency that protects the nations environment and in turn your health. Who is he . Andrew wheeler, he began his career in d. C. At environmental law during president george h. W. Bush. He also served as a long time aide in oklahoma, for a state well known of oil production. In case we have forgotten because we keep hearing 2014 had been the longest year on the record, i ask the chair, do you know what this is . It is a snowball. Thats fwr outside here. It is very, very cold out. Oh my god, it is cold out and there is a snowball. There must not be any Climate Change. We had this discussion before, right . You remember me saying climate and weather are two different things. Back to wheeler, well talk about climate weather in a second. When he left to congress, he became the lobbiest for the coal industry. A corporation that produces about 76 million tons of coal per year. Thats a little problem. He lobbied for a uranium firm. Okay, there is tom context of why folks are worried. I want to continue our conversation with jacob ward. Coal is an industry and they have lobbyists. Coals do tend to be at odds which are designed to create regulations from keeping companies dumping stuff into the water and putting stuff in the the air thats making it dangerous for us. It does not mean one right or wrong. These are entities that are at odds at each other. If we assume that the american system is working then these are supposed to be entities that fight against one another. The thing of the epa is different from leading the u. S. Department of agriculture or u. S. Department of labor. You may come in there thinking you may speed things up and agencies are supposed to facilitate commerce at some level. It banned ddt, it is why we have unlitted gas in our cars and invented treatment plants. It does these things to protect people. It is not supposed to be facilitating commerce. To have a guy who comes from a world of commerce to run it is a disturbing thing. I am a business guy and i heard a lot of people complaining of too much regulation. It is a little hard for small businesses. Most americans who think there are too much regulations dont tend to think about Environmental Protection. You go back to lets say 1969, the year before epa was established, you had sewage running directly from cities into our rivers and streams and Drinking Water at time. You had people putting led paint in their houses where it would get into their children. It was cheap to produce. The reason it was created, there was not a good agency pushing back on the free market which tends to bring in Dangerous Things scientifically to the economy lets talk about scott pruitt. He lasted in his job was because he was doing Donald Trumps gods work, he was deregulator. Right. If your goal is to get rid of regulation, epa is ground zero for conservatives. Thats exact ly right. Andrew wheeler is scott pruitt who knows how to behave in public to get away with what he gets away with. His policy perspective is pretty much the same but he just seems to be a lot smoother about not a advertising it in public. He went before confirmation and basically said Climate Change israel and he has a certainly of eight or nine or ten that it is real. He immediately appoints john christie. Hes a guy thats going to say one thing but do another but it is the same as cot pruiscott pr. Jacob ward. Thank you, sir. As we are learning more of Jared Kushner, despite repeated denials of special treatments. Well look at the danger that it could pose for the country to go around the normal security clearance. You are watching msnbc. Are watcc. Like my bike and my calves. Liberty mutual customizes your Car Insurance so you only pay for what you need. Liberty. Liberty. Liberty. Liberty. 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