Fabulously corrupt convicted republican super lobbyist, jack abram off. He alsoer represented john edwards quhefs charged with illegal i using Campaign Contributions to pay for the Living Expenses for his secret second family that nobody knew about. Abby lowell has been the defense lawyer, he has been the defense lawyer in the middle of taunl of lurish d political scandals. Jim wright who was the first speaker of the house to ever resign in scandal, he had he abby lowell as his lawyer. And the man who went straight from being the cheryl of the ways and Means Committee to serving 17 months this federal prison, abby lowell was his lawyer. And now hell be the defense lawyer for Jared Kushner too. Mr. Kushner is keeping his existing lawyer, another washington alister. But in addition, he is now adding abby lowell which means like mike pence, president ial Senior Adviser and president ial soninlaw and de facto crown prince of the trump administration, Jared Kushner and mike pence now both have better legal representation in this matter than the president does. And i dont mean to be weird about this but to face this scandal, to mount a personal defense, the president himself has hired this guy. Like handled some of his divorce stuff. He hired a lawyer who mostly does religious right televangelist stuff and he hired this guy. Youre going to want to watch this next piece of video that we have. He is out on bail after being convicted of all 14 counts of couldnt spearcy and fraud. His attorney has promised to appeal those convictions. This is the video that i was talking about. Cnbc caught up with mr. Dowd a short time ago. Thats what i got for cnbc. Wow thats what i got for cnbc. Cnbc. Doesnt usually have to blur hand gestures. It is like business stuff. You know what i mean . But the president has hired this star wars bar scene legal team to mount his own defense in the russia scandal. And that is fine. Thats his prerogative. He gets to do it however he wants to do it. It is worth noting that now this contrast, his Vice President , mike pence, and his soninlaw Jared Kushner, in contrast to what hes done, theyve hired real big name lawyers with tons of experience in big name political scandals. Mike pence hired richard cullen. Jared kushner just hired abby lowell. Well have more coming up in a couple minutes about why Jared Kushner may be feeling the need to add such an alist lawyer to his personal pay roll. There are two things have just come up that may explain the sense of urgency with his legal team and hiring one of the most famous criminal defensor attorneys in the country. So well get to that in a couple minutes. I want to start with this airplane with a banner which was seen today flying high over, well, flying high, well above what typically counts as american politics. The plane is on the left side of the screen. The banner is on the lower right. Can we zoom in so you can see what it says . Senator heller, keep your word, vote no on trump care. The only problem with this high flying message is that although this message targets senator dean heller of nevada, this banner actually flew today over charleston, West Virginia. Which i think was just a screw up. I think this is also a heads up to the people of nevada that somewhere above reno or las vegas, youre probably about to start seeing a plane flying a banner for somebody named senator, that was meant for virginia. Theyre probably going to have to swap their biplane banners. The senator did get wrong banner for the wrong senator flying over her office in charleston today. But the senator got a lot of people on the ground in exactly the right place. Her constituents coming to her office in charston including a half dozen residents who not only came to the office but they came inside the office and they said they would stay in there. They would sit in in an act of peaceful civil disobedience. They pledged to state until she pledged to vote no on the Republican Health care bill. They said they would stay until she voted no or until they get arrested. Whichever came first. And this afternoon they got arrested. Six of them were arrested at senator capittos office. She is one of the republican senators who might vote no on this bill. The high number of people in her state that would be expected to lose all Health Care Coverage and have no fopgss this bill becomes law. She has not said anything about how she is going to vote on it. You can see the arrests today. You can see the people at her office today. Watch this. I want you to see a picture of somebody, a face. Thats my daughter. Okay. Okay. She is beautiful. She doesnt take after her mom. Thats okay. I want you to see her in treatment. How old is she . 41 years old. Shes been fighting this cancer. Whats her name . Aily elizabeth stills. Shes been fighting this cancer for four years. Very diligently. She has maintained her jobs. Shes gotten promotions. Has led teams. As sick as she has been. She would not be alive today if it wasnt for the aca. Is she on medicaid . No. Shes working. With her job. But if she ever lost her insurance, in seven months, she went over he 1. 2 million. And this has been going on for four years. Preexisting condition . And were not sure how long shell be able to work. Maybe forever. Thats what our goal is. But these are real people. My daughter. So i want you to have that in your brain. Look at this. I understand pressure. I understand what, no, i dont. I want to you stand up against this immoral bill. Senator shelly moore capito, one of those votes who will be a make or break vote. S the Congressional Budget Office today put out its new score of what the bill will do. That scoring projects if the republicans are able to pass this thing, it will kick 22 million americans off of Health Insurance. Before todays score, nevada senator dean hell her already, in fact, said he was a no vote on the bill. After the score came out today, senator sues an collins of maine said she too will be a no vote on the bill. Thats two. Thats all the no votes republicans can spare. If they get to three, if just one more republican senator decides to vote no, this thing will be over. Senate democrats tonight are once again holding the floor of the United States senate. Theyll be holding the floor of the senate indefinitely tonight. Theyve been there already several hours. Theyre trying to rally more no votes against it. The democrats takeover of the senate floor tonight was led by the hawaii senator who will be leaving the senate tomorrow to undergo a second round of surgery to fight Kidney Cancer which she was just diagnosed with. So tomorrow, she will have lesion her rib removed in conjunction her cancer treatment. But tonight she is leading the senate. In this effort to try to save the Affordable Care act. But you know, no matter how dramatic things get in this fight on this issue in washington, d. C. , the real poet end politics of this have been shaped not in d. C. Theyve been shaped at home, in the home states of all these people. Every time they show up in their home districts is that ho, in tr home states. If you want to travel fast, if you want to travel far, go together. We are going to make the changes, we are going to fast bill and we are going to repeal obamacare. That was not the response that texas congressman Pete Sessions wanted to get from a room full of his constituents there. Thats what it has been like. Theyve been getting an earful from town halls. It is also involved these organic Grassroots Group that was sprung up all over the country in every Congressional District in the country. Indivisible movement, holding rallies at lawmaker offices. Demanding that their representative dozen town hall events and meet with their constituents and explain their votes. Sometimes it has involved creative prospects. This was a very good one. Each of these balloons delivered to new Jersey Republican congressman tom mcmccartkar mac office, each one representing 1,000 people who would lose coverage as a result of his vote for the bill that he helped pass in the house. You will notice the balloons are themselves filled with confetti which creates quite conundrum in terms of what do you with all those balloons once you get them in the office. The activism has been tremendous in the home states and home districts of representatives from before the inauguration. The first moments people are organizing to see if the republicans would do what they said they would do. It has involved a lot of meetings with the staffers. It involves not listening to the staffers when they try play indicate the crowds. They found that out the hard way. A constituent event in february where you can tell, they were not prepared. We need help with medicare and social security. So many of you have already sign up on our signup sheet. If you have not, this is how well be calling folks back in to discuss matters. Huge constituent crowds were a staple of life for republican lawmakers whenever they went back home this spring. Now were seeing the protests which never really went away. Now were seeing them spring up with a new sense of urgency in response to the bill that is pending in the senate. In asheville, north carolina, hundreds of people gathered to protest the new senate bill. They got it at the vance memorial in asheville. Nose attendance said the rally was aimed at the he 22 Million People who could Lose Health Care coverage if this bill becomes law. Protesters show up outside the offices in florida. 100 or so demonstrators showed up outside marco rubios office to channel vote no, marco, vote no, marco. The protesters stage ad diein, a technique from the aids activist movement which started in this country in the late 1980s. People lying down to represent people who they believe will be killed as a result of this legislation. If you can hear what theyre saying there, theyre saying marco polio, a rif on both marco rubio and marco polo. In charleston, protesters rallied in senator Shelley Capitos office to make their message heard. If this bill passes, if senator capito does not vote no, 170,000 West Virginians will be losing their health care. Over 25,000 West Virginians will not be able to get drug treatment. Senator capito certainly knows that. To protect West Virginians, we need to vote no. To protect our whole nation. 22 Million People who Lose Health Care if this is not voted no. Were showing any ounce of courage today, it is to inspire senator capito to show that same amount of courage in this odd state of politics where defending the health care of 22 Million People requires courage. It should be common sense. Senator Shelley Moore capito. That was her district nofs charleston, West Virginia today. She is one of the republican senators who appears to be on the fence in this bill. It is down to one vote right now as to whether or not this will pass. If it does pass, the cbo projects will result in 22 million americans not the just losing the Health Insurance that theyre on but altogether lflt protests through the spring like we can continue to see today affect the way this vote ultimately goes. Joining us, the coexecutive director, one of the architects of the protests against these efforts to repeal the Affordable Care act. Thank you for being here. A lot has changed since we first talked with you about this Little Movement seemed to be springing forth out of nowhere. Im surprised as you are. We have an average of 13 groups in each district. 13 . 13 and this is not just an east coast thing or a west coast thing. This is indivisible alabama, in tennessee, there are groups in maine that spent last week going to every single Congressional District office that Susan Collins had. They only had five of the six covered. So one of the groups drove four hours to drive to the caribou office. They did a sitin there. Drove back the next four hours. Then they went to their weekly indiiesible meeting to do more. She announced this. This is working because people are standing up. When we look at the short history, the group that you have been part of and you helped start as a staffer, the growth of your organization and the visibility of the protests is something that is remarkable and it is easy to track. Your track record on the aca, however, was that i think that the work that you guys did slowed the republicans effort to pass it in the house. In march, they put it up for a vote. It didnt pass. In april, they tried to bring it back, it didnt pass. Then in may they brought it back and it did pass. What did you learn from that in. Early on tlfrgs a tunnel of pressure during the february recess is when people were back in their districts. They were hearing from their constituents and they heard from people in the deep south, in deep blue districts, from all over, that they didnt want to see this Health Care Bill go through. Ultimately they rushed it through right at the end. They were able to get it through. Not without pain. They barely did it with two votes. Then we saw mitch mcconnell, he is smart. He saw what happened in the house. What did he was try to keep it in the dark. For the last several weeks, hes been cracking this bill in the dark. He knew if there was sunlight on it, people would see everything that was wrong. They would stand up and pressure their senators to oppose it. So what has happened with the cbo report, the actual bill. We know it is really bad. We know millions of people lose their Health Insurance. We know thousands could die. This is all in service of cutting billions in taxes for millionaires. But theres one good thing. It is public now. We know about it. So people are coming out. We identified 11 republicans in ten states a couple weeks ago. They look gettable. In each of those states, there have been indivisible groups going out the past couple weeks saying, look, i could be bankrupt or dead without the Affordable Care act. You need stand up for me. Dont stand up for trump care. We see thats working right now. It is not just democrats standing up against the bill. Weve seen senator collins in maine. Were they two of the ones you targeted some. Absolutely. Theres a brought resistance out there made up of folks joining planned parenthood or working families party, a lot of folks are coming out against. This not just democrats. This bill has an Approval Rating less than 20 for a reason. People recognize that it will really affect their lives. For folks watching, the answer should be clear. Look at what is going on. And stand up yourself. There is a rally going on outside the white house, or outside the capitol, senator booker, john lewis, theyre saying this isnt just about health care. This is a massive social justice issue. If you look throughout history and wonder, what would i do . Would i stand up . The answer is, it is what youre doing now. People all across the country are standing up now. The next 48 hours is crucial. We need one more republican to drop off this bill and we can save thousands of lives or health care for millions. The coexecutive director and one of the founders of the indivisible project. Thank you for coming in. 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He was named as the new nominee several weeks ago but tonight the white house finally put his name forward to the senate. Formally. So they can consider his nomination. Those confirmation hearings should be fun. I mentioned there are two things we are learning about why Jared Kushner is putting together a criminal defense legal team. One was the a story in the Washington Post. The other was about something that happened in december between Jared Kushner and something that everybody calls veb. The full thing it stands for is hard to pronounce. In new york, in december, during transition, we know that Jared Kushner took a meeting with the held of veb. The white house says this was a meeting that Jared Kushner took in his role as an official in the transition. But it was an unusual meeting. It was Jared Kushner and the chairman of v. E. B. , a man named sergei gorkov. Trained by russian intelligence, happened picked for this job by Vladimir Putin personally. Him coming to new york and meeting with Jared Kushner during the election, during transition, that has been a matter of some interest because of who gorkov is but also because Jared Kushner didnt say that he had he taken this meeting when he applied for a security clearance. We reported on friday, writing to the white house and the fbi, expressing concerns about Jared Kushners security clearance. Asking about the status of the clearance. Now we have this from the Financial Times which makes this meeting all the more intriguing. We had known before that the v. E. B. Had been used as a cover by the Russian Intelligence Services in the recent past. We knew, for example about, the intelligence back ground of the chief executive who met with kushner but we also knew the number two official in the new york office just finished a federal prison term for espionage, basically, work working as russian spy. We know that v. E. About fade spys legal fees in that case. We knew that v. E. B. Was singled out because of its importance to the russian government. What we didnt know before this reporting today from the Financial Times, while v. E. B. Is technically described as a bank and the v. E. B. Statement about why they were meeting with kushner was that they said it had 22nd the Business Strategy as a warning about, v. E. B. Doesnt appear to be a bank. As reported today by the financial time, v. E. B. Has no banking license. They are not regulated as if theyre a central bank. They have no independent board that oversees they will which banks have to have. In v. E. B. s case, they do have a board, a supervise over board who approves their decisions but every person who serves on that board is a currently serving government official, including the prime minister. They are also not in the position where they can raise capital like a normal bank. Theyre base clay passthrough of russian money. Vladimir putin gives them about 300 billion rubles a year from Government Funds and thats their capital. Thats what they have to spend. Thats a lot of things but thats not a bank. At least not in the way we think of a bank. From the Financial Times today, quote, the bank has no cash. They have no capital. Theyre basically just an article of the russian government. So why were they meeting with Jared Kushner during the transition . And a meeting that was reportedly qued by the Russian Ambassador and a meeting that Jared Kushner did not disclose when he was asked to until he was forced to about press reports by the meeting. I dont know why Jared Kushner took meeting and i dont know had a v. E. B. Was doing meeting with anyone in an american transition but Jared Kushner is very expensive new criminal defense lawyer may have a crack at that soon. Plus the bigger, weirder stuff that also broke today. Thats next. Hey, bud. You need some help . No, im good. Come on, moe. 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So that farmers like ray can compete in big ways. China. Oh. He got there. Thats the power of and. The president has not released his tax returns other than the two pages of his 2005 return that david k. Johnson got his hands on a few weeks ago. So he hasnt really released Tax Information of any consequence. And no Tax Information that looks anything like what other modern president s have released. But he has released Financial Disclosure statements and those make clear theres one bank he owes more money to than any other lender and that citibank deutsch bank. A major reason he owes they will hundreds of millions of dollars is because for a long time, Deutsche Bank was the only bank that would still do business with him. During his decades in the new York Business world, he became notorious for reneglecting on his obligations. For failing to pay back loans. Im not saying whether thats Good Business or bad business but thats famously the way he did business to the point every bank in new york refused to take him on as a customer anymore, except one. Except for Deutsche Bank. The weird thing about that, Deutsche Bank had just as much reason to want to be rid of him as customer as the other banks did, maybe even more so. Less than a decade ago, not only did trump fail to pay Deutsche Bank over 330 million he owed them on a loan for trump tower in chicago. When they tried to collect only loan, he turned around and sued they will. He claimed it was their fault that the apartments in his new trump tower were not selling. He turned around, he owed they will 330 million. He turned around and sued they will for 3 billion. He did not win. But even after stunts like that, Deutsche Bank explicably continued lending him hundreds of millions of dollars. And thats a new kinds of awkward because now trump is president of the United States and the Justice Department is currently deciding whether or not to bring federal criminal charges had for its role in a russian Money Laundering operation. Deutsche bank has paid hundreds of millions in fines over the Money Laundering fiasco but thats nothing compared to what the feds to extract if federal prosecutors decide to bring charges on top of the state charges they have faced. Congressional democrats have been sounding the alarms about the ability of the Justice Department to conduct had investigation into Deutsche Bank and russian Money Laundering, to be able to do it fairly given trumps personal obligations to that bank. Congressional democrats led by Maxine Waters have been asking Deutsche Bank to turn over documents directly to gong their dealings with trump so. Far the bank has refused those requests. Weve known all of this for a while. This mysteriously unshakeable relationship between trump and boich bank. But it turns out the bank also has a special relationship with Donald Trumps increasingly beleaguered soninlaw. Washington post reports today that one month before election day, so october, this past october, Jared Kushners Real Estate Company got a 285 million loan from Deutsche Bank. It was part of a refinancing will package from a year earlier. A property had increased in value by nearly 60 in just that one year that kushners family had been managing it. That magnificent appraisal allowed the company of kushners he to get an extra 74 million this cash. Another interesting part of this is that Jared Kushner reportedly personally guaranteed this loan. Meaning he is personally on the hook if the whole deal goes south. And yet despite taking out this massive loan the just before the election on very rosie materials, just before Deutsche Bank was that to pay hundreds of millions for russian Money Laundering, despite being the personal guarantor, the Washington Post reports that Jared Kushner did not mention this 285 million loan on his Financial Disclosure form. When he entered his fatherinlaws administration. He only got loan a month before election day but it slipped his mind when it came time the disclose these things. He kept it secret west already know that he failed on report his meetings with the Russian Ambassador and the head of a russian state boonk his security clearance form. It turns out he failed on disclose this giant personally guaranteed loan from Deutsche Bank thats in the middle of a russia Money Laundering scandal. I dont know Jared Kushner personally. I dont know anybody who knows Jared Kushner personally. 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And it got worse and worse for the administration from there. President trumps muslim ban has been sglokd revicesed and blocked again at every level and every court where it has been considered. The muslim ban has been slowed and stopped by the federal courts. But now today, the president and his supporters are celebrating what they are calling a 56th on this issue at the Supreme Court. Next to the courts decision today, starting on thursday, so starting the end of this week, a partial version of the muslim ban will go into effect. The Court Announced today that it will hear the case, it will review it in the fall, but in the meantime between now and the fall, part of ban gets put in place. The court says the ban cant target people who have a credible claim of a bona fide relationship with a person or entity in the United States. So if youre from one of these muslim majority countries, you have a Family Member living in the u. S. , a job offer, youre going to school in the u. S. , you wont be banned. At least not yet. But everybody else who doesnt have that kind of connection, if youre from one of those countries, President Trumps ban will keep from you being allowed to come into this country. And the president and his allies are obviously very happy about it. Attorney general Jeff Sessions said the decision is an important step toward restoring the separation of powers. Homeland security says it restores crucial and constituti Constitutional Authority with. All of that, even as the president is declaring this a victory, i have to tell you, one of the key figures in the fight against the muslim ban fwoegs differ. And he joins us tonight to explain why. Neil was acting solicitor general in the Obama Administration. He was the lead attorney for the state of hawaiis challenge to the travel ban and he joins us now. Thank you for being here. Always fabulous to be with you. I wanted to talk to you today because i went to go look at your twitter feed. To get your response on the ruling of the Supreme Court as the president had is celebrating it. And i expected you to be had to be against this ruling but you seem sort of positive on it. I was surprised to their president declare a unanimous victory today. If the president wants victories like this, well give to it him. Heres what happened. The u. S. Supreme court, 63, not unanimous, a 63 ruling against him, said the key parts of the muslim ban and the refugee ban cant go into effect. And to be sure, theres this technical piece for people who have no u. S. Connection that they, the Supreme Court said the president had won on. That is not and has never been the kind of heart of challenge. It has been you have all these people in the im that line who want to visit. The president is having a 90day, a 120day suspension. Those people are vex people who have connections to the United States. So it is true, he won Something Like that. So if there is a somali or yemeni tourist who wants to come to the United States who doesnt know anyone here, yes, the president has been able to block that person from coming in as a result of the Supreme Court decision today. If you think thats some big threat to our National Security, im not sure that any such tourists exist, but thats what the president won. Ultimately it has been a lot more talk than action on the National Security front. Let me ask but the 90day threshold too. I may just know naive about this. The way they phrased the ban initially baltimore there was an emergency National Security emergency in effect. They needed to take this extreme measure in a temporary way for 90 days to get a handle on this situation. By the time with what the Supreme Court did today, by the time the Supreme Court hears arguments this in the fall, 90 days will be, will have elapsed between when this starts on thursday and at the end of 90 days. So is there a chance it will get thrown out because it will be expired by the time they hear it . Thats the milliondollar question. It is always tough to read too much into a 12page Supreme Court opinion. I think the Supreme Court was deeply skeptical of the president s rationale. He kept saying i need 90 days to study the problem. Hes more than 90 days. He wants another fresh 90day clock. The Supreme Court said okay, well give that you 90 days to study problem. By the time we their case in october, you know, youve been able to study problem all want. So is there really a had National Security justification . I expect to be front and center of the argument well hear if october. What is the true National Security rationale as opposed to what the president has voiced time and again against muslims whiches seem like the animated focus against ban. You have been supportive of this neil gorsuch. Were you disappointed in his vote today . 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Now that this term of the Supreme Court is over, what did Donald Trumps first Supreme Court pick end up being like anyway . Joining us now is dolly lithwick. Ms. Lithwick, it is lovely to see you. Thank you for being here. Hey there, rachel. What is the scuttlebutt about retiring justices . Does no word on that today mean nobody is stepping down in the foreseeable future . I think it becomes very unlikely. I think particularly when we see the gerrymander cases are coming up, those are reverse engineered to be kennedy babies. Now i think the travel ban cases also reverse engineered to be like, please, justice kennedy. I think hes in it, at least for the next term. And i also think its worth saying, you know, its not at all clear that these rumors were coming anywhere from him in the first instance. It was just people doing numorology with the calendar. Well, and maybe a little upselling, maybe trying to say, hey, we did so well with gorsuch, we can get you another one, people who held your nose and voted for trump about the Supreme Court. So i think it was a little bit of an effort to keep people who were engaged because of the Supreme Court engaged over the summer. Let me ask you about gorsuch. Controversially for a democrat, somebody who was an Obama Administration official, he also supported Neil Gorsuchs nomination, sort of vouched for him, which was important coming from a democrat. What do you make of what we have learned about gorsuch. Whats he going to be like . What have we seen in the weeks hes been on the court . This has been really dispiriting, rachel. You can call this the you told mow so portion where i came to you and said, no, no, he might even be to the left of scalia. Hes clearly aligned himself time and time again actually with Clarence Thomas more than right to anyone. And today especially just a whole raft of decisions that came from him that show he is going to be antisamesex marriage, very, very eager to pull down the wall between church and state. And as we saw on the travel ban, really eager to afford trump broad, broad executive power. So this is not your center right justice. This is somebody who i think in hindsight, when dems decided to filibuster him, i think they knew what was coming up the pike. Dahlia lithwick, its great to see you. Thanks for being here. Thank you. All right. Well be right back. Stay with us. I noticed it as soon as we moved into the new house. A lot of people have vertical blinds. Well, if a lot of people jumped off a bridge, would you . You hungry . Im okay right im. Im becoming my, uh, mother. Its been hard, but some of the stuff he says is actually pretty helpful. Pumpkin, bundling our home and Auto Insurance is a good deal like buying in bulk thats fun, right . 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I have to tell you we dont really know what to make of this. But it is a serious sounding statement from the white house. We do believe this has come from them. I should tell you they put out no supporting information to explain what this was about or what theyre sort of bracing us for here. Im going to tell you exactly what theyve just said. The United States a statement from the press secretary. The United States has identified potential preparations for another chemical weapons attack by the assad regime that would likely result in the mass murder of civilians including innocent children. The activities are similar to preparations the regime made before its april 4th chemical weapons attack. As weve previously stated the u. S. Is in syria to eliminate isis. If, however, mr. Assad conducts another mass murder attack using chemical weapons, he and his military will pay a heavy price. Again, we do not know what this is about. The white house has not put out any supporting information, nor have they made any officials available to explain this. Our producers at the pentagon and state department are trying to chase this down but at this point cant get any supporting information either. Well let you know as we learn more. That april 4th chemical weapons attack referenced in the statement of course was followed on april 6th by President Trump ordering 59 tomahawk missiles to be shot into syria. I dont know if thats what theyre sort of if thats what theyre implicitly referencing here. But, again, an unusual statement just moments ago from the White House Press secretary. That does it for us tonight. Well see you again tomorrow. Now its time for the last word with lawrence odonnell. Good evening rachel. Im hearing that statement as you read it, and this is one of those times where