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Explosive and for the past 24 hours, it has seemed like his confirmation is in serious jeopardy. All eyes are on four key republican senators, jeff flake of arizona, bob corker of tennessee, Susan Collins of maine and lisa muir crkowski of alaska. All of them called for a delay in kavanaghs confirmation to hear from dr. Ford. But now all are wavering, that ford should appear on monday whether public or private before moving forward with a vote. President trump has remained mostly silent on the subject, something thats doing republicans a favor. The president spent the day touring parts of north and South Carolina after hurricane florence. About kavanagh, he only said that. Kavanagh is such an outstanding man, it would be very surprising if anything happened. This cabinet has been treated very, very tough. And his family is very, very tough whats going on. I think hes a man of great intellect and hes had an unblemished record. This has been a very tough thing for him and his family. That is vintage donald trump. Just think of roger ails or bill oreilly. His strategy is always question the accuser and believe the accused. Hes a good guy, cory. It but i cant destroy a man. We wish him well. He worked very hard. I found out about it recently and i was surprised by it. But we certainly wish him well. Do you believe roy moores denial . Do you believe him . Well, he denies. I mean roy moore denies it. And by the way, he gives a total denial. Roger ails, is he helping you, advising you . Hes been a friend of mine for a very long time. Hes just a very, very good person. Republicans need women voters if they want to hold on to the senate in november. So how the senate handles the allegation against kavanagh is those senators who believe the tent is big enough for them too. And a democratic strategist a democratic impact strategist and the meet the press team found what is a very striking quote from Bob Woodwards book, let me read it, its on page 175, donald trump gave some private advice to a friend that had acknowledged bad behavior toward women. Real power is fear. Its all about strength. Never show weakness. It youve always got to be strong. Dont be bullied. There is no choice, youve got to deny, deny, deny and push back on these women. If you admit to anything, to any culpability, then youre dead. I mean thats also the way hes behaved against all of the women accusers who have said that he behaved in an inappropriate way with him. Absolutely right, thats why the last thing you want if youre the white house staff, you dont want him talking about it. Obviously hes gone off script since then. You would think that going in and visiting north and South Carolina, that trip would have helped kind of deflect some of the kavanagh stuff, but donald trump just didnt help himself, thats why the republicans want to move this as quickly as possible possible. If theres not going to be testimony by dr. Ford on monday, they are going to move to a vote. He always does this, though, with men that he likes who have been accused. Cory lewandowski was accused of assaulting a reporter at a rally. Trump defended him saying what a good guy he was. Lewandowski was seen on video. But theres also bill clinton, not recently when he was running against hillary clinton, but back in the late 90s when he was being accused, he defend bill clinton. At what point are we going to talk about that, yes, this is Donald Trumps pattern, obviously, but the very fact that he has to do this so often because he surrounds himself with people for whom this is a problem in the first place, to speak to something broader here, not to take attention away from judge kavanagh which is obviously a very important question. But hes the guy that had the access Hollywood Tape and he bragged about being able to assault women. Does that change the calculus of anybody knowing that this is the guy whos in office and theyre the ones who elected them. The tolerance for men going around and assaulting women, bragging about it, defending one another, saying its locker room talk and just kind of patting each other on the back about it is over. And the fact that we have more women running for office right now for congress than ever before in history is going to galvanize the female electorate in ways that we cant even imagine. This is not just about donald trump, we already know hes a jerk. We already know this, but were at a Pivotal Point right now in our society where this kind of behavior is not okay anymore. And the repercussions are going to come out. If that is a political dagger for republicans, why are republicans not pushing back on kavanagh and saying, listen, we need an fbi investigation, we have got to get to the bottom of it. Why they are say tepid in dec e deciding whether theyre going to back off of him. When this came out, there was a question as to whether the Senate Republicans were going to have the confirmation hearing this week and then when dr. Fords identity was announced and there was a lot of pressure to hear her side of the story, because she had come forward even though she didnt want to and was forced to by democrats. They said okay, well have a hearing in a week, it can be closed, it can be open to the press, whatever you want, and now theres another question involved is, should there be an fbi investigation before. Well the Senate Judiciary statement, even Susan Murkowski who serves on the committee that they have given time to her. Is that something that collins and corker even flake are going to eventually support him . It seems like again because the timing is critically important, if they can have this hearing on monday, confirmed on thursday, that gives it about five weeks to kind of get lost in the news cycle as people are going to the polls instead of having it continually be there. Is this a strategy by the republicans to push it forward, or is it a strategy by the democrats to delay it for political purposes . I think it can be both things. But republicans want this off the plate, they have only six weeks left into the midterms, so they are very concerned about what they have to fix going in and you cant have this settled on october 15, theres just not enough time, advertising whatever, speaking from strategic side to come back from that. Americans should be strate strategically confirmed just to win an election. Thats what democrats have been talking about. Whoa, slow this down, we didnt even get to review all of the documents on kavanagh in the first place, let alone to understand who he is. Now there are these new allegations. This guys job is going to have implications way in the future. Do you think this is a political football for either party . I think the thing you can take from this is that youre absolutely right, theres no real time horizon that has to be on here, every time democrats say we have to get this done quickly, democrats say you remember Merrick Garland who was eight months before there was a hearing . If they were so eager to hear from this woman, Dianne Feinstein did have this in july. You dont give dwoefense to r saying that the victim did not want to be identified . I do give credence to her, but in the end they still identified her. So why did they do it at the end . Because it was a hail mary pass, they decided to out her so they could pursue their best political interests. That might be, but what this man did deserves and war rabbra investigation. Too many people are trying to shrug it off that he was a teenager. But whatever was happening in her life was consequence shall and she had to take responsibility for it. So he also needs to take responsibility for what he was doing when he was 17 and we should be able to investigate and talk about that. Having that conversation about policy and politics, a couple of months before the midterms is a tough thing to do. Why would you not want the fbi to look into this . There was a woman who said she went to school with dr. Ford and was a year ahead of her, she says she remembers talk about this incident in the hallways afterwards. And an fbi investigation would go and talk to that woman and she would be under threat of perjury to the fbi she would have to tell about what she knew and there would be more color surrounding what actually happened. And other people who were mentioned in the letter and what she had said, apparently said to reporters and to others now, and this is the part where it really does make it clear just how capitol hill a lot of this is, especially with republicans trying to jam this through. This is not a hard thing for the fbi to do, its simply talking to some people who they can find, not to minimize the scope of the investigation, but its not as if this would take weeks and weeks and weeks, so when you see people on capitol hill saying theres no need for an investigation, but the precedent is there to do that kind of investigation. So when they say lets just move on from here, we have heard from this guy, we have heard from everybody we need to hear from. Its hard to say its not a political strategy just to gain votes. What happens if she does testify in public . Is that good news or bad news for the republicans . The republicans are already in a bad situation, there is no good way of combiing out of thi period. If she goes in front of the judiciary, in front of 11 white men, it will be viewed as an interrogation, because questions have to be asked. So that would be a very, very bad optic for republicans, but if it means that they have to suffer that in order to vote, to get the vote done, its worth that shortterm pain to get the confirmation done. Its a question of shortterm optical pain as youre talking about, versus longterm political damage done to the republican brand and i think that we are sort of going over something here or alluding to something here that has already happened. But i speak as a republican, our brand is already trashed. Theyre really not going to make it that much worse among especially suburban women. Thats not going to change. But i think we pretended the last few days didnt happen and that voters arent paying attention already. This is the season that voters start to Pay Attention to this stuff. Theres been no bigger story in the last few days. On saturday five states will start voting. Nd and if you dont think th suburban women voters and men who are disgusted as well, if you dont theyre getting organized. Helping the republicans by allowing the republicans to say, hey, we need to keep the senate in order to make sure that we have a conservative judge in place. They used the conservative judges as a reason to hold their breath, hold their nose and vote for donald trump in 2016. At least some did. They have talked about doing that, but its a really hard case to make if kavanagh is actually the nominee now. Because the conflict has not been over other conservative judges. They would still do something as quickly as possible, because if the senate turns and goes democrat, for example kavanagh is a historically unpopular nominee. 31 of the country says he should be confirmed to the Supreme Court. Because hess so unpopular, why not pull the nomination and thin use it as a Political Tool and say, listen, we need to keep the senate noin order to confirm another conservative judge. Because they have to get this nom nations by hook or by crook by the end of the year. By hook or by crook . Thats where they are right now. They have to get this done. And it is more important and lets not kid ourselves, any nominee donald trump puts up is going to match his base popularity. Pretty much close to it. So if its not kavanagh and its someone else. Im willing to bet that theyre going to have really low approval numbers too. And thats unfortunately the way this process is going to go, probably for a very long time, whether it be a team there should be more time for americans to get to know who was being put forth. Thats exactly why. Given that most people dont like it, given that we know the scandal, there should be more time. Theyre trying to ram this through, and Merrick Garland didnt get a vote. I think he should have gotten the vote, i think he would have been a great addition to the justice. Susan, stay with us. Up next, if you thought the president s relationship with Jeff Sessions had already hit rock bottom, you would be wrong. Need a change of scenery . Kayak compares hundreds of travel and Airline Sites so you can be confident youre getting the right flight at the best price. Cheers kayak. Search one and done. Td ameritrade select securitiese 24 hours a day, 5 days a week. So i can trade all night long . All night long. Lets reopen the market. Trade 24 5, with td ameritrade. This is not a screensaver. Game. This is the destruction of a cancer cell by the bodys own immune system, thanks to medicine that didnt exist until now. And today can save your life. Welcome back. President trump launched one of his fiercest attacks yet on attorney general Jeff Sessions. In an interview witrump slammed sessions for his recusing himself from the russia probe. President trump said i dont have an attorney general, its very sad, he went on to say that sessions performed very poorly in his confirmation, and the people who worked with him for a long time in the senate were not nice to him. But he was giving very confusing answers. And yet, this is how President Trump responded afterwards when asked if he will fire Jeff Sessions. We are looking at lots of different things, i have a great cabinet, we have the greatest economy ever in the history of our country, so were very happy with the way things are running generally speaking. Panel is back. Theyre looking at lots of different things. Why doesnt he just fire Jeff Sessions . It could not be more painfully obviousi inhow many ts various people around him have said we know how much you dont like Jeff Sessions, you cant fire him. He said he was sad, he was confused and he was putting him down at every opportunity. And clearly Jeff Sessions knows if he quits which a lot of other people would do in this situation, that the senate would not be able to confirm anybody to replace him. They can find somebody whos already been Senate Confirmed and put them in place for temporary term. Temporary is the keyword there. Lindsay graham the other day was saying that the president should fire him, and i think a few others came out and said as well, hey, listen, its a foregone conclusion. Theres a few things to take note of here. First of all, he went back to his confirmation hearing, which was the reason why he ended up recusing himself. So its interesting that hes going back to see what testimony he offered then, so that they be something thats going on in the legal team. Do you think that the president may have rewatched it . Youre right, theres no filter. But the other thing is i think Jeff Sessions is going to have an opportunity to rewrite his history a little bit and he may be the one who says i stayed, i dealt with this president , but i stayed because i wanted to protect the mueller investigation. Thats the only way im not saying its true. Listen, from a certain perspective, hes done everything the president wanted. He did that horrible policy separating children from their parents. He is not making any doing anything to help criminal justice reform. So hes doing the president s bidding on policy. But the president cant get over himself. This is all about him and all about the investigation and it goes no but it goes no further than the president looking at his he doesnt know what his job is, the president s acting like the attorney general is supposed to be his personal attorney. And thats his problem. Because he cant get what he wants out of Jeff Sessions. Jeff sessions has always been a boogie man to those of us who didnt want him to have that job when he wanted that job. And thats one of those people in Trumps Administration who thinks he is a patriot who thinks hes doing everything he can do on behalf of the United States despite this president. So i think he may be in there doing something we may not even be watching and well have repercussions down the road, unfortunately. And if youre a democrat, you should be furious, if they got rid of Jeff Sessions, but its a few weeks before the midterms, theyre saying, get rid of Jeff Sessions and see what happens. Its not just Jeff Sessions whos getting the president s air today, its the fbi, he said he hopes one of his great et cetera as chooechlts. I hope to be able to the president of the United States is calling his fbi a cancer on society. This has just gotten outrageous, this is the most unpatriotic president we have ever had who literally has attacked every federal Government Institution that hes supposed to be leading and guiding, and the fact that people arent up in arms about that and recognizing just how not a patriot he is and how hes hugging dictators and other things. Thats just beyond me. Its also just a fundamental misunderstanding of what the entire department of just does, its not supposed to be his personal defense. And this is all about the russia probe. Im agreeing with both of you, he doesnt understand it, blah, blah, blah. At the end of the day, theyre investigating him. Hes looking to declassify documents that the only pump it would serve to do it is to get out in to the press some basic evidence that could be used against him, for personal against him in the russia probe. Whats interesting is this may be another example of the president s own administration slow walking one of his requests. Take a listen to this from ken delaney of nbc news, in response to the Justice Department announced monday they would begin a declassification review of the material. That struck some intelligence officials as a stalling tactic, given that the president is the ultimate Declassification Authority and hes already directed the documents must be declassified. Interesting. Because they have already been reviewed and redacted and the president is wanting above and beyond what the fbi has already said would be inappropriate to release because of sources and methods and that it will put our country in danger. But again, donald trump, number one priority. What happens if they put the brakes on it and they go through the review process, does the president wise up to it or is it one of those scenarios where he doesnt remember it in a couple of days and then a month from now, hell be saying what about my documents . If we believe this is being slow walked which seems to be the patd tetern of this administration. Shadow presidency. Theres almost reason to think that wouldnt happen in this case because one of those people whos been pushing this whole declassification issue is devin nunes, so if this doesnt happen soon, theres a world in which you start to hear more noise from republicans. They havent actually read the documents so they dont even know whats in them. Jay sekulow says he doesnt know whats in the documents, he doesnt have the security clearance to read them, devin nunes does have security clearance, but that memo wasnt so helpful to the president. Do you think that this administration is hanging their hat on carter page, a man that russian spies called a useful idiot . Ive stunned you into silence. Its a matter of convenience. Exactly. Theyre hanging their hat on but cant that backfire. Of course it can and it probably bwill. Hes in the 30s, hes not going to go below 32, 31. Hes not . I think that would be really hard to get the Republican Base in a Midterm Election year right now. But its just another bit of news and noise right now, and thats frustrating to people, especially journalists like you two because there are some important things to cover, but things like this get covered by whos going to happen in the kavanagh scenario tomorrow and thats going to be get blown over a few days from now about Jeff Sessions. They have a president whos constantly dragging us back and forcing ugh to focus on the russia investigation, his fight with Jeff Sessions and the Supreme Court nominee and the things hes said about him, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera, and they go on and on and on. And hes fashioned himself as the nationss the Republican Base cannot continue to win national elections. This was a fluke, the donald trump election was a fluke, right . I think it was a fluke, because i dont know what the republicans game is for the next national election, but hanging your hat on a president really, im interested in whats going to happen in suburban women, who has people fleeing away from him except for that 31 , 32 of the base. I dont know how theyre going to win big if they hang their hat on him. Its the hope that the whole country is so fractured that nobody can agree on any one person and the person with the most of the minority ends up being the winner. An uplifting hope. Dont go anywhere, coming up, President Trump heads to the flood zone. Hey allergy muddlers. Are you one sneeze away from being voted out of the carpool . Try zyrtec®. Its starts working hard at hour one. And works twice as hard when you take it again the next day. Stick with zyrtec® and muddle no more®. face the world as a face to be reckoned with. 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Most importantly, no missile testing, no nuclear testing, now they want to put a bid in for the olympics. Now we have a lot of very good things going. Prior to my coming into office, a lot of people thought it was inevitable we were going to war in north korea and now the relationships, i have to tell you, at least on a personal basis, theyre very good. Its very much calmed down. Joining me now the gordon chang, whos written extensively on the region, gordon, what do you think of todays announcement from korea and north korea and what do you think of what the president said there . What the president said about there was going to be war before he took over. The Obama Administration had a policy of patience to wait north korea out. Some of the things the president has said were intended to get the North Koreans to the bargaining table, but the threat of war was when trump took office. What do you think of the offer from north korea, theyre willing to do all of these things, which sound very good, in exchange for concessions from the u. S. . The kim family and progressive governments in south korea, are very good at creating euphoria, the problem is they have not been able to sustain it over a long period. And part of it is because the kim family has really not been able to deal with the International Community in good faith, including the South Koreans. There was some promises, there were some gestures, but nothing very specific or severe. When you promise to dismantle a complex that enriches the bulk of your uranium, that seems like a big deal. The promise to dismantle the only place where they can process fissile material where they get the fuel for nuclear weapons. But they said we need concessions from the u. S. , and we dont know what they are. Probably relief from sanctions, but its going to be big. Because as you say, taking apart yongbin is an important part of the United States wish les list. It would clearly have to be either u. S. Or International Atomic Energy Agency inspectors largely because the u. N. Has to have a role in this. What about the halt in the missile tests, do they need to be doing missile tests any longer . No, at least not now. And the reason is they got a lot of telemetry from all of those sorts of tests. The missiles they have been testing are not really that sophisticated, they are big and powerful, but other countries have them. So the North Koreans can get this information from other places. And the president said, well see if hes going to meet with kim jongun again, does that mean its more than like they will have a second summit . I think they will. Clearly kim wants a summit. President trump wants to have a summit. So eventually its going to occur. It may not occur this month, which some people have been speculating about in new york at the u. N. General assembly meeting. Are things working so far . Things are working in a sense. President trump before he went to singapore for the summit with kim jongun said he was going to give the North Koreans this one shot opportunity to do the right thing. So theres not been as much pressure on the North Koreans, were not pursuing sanctions with vigor. We ha and kim is softening his response. You have to say things are going in the right direction. Nikki haley accused how is russia or for that matter china affecting negotiations and affecting u. S. Policy toward north korea . Theyre affecting the negotiations by putting a lot of money into kim jonguns coffers. Not as much as he wants, but certainly as much as he needs. And they have been violating the u. N. Sanctiosanctions, china ha doing that, russia has been doing these ship to ship transfers at sea. And the South Koreans say well violate them too, which is what they did just a few days ago with opening up that liaison office. What about the tariff and the trade war thats happening between the u. S. And china, how is that affecting north korean policy many. I think certainly the chinese ruler is not in a mood to help the United States on tariffs. But i think we have got to impose these tariffs because the chinese have been stealing hundreds of millions of dollars worth of intellectual property a year. I dont think we have that luxury to say well just deal on that one issue. Gordon chang, good to see you, usually when we talk, its because something terrible is happening. Ill try not to come around again. Next up, does the democratic road to the senate go straight through texas . And an ice plant. But we brought power to the people redefining what that meant from one era to the next. Over 90 years later we continue to build as one of the nations largest investors in infrastructure. We dont just help power the american dream. Were part of it. This is our era. This is Americas Energy era. 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We have the former governor of the state and former mayor of nashville is actually leading most polls against congresswoman marsha blackburn, shes associated with the tea party movement, shes very, very trumpian. But tennessee also has a history of electing business first moderates and thats what bredesen is, he has 100 name recognition, when he ran for governor, he won all 95 counties in the state. Hes a really popular guy there, its been a while but basically he wants us not to Pay Attention because the more people in tennessee the more they think that bredesen is the best candidate. Why can this be bigger deal than just one democratic seat . The implications of a bredesen victory here are unlikely. It would enable them to with stand the loss of one of their endangered incumbents elsewhere and still have a shot of winning the zmsenate. This this conservative state, republicans are arguing that a bredesen victory will put the party in control of the senate. And that cnn poll also has him at 50 . Once you start ticking at 50 and up, its very hard for the challenger to make up that ground, unless theres something thats going to explode, which is since this is a former governor and has run before. The other noteworthy thing, if he wins, hell be the oldest. The oldest freshman senator. Hes 75, since world war ii. Theres a lot going on. Tennessee has not elected a democratic senator since al gore. I think the interesting thing there, just to finish up, this is character race. This isnt a party race. This is about one who is extremely well known. One who is pretty well known although she only represents one congressional district. These are two people who the voters are familiar with and republican vs s have nowhere elo go to get votes except their old stable. Democrats have been able to bring out a lot more new voters. Thats one of the biggest concerns. This makes it more intriguing. Listen to this from new york magazine. Each individual senate race doesnt take place in a vacuum. One of my favorite phrases. If extraordinary democratic turn out theres a very good chance the same phenomenon will save hei heidi heikamp. Mansion, nelson, donnely, ted cruz. In these mid teterms its whs happening generally in response to trump. Thats whats going to happen in texas. Im with beto. And moderates are staying home. Republican women are staying home because theyre not engaged. To your point, if you have the democrat motivation out there and people not hes doing the putt, putt, buts. Its easy to miss the bigger picture. The fact were talking about a senate race in texas, tennessee, mississippi the country has a democratic senator in alabama. Were looking at states like north dakota that the president won by large margins and it looks like the democrats are in good shape, that means something massive happened. Thats why people dont feel crazy talk about texas. In looking at texas, senator cruz is up quite significantly in one poll, nine points. Another poll beto is up two points. Theres some wonder about whether thats the correct pool of voters to be polling right now. Thats where the democrat strength is now. Were polling likely voters but were seeing a stimulation of voters who arent likely voters who are coming out. Thats why the polls arent always right. We cant predict. I think thats what will happen in texas. I think the race will be so much closer. Modelling the races are extremely difficult from the polling point of view. Like i said, in the queens race with the upset there, his polling was right. If you went to who traditionally shows up. That was the game changer. Texas is, i think, whats interesting about texas is i dont think its going to go blue yet. I think whats really important is they keep running races. Democrats are putting up candidates that are personalities that are known to the constituents, in congressional races statewide and probably going to trend purple maybe in four to eight years. I wonder if were paying enough attention to arizona as well. I think every time i talk to folks, arizona is going to be a swing state. Hold on. Hold on. We got to go. Im sorry. We could have kept talking. Thank you very much. Thank you for talking so i didnt cough so much. I do appreciate that. Next up, a farewell to political cliches. Ooh, heaven is a place on earth uhp. I didnt believe it. Again. Ooh, baby, do you know what thats worth . I want to believe it. [ claps hands ] ooh im not hearing the confidence. Okay, hold the name your price tool. Power of options based on your budget and well make heaven a place on earth yeah oh, my angels ooh, heaven is a place on earth [ sobs quietly ] but prevagen helps your brain with an ingredient originally discovered. In jellyfish. 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