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That does it for us tonight. Well see you again tomorrow. Now it is time for the last word with lawrence odonnell. And of course the lawyers letter to cnn for producing poll results that were similar to that. I think maybe even maybe two points more of a lead for joe biden. So rue bert mur dock i guess can await the lawyers letter from donald trump for this latest poll. Yeah. I have to say, when they sent that letter to cnn and then cnn made public its lawyers response, i was like, i have never wanted to be a lawyer, certainly not a corporate lawyer, but this day i was that cnn lawyer because that sounds like a fun day at work. Rachel, i was fascinated by your interview with attorney paul howard who has brought these charges in atlanta against the two Police Officers, and in this hour, were going to clear up this this semantic game actually thats being played by one of the defense lawyers who is trying to suggest that his client is not a socalled states witness. I thought that this attorney explained it perfectly well in your hour and well probably use some of what he said as we explain it here. There is really nothing here. This is really just a language that a lawyer is using to try to protect the image of his client at this point. Fascinating. I look forward to seeing it, my friend. Thank you. Thank you, rachel. Thank you. Well, the reading of the hugely important reading by the United States Supreme Court today blocking Donald Trumps attempt to end president obamas policy of allowing young, on documented immigrants to remain in this country and pursue their educations here and pursue their hopes and dreams here. They can sleep soundly tonight in this country. But for how long . Later in this hour, a decision that has infuriated the president. Donald trul wmp was so personal crushed by the decision that he tweeted, do you get the impression that the Supreme Court doesnt like me . And that wasnt the craziest or least president ial thing donald trump said today as he continues to lash out at his former National Security adviser john bolton who has revealed new descriptions of criminal conduct and impeachable conduct by the president. An example of just how crazy donald trump can sound when hes talking about john bolton appears in a wall street journal interview released today in which the president of the United States says, the only thing i liked about bolton was that everybody thought he was crazy. Now, there is the president of the United States in the middle of a Reelection Campaign telling American Voters that he likes to hire people that everybody thinks is crazy. That is one of the many reasons donald trump is trailing joe biden in every poll, including that important new fox news poll released tonight that rachel was just referring to showing joe biden with a 12 point lead over donald trump. Well take a closer look at that poll later in this hour. And well take a look at some of the craziest things donald trump has said today that continue to drive his poll numbers down. Well do that later in the hour. We are now just two months away from the scheduled Democratic National convention. We dont yet know what form that convention will take. But by the weekend before the convention, at the very latest, we will know who joe biden has chosen as his running mate for the office of Vice President of the United States. Our first guest tonight is one of the women senators possibly under consideration for the Vice President ial slot on the democratic ballot. But this week, senator Amy Klobuchar is working on Police Reform legislation as amember o committee which has jurisdiction over that legislation. Senator klobuchar participated in Tuesdays Senate committee he hearing, the First Committee in the history that was provoked by and concentrated on police use of deadly force. In that hearing we heard republican senators use condemning language about the conduct of the Police Officers in minneapolis who are charged with the murder of george floyd. Republican senators in the hearing agreed with democrats that they had to do something. But when the republican senator bill was unveiled this week, the republican position became, we have to recommend something. For example, the republican bill does not ban choke holds by police, but it encourages Police Departments to stop using choke holds. What prosecutors are now calling the Police Murder of Rayshard Brooks in atlanta this weekend has only increased the pressure for congressional action. The two officers accused in that case turned themselves in to authorities today. The now fired Police Officer Garrett Rolfe who shot Rayshard Brooks in the back twice will appear in Court Tomorrow at 12 00 noon. Officer bronsan was brooked this morning and released on bond. Officer bronsan appeared with his lawyer earlier today. But in the interview, officer bronsan refused to answer any questions about the incident. Im curious. And officer bronsan, thinking back to that night, are there things you wish were done differently and were handled differently . At this point in time, until i speak with the gdi, thats a conversation i want to have with them and any other parties that are investigating it. Took issue with paul howard saying that officer bronsan would be a witness for the state in the prosecution of Garrett Rolfe. Hes not cooperating against anybody. Hes going to provide Accurate Information about what happened. Hes going to describe whats in these videos in these body cams. Hes going to describe what he saw, what he heard during these events. You know, witnesses are witnesses. They dont belong to either party. They dont belong to the prosecution. He doesnt belong to the state, and hes not going to testify against someone. There is actually no legal disagreement between the District Attorney and officer bronsans defense lawyer on this. Although, the defense lawyer is trying to pretend that there is a disagreement. What the District Attorney said yesterday is that officer bronsan is fully cooperating with the District Attorney. Officer bronsan has already been interviewed more than once by the District Attorney before he was even charged. They have recorded every word he has said to the District Attorney. And what the District Attorney meant are referring to officer bronsan as a states witness is that the District Attorney intends to call Devin Bronsan as a witness in the case, and the reason the District Attorney is going to call him as a witness in the case is that the District Attorney believes that what officer bronsan has already told the District Attorney will help convict Garrett Rolfe in court. It is as simple as that. But Devin Bronsan is still a Police Officer and presumably hopes to continue being a Police Officer if he can survive this case. And Devin Bronsans defense lawyer is playing games to obscure the fact that the District Attorney believes that Devin Bronsan has already been and will continue to be a helpful witness for the prosecution in this case. Joining our discussion now from minneapolis is senior senator from minnesota Amy Klobuchar. Senator, thank you very much for joining us tonight. Thank you. And can i borrow your expertise as a former District Attorney yourself to just referee this little distinction here where a District Attorney stands up and refers to a witness as being a states witness by which he intends to call the witness, and then the Police Officers lawyer says hes not going to be a witness for or against anyone, which is true of any witness. Thats the textbook definition of witness. And it seeps like hes trying to get him out of the image of basically turning against the other Police Officer. Is that your sense of what were watching here . It appears thats what happens. But i go back to the District Attorneys words and that is that a witness is a witness. They have to tell the truth. They are under oath. Whatever the testimony is, it is. And clearly the District Attorney believes that this system will be helpful and will get at the truth. What we all saw on that video. And i think one of the things i found interesting in listening to that discussion, lawrence, is that one of the things we want to break down here is this culture. There are a lot of good cops out there. And i think we all know them. And they are brought down by this kind of behavior where you have people like what happened in my state with the murder of george floyd, when you have Police Officers that are basically on video committing murder. And that is why were working so hard right now to get this bill passed that would basically put standards in place that good Police Officers will meet to ban choke holds, to have accountability and transparency so we know what peoples records are, if there is misconduct, so they cant go from one Police Department to another. And i think you know people are crying out for this change right now, and this is our moment to make that change. Senator, there is a big gap between the republican legislation that was introduced in the senate this week and the legislation thats being moved by the democrats in the house of representatives, which would be close to what the Senate Democrats want. Is this one of those instances where you just in the end you vote for the bill on the senate floor to get into a conference with the house so that you then can try to work out a final bill in compromise with the house of representatives . You know, i think it is way too soon to talk about what procedure is being used, but we cant just have a bill that does nothing. I think that has happened too many times where people are just voicing platitudes and saying, oh, we want to make this better and they never really do. People are not going to tolerate that anymore. Democrats, republicans. And i just think donald trump is so out of touch as are some of our republican colleagues on this. If they dont see that this is a moment to save police and the community by making these sensible reforms, and i just dont think that we can sell out for nothing here. Weve got to have substantial reform. And it can happen at the local and state level, but it can really happen at the federal level. Anyone that watched that videotape and saw George Floyds life evaporate before our eyes really understands that if we answer this with silence, we are complicit. If we answer it with what the president s call dominance as they waive the bible for a photo op in front of that church, then were monsters. But if we answer it with action as i told my colleagues on the floor yesterday, if we answer it with action, then were lawmakers and thats what we were sent to washington to do. Senator klobuchar, what is the future of this issue in the democratic president ial campaign . Do you expect it to be a front and center issue in the president ial campaign . Well, of course it will be. But i think one of the things that you have seen is this is part of a larger issue with this president. His reaction today on the historic ruling for dreamers, people arent against dreamers. Theyre just not against them but donald trump certainly is. People who know no other country but america, people who have gone to school here, who work here, who have jobs here, and he spends his day tweeting out against personal grievances against the Supreme Court, a conservative Supreme Court where Justice Roberts has to step in and say what the president did was basically wrong and that we need to have we need to have a process that works for the dreamers. So i just think this is part of what you have seen over and over again where when you talk about the president ial campaign, you are going to have joe biden, who is someone who is competent, when you look at whats happened with the pandemic and how the president failed to get ahead of it and now were seeing in this forthcoming book by mr. Bolton that this was a president that actually reached out to the president of china to ask for help in his Reelection Campaigns with the fact that he was not tough enough on china when this started. He didnt get ahead of this. He wasnt age to get the vaccine going like we should have or the protective equipment out. And then you have joe biden who helped and led the way to manage the ebola pandemic as someone who made sure that the money got out there in the right way when we had the last downturn. Its going to be a complete contrast in this president ial Campaign Including of course on the issue of race. Senator, were probably seven or eight weeks away from joe biden making a choice for the Vice President ial slot. Should joe biden return to minnesota as democrats have in the past, choosing democratic senator humphrey, then walter mondel for Vice President . What case would you make at this point in the campaign for senior senator from minnesota as the Vice President ial candidate . You know, lawrence, i have never, as you know in many shows, since i endorsed the Vice President , i have never commented on this process at all. But let me tell you this. After what i have seen in my state, what i have seen across the country, this is a historic moment and america must seize on this moment. And i truly believe as i actually told the Vice President last night when i called him that i think this is a moment to put a woman of color on that ticket. And there is so many incredibly qualified women. Right now my party, yes, but our nation, this is sure a hell of a way to do it. And thats just what i think. Senator klobuchar, were now three weeks since the murder of george floyd in minneapolis in your state. Clearly you have been going through a lot of thinking about what that means in terms of your responsibilities as a senator, what it means to your state. How much has that influenced and how much of these last few weeks influenced what you have just told us that you want to withdraw. And apparently youre saying you told Vice President biden last night that you want to withdraw from consideration as a possible Vice President ial candidate. I did, and he was kind. By the way, i thought if i talked to him, i thought it would be nice to have a kind president in the white house. But for me i have to, one, help my state to heal. This was a huge tragedy in my state, and i have a lot of work to do. Tomorrow morning im meeting with our africanamerican ministers about Voting Rights and the bill that im leading on that in the senate. Im in a unique position as a Senior Member of the Judiciary Committee to help usher this pl Police Reform through and work with my state. As i sat adt George Floyds memorial, yes, i came to this conclusion. And i think it would be taking what has been a tragedy, but yet this moment of galvanizing force across this country and taking it and unifying our country but also doing it in a joyful way, by putting someone of color on this ticket. And you think about the past. You think about with juneteenth coming up tomorrow. You think about the past with slavery. You think about the fact that in todays world africanamerican women can still go into a Maternity Ward in new orleans and say our hands are swollen and no one listens and she loses her baby. You think of the immigrant people that have been working on those front lines in the hospitals and at the Grocery Stores and driving those busses and how they have been overwhelmingly hit by the pandemic. These are things that have been magfied that have always existed in such a big way. One way you get at it and seize this historical moment and turn what has been probably the most difficult year in our countrys history since, i dont know, world war ii, if you take it and you put that into something that would be of such joy with so many of my friends and colleagues that would be qualified for this job. I think you could make Something Like we have never seen and show the world what america is all about. Senator klobuchar, you are giving us the positive case for a woman of color on the ticket. But as you considered your own prospects in the last few weeks, did you have concerns about your own record as a prosecutor in minneapolis and how that might be dragged into the campaign and into the possible how you could function as a Vice President ial candidate . I think i could have functioned fine and there is a lot of untruths out there about my record. And now is not the time to debate those. Some things that have been put out on there through the internet. Thats just what life is in politics. But i dont think we should be taking this moment to have those kind of political fights. I think what this moment should be about is uniting our country and bringing us together. And i will do everything. And my resolve has not changed in any way to help joe biden get elected because i just think the world will be a new one for our country when he is president , and we have so much we need to do, including things we have talked about, you and i, Climate Change and finally doing something about the minimum wage and workers and getting this from day one having a president thats going to take his first 100 days. And i have a bunch of ideas for them on that and what he can do in those first 100 days to get at this pandemic and to take it on in an honest and real way for the people of this country. Senator clo, we all watched the night when you decided to drop out of the race for the presidency and endorsed joe biden, and you did it with that humphreylike happy warrior approach that youre bringing tonight. Its been fascinating to watch as you leave this race that you find youre delivering this positive message about what can happen with you out of the race, and that seems to be similar to what were hearing tonight. This is the end of the road tonight for you on this program for the Amy Klobuchar quest for the white house in terms of a Vice President ial office there. Its not the end of the road for me, man. Ive got a lot of things i want to do. Im just talking about the white house. Go ahead. Sorry. Yes, okay. So, you know, you make these decisions, and youve got to decide, as our friend, my friend, john mccain, always said. There is nothing more liberating than a cause larger than yourself. This cause of making sure we have a decent person in the white house in joe biden, thats my cause. Making sure that we finally do something where we are on track to get the vaccines out, do everything in the right way for this country, that we have economic fairness in this country, that we get our economy moving again, all of that to me, why am i smiling . That is exciting to get at that. The fact that we have people supporting Police Reform, Police Chiefs across the country, officers in my own state, people who were horrified when they watched that video and theyre translating that horror into action, into voting in november but also action right now. To me, out of that tragedy comes a moment, a historic moment for our country and out of that comes joy. So if you are asking me why im the happy warrior here, lawrence, is because i see this future we can have of the country and i see how we can get there. Senator, thank you very much for joining us tonight. Thank you for sharing that news with us. Im sure its going to change the political dynamic for the next 24 hours, at least, talking about this subject. Really appreciate it. Thank you, senator. Thank you, lawrence. Return now to discuss what we just heard from senator proge programming at sirius xm radio. The end of white politics, how toend our liberal divide. Both are msnbc political analysts and both are rushing on to this program ahead of schedule because of the breaking news that we just heard from senator Amy Klobuchar who Just Announced on this program that she called joe biden last night to withdraw from consideration as the possible Vice President ial nominee on the biden ticket. Your reaction to Amy Klobuchar now saying the Vice President ial nominee should be a woman of color . Well, i agree with senator Amy Klobuchar, and i think that she, like so many of us on the left, are looking at the democratic electorate of the future, and were looking at the where the energy is and where it was lacking in 2016, frankly. And when you are looking at the data, what you see is very, very clear. You need somebody on this ticket who can excite young people of color. Particularly women of color. And if you were able to do that, if you were able to message directly to those communities, and i think that a woman of color will be able to do that based not on diversity being a pretty picture because of her lived experience and perspective on policies. So if you go after that one million black people that did not vote that voted for obama and you go after the four million larger part of the e lo that stayed home. We focus on the voters that went from obama to donald trump. But we failed to think about and really think through how to reach those voters who clipped from barack obama to staying at home. So i think senator klobuchar like so many of us has come to the conclusion that who joe biden needs is a woman of color. I specifically think it should be a black woman. I wish i could read to you this passage in my book about the 1968 election, which had a very similar moment to this, a dramatic moment where lbj was actually considering two senators. Both of the senators from minnesota as his possible Vice President. And jim mccarthy got kind of angry about the competition and just bit early, publically dropped out of it in a way that shocked lbj and ruined his relationship even before mccarthy turned against the vietnam war. But here is Amy Klobuchar basically going the Gene Mccarthy move, which is withdrawing, but doing it with the humphrey happy warrior approach to it and seeing the potential excitement for the ticket to have a woman of color on the ticket. Right. I think its important that she did that. I thought the words that she that she said, that she used were right and fitting and terrific, quite frankly. I dont disagree with anything that ms. Maxwell said because she is 100 right. What i think the reason why senator klobuchar had no choice but to do this was because of the headwinds that she was facing in terms of being considered to be Vice President bidens Vice President ial running mate. Minneapolis has seen demonstrations since george floyd was killed on memorial day. She was the former prosecutor, attorney, the cop who killed george floyd was a cop when she was there, had complaints against him when she was there. She was already being hit with questions about her tenure. Those were the sorts of headwinds that she was facing just on the case of george floyd. But then that got to the larger issue that she had, and that was her standing with africanAmerican Voters. I have always argued that no one in the democratic race was going to have a chance with africanAmerican Voters as long as joe biden was in the race, but Amy Klobuchar had an especially hard time, particularly because she didnt really make an overt effort to go after that vote. And, so, you know, coming out of super tuesday where she barely had any standing in South Carolina where the vote was overwhelmingly african, she was going into the Vice President ial sweepstakes with a big head wind against her. Then george floyd was killed, and it was virtually impossible, i think, for her to be considered to be joe bidens running mate. But the fact that a lot of people thought that she should be considered, that she was number one in a lot of peoples minds for a very long time, the fact that she has probably come out and said shes not in it and she thinks a woman of color should be the one picked actually should carry a lot of sway. Lets listen to what joe biden said to me back in march. This was the day before the michigan primary. I interviewed him in michigan about the Vice President ial choice. Lets listen to what he said about that then. In your experience, and i mean your lifetime of political experience and watching this choice made, a running mate, do you think that its important that it will someone who actually has been tested on that president ial debate stage the way i assume barack obama thought it was very important that his Vice President ial candidate had already been tested at that level, as you were standing beside him on the debate stage. I think thats a very important factor. Very important factor. Yes, okay. By the way, there is a number of women as well tested in other ways, not on the debate stage but in their debates in their states and being national figures. But, yes, i think thats an important factor. There is joe biden saying its a very important factor that the Vice President ial nominee has already been tested at the president ial debate stage level. That sure gives a big advantage to senator kamala harris. Yeah. I do think that that particular fit there does give an advantage to senator kamala harris. And i do think that one of the things that people look at differently now in the context of the race for Vice President is the first democratic primary debate where she stood up to him on the issue of bussing. Now, the merits of the debate and sort of the contents of what they were debating in that moment, people really dont forget that. But what they remember is when she stood up to him and said that little girl was me. That was a moment that even though her campaign did not go the full distance, people respected the fact that she stood up to the front runner. And he was, you know, the front runner most of the primary until sort of the bernie surge in the late stages there. So at the time, think about how much it took to debate as if you unafraid to stand up to a former Vice President and the front runner. So i think that puts her ahead. But i also dont want to dismiss folks that werent on that stage like Stacey Abrams from georgia because a lot of folks, you know, jump forward and say, you know, this person doesnt have enough experience. That person has the more specific experience that were looking for in a Vice President. But i just want to remind everybody that donald trump is the president. And so i dont know why we are talking about black people being in positions of power when we havent done that on the other side. Currently donald trump is the president during a Global Pandemic where he has previously told people to inject disinfectant. Im certainly not going to do a serious game of analysis about whether or not Stacey Abrams is more competent than that person. I just want to say that all of the women that he has to choose from are equally valuable and equitable in terms of able to be in that position. Thank you for jumping in and covering this breaking news with us. We really appreciate it. 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Donald trump tweeted, these horrible and politically charged decisions coming out of the Supreme Court are shotgun blasts into the face of people that are proud to call themselves republicans or conservatives. We need more justices or we will lose our Second Amendment and everything else. Joins us now is the former acting solicitor general who has argued dozens of cases before the United States Supreme Court. Neil, youre reading of this decision today . So some Supreme Court decisions are abstract, lawrence. This isnt. This involves the lives of almost 800,000 people in america right now. It is a major decision allowing them to stay in this country and stop donald trump from doing what he wanted to do, which was try and remove them. Basically, president s have always had discretion to inforce laws. What president obama did in 2012 is he said these socalled dreamers should be able to stay, that he was going to exercise his discretion not to throw the book and inforce the immigration rules on these children that came here through no fault of their own. What trump did is rescind that and ordered them to end the daca program. Then he sent in the solicitor general to defend that in the Supreme Court. What happened today is he lost and lost big. That is in the Supreme Court, an opinion by the chief justice who is a president bush appointee, so no liberal, the president acted capriciously. He just didnt buy the reasons that trump gave for it, which after all stunk to high heaven. And does the opinion the Trump Administration how to do this a legal way that will survive at the Supreme Court . No. I mean, i think what the challenge is they just said narrowly, were bringing a limited challenge that basically is about this president doing it in this way, and they said, look, you dont have to get into if there is some other way to do it or Something Like that. And the court basically today didnt get into that either. So, yes, lawrence, i take your question to be can President Trump or some future president figure out a way to end daca . And i think the Supreme Court is saying, maybe its possible. Were not answering that question right now. But here this president botched it so badly that they had to strike it down. Thats a really remarkable thing. I had the privilege of defending the federal government in the Supreme Court for a number of years. You really have to try and lose your case if you are defending the federal government. The president has so much deference in this space. But this president was so incompetent that the Supreme Court said, you cant do this. 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Although, it may be politically favorable to the president in many kways. The president tweets, do you get the impression the Supreme Court doesnt like me. And then he tweets, these horrible and decisions, he says, they are shotgun blasts, these decisions, into the face of people who are proud to call themselves republicans. And then he says we need more justices or well lose our Second Amendment voters care about. You worked in the Supreme Court. You were a Supreme Court clerk. You have some feeling for life there in those chambers and how calm it usually is and deliberative. You certainly never saw any communication from a president like that hit the Supreme Court when you were a clerk there. Absolutely, i did. And, look, you know, i have had the privilege of arguing 41 cases there, and i have represented everyone from president s to guantanamo detainees to big corporations, the reality is every single time theyre trying to do the job based on the law. They certainly dont do what donald trump is accusing them of doing, of ruling against someone because they dont like them personally or Something Like that. That is absurd. Its an insult to our proud Supreme Court. When they put those black robes on, they act like justices and sometimes i will lose cases and be very upset, as will my clients. But i have never heard any one of them say anything like this. I think all of your viewers should look at those tweets from the president and think about it because on the one side of america you have got one branch of government, the Supreme Court, as recent decisions as the one today, scholarly. You can disagree with is or whatever, but it is on the up and up. On the other, you have the president of the United States, an accusatory person who is going and insinuating these things about our highest court. It is a sad, sad day. I think we should celebrate what madison and hamilton left us in the form of the Supreme Court and celebrate our justices for doing Something Like today or the ruling on monday for lgbtq quality, which included one of the Donald Trumps own appointees to the Supreme Court, neil gorsuch who wrote the opinion. I dont see how that is. I mean, the president has been incapable of implementing his agenda in every way, shape and form and todatodays decision i another example of it. The politics of it are that most republicans actually favor allowing the dreamers to stay and pursue their dreams. So donald trump gets to play the tough guy in relation to them but in fact doesnt have to actually be the tough guy. The Supreme Court has gotten that out of the way for him. But do you think, neil, there are republican appointed justices in that court who, when they are considering joining the democratic appointed judges on the court in an opinion worry about what the trump tweet will say about them . No, not at all. Zero. I mean, thats the beauty of article 3. I certainly see that in the Senate Republicans who seem afraid of even Donald Trumps slightest, you know, accusatory statement of Something Like that. But the Supreme Court, no. I think these folks are doing their job and their duty. Sometimes i have to disagree with them vehemently. But they are not thinking about it in political terms. I think thats the ultimate lesson of todays decision, is we are a country of laws. What that means is that the president doesnt get to do whatever he wants, which is the way hes been acting for three years. And, you know, this really does indicate americas checks and balances. Neil, thank you very much for joining us tonight. We really appreciate it. After this break, coronavirus cases hit a record high today in some places, but the republican governor of arizona is not requiring masks. Mayors in arizona are taking safety into their own hands. 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Arizona, florida, and texas have reported recordhigh singleday increases in the number of confirmed coronavirus cases. Those states have now set and broken their own singleday records of new coronavirus cases in the last 48 hours. Today arizona announced 2,519 new cases. Thats up from 2,392 cases on tuesday. Florida set its singleday high today with 3,207 new cases. Thats up from 2,783 cases on tuesday. And texas reported 3,516 new cases. Thats up from 3,129 on wednesday. Despite an increase in infections, arizonas republican governor doug ducey has not issued a statewide mandate on masks. Instead, hes living that decision up to local mayors. In the United States as of tonight, there are 2,198,360 confirmed cases of coronavirus. And as of tonight, this country has suffered 119,002 deaths from coronavirus. Joining our discussion now is the mayor of tucson, arizona, Regina Romero. Thank you very much for joining us tonight. What is the situation on masks in your city . Its up to you to make your own decision. What have you decided . Well, good evening, lawrence, and thank you for having me on your show. I am a big fan. I signed my emergency proclamation at 2 00 p. M. Today, and the reason that i had not been able to sign to make masks mandatory in our city was because governor ducey, in his emergency in his executive order, preempted cities, towns, and counties in arizona from taking steps further than what his executive order directed us to do. So it took some pressure from doctors. More than 1,000 doctors signed letters asking the governor to make masks mandatory. Ive been working on meeting and calling the governor for a couple of weeks now to ask him to untie our hands as mayors of the cities of arizona. And just up until yesterday did we hear from the governor that he would untie our hands and let cities, towns, and counties pass their own mandatory mask ordinances. Your city is the second largest city in the state. Over half a million people. Your metropolitan area, about a million people. What has the mask behavior been up to now in tucson . People are generally following Wearing Masks here in tucson, arizona. I think that our residents are very aware of the crisis and the emergency thats happening in our state. The problem is that since governor ducey really let his executive order expire and opened up the economy and businesses here in arizona, people started to lax and congregate. And so thats when Public Health experts have pretty much linked the opening of the state to what the surgence in cases that we see here in arizona. Its completely linked to the reopening of the state, and so were very concerned. Its very alarming, and what i had been asking the governor was that he institute a mandatory face mask or untie the hands of mayors so that we could make our own decisions. The mayors, as you well know, are the front line of government, and we know our communities. We know what the needs are and whats happening here. As you well said, there was 2,400 cases just on tuesday. Today we reported 2,500 cases throughout the state. Here in the city of tucson, we had before the governor reopened the state, we were seeing 24 cases, 25 cases, sometimes in the teens as soon as he reopened the state. Now, just yesterday, we had 325 new cases just in pima county alone. Its very alarming, especially because our hospitals are beginning to get overwhelmed, and every day that we waited for the governor to make a decision on this, we saw thousands of new cases in our state. Mayor romero, i want to get a quick last word from you about the Supreme Courts daca decision today and whatect that will have in your community. Were very happy here in arizona for the result of what the Supreme Court in this case really handed to us. There are thousands and thousands of documented students in arizona. We took to the streets when President Trump was trying to undo daca, and so here in arizona, we have highly productive young people that contribute to our economy, love this country. This country is the only country they love and pledge to, and so were very, very happy. We see lots of celebration here, so its a good thing. Its good news here in arizona. Tucson mayor Regina Romero gets tonights last word. Thank you very much for joining us tonight, mayor. Thank you, lawrence. The 11th hour with Brian Williams starts now. Good evening once again. Day 1,246 of the Trump Administration. 138 days to go until the president ial election. And donald trump is about to relaunch his campaign for reelection on the defensive by presiding in the covid19 era over an event that defines a Public Health risk. More on that later. The nation of course still in the grips of a pandemic. A former white house official is telling highly unflattering tales about his former