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Reporter, you can see Police Officers walking slowly through parliament with weapons drawn. Then you hear shots ring out inside the building. Right now members of parliament are still holed up inside their offices. Joining us now on the phone is justin lang, a freelance journalist live tweeting from inside parliament. Justin, tell us about the experience, what you saw and heard while you were inside of parliament today. Im actually still in parliament. I wont say where i am because we dont know if theres an active shoot other loose. I can tell you that i am somewhere in centre block where the shooting took place. This morning i was coming into my office on the third floor of parliament and it connects to a hallway that overlooks the hall of honor, which is where we believe the suspect was shot and killed. I took a different route and subsequently ended up in a different part of the building. But i was i was heading back down to my office, i had a i had a member of Parliament Come up to me and say there was an active shoot other loose and i should barricade myself somewhere. I went back across the hall to the room i was in. There was about two dozen people waiting. And i told them what had happened. You can kind of hear them behind me, getting a bit of cabin fever, as were all still on lockdown. From there we basically waited in the room for some time until Security Guard came in and told us, indeed, there was an active shooter in the building. They believed he was in the building. We then kind of barricaded ourselves in the back of the room. And we did hear at some point what sounded like gunshots in the stairwell, the fire exit behind us. Were not sure if those are gunshots but a series of very loud bangs, five or six in a row. There was some belief it was gunshots. Very harrowing. Hang on for a second, because i want to bring in by phone mark from the Canadian Police. Are we talking now about potentially one or more than one gunman . Well, with the limited information we have, we were not sure how many suspects. Were still actively looking. There was some erroneous information earlier that was reported on a lot of news outlets that there was an additional location near a mall. Is that now not a part of this investigation . Yes, contrary to earlier reports, there was no incident near the rideau centre, the mall. We were talking to a journalist whos still on lockdown inside parliament. Any idea how Long Parliament will remain on lockdown . Well, its going to remain on lockdown as long as were still actively searching. Until we exhaust all avenues or all leads. The Downtown Core will remain in lockdown. Are the Ottawa Police still cautioning people, i assume, to stay away from downtown . Oh, yes, we are. Thank you very much, mark from the Ottawa Police. Really appreciate it. Youre welcome. Justin, i dont know if you were able to hear that. Theres not real clarity on how many gunmen potentially were talking about. And sort of an indefinite lockdown for you. And youve been live tweeting this. Just tell me, are you with other people or are you somewhere on your own . No. Theres about two dozen of us in this room. Were looking at the tv, trying to keep abrust of whats happening. A lot of us are using twitter because twitter is prevalent among staff, the reporters here. Were keeping our eyes on the phone to see what the latest updates are. Were not surprised the lockdown will be ongoing for a little while. We were told the lockdown would be lifted once the building has been cleared. That hasnt happened yet. We havent seen any s. W. A. T. Teams or Police Officers on our floor in the last several hours. We dont believe that will be any time soon. Until that happens, were all bunkering down here. All right. Justin ling, stay safe. I appreciate you being on with us. Thanks. Lets bring in nbcs Pete Williams live from washington, d. C. Pete, what do u. S. Authorities know at this point . Reporter not much. Canadian officials have their hands full, so were not really going on what u. S. Officials are saying. Were learning a lot more from the canadians. It appears from this statement the police have put out that two people were killed today. One is the reserve soldier at the military memorial. But the second is the gunman inside parliament. They do say one male suspect has been confirmed deceased. So, were still waiting on word, as you were just trying to get it there from the police, about whether, in fact, there was more than one person with a gun. There are many people who thought they saw that. And the Canadian Police have to assume that that could be true. Thats why theyre doing what theyre doing. Here in the u. S. , joy, weve not heard any signs or any statements or any indication that security is being changed. No visible security change at our version of the Parliament Building in ottawa, at the u. S. Capitol building or the white house. Not much changed at the canadian consulate here in washington. Just the procedure of how you get in the door. Not in lockdown. No change in terms of u. S. Military. And the last word, the department of Homeland Security wasnt going to change anything. And i think its important, just to remind everyone here, that in the last several years the department of Homeland Security, as it got away from the colorcoded threat system, now doesnt raise the terror alert level here unless there is specific credible intelligence of an attack in the u. S. So, it wouldnt be their style, it wouldnt be their normal operating procedure just out of an abundance of caution because something happened in a neighboring country to raise the terror alert level or change the posture of things here in this country. Nonetheless, its important to note that the canadian officials have been on a heightened state of alert there for the last several weeks in response to a growing amount of intelligence about people in isis wanting to carry out attacks in canada against both u. S. And canadian targets in canada. Pete, there were we dont yet know who was behind the attack today, joy. As we continue, as we wait for the News Conference to begin in ottawa. Pete, there was a previous incident in canada, correct, that involved somebody they thought had islamic extremist leanings, recent convert to islam, who hit a couple of officials with his car, killed one. What do we know about that . And is that well, i mean, we dont know if thats related. That happened recently, correct . Two days ago, near montreal. A man parked his car in a parking lot outside a military recruiting building, a building that had a lot of other facilities, including military ones, sat in the parking lot for two hours until one man in uniform came out with another, who was not in uniform. He rammed his car into them. One was killed. One was injured. The man drove away. His car flipped over. He got out. Had a knife and was shot dead by Canadian Police. All right. Thanks for those updates, Pete Williams, appreciate it. You bet. Anthony roman is a security expert, Jim Cavanaugh, i want to bring both in while we wait for that News Conference. Tony, nltsot a lot of informati. One male suspect. Theyre keeping the capital on lockdown, essentially, indefinitely. Theres really no way the one suspect is now deceased, how do you even proceed in trying to figure out if this was a conspiracy or just a lone wolf . What theyre going to do is review all of the security cameras in the area and all of the videos, try and find eyewitnesss who may have filmed anything. That would be done by the investigators working outside of the perimeter and in the perimeter at this time. But the priority is to clear the Parliament Building, to make sure there are no other shooters there. There are eyewitness accounts and tony and i were talking earlier in the break before we came on, thats not necessarily so reliable because someone can see the same person twice and think they saw two people. Its not unusual or is it unusual for it to be unclear whether youre talking about one person or more than one person . Ive never been to one of these active shooter situations where you didnt get reports of multiple gunmen. You always get reports of multiple gunmen, even if theres one shooter. So, that has to be sort of flushed out. And each witness has to be looked at and what they say they saw. Like anthony said, review the videotape. But what investigators need to do quickly in these cases is to go to the deceased person and obtain any identification papers on them. Sometimes they could have a suicide note, they could have their wallet, they could have all kinds of things carried in their pockets. Necessity have a firearm that can be traced. And theres a car apparently left outside the Parliament Building that can be tracked for registration and so forth. You want to find out who the person is, this deceased shooter, and who are his associates and track back quickly from that. It remains to be seen, like pete said, joy, you know, if theres a second shooter. There is a lot of reports of that, but sometimes thats Police Seeing a policeman with a gun or something else. So, if its multiple shooters, it raises the bar a little bit of, you know, not necessarily a mad man who had a grudge against the government and it could fall into, you know, a lot of these warning signs, which you cant confirm it, you cant say it for sure, but tipping a little bit more toward internationally inspired terrorist act with the Canadian Military engaged in the middle east in the last few days, with the threats from overseas, with the runover of the canadian soldier. All these things add up to make that a top priority for investigators to look at. Right. We see the setup continuing of that press conference. Im assuming because canada has been on high alert and there has been some chatter, also they would be monitoring social media for anybody that might be talking about this or sort of taking responsibility. Is that part of the investigative process now or after they clear the immediate situation . Well, different units of the rymp, Royal Canadian mounted police, are important for protecting the Prime Minister and other senior members of parliament. The Tactical Units are there to clear the building and to ensure that there are no other shooters. Then you have the regular Police Officers who would cordon off the perimeter and watch that. With this situation with isis, whenever you have the United States, canada and some of the western allies attacking in force a terror group like isis, you can expect that there will be some homegrown terrorist sympathy for that. That has to be investigated. And social media is one of those elements. And as jim point out, of course, searching the body for evidence, looking for forensic evidence, tracing the rifles. All of that is part and parcel of this. Jim, the person, am i wrong, does not even necessarily have to be in coordination with anyone. It could just, as tony said, somebody with that sympathy and still be acting on their own, no . No, exactly, joy. I mean, it could be somebody whos internationally inspired, we call it, internationally inspired, even radicalized even over the web if the mode was terrorism. But, you know, when you look at motive, you also look at the targeting. Who is the person trying to kill . If we look in recent history, the people that have been trying to kill soldiers, and we can take that back to ft. Hood, internationally inspired terrorism. We can go to london with the machete attacks on the london soldiers, Carlos Bledsoe from ten fen who shot the he recruiting station, the soldier run over by just the other day in canada. So whos targeting those people are internationally inspired terrorist groups. Not so much just made men or or people with a grudge against the government. So, he attacked a soldier first and then he went to the government building, the parliament. Targeting is important to consider when youre trying to deduce what the motive of the shooter is. Thats interesting, because weve had homegrown terrorism that had nothing to do with International Sort of inspiration, you talk about the Timothy Mcveigh incident, targeting the federal government. So is that part of it, looking at the target and walking backwards to figure out potentially what the ties might number. Well, homegrown terrorists, criminals all follow a pattern we call it modus operendi. What telltale signs do they leave behind and what are the elements they leave behind in each terror attack or crime. Jim is absolutely right. For the last several years there has been a preponderance of repeated attacks against soldiers. And in the london case in which the soldier was terribly, terribly attacked, first hit by a vehicle and then fundamenta y fundamentally, you know, butchered, this may follow that kind of pattern since we saw Canadian Police and soldiers injured in the same kind of way. Someone exiting with a knife. So, it does follow the same m. O. , as we call it. Of course, this is you have Prime Minister of canada looking to speak with oh, the press conference is beginning. Lets pause and take a listen as they prepare to get started. I dont think theyre seated quite yet. I wonder if i have time to ask jim. The United States obviously monitoring this very closely because were leading those attacks against isis. What kind of security measures would be going into a place on our side of the border, very briefly . Well, you know, pete said they havent ramped up anything, but i can tell you the mental state of all our police, facilities, police and Security Officers are up on this. Whether or not theyve been ordered to change, mentally they know whats going on here. They watch the news and theyre more mentally acute today than yesterday. Theyre constantly on guard. Thats what happens. Ive been on these security details. Naets what happens to you. You know whats going on, so you pay attention. Indeed. Lets listen in to this press conference, now that everybody has found their seats and listen to the update out of canada. Remains ongoing. Please be mindful due to the ongoing situation and investigation, there will be many answers that we will not be able to answer at this time. Id first like to acknowledge the presence of Ottawa Police chief charles bordelou, Commanding Officer of rcmp, to his right Major General christopher coates, Deputy Commander of joint operations command, and finally to my far right, mayor of ottawa, jim watson. In terms of proceeding with the press conference, we will first have a statement by Ottawa Police chief charl. At 9 52 a. M. , the ottawa politician Service Received multiple 911 calls regarding a shootinging at National War Memorial. The victim of the shooting is a member of the Canadian Armed forces. His injuries were fatal. Our thoughts and prayers are with the member, his loved ones and other members of the forces. His identity and age wont be confirmed at this time as we are in the process of contacting his family. What followed was another incident on Parliament Hill. What i can tell you is that a male suspect is now deceased. Together with the rcmp, all available resources have been deployed to this Ongoing Police operation. Our priority is the safety and security of our community. Additional resources are on standby should they be required. All measures have been taken to ensure the safety and security of our residents. We are very aware of the large presence of military personnel in our community and i want them to know that we are committed to their safety. As i said, this is an ongoing operation. We are asking members of the public to stay away from the Downtown Core. People in the Downtown Core are asked to follow the instructions of their buildings management. The Ottawa Police service is looking for witnesses to come forward with information regarding the incident that took place this morning. Witnesses can contact our major crime section, 6132361222, extension 5493. And the rcmp set up an email address for public tips. We continue to communicate and work actively with our partners, including those in neighborhood jurisdictions. [ speaking french ] [ speaking french ] so, were listened to Royal Canadian mounted police, theyre doing it in french because theyre a dual nation. They talked about condolences to the one deceased. Its an active situation. Theyre actively investigating. Jim cavanaugh and Anthony Roman are still with me. Lets talk about the response. We still have people locked down. Why not escort the people who are currently on lockdown out of parliament and just empty empty the building . The priority right now is to search for the shooter and to protect as many residents of parliament and members of parliament and their staff as possible. We dont need a lot of civilians right now in the hallways where units of police are coordinating can mistake one for the shooter and we have a terrible tragedy, or perhaps the shooter blend in with the crowd and escape in that matter. In the kenyan mall attack we are regrettably units of the police that were shot by the security because they were in plain clothes. Absolutely. Lets dip back in and listen. I think its gone back to english. This is a dynamic and unfolding situation. I understand that people have many questions. And we are committed to providing some answers as soon as we are able. What i can tell you right now is that all available and necessary resources were activated and deployed immediately when we became aware of the incident. They will continue to be here for as long as theyre needed. The Ottawa Police service is leading the investigation for all incidents that have taken place outside Parliament Hill. The rcmp conducting the investigation on Parliament Hill. These are situations we ask Police Officers to train for. We train our own members and we train with other police agencies. We conduct scenariobased training to cover all kinds of threats, including what weve seen in ottawa today. Its important for all canadians to be vigilant and report anything they think is suspicious to their local police so it can be assessed and followed up on. We are continually assessing and monitoring the situation as we move forward and sharing information with Law Enforcement and Security Community in order to ensure we have what is necessary to do our jobs and keeping ka nadz yans safe. [ speaking french ] as we go back to french in that press conference, were going to come back here and talk a little more with our panel. I want to go quickly to Jim Cavanaugh. There was about two weeks ago a joint intelligence bulletin circulated among Law Enforcement that warned about the potential for isis isil u. S. Based sympathizers to carry out attacks here, according to the reporting. And our attacks on isis isil in syria could inspire those kind of attacks. Given that, we are now seeing this happen in canada, but i assume, jim, the same kind of vigilance you just heard them talking about there in canada is happening here . Its got to be, joy. It always was. When we got reports like that, we would all share it with each other across Law Enforcement. You know, what status do we need to take . It may be invisible to the public but Law Enforcement officers are aware of it, militarys aware of it. Certainly, you should always listen to these guys. If you go back to al qaeda, they told us, they declared war on us in the mid90s. We werent listening very well. Maybe our intelligence agencies were, but across the board, the country wasnt listening. And what they do, they tell you what theyre going to do and then they go do it. Its not unusual as these warnings came to canada, were going to attack, lowgrade attacks like Pete Williams talked about with firearms and knives. You disregard those and do it to your own peril. Very available in english, a message of 2. 6 muslims in the United States, this is how to respond to obamas war. Open threats being made as a result of what were doing there. Some indication of what were doing there might be more effective than they thought it was and theyre feeling the pinch. You know those threats are out there, tony, but we have open access to our government. You have the ability to go in and visit congress and the white house. Where do you find that balance between trying to secure those bases and. In the west weve seen a moving benchmark of security relative to protecting the perimeter of the white house, the perimeter of congress, parliament and some of the government houses in western europe. Fundamentally, there should be a but buffer zone between civilian population with Access Points so they can be screened prior to reaching the buildings and we just saw that fail in the white house very misserably. We are working with our Law Enforcement partners in response to this ongoing situation. As a precautionary measure until such time as the situation is considered under control, military and civilian personnel working in the ncr have been told to remain in their buildings until further notice. Individuals with necessary credentials are being provided access. Canadian armed forces bases and establishments are currently taking precautions appropriate to their environments, to ensure the safety and security of personnel and infrastructure. Thank you. Mayor of ottawa, jim watson. Thank you. Today is a sad and tragic day for our city and our country. And im sure i speak for all residents of our city which i extend my heartfelt condolences to the family of the individual who lost his life this morning while standing guard at the National War Memorial in the heart of downtown ottawa. I also want to convey to those who were injured today, the thoughts of your city and the neighbors are with you. [ speaking french ] theres no pain greater than losing a loved one. To have it happen in such circumstances as this morning is beyond expression and underlined with a sad anger in my heart but i will not let that anger rule the day. Our city, ottawa, the capital of our country, has seen and lived through tragedy in the past. Were doing so again today. A different sort of tragedy, not yet fully known. Causes not yet fully understood. We all want answers, none more so than me. Those answers will come from our dedicated policing forces, the rcmp, Ottawa Police services and, no doubt, other forces as we construct this tragic course of events. Today i urge all my fellow residents to think of the individuals standing on guard this morning at the National War Memorial. Remember how that that one persons life has been taken from us, from family, from friends, from the future that was to be his. [ speaking french ] i want to thank the brave men and women, our first responders, rcmp, house of common security, police, paramedics for their compassion, professionalism and dedication. Thank you. Thank you. That concludes the first part of the press conference. We will now be taking some questions. I ask you please identify where youre from and who your question is directed to. Sectly, please be mindful theres a lot of questions that cannot be answered at this time. [ speaking french ] [ speaking french ] just hang on a s. E. Econd. One question at a time, please. Reporter what warning, if any, did Law Enforcement or National Security agencies pick up about the possibility of this incident, or did it take everybody by surprise . I think its still too early to confirm that, but i think that from our reaction, i think it caught us by surprise. Reporter how is that possible . Again, its too early to get to the bottom of all the details of what transpired. Its an Ongoing Police operation. And up until weve had a better chance to investigate and determine exactly what happened, its too soon to answer that question. Thank you, maam. Reporter global news. Youre telling the public to be vigilant. Are there still suspects out there . You said there was more than one suspect earlier. So, is there still someone on the loose . Were still investigating the operation. Were in the process with the rcmp with clearing and securing Parliament Hill. Thats a slow and methodical approach. Were asking the community to continue to be aware, remain vigilant and report any suspicious activity they deem serious that could impact their safety. So, to phone 911 or to phone or email us with any information that will assist in the investigation. But also in general terms, weve been asking the community to remain vigilant over potential l acts weve seen overseas and other countries. Thats something weve always asked canadians to be aware of, be vigilant and report any suspicious activity that may identity any individual that may want to cause harm to canadians. Were in the act of an operation right now. Were treating this very seriously now with the rcmp in Clearing Parliament hill to render it safe. Reporter was the suspect who was killed this morning, was he one of the 19 people identified as being radicalized . Again, this is too early to be able to determine that. Reporter as a followup. Either speaking with or putting those people under surveillance [ inaudible ] we draw all of our resources toward any threat that exists and actively investigate those individuals. Sir, youre behind the camera, please. [ speaking french ] so, youve been listening to a press conference by four people. Charles bordeauleux, gill mouchand for Royal Canadian mounted police, jason coates, continental police, and jim watson, the mayor of ottawa, where this shooting took place. Tony, lets go back and talk about the question that was being asked in the press conference multiple times. Why is it, after so many hours, is it still not clear whether it was one shooter or multiple shooters . The tactical approach by the s. W. A. T. Teams to clear Parliament Hill is an extraordinary task. First, its a massive complex with a series of buildings. They have to search every room, identify each and every parliament member, assistant and visitor whos on site. Clear the rooms. Not only the rooms but clear the air vents, clear hidden areas, clear storage closets. So, its a methodical, methodical process that may go on well into tomorrow. Jim, one of the dangers, apparently, would be that if forces go in, if somebodys motivated to attack Law Enforcement or motivated to attack soldiers, then you could be putting mortar gets if, indeed, there is someone laying in wait, is that the case . Thats right. What the person could be doing, if they exist, is waiting for that response from the Tactical Team so they can engage them in, you know, a suicidal frenzy, so to speak. They can hide. Thats why when you see a s. W. A. T. Commander, tactical commander say theyve cleared it, like tony was describing, when they clear it, as they inch forward, theres nothing behind them. They clear the closets. They clear the crawl spaces. They dont want to let anybody flank them. And it takes its very methodical to clear a building because you cant let anybody get behind you, so they do that very carefully. Theyll be slow about it. The good news is if youre in there, locked down, the police have control of the building. Just stay put. And theyll come and get you, you know. It will take some hours, but you should be safe. Indeed. Let me bring in hold on, guys, i want to bring in bassy, a correspondent. There were warnings and potential chatter about danger in ottawa. Were those public warnings . Were those things as a parliamentary reporter something that was public or just something that may not have been known beforehand . Thats a great question. We actually broke the story yesterday. It was not public. I was actually leaked a Terror Threat chain document as of last friday. Basically, our National Security agency here increased the threat level for the first time in four years for canada. Basically, the difference in that threat level was it went from someone being capable or having the intent to attack on canadian soil to being cable and having the intent to attack. So, the threat level increased. Its not like the u. S. Where that kind of thing is public. The government confirmed it late yesterday, though. They said that it wasnt due to a specific threat. Rather, an increase in general chatter from radical islamic organizations. But, clearly, you know, a bit of a precursor to what happened today. Vassy, talk a little about this area, this Parliament Area and the war memorial. How open is the access to the Parliament Buildings . Well, im standing actually not far from this right now. Its extremely open. I can tell you im a political reporter here. I work in a building that overlooks that war memorial. Its a completely public spot. My colleagues, a few of them, witnessed what happened within, you know, a minute. I ran downstairs, i came outside. Many members of the public it was just before 10 a. M. Its a busy business district. Many members of the public were here. Immediately a number of witnesses went and started performing cpr on the victim who has since passed away. And, you know, a number of witnesses saw one suspect run away and head towards Parliament Hill, which i can tell you is not even a fiveminute walk from the war memorial. So he ran into Parliament Hill. We knew at that point things were about to escalate even further. Obviously, eyewitness accounts are what they are, but as trained observerobservers, d witness more than one person, your colleagues . No, my colleagues witnessed one person. One person. Yeah. Some defense sources ive been speaking to here say that, you know, its suspected this could have been some kind of coordinated attack, or while there might have been only one person at the war memorial location, there could have been others elsewhere. Thats what theyre looking for now. We dont know a specific number of suspects other than the one thats already been killed. Thank you very much. Lets go back to that press conference and well listen in now. Again, thats way too early to be able to determine a motive. Last question, please, behind the camera. [ speaking french ] [ speaking french ] thank you very much. This concludes the press conference. All right. We have just wrapped up listening to that press conference, which was by the Ottawa Police chief, members of the leaders of the Royal Canadian mounted police as well as the mayor of ottawa on that shooting earlier today. We know of one suspect dead, one person also dead in that shooting. And i want to keep our panel here. Im going to come back quickly to Anthony Romano. We were talking about in an open society like this, where you do have vulnerable targets and where we are actively fighting a group like isis isil in their own turf and where they cant get to us militarily, this is really sort of the new kind of threat that we face, right . This is what we need to be prepared for. As Jim Cavanaugh was saying, as i was driving into the studio this afternoon, we are in a new world war. Its a different world war. But no question that we have to be prepared for all types of surprise attacks at home. And im concerned about our level of preparedness, particularly in the civil area, the malls, the schools, places of public gathering. I really believe that were still at considerable risk. Although its much better than it was at 9 11. I think theres a lot more that can be done. And its interesting, jim, because weve had you on about peoples feeling in a sense of being overpoliced in a lot of ways in this country, but what anthony is stalking about is sort of overpolicing on the one hand, but at the same time there is a sense that people are not expecting Something Like this to ever happen, quote unquote, to them. Right, exactly, joy. Policing has a lot of facets to it. Theres a lot of things that go on in. As tony brings up, as i said earlier, this sort of low order world war is a new phenomenon. Where the world has changed, the digital age and people can be recruited worldwide electronically. This war is different than past wars. But it is a low order world war. It has guerrillatype tactics. It happens in countries across the world. Europe, australia, england, canada, the United States. Thats whats going on. For us to deny that ourselves makes us, you know, suffer for it. And also weve got to realize is these acts inspire other acts. So, you have a soldier who was run over just the other day in canada. If this turns out to be an internationally inspired or terrorist attack, the action is inspired again. Now, if that turns out to be the case, all the Police Forces and force protection and secret service and Capitol Police and everybody across canada and the United States has to be really sharp because other actors who might have been on the edge of wanting to do something, can be inspired by these acts. And then spur them to action. So, its not so much, you know, a notice from Homeland Security, we have no credible information. You know, if i saw one of those in my career, i saw a thousand. No credible information. Well, you dont have to have credible information for one or two inspired actors to go out, pick up rifles and start shooting. Indeed. Everybody stay with us. Our breaking News Coverage will continue next with a look at how the white house is responding to the developments in ottawa. 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The president has been briefed on the situation in ottawa by his top Homeland Security adviser. Nbcs Kristin Welker is following developments at the white house. What do we know reporter the white house is monitoring the situation quite closely. As you mentioned, president obama did speak with Prime Minister harper. Were anticipating a readout of that conversation later on today. For now, white house officials stressing the very close relationship between the United States and canada and saying theyre in close contact with their canadian counterparts. In terms of the security here at the white house, im told there is no change. The secret service is aware of the situation. Theyre monitoring the situation quite closely. We do know that norad is on heightened alert, also the u. S. Embassy in canada in ottawa is on lockdown. But in terms of the security situation here, there has not been any change at this point in time. Now, president obama, as you mentioned, was briefed earlier today by his homeland secure adviser lisa monaco. Hell continue to get briefings throughout the day, including by his National Security adviser, susan rice. Now, he was scheduled to have a meeting with his socalled ebola czar, ron klain. Thats set for 3 00 this afternoon. Prior to this shooting, joy, we expected to hear some brief comments from president obama at the conclusion of that meeting, so i wouldnt be surprised if we heard some comments from president obama about this shooting. We will, of course, continue to monitor that and try to get the very latest from that phone conversation that he did have with Prime Minister harper. The white house certainly monitoring this situation quite closely, as we have been reporting throughout the day. Canada recently joined the United States in the fight against isis, but u. S. Officials are stressing at this point in time, its just too early to know what the motive of this shooting is. Joy . Kristin welker, thanks very much. As kristin just reported, norad is beefing up its security and the agency now says its moved to high alert posture. No aircraft have been scrambled yet but Officials Say theyre ready if that should be needed. Nbcs mick initially appeared to be some terrorist operation. Were told that norad fighter jets were put at a higher state of alert just in case. After all, could it be a coordinated attack . Could there be terrorist in a private plane or even a hijacked aircraft . But they emphasized, theyre only on alert. They have not been put into the air. But they would be ready to respond to any aviationrelated threat. Thats the only way norad would get involved in this operation. Thank you very much. More after the break as we continue our breaking news. There was a guy with a rifle just around on the back corner and just, pow, pow. 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That was a witness explaining the frightening moments this morning when a one suspect, who is now, we understand, dead, killed one member of the Canadian Military. The parliament in canada, in ottawa, its capitol is still on lockdown. Theres an active investigation under way and people are asked to stay out of the area. U. S. Homeland security says theres no threat here in the United States but theyre monitoring the situation. Senior terrorism analyst. We were talking in the break. The break ought to be its own show. You were giving interesting information about a threat directly made to canadian citizens. What was that about . Yesterday, after the ramming of the two soldiers by a radical in canada, that action was heavily celebrated by a number of canadian isis fighters. One of them, as a matter of fact, tweeted his celebratory tweets and actually incited attacks incited others in canada to follow suit, to be copycats, essentially. We obviously dont know if this is a coordinated terrorist attack, whether inspired or on behalf of isis. But it appears to be coordinated, nonetheless, having had taking place in three different places at the same time, 24 hours after ramming the two soldiers. It doesnt necessarily even have to be coordinated by a large group. We were talking earlier with Jim Cavanaugh and with tony roman about the fact you do have isis active on twitter, active on social media, putting out movie trailers to inspire people to come and join. It is attracting people. We had a story earlier today about young women in colorado preparing taking money from their parents, preparing to go over there, young men and women from europe and around the world going to syria to fight, inspired by this really sort of sophisticated marketing campaign. Very much so pment Islamic State reaches out to western audience all the time. As recently as a couple weeks ago the Islamic State spokesman incited attacks in the west, lone wolf style attacks. Also the Islamic State has an english language magazine, very glossy, that specifically talks about, you know, western jihadists coming to the land of jihad or inciting western jihads to incite acts of terrorism at home. This is just one part out of its multifaceted english language machine active on social media and also Password Protected forums. Is it a sign this the fight on the ground is not going as well as they thought . Isis has not been able to take kobani. Theres actually been resistance. The same propaganda that made iraqi fighters essentially not willing to fight them because they seemed so fearsome, now that doesnt seem to be working and turning against big governments. Now theyre facing more air power, u. S. Air power, canadian air power, could it be theyre more desperate and lashing out in the west . Its desperate for isis to take over kobani. Theyve had their workers from raqqa go up to aleppo to engage in the fight. Its an indication u. S. Forces are causing deadly losses to the Islamic State but theyre not essentially weakening the group as a whole. It just appears theyre causing heavy losses for them in certain areas. Now, you know, were engaged in asymmetrical warfare. We should expect when were engaged in that kind of warfare against a terrorist group with international aspirations, we should expect some lone wolf attacks might take place in western countries as a result. We should emphasize we dont know if this is the situation in ottawa right now. One suspect is dead. Its unknown if there are other people involved or unknown if theres direct connections to isis. In general, in the psychology of people who may be susceptible to that kind of propaganda, does it matter if they have any ties to a group like no, it does not matter. They have to adhere to the ideology and act upon it. Thats essentially written in Islamic State propaganda that you dont have to be a member of the group, join us on the ground. You can act on behalf of us, act out of inspiration by us, and, you know, obviously we cannot ascertain if this is a terrorist attack on behalf of isis, but we should have our alert level high and be watchful. What is the defense against . I mean, canada is a country that has very little gun violence. They have comparatively very few shootings. So Something Like this really does stand out. What would be the defense against that if it can be individual inspiration . Well, you know, in the general scheme of things, deradicalization process has to take place gradually. Over time. Many, many different individuals have to go online, have to create this counternarrative against isis. So, to prevent one single attack, it might sometimes be impossible just because we cannot, you know, predict that. The unknown unknowns, if you will, but we need to keep our intelligence work at the highest level. And i think intelligence is everything right now. And does u. S. National security need to be, obviously, on social media . It needs to get involved in that. Most certainly. I dont think it has to be from the state department. I think it has to be grass roots organized campaigns that actually are rejecting this ideology, are going on social media and countering that narrative. Thank you so much for being here. Appreciate it. And we will, of course, have ongoing coverage of the shooting that took place in ottawa. I want to thank our other experts, Anthony Roman and Jim Cavanaugh. That wraps things up for the reid report. Stay with msnbc and the cycle for continuing coverage of the deadly events in ottawa, canada today. An Important Message for americans eligible for medicare. The annual Enrollment Period is now open. Now is the time to find the coverage thats right for you. 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