It is all over. Donald trump has won the title of king of the frivolous lawsuit. Mr. Trump is apparently very unhappy with a Television Ad were running. Be im very prochoice. If you want to file a lawsuit challenging this ad claiming it is deformation, file the lawsuit. I dont know that were doing to have a lawsuit, but we want to keep somebody honest. Because his position is anyone who points to his record is somehow lying. Cruz does lie. Ive never seen anything quite like it. Ted has proven that hes willing to do or say anything to get elected. If we elect marco rubio every day will be a great day in america. Jeb is a sad case. Its sad. There you go again. Its all decided. We dont have to go vote i guess. Its finished. I should stop campaigning. I hit jeb because hes easy to hit. Im not going to try to get in the mind of donald trump. This guy Lindsey Graham is one of the dumbest guy ive ever seen. We would get slaughtered if donald trump is our nominee and we would deserve it. The republican president ial campaign has a new frontrunner for most ridiculous lawyer in the world, jeffry l. Goldman actually wrote a letter to the cruz for President Campaign that begins with i am counsel to donald trump. The Cruz Campaign provided us with a copy of that letter and in it Donald Trumps lawyer complains about an attack ad and says the Cruz Campaign does not stop running that ad, quote, we will seek immediate legal action to prevent the continued broadcast of the attack ad and hold you jointly liable to the fullest extent of the law for any damages resulting there from and well look forward to doing it. Im sure by now like me youre all looking forward to seeing the attack ad that Donald Trumps lawyer says is the very definition of liable. Life, marriage, religious liberty, the second amendment, were just one Supreme Court justice away from losing them all. Would President Trump ban partial birth abortion . Im very prochoice. But you would not ban it . No, i am i am prochoice in every respect. We cannot trust donald trump with these serious decisions. Donald trumps lawyer must have over slept that day when they talked about liable law in law school. Ted cruz urged donald trump to file a deformation suit against him. If donald trump files the lawsuit that he threatens in this letter, that lawsuit will be frivolous and it will result in both donald trump and any lawyer that signs his name to the pleadings being sapgsed in court. Ted cruz is like so totally right about that and i dont think ive ever said that sentence before, but this time this time ted cruz is right. Ted cruz will keep running the ad and i will try to run the ad as much as i possibly can on this program and jeffry lrchl. Goldman will not dare to file a lawsuit against ted cruz or me because they definitely would be sanctioned. They definitely would be fined for filing the most frivolous lawsuit that donald trump has ever forced one of his lawyers to threaten in writing thereby making the trump lawyer the laughing stock of america. Tonight donald trump sounded as if he now realizes that ted cruz is a smarter lawyer than the guy donald trump is paying to write his phoney letters. I dont know that were going to street a lawsuit, but we want to keep somebody honest. When he makes statements like about im prolife and he said hes not, he cant say that. The worst news of the day for the Trump Campaign came in the latest poll of Republican Voters that shows donald trump in a tie within the margin of error with ted cruz who is at the top of that poll at 28 , donald trump at 26 nationally. Marco rubio 17 , john kasich 11 , jeb bush down at the bottom with 4 . Joining us now alex and joe joining us tonight from South Carolina. Alex, i dont know who your lawyer is i have a team of lawyers. I can tell you who it shouldnt be. That guy. That guy. Its just what was interesting in that interview as you point out is that donald trump seems to be walking away from the prospect and its maybe because hes realized that the longer donald trump talks about this ted cruz ad the more people go and google the ted cruz ad and look at the footage of donald trump speaking out a prochoice position on reproductive rights. I get to play it. When its necessarily that relevant you can keep playing it because its part of the part of trump is to keep launching these kind of sal vows thinking he has immunity. Maybe this is one where he doesnt. Here is the part where im cheering for trump to file the lawsuit because ted cruz said today what he would do if trump does actually file a lawsuit and we want this to happen, lets run this what ted cruz said he would do. One of the things i look forward to most of all is deposing donald trump. For that particular endeavor, i may well not use outside counsel, i may take the deposition myself. And i will say this, whether in a deposition or a court of law getting donald trump under oath under penalty of perjury answering these questions, ill point out it didnt work out very well for bill clinton. Joe, that deposition would be videotaped and im sure the Cruz Campaign would find a way to leak it in our direction or anyones direction. Were never going to see that because trump is going to back out of this, but how crazy is this playing in South Carolina that the republican frontrunner in that state threatening a lawsuit about a tv ad that everybody in South Carolina has seen, how are they reacting to this . Its kind of brilliant in its own way because were talking about this Utter Nonsense that is never going to happen and were not talked about the fact that the guy donald trump simply doesnt know anything about public policy. He is he has a terrible temperament to be a president. On issue after issue after issue he proved that he didnt know anything. Early today i saw him at another forum upstate and he was asked how he would strengthen the military, specifically . How specifically will you strengthen the military . Its going to be stronger than anything and he gets away with that crap. Tonight he shows he didnt know the difference between medicaid and medicare. Tonight he showed that he didnt know that the east asia trade deal doesnt include china, but it includes the other countries in the region that we want to strengthen against china. On issue after issue after issue the guy doesnt know anything and were letting him get away with it. That is a great point that trump talking about a lawsuit is better for trump than trying to actually talk about public policy, which ive said before hes an utter ignorant. Trump is playing to his base and his base is incredibly resilient. It doesnt matter to them and he knows that and his success in the media his success is predicated for their desire for him and as long as they desire him he continues to be a figure in the media and a major player on the national stage. It doesnt matter if the media tries to fact check him. None of it matters to the people who support him. I want to show an example of what you were talking about. This is donald trump saying absolutely nothing about health care in america, although he does string a few sentences together in this area. Lets listen to it. We cant let people die in the streets. We have to work out a deal with the hospital or somebody in that community where if somebody is sick and really sick and they dont have housing and they dont have we cant let them die. So all americans will get health care of some sort. We have to take care of them. Were going to take care of them. Its idiotsy. We have a program to take care of those people, medicaid. In the sentence before the one we saw he talked about medicare handling it. Medicare is health care for the elderly. Medicaid is health care for the indigent, obamacare is health care for the working poor. He has absolutely no idea that those three things are true and part of a significant part of American Public policy. If you look at the transcript of that interview, it is literally a string of extreme super lives. When he is pressed on any specific policy its its going to be the best because the other thing is the worst and thats enough to continue his role in this race. Joe, whats your assessment having watched more campaigns than any of us about how the media is doing in its job of handling the problem of dealing with donald trump . I think its a real embarrassme embarrassment. Its probably the most embarrassing coverage of a candidate that ive seen in my 11 got help me president ial campaigns. First of all, were watching him like crazy because he boosts ratings, second of all were not doing our job when he says Something Like people who are dying in the streets, nobody says to him, but wait a second, isnt there medicaid to take care of that . It really is malfeasance of the worst sort and i think in some cases it is its for most wrong reasons for ratings. I agree with joe that there should be a lot more push back and details asked for. If for example someone asked donald trump a follow up question that mattered im not sure it would make any difference to donald trump or the people that support him if he was wrong on that issue. We may never find out because that the phenomenon doesnt happen, he goes into a string of words that overwhelms the interviewers and they cant figure it out. You know what id like to see, id like to see people journalists ask him a question about something he actually knows about, which is reality tv. Mr. Trump, how do you think kim is handling her campaign her image these days and just to see whether hed actually answer it because or whether hed say thats not a question for a president. I think hed answer it. All right. Going to take a quick break here. Coming up a new National PollShows Hillary clinton and Bernie Sanders in a tie nationally and a poll of what the voters want the senate to do about president obamas next nomination to the Supreme Court. I take pictures of sunrises, but with my back pain i couldnt sleep and get up in time. Then i found aleve pm. Aleve pm is the only one to combine a safe sleep aid plus the 12 hour pain relieving strength of aleve. Im back. Aleve pm for a better am. Then your eyes may see it, differently. Ave allergies. Only flonase is approved to relieve both your itchy, watery eyes and congestion. No other nasal allergy spray can say that. Complete allergy relief or incomplete. Let your eyes decide. Flonase changes everything. 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Help me welcome the president of the United States, lets go to the polls on saturday and move that down the way. Marco rubio thats nikki haley giving the prized endorsement saying if we elect marco rubio, quote, every day will be a great day in america. Alex wagoner its a good thing she didnt oversell this rubio era where every day will be a great day. And recess will be an hour longer. President obama had a good point in his press conference which is that weve been paying so much attention to trump that we havent focus in had on the rest of the field. I think nikki haley is sort of belies that transformation too because she appears to be a moderate southern republican governor who is all about the establishment, but if you unpacked marco rubios comments and the positions hes staked out since this race began, hes very far away from nikki haley and what she represents. Will her endorsement matter . It may matter a little bit. A couple of points here in South Carolina, but i couldnt help thinking what a great ticket that would be a rubio, haley ticket especially because she is known now in minority communities across the country as the person who insisted on pulling down the confederate flag. Lets look at how donald trump is benefitting by having a big field, what happens to him if it goes down to a one on one fight for the nomination. Lets look at this poll. When is late in the latest poll nationally ted cruz versus donald trump ted cruz destroys him, 5640. Just wipes him out. If you put marco rubio one on one against donald trump, he wipes him out, 57 for marco rubio, 41 for donald trump. If you put jeb bush against donald trump, donald trump at the moment anyway comes out ahead of jeb bush, 5443. If you put donald trump with john kasich, he comes out ahead in this poll, 5244, but alex it shows you whats happening. This is the product of a field. Kasich is basically sort of seen as dead man walking. If he be can do that well, it might my sense is that the republican establishment, if they have power still within the part party, should train its sights to the establishment candidates and say we have to consolidate. We are at the crisis point. Kasich, you got to bow out. Cruz, marco, its two men enter one man leaves. Joe, could that happen . Well, the person im looking at right now is jeb bush. I mean that is the most interesting evolving story in South Carolina this week because ever since his brother came to town hes been looking kind of hang dog and saying things like maybe i should stop campaigning. He it really looks like he knows that the writing is on the wall. I think the kasich probably wants to stick around to play in michigan on the 8th and that will be his last stand on the 8th of march, but, boy, jeb bush came into this thing as the flatout favorite to win this nomination and i think the thing thats killing him that i hear from people is hes just one bush too many. And alex, the irony might be if the National Poll holds up and donald trump has hit something of a collapse in his numbers, it may be because of what he said in that debate, the post debate poll and it has donald trump talking about how george w. Bush lied us into war, that whole line of argument, it may be that the trump attack against bush ended up undoing trump. Maybe. I mean, i will say im shocked that it is donald trump that has brought the conversation to the Republican Party about the legacy of george w. Bush. I mean i do think that trump understands this in a way that everyone else doesnt and understands their frustration and their sense of if you tilt in terms of our engagement in the middle east and hes tapping into that. Whether the assertion that bush lied and people died, which has hurt on the far ends of the instruct rum, whether that proves a bridge too far remains to be seen, but there is a vein of frustration and failure that trump is tapping into that is still powerful in certain sectors of the republican base. Lets listen to what donald trump said about nikki haley tonight. You know, nikki haley gave a speech a couple of weeks ago and she said that we, we, yeah, its not good first of all, shes very weak on illegal immigration. Shes very weak on illegal immigration. You cant have that. Joe, nikki haleys approval number is Something Like 68 , but in a trump crowd she gets boos. I thought it was 80 . It could be. Shes really, really popular here. The thing about trump is this, its one of the most telling moments tonight was when she started listing a list of characteristics that a certain person had and it was clear to me and anybody who had a modest political i. Q. That she was describing Bernie Sanders and she then asked him who is this candidate that im describing and he said it sounds like donald trump. He didnt get it. I mean, this is a guy who does not exist outside of his own brain. And if nikki haley endorses another candidate, even though she has 80 approval, hes going go after her because that is the only thing he knows. Thank you both for joining me tonight. Up next, it is now a tie between Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders nationally. Thats next. Jake reese, day to feel alive jake reese, day to feel alive my man, lemme guess who youre wearing. Everyones lookin red carpet ready. Toenail fungus . Whaaat . . Fight it with jublia. Jublia is a prescription medicine. Used to treat toenail fungus. Use jublia as instructed by your doctor. Jublia is workin it most common side effects include. Ingrown toenail, application site redness,. Itching, swelling, burning. Or stinging, blisters, and pain. 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A new National Poll shows Bernie Sanders has closed the gap with Hillary Clinton. They are in a tie within the marnlen of era with Hillary Clinton at 44 and Bernie Sanders at 42 . This duplicated a result that a National Poll reported two weeks ago. Bernie sanders has also closed the gap with Hillary Clinton in nevada. Theyre tied within the margin of era with Hillary Clinton at 48 and Bernie Sanders with 47 . Hillary clinton is maintaining herb lead in most of the states that vote after nevada. Shes leading Bernie Sanders in ten of the 12 States Holding democratic prime areas march 1st through march 8th. Bernie sanders is ahead in vermont and massachusetts and theyre tied within the margin of era in oklahoma where Hillary Clinton has 46 to Bernie Sanders 42 . Joining us now columnist with the daily beast and political analyst and editor of the Washington Post and an msnbc contributor. Jonathan this came out a couple of weeks ago when we were in New Hampshire with this apparent national tie which was kind of shocking. Theyve now duplicated the results. This is starting to be real that were heading into a national tie with these candidates. I saw in New Hampshire the people who do this poll, its a very reputable poll. Theres a lot of polls out there that are crap. Its something that the Clinton Campaign has to take seriously. Two other things working in sanders behalf, one is momentum. Things are moving in the right direction for him. Hes picking up support and thats critical in politics especially in combination with the expectations game. So the expectations have gotten away from clinton, this firewall business about South Carolina and africanamerican voters has now kind of implanted itself in the metal alt of the people who follow politics. So if theres erosion, if she lets say she loses nevada and i think theres a decent chance that could happen, then lets say she wins South Carolina by a much smaller margin than expected, then she could have a rough time on super tuesday. Sam, the latest South Carolina poll Shows Hillary clinton 56 , Bernie Sanders at 38 . Thats a closing of what used to be a much bigger gap there. How is victory going to be described in South Carolina . What do the margins have to be . I have no idea. It depends it depends how it looks when it gets closer to it, but in addition to the expectations that jonathan was talking about which do matter in terms of gathering momentum and involves getting support from other officials, there is the question of delegates. This is ultimately a nomination thats decided at the convention by a delegate. All this can turn. You do have to wonder at what point does sanders make a significant make up a significant chunk of math that he needs to get the nomination. Hillary clinton will have a huge leg up because she has super delegates in her corner who are the Party Members who get a voting say in this, so there is that math mattics that works in her favor and still if you talk to most democratic operatives in this town still makes her the favorite. The thing about momentum is that if youre in the lead as Hillary Clinton has been, you want the vote today. You want because momentum the longer this goes on the more Bernie Sanders has a chance to make up ground and when you look at the giant delegate wins that exist in the california primary, the new jersey primary that dont happen until june, Bernie Sanders has all the time in the world to capture california. And the other thing is hes going to have money. Normally people drop out when they run out of cash and he has cracked the code as barack obama did on online fundraising. Hes matching her dollar for dollar and some states hes outspending her. In some states hes open more offices than Hillary Clinton. So i guess i would disagree with sam in that i think hillary is still the favorite. I certainly she was a probative favorite several months ago, certainly at the beginning of 2015, she was polling the way favorites do, way up in the 60s at least against anyone. Even in New Hampshire she was way up in the 60s, Bernie Sanders was at 13. That looked prohibitive, but time changes those numbers for her. The money thing cant cant be under stated here or overstated i should say. When he won in New Hampshire, one of the cleverer things he said is my opponent is going do a fundraiser in new york, i want do a fundraiser right now. Why dont you go online and donate 27. I believe in the next 24 hours they raised 6 million. Its not what barack obama did, but it was close do that. Hes ahead of obama. Im talking about in all of obamas campaigns i think his best day was 10 million. The biggest thing that sanders has going for him is that his donors have not tapped out. These are people that can still give more. He can sustain this and continue to grow. In talking to people in this town they are still confident in clinton. But the money is on her, whether theyre foolish or not who knows. Absolutely. When you look at those earlier voting states she still has the lead in most of those earlier voting states. Those are current polls. So the National Numbers not flug so strongly these states that are going to be voting soon. National numbers dont mean a lot right now and sanders has his own challenges. He has to broaden his message. He sounds like a broken record sometimes on these economic issues, which are very, very important, but not to the exconclusion of other things and he has to show more influence ensy on other things if hes going to turn this into a real contest. A quick break here. 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A new poll is saying what the voters want to hear. 81 of republicans say they want to leave the position vacant for the next president and 81 of democrats say they want the senate to act this year. Back with us, Jonathan Alter and sam stien. That looks like a plul standoff if youre actually thinking about is there a way to get someone confirmed, one of the names that started to flow a little bit in the last 24 hours is nevadas republican governor. Hes prochoice, jonathan. Hes 52 years old and if he was nominated what would happen . The first thing to understand is that barack obama got into National Politics wanting to see past party. We did a cover story on him in news week it was called seeing purple. That was his whole point at the 2004 convention. Its not crazy that he would nominate a certain kind of republican, especially if he found he was on the right side of Citizens United and some other key issues that are of importance like abortion. What it would do is you would already get one vote, dean heller, a republican senator. Hes indicated that he would support a nomination. You would only need three more to have a 50 50 tie which joe bidden would break to get the nominee confirmed, if you could get republicans to agree not to filibuster, but its more do able than it was 48 hours ago because the chairman has now indicated that he might likely hold hearings on the nominee. I think were missing a points here though. There is no way that any sane republican who has a hope of a future in the party would agree to be Barack ObamasSupreme Court nominee. Theres no quicker way to tar your reputation to do that. You could ask its a lifetime appointment. If he goes on the court, he doesnt have to worry about his political future. True. Thats true. Why would he do that . He wants a future in president ial politics. Its a pretty great job. But he does not have a future in president ial politics in his party because hes prochoice. Hes the president ial nominee. Hes prochoice. He doesnt have any future there. He cant. Lets talk about another interesting theory that was suggested today by my neighborhood newspaper in boston, and this is inspired by George Mitchell being on this program last night and talking about this very subject, and they suggested in an editorial today what about George Mitchell, hes 82 years old and in his editorial he says his credentials for the job are impeckable he could serve ably. He was offered the Supreme Court by bill clinton and turned it down and because of his age the next president would very likely have a chance to choose a successor to possible Justice Mitchell. What do you think . Well, you know, i agree that George Mitchell is one of the great americans of our time, he would have been an outstanding president of the United States, he would be great on the Supreme Court as a former judge, but this isnt going to happen because in the modern era president s dont nominate anybody over 60 really. But the theory of this is this is the point because hes 82 he will serve a few years and then retire and then youll have an opening. Why would you necessarily bet on there being a democratic president if youre barack obama, you want to get somebody through thats going to be on the court for a long time. But they would be doing here is saying in effect to the republicans, look, if you guys think youre going to win the white house next time you will have a chance to replace Justice Mitchell in this saet. Its a fairly grim deal theyre making is that George Mitchell will croak or step down. Most justices retire before that happens. Is he committed to retiring . Hed have to commit to retiring, right. Maybe. I think in this situation d my colleague is obama nominates himself and the reason it works out because if theres anything republicans want more than to not replace Supreme Court its to get obama out of the white house. Can i make the case for Loretta Lynch. I agree. I think a lot of people are getting this now, but obama got a huge percentage of the black vote in 2008 and 2012. Hillary is not likely to reach those levels. She needs he to get not just a Strong Majority of the black vote, she needs really big black turn out if shes going to win. She might not get it. If Loretta Lynch is essentially on the ballot with her, a face that everybody by that time knows that the republicans have been obstructsing, somebody who is clearly qualified to be on the Supreme Court, that will help her drive turn out in the 2016 election. 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He got donald trump to admit if he becomes president he not be all powerful. If it was the last year of your presidency and you had a vacancy to fill in the Supreme Court would you allow the senate to tell you not to do it. If i were president regardless much who that may be, i would put in a name but the senate has the right not do it, not to vote on it. So you would let someone tell you what to do . This is sounding less like donald trump every no, i would push. If i were the president i would be pushing and whether i was republican or democrat id be pushing, but the senate does have a lot of power over that. They have a right to do it. They have a pretty daunting right so it should not happen. It should be whoever the next president is should be the one that picks the next Supreme Court justice. Donald trump was never going to admit to his voters that the senate has a lot of power over the president , including veto power over anyone, over any position that requires senate confirmation, but he had to admit it because donald trump is following the Republican Party line that the Republican Senate should not confirm anyone president obama nominates for the Supreme Court. So donald trump has admitted that the United States senate has more power than the president of the United States in many situations, but he still refuses to admit that the president of the United States does not have complete power over the Mexican Senate and that he will have a problem convincing the Mexican Senate to pay for the trump wall on the mexican boarder. Coming up, as news week said seven years ago, we are all socialists now. S lloyd. To prove to you that the better choice for him is aleve. Hes agreed to give it up. Ok, but i have 30 acres to cover by sundown. 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Shes the author of several books and the mover behind the law that simplified voter registration. The president invited her to that bill signing ceremony. Here is she in 1980 with a debate with the leading republican economist of the era. The economic license of this to control property and those who control capital has been a threat to equality, but a threat to the people all over the world, not only in europe and in the United States, but in africa and asia and in latin america. Joining us now the professor who is also an honorary chair of the democratic socialists of america. Professor, thank you very much for joining us. Im so glad to be here. Ive just been imagining throughout this campaign what its been like for you to watch the rise of a candidate who is saying things that i could have imagined a candidate saying in the past, but not a competitive candidate, no the a candidate who is running up a very competitive for the nomination for the democratic president ial nomination. I think that democratic socialist is a very big term. People mean a lot of Different Things by it. You could also call Bernie Sanders a new deal democrat. Certainly. And you wouldnt be wrong. Right. So maybe hes not even a very left wing new deal democrat. But his bold and clear statement of his central policy commitments and they are they are left in american politics theyre left commitments, thats new. We havent heard that for a long time and i think people are just eating it up. Youve been studying voter behavior for a long time, written a couple of books about it, including how politicians have tried to suppress voter turn out in various ways, but the younger voter when you polled them on this word socialism it is not a bad word and polls always used to return socialism as just about the worst word you could associate with anyone. Thats the effect of a kind of National Culture of propaganda, flag waiving, but if you think about what socialism has meant and especially what democratic socialism has meant, it means that there should be democratic control over the main functions of the economy and that could happen in a variety of ways. It could be done by giving government larger responsibilities for production and distribution. It could be done by having workers self management. There are any number of ways in which we could democraticize the economy. I believe we need to do that however and so does Bernie Sanders, but not in radical ways. Hes not proposing to take over anything. Hes just proposing to redistribute the concentrated wealth that weve been producing in this society to make sure that everybody, young people have jobs, to make sure that people working have medical leave, that they can spend some time with their children to make sure they have health care. These are minimal things in rich industrial countries, everywhere except the United States. Is it that we needed 50 years of watching other rich industrial countries do this kind of thing successfully and not sink into economic despair . Well, i think it helps that we watched other countries do it, but we also have a tendsy to think that were extremely different, that we we have two legs and two arms and things like that, but thats Something Special about American Society. There isnt anything so exotic about American Society except that we treat ourselves diftd and we dont learn as much as we could from other countries. A little learning would be a good thing. Youve taught us all a great deal for many years. It is an honor to have you here tonight. Glad to speak with you. The msnbc town hall with donald trump is up next. I am going to be the greatest jobs president that msnbc presents an exclusive msnbc presents an exclusive town hall with donald trump. Here now are Joe Scarborough and mika brzezinski