>>good afternoon. i would like to call the regular meeting of the public utilities commission to order. mme. sec., would you please call the roll? >>may i have everybody sit down? >>present vietor. >>here. vice president moran? >>here. >>commissioner caen? >>commissioner courtney >>here>>here. >>commissioner kwon? >>here. >>present vietor. >>here.commissioner kane is expected shortlyand commissioner courtney will not be able to be here today. mme. sec. next item please. >>item number three is approval of the minutes of august 9, 2016 >>all those in favor say, aye. opposed, nay the motion passes unanimously. mme. sec. can you call item for please? >>item 4 is gen. public comments. members of the public may address the commission on matters that are within the commission's jurisdiction and are not on today's agenda. >> now,the way that the watershed is at crystal springs measures are taken to protect it and we have a system, a unique system and we have a gentleman here who has been working on that since 1993 and i have been looking at this since 1998 vigorously.water is going to be a resource that we cannot play with.now, i know you have some experts here. it is the year 2016 and we flush our toilets and we have clean drinking water and it says a lot for the city. when we look at the sea level rise and the climate change and this that and the other we need to conserve water and we need to use it for the right things. i am here to ask you commissioners, that if any changes are made to the watershed that you waited invite the [inaudible] to the table [timer dings] it is very simple. you do not need to be a rocket scientist. they reserved all of that water for our the last 200 years and now someone will come along for the next 30 years and screw it up. i know that you commissioners have the gumption to do the right thing. thank you very much. go to the board of supervisors. >>thank you. any other general public comment at this time? next item please. >>that next item is item 5; communications. >>do we have anypublic comment on communications? good afternoon. >>good afternoon. i am here to speak on behalf of the water review from your state board and that is required for the state law. and i am here to verify that this is a comprehensive and complete report on the annual report. i wanted to extend that information to you. last year we gave some significant comments to mr. wade and his team and they responded to those incorporated those and i think it shows leadership in the overall status so thank you. >>thank you for your comments. yes, i thought it was a very impressive report. i thought so too. i don't see him here so thank you very much on your comments on the report. >>any other comments on communications? mme. city clerk, item 6 please. >>item 6 is other commission business. >>seeing none, mme. city clerk please read item 7. >>item 7 is citizens advisory commission or your report. >>good afternoon pres. vietors and commissioners and i am here today to report for the cac. i am proud to say that the cac attended a cac retreat. during the retreat we obtained our purpose of the subcommittees for 2016 and 2015the cac members have the executive management team showed us the priorities over the 2015 2016 team and you can see more about our priorities through the water power and wastewater subcommittees in 2016-2017 that were identified during our retreat. we will continue to work with the general manager and the executive management team to provide prior input on these things that were identified. i work with staff and the board has appointments 48 out of 13 of our other appointments. in addition the board appointed members out when a donna and steve mckenney who was just appointed last friday. we do have people in the pipeline for eight, nine, and 10. in april after the committee adopted a resolution to honor the life of espinal jackson, the commission acknowledged what ms. jackson had done first city. i'm happy to say that her followed in her mother'sfootsteps. this was passed on tuesday and it was brought to the cac last month on october 20. we will continue to monitor and evaluate the use of these innovative strategies to engage with the stakeholders. we had an open house and our powers subcommittee had a meeting led by our district 6 representative mark connors. lastly, i want to thank commissioner moran, and we are happy that commissioner moller will be joining our meeting next week. and that is it. >>thank you. thank you for your service. and that was good work. >>any public comments on your cac report? hearing done next item please. >>item 8 is report of the general manager. >>good afternoon commissioners. the first thing that i would like to do is update you on the land use committee. this was a meeting that was held yesterday and it was a resolution that was passed about the peninsula watershed. so if you could come up steve and give us an update. >>steve ritchie with power and water. a resolution yesterday urged the puc to authorize the resolution. we provided info to the puc which is in our capital program that we are working on right now. it also requires the puc to provide a report by october 17th detailing the existing conditions of the watershed plan. i think it is clear to the board that we do need additional analysis and we consider that part of the plan. you will be moving down that path but it's very hard to accelerated and what is required of the plan. the watershed does go further than that. the two- year plan does not include the funding for operating a trail budget system. we will bring that to you at the next budget meeting when that would open and 2019. we do plan to come back to the commission in 2017 with a plan review and we plan to provide an overview of the watershed trails plan and this was provided at the memo of your last meeting. we will come back in the near future at your next meeting or to. i would be happy to answer any questions that you might have about that but i think this is very significant for us as the puc. >>so the plan would accelerate the process? >>it would implement the watershed plan. >>has there been communication with this board with this plan? >>there has been discussion and there are commissioners thathave given us the access. >>i just wanted to inform you that this is happening. although, it is not on the agenda so you may not want to discuss it as much. we are doing whatever we can to make sure that whatever is adopted is consistent with the plan. >>you will let the commission know if there's anything additional? >>yes. >>and, we will provide that to the board. >>any other questions commissioners on this? okay, thank you. please keep us informed even if there is no action needed. >>now we will have- given update on cleanpowersf. >>good afternoon, commissioners we are currently serving 300 locations and we have an opt out rate of 1.9% and not last year was 1.8 so we've seen a slight increase but we have the and no harm no foul opt outperiod that has concluded. are super green and and green are now down to 6%. so we have acquired some of them as well. kelly has approved a contract for renewable energy. the customer program notification is being sent out in batches. the first two batches have gone out. we are planning on enrolling about 73,000 service locations. so, i just told you that we currently have 7300 a so this is a big step for us.about 8000 of those customers of receive them so far and we've received 49 up out and 53 from super green in that process. >>how many again? >>so out of those 8000 we got 49 opt outs and53 upgrades. we are currently planning our spring enrollment. we are currently planning on doing that in may 2017.we are meeting regulatory requirements that we are working on and one is to meet adequacy requirements and the other is to meet a long term activity requirement and that is for renewable power for 10 years or more. we are making more progress on those. i don't have any concrete steps but i will for the next meeting. on the regulatory front i would like to discuss one activity that we were engaged in and that was about the diablo canyon radiation plant should be retired. we believe the plant should be retired but we also believe that cca it just like the cleanpowersf should be procuring on behalf of their customers and not pg&e and those supply choices should be made by the local agencies like yourself and with community and part. we are also asking pg&e for a request for cost recovery for resources that will be needed not now but before the 2025 deadline where diablo will be off-line. also we are looking for approval for new energy supply plans and we are arguing that that is the process that should be used for any needed resources to make up for diablo for pg&e customers. i am mentioning this because this is a big ticket item and it is also likely to draw some press so i just wanted to make sure that you know where our positions are with that venue in the california public utilities commission. in their filing, pg&e projects how much load they should leave as their responsibilities and become part of that caseload. they are suggesting that in 2025 a little over 40,000 kwh per year will be served by cca. to put that in perspective that is about 19 more than clean energies. >>how much was that? so that would be 34 tw hours. >>it is a lot. that is my way of thing it is a lot. >>that service is territory why? >>that is not san francisco? >>no, no, no. that something would san francisco will be serving. we will be serving a fraction of that. they are arguing that only a portion of that should go to them and also an investment with the op low to keep it in market in that process and that would be $100 per gigawatt hour. >>[inaudible] >>you're anticipating where this is going but part of what pg&e is doing is asking california puc to pass on cost for all of the customers they currently have. while at the same time, a saying bunch of them are going to be our customers anymore. >>what are they projecting when they're projecting that they are going to be losing customers. i mean, those customers will be there customers anymore. >>a portion of their load they will serve with renewables and increasing their energy efficiency committment. >>and not just san francisco but other parts of california as well >>right and pg&e are arguing that they will have higher efficiency costs and higher costs for their customers. >>and this is settlement for what? >>this is to settle the case saying this is what pg&e agreed to. >>but is this for the shutdown of diablo? >>yes, the shutdown of diablo and the replacement of the energy that will be needed. >>so, without pg&e have they projected how they will replace the power? >>they are saying they will increase the power with increase renewable and increased energy efficiency. >>do we know how much that is? >>yes, i do not have that in front of me but i can certainly get that for you. they are saying they don't want to cover all that load too. i can bring back to you the portfolio of what they are proposing between energy efficiency and renewables. okay? >>thank you. >>thank you very much. >>it looks like cca is doing what they are supposed to hopefully pg&e will follow suit and do what they're supposed to. >>mme. sec., can you please call the next item. >>they have been doing excellent work. commissioners, i think you're also bringing up good points about the cpuc i am very concerned with how they were performed based on past project of ccas. this well be a problem not just for current ccas but future ccas. when you look at how much energy they will be losing you can almost make the argument that you don't need diablo anymore but for diablo that is not the problem. the problem is that for the renewals that are intermittent in nature, that is not a problem for diablo. that means you don't need a plant like diablo anymore. we need to make sure that we are and i know that your staff is doing this already is just making sure how those procedures are being handled because if they are trying to recoup charges they could be doing that for a plant that customers already been charged for. but just keep your staff on this plan. >>thank you jason. any other comments on this item? seeing none. next item please. >>the next item is the report of the capital improvement program quarterly report. >>good afternoon. i like to briefly touch on the highlights in the last quarter in these areas and then also budget and schedule issues that are in the report and then conclude with a couple of comments. firstly i like to highlight that mountain tunnel there is six things happening. one is that the tunnel has access improvements will be on their way and you add-its have been added and they willbe going forward to. finally, the longer-term project mountain tunnel improvements is moving forward as well in the planning phase and that means recent conclusion of the phase for that program. that kind of addresses mountain tunnel. in terms of other projects we successfully completed the crossing of the kv transition liens against mount pedro we we resulted in some bid projects and we have approved two new projects at both kirkwood and home powerhouses and also the moccasin pin stock project using pin stocks for multiple available funding. finally we had a request for qualifications issued in july. shifting to the- program the cost of the wind fire program is about $20,000 under the baseline budget. the other good news is that we submitted about 80% of the eligible insurance reimbursement packages which is about $5.7 million. so, that is moving forward. further to that we will have a number of eligible grant reimbursement packages through through the and that is where we will return. >>this rehabilitation> is expected to be about million dollars above the approved baseline budget. also we will be looking at the powerhouse project and the d2 expansion on that work. for the cherry dm out works participation we haven't included the construction budget in the current baseline and that will be included once we have the design finalize. and then, just a couple other notes that low or cherry aqueduct will be complete after a little bit more discussion. we are waiting for a response from land management before we can really move forward with that work. finally, i mentioned that in terms of inspection and repairs, the second phase of the interim repairs are expected this be a about six months after the plants shut down. that is all i have. i be happy to answer any questions. >>can you give us timelines? can you give us timelines for items you talked about that are i don't want to say overdue but i guess they are. >>which projects did you want to know about? >>all of them. >>okay so there is a forecast scheduled extension on several projects mainly the lower cherry aqueduct it is about a year behind schedule due to right away issues. >>that would be 2017? >>so, yes. so, we are planning to rebuild the construction january 2017 and issue a notice to receive in july. >>and so, what is completion to show me see completion is--if you just give me a moment i can look that up. >>okay.the completion would be june 2018. >>okay. >>and then, with respect to the other projects that i mentioned, mountain tunnel inspection and repairs, phase 2--actually dan, do you know what the completion date is for the repairs? i can look. >>well, you said it was set back six months because of the inspection? >>that was mountain tunnel. so that would be december 2019. >>okay, then how about--we have two other projects. >>yes, while the san joaquin pipeline--well, i mentioned to overruns and those were the two scheduled overruns. >>okay, and what completion date we have for calaveras? >>so calaveras stand that is the wissup that is not part of my report today but i'd be happy to answer that. >>i'm sorry. >>that is scheduled for 2019. >>thank you. >>any other questions? >>any public comment on the hetch hetchy water and power capital improvement program? seeing none, next item please >>next item is the wastewater enterprise quarterly report/sewer system improvement program. >>good afternoon commissioners i am karen kubikthe assistant manager of the wastewater enterprise quarterly report/sewer system improvement program. we have one to report and this is the use of 1550 that will not be for sore ups they will be for griffis pump station. we were looking at 2017 now are looking at 2018. so if i can have the slides please. >>there are five that were given awards we have a few infrastructure projects heading out the door and we have three green infrastructure projects and three improvement projects and eight that are complete and one in closeout. you can see the percentage complete our on the low side still but this will be picking up and picking up as we get into 2017 and 2018 as well. here just to give you an idea of where some of our program projects are. the green is construction on our bar chart. i will do a little deeper of a dive on the projects i know you're interested in. >>as well, we have our early implementation projects we have three and construction and to our in the works and about 2018 mid 2019 we will have all of these built, running, and monitoring their performance. so, this is really exciting. on the treatment plan side, this is a two marquis projects that we spent a lot of time talking about. the first is headworks and headworks is at 68% at $358 million. and we are looking at the construction being completed by february 2017. the second is biosolids and it is in the current phase design at 35% by the end of the year. and we anticipate completion to be spring 2017. this is our one full environmental review that we are doing in this process and construction is on track to begin in the summer of 2018. a lot of time is being spent on the project side to support our project teams.we had one from commissioner courtney. it is a shame he is not here he did an excellent job and it really helped to implement our project. we initiated certified green bonds to eligible projects in sustainable stormwater management one eligible projects. staff has been working on a national basis to help design a national green infrastructure certification program for contractors. and this will be used nationwide. however, there are many challenges with implementing a capital program this size and keeping us going and staying on schedule and this keeps us on our toes essentially. i just want to highlight our concerns or some of this concerns we may have because you can help guide us through these obstacles. the first is funding. we will need to see this go through. we also have the storm rate and there have been some shifts by the state revolving funds about half of the amount of our regular bonds. the state has gotten a lot of interest by rewarding state involved land funds. many of our projects will do extremely well in those areas. but we will keep you posted and deputy general manager might call farland is went up there to see the staff through this. the next thing is staff retention. what is happening is there are so few peopleare moving from plant to plant. one or engineering side we have also lost a lot of good engineers. those folks participate with our teams, they review plans, so that's going to be challenging. land acquisition and site control, i know we have talked about this a lot already as well. but obtaining the asphalt plan has really helped a lot and we've had the team helping us here the next challenge would be shut down then scheduling. we have had a lot of salt water coming into our collection system when the salt water comes in it is basically on a toxic level. this has high sodium and high pdf and this is the times we need to shut down the plant. additionally, we have electrical vulnerabilities. so, this is a concern, one with people that are experiencing an other than that the infrastructure is aging very quickly and there is some other problems that will make this more difficult. shutdowns are required for all of our projects at the plant. on the scheduling side, we are working with the board to have this up and running by october and were working with the board to have this done. the economy is good. the contractors are busy. making sure that we have full qualified contractors that can be responsively bidding and having interest in our work and we are getting a great deal of help from external affairs and there have been training events and help people to get certified and ready to produce this. these ongoing events will be necessary so we know when our projects are coming and they can prepare and team up. staging and security is also an issue. where we can lay down and make sure that the system is secure. will be working to identify our stage security program. meaning, during our construction process, we are operating that plant. there is other work that tommy needs to have done. there are deliveries and there are now like 20 different contractors on site to. so, if we have time, there's a list. the next thing that we talk about is technology and network support. we worry so much about the system that the other parts of the plan our old two. so we can operate our plan software so they will be some it challenges in our futur stakeholder outreach to date we've had 50+ state fairs and 93 workshops we've done 200+ stores with 3500 attendees and 95 presentations +1900 ipad surveys and 4800 metro quest surveys. upcoming topics so this is how we can look forward. we have the southeast community facilities update on october 11. sip communications will be on october 25 we have a construction manager/general contractor meeting on december 13 c and we have flooding andbsip and green infrastructure monitoring in the near future. not to forget commissioner kelly is not here but we are looking to pin the workforce people down so we can complete a presentation. that completes this presentation but i'm going to stay here for another presentation but i would be happy to answer any questions. >>i like that. that is really nice. that is the kind of thing that if you don't want to take i've into the quarterly report but one suggestion that i have is that one the chart-- ton the data chart if you can just add that one so we have that on our schedule. >>great, thank you so much for the report. and then next item. >>public comment on this piece? hearing none, next item please. >>next item is item 8d; lessons learned wsip to ssip. >>good afternoon i am here to discuss the lessons learned from wsip to ssip. first i will discuss the topics that we will be going over today. we will discuss on the budgeting and contingency side we will utilize historic informationand we will apply this to the change order rates for what we can expect at least with contingency. we will be looking at what the city's economic factors are light and that enr. with contingencies when we sit with that project managers we go over there project schedules and scopes and the risk of their work and we look at the top risk to make sure that it is conservative for and asked. for instance, if it is something that works close to various risk for that project may have. the next slide is project delivery. on the top in the light blue are the phases of any typical--any project that we are running. plan, design, construction or operation. oh, that is fuzzy. let me adjust that a little bit. on the top you can see the analysis with the engineering phases. where you see a star and you can really see them on that which is good. but there is a steering committee meeting . that is when the environmental review folks come to management in the infrastructure bureau under atm and we reviewed the budget, and the status and any issues that may come up. on the bottom were looking at constructibility. we have reviews west [inaudible] we have a scope freeze, but the intent of the project is the intent of the project and the scope is the scope that point. >>let me jump in at that point. the scope freeze is usually important. lemay stefan ray here. this also takes work on part of operating department to do that in an intelligent way. we see a lot of scope freeze items come through here and if you nail it down it just saves everybody a lot of heartache. >>waste water enterprise has taken an extremely adequate amount of timesitting and looking at what are our buyouts. >>i think it is helpful to pin down operations and get everyone on the same team. also, when we are out on construction and we cover something and it is an opportunity and that is something as well. >>and, that is going to happen. if we had only spent a little more time looking at the drawings and thinking about it we could've done that or we could have gone on site and if i cansuggest if you can avoid that stuff. >>next we have availability as well as a third-party estimate. we have quality and management operations and value engineering and at the bottom you see we have cost and schedule controls and we have risk management. there is a milestone that we are including in all of our project schedules that 35%. each project has to have gone through a project risk assessment and that includes identification of risk and identification of mitigations strategies. i'm going to go through these risks when i go through the next items. wsip has special conditions and special coordinations re usinga control system where all of our customers are having the documentation and the existing information and working off of the same platform. we will also use a cmis system. the one used previously will be replaced with something called unifier. that is the same element as one we are in construction. so we're using these drawings and people are working off of the same documentation we believe that will be a big help. change management just like commissioner moran set is changing and weare going to be identifying these early as built-in in existing conditions during design to reduce changes and we will meet with operations and maintenance for a scope of occurrence at 35% and have regular check and. for trend management we will look at the schedule and budget trends and define approval process and we will look at budget dates and costs and if there is a possibility that something will change, we want to know about it. we want to talk about the risk profile and the risk mitigation strategy in those meetings as well. that is where myself and my deputy can set down with the project managers and the project control staff. bidding; we are learning from wsip from the design projects that they use. we are looking at the selected qualification that worked well on wsip.will also work with the construction manager/general manager for biosolids and headworks projects and progressive design builds for distributed control systems project others will be changed and rebuilt over the next 15 years so it has to be able to work in a very fluid situation. financing scheduling and reporting; well, there are several items on this. i mentioned we are doing a very comprehensive financial scheduling of reports. we go three monthly basis you see the quarterly basis. we have costs loaded schedules and they're all in the program called p6. we do have a monthly project review and a trend program and there is a controller led transition to upgrade financial software and in addition to replacing the famous sfpuc well all be replacing solis and then there is a lot happening on that front apparently it has to match up at the end of a fiscal year. we have several members of the puc and the launch of the new system will be peoplesoft financial system and that will be july 2017. finally, we will be doing a risk assessment looking at project specific assessments for specific risks define with those. all of the projects will be using risk management and they will all have their own risk register and that is between looking at cer at 35%. where using a program called active risk manager and there is a software version upgrade for that as well. the material quality; this is a third party for supplier quality surveillance for system. this will develop clear specifications to identify quality requirements. we send that the quality surveillance to our contractors and we work with them to identify any issues we might be seeing. and we discussed this with our contractors. for shutdown planning and management; articularly in the southeast we will have some shut down. a lot of these have shut down procedures and the shutdowns will require a specific team that are really just tracking them. shutdown is when we will be able to bring on equipment and activate certain projects. so, the detailed planning that is part of this will include construction management or our project staff as well as operations and maintenance so they will know to coordinate. they might have water quality issues or vulnerabilities that they've seen recently that may push shutdowns out. this is one's that will take detailed formalized procedures. we will take multiple projects to identify when we can benefit during those period's. this is one that keeps me up at night. hen of course, there is the communication things sometimes engineers are not so hot at communication. my deputy formulae's this as part of my regular status meeting so that we could get these to be utilized by project managers so that we can have more successful projects and this is a continuous learning experience for project managers as well as project engineers. we are trying to make an effort to over communicate this so that we can benefit from the lessers learned in wsip so that ssip can be an even more successful project. that concludes my presentation. i'd be happy to answer any questions that you may have. >>thank you very much. >>we had to really step up to a program at this level and put all lot of reliance on this is such. >>we have one project manager overseeing all things southeast. we are using the program manager for quality and for scope consistency and to review all costs and schedule issues as well. so we are following the same model as wsip as well. >>any public comments on this item? seeing none next item please. >>the next item is 8e; the review of the sewer lateral policy tommy walla. >>good afternoon commissioners tommy walla, assistant gen. manager for wastewater. we will be talking about sewer laterals. today bringing forward this item for your consideration we have learned a lot in the last three years and we have some data that we have learned from what exactly is the needs of the system and how much do we want to replace. so these are the facts and the issues and the challenges on this very first slidewe have about honor and 60,000 sewer laterals that equal about nine or miles of laterals. the average age of the sewer lateral is greater than 70 years. we have ordered that are pre-1960 with mortar connections that are more likely be compromised and we have 50,000 sidewalk trees that have been added to our city over the past 30 years. if you have a compromised lateral it is typically at the joint and the roots get inside and this is usually what happens to those laterals. they need to be either routed out--it is hard to route out something like that but normally they would compromise the joint with that particular lateral. here is a side view of a lateral. from the face of the curb to the sewer mains that you see there this is what we are responsible for. and, the other side from the curve towards the house or the residents this is what the homeowner is responsible for. this is what we learned. for the last three years as a three-year average we've spent approximately $34 million as part of our sewer main replacement. if you remember our target was 15 to 17 miles and about $34 million per year. on the top you can see about $15,000 for the lateral placement that goes from the curb to the first. and the repair and replacement of the cost that's responsible by the property owner is about $3500 for replacing the lateral. before we go to the recommendations, the other thing that i would point out is that there is a lot of unknowns that when there are certain occasions when we go out there and wetake up and we relied our laterals are not even connected to our sewers. and so, we are looking and we had some consultants go look around and we found that when they were to sell property they would mandate that the homeowner inspect the laterals. and, it was about 34% of those laterals that needed to be replaced. because, they were damaged or leaking. and so, that is something that we haven't addressed here because there are a lot of unknowns. and so, we are very concerned about that. >>how does one know that their lateral has to be replaced? >>so for example, if it is clogged that is when the tree roots get in there and the they clog it and that's when the tree rootsare to the curb that is when we would urge the lower lateral and see if there is a problem or not. if her example their roots in there and they can't, you know, you know find some way to get out the roots they would have to go in and placed the lower lateral and that is when the homeowner is responsible. typically, if this letter were is clogged then we have to say wait, you're responsible for the upper and we are responsible for the lower, and it's not always clear to everyone whose responsibility it is. but, that's if it is clogged. sometimes were seeing the flow is running because what happens is, as the roots get in there and they start looking and they start deteriorating or they have a lot of material surrounding material going into the pipe and so, you start seeing a void around the pipe. and then, it disconnects and you have a septic type of situation that we notice sometimes. and so, that is why we think it is very important that we inspect these laterals quite frequently. as far as the delineation of responsibility at the curb that exists by virtue of ordinance or what? >>1977 was the first time that we actually started charging residents for sewer rates. and so, as part of that, because it's in the right away underneath the street, we didn't want the homeowners to come and actually start digging up the street to fix the laterals so the fee while, it is a little bit complicated, while the homeowner is responsible for the maintenance of the entire lateral from their house all the way to the main, they cannot come and do any repairs past the curb. so, they stay on their side. and, if we discovered or they discover it then we go and repair or replace up to the curb. >>so you say there is a prohibition of the homeowner going into the street basically;is that a function of our policy were our rates or something?what establishes that? >>i'm not really sure. >>maybe josh would know. >>hello josh--i do not know off the top of my head but i'm sure i can find that out for you get back to you on that. >>thank you. that is why we made the policy and in the absence of policy would be guided by something, by ordinance or rate, or something, and so, it is important to know what that is. >>so, if we go into the street, do we pay for it and not the homeowner or the property owner? >>we pay for it.beyond the curb, whoever discovers it, we will cover it beyond the curb. >> any construction required in the street we are responsible for. so, that is sort of the interpretation that we have been having. one of the things that we want to look at is do we want to change that because it is really confusing? i know that in berkeley, berkeley is the home bilateral than the home is responsible for it. so we need to think about how to address these issues.i would like more frequent inspections of these lines because we have so many old sewers going up and down the streets but there are a lot of laterals and you have a new development and you have a lot of stuff going on and folks are not even looking at their laterals. they are not even upgrading because they're building a bigger house or becoming more dense in the city. so that is why i really feel we need to talk about one, the ownership, and to the recommendations that would go along with what were recommending. >>sure. we had a lot of cities like ours both for combined systems and separate systems and a lot of cities are charging for lateral separately. so, this is the recommendation. to consider a couple of them, one is an insurance program so to speak and one is that when you buy your house just like at the point-of-sale just look at that like you what a past inspection warehouse inspection. they will look at that as well. some of these things are what other cities are doing. a lot of these are just to avoid their inflow from groundwater to the flow of the system. they are forced to do some of these programs and put them in place. >>i am curious about whether the people that come and cure the line is a maintenance issue and if the issue gets out of the box or whatever you call it by the curb do they know the responsibility chefs? it is pretty confusing. >>i had some personal experience with that. >>me too!. >>the first was that i had some backup from storm events and also was we had some back up into the yard and i called the router people and they diagnosed everything up to the curb and they pointed out that there were problems beyond the curb and they were clear that was the city's responsibility and they told me that. they also said if you want to get it done today we would be glad to do it for you. so, there's some of that going on. but they were very clear about it. at least that was my experience with it was that they were very clear about it. >>yes, that is one of my concerns as did make sure that the contractors and providers of that service are clear as well. and my other concern is to the homeowners as well. it does end up being a curb issue and not a maintenance issue and the potential contractor is there saying, i will fix it for you and it will cause you xyz when it is not the responsibility of the city. >>i don't want to add more complexity but i will, but a lot of the street trees will be contributing to that. now we are leaning towards making all of the trees be the responsibility not to the homeowners but to the city. there a lot of things that people just don't realize like the sidewalks. there is a responsibility the property owners to maintain and people know that until p pw or pw go up there and they say you are responsible for maintaining it. i don't want the program to be that confusing and that's why we want to spend a little bit of time and talk about how we can make it simple but also keep in mind that we are raising sewer rates and do we want to give this additional responsibility to the homeowners that responsibility in this new rates. this ties into the rates. we don't want to raise the rates and then there by the way you're responsible for all of the rates that we used to be responsible for. that is important as we look at this from the big picture. >>inspection point-of-sale is an interesting one. now, i am in a situation and i do not know how often this happens, but my laterals connected to my neighbors lateral. so, when mine backs up, when mine backed up the was a question as to whose responsibility that was in luckily we got along butnow that houses selling and i said, you better check your lateral because something might happen what they might do it because they're nice but what might end up happening is a dispute around responsibility. so, i don't know if there are shared lateral questions too? >>right now, every building should have their own lateral but what happens is sometimes if a sewer is so deep that you have to chase the grade. sometimes, it can be so deep you have to go uphill to catch instead of digging way down so sometimes you might have three or four laterals just tie into cheese from the same spot. and so, we have seen a lot of stuff that we probably wouldn't have come up with. >>that is why we want to study it and do an rfp and get an idea but one way that we could do this is if you make sure that at the point of sale that it is inspected for any major renovation, that should trigger an inspection that may not have been inspected for before and then require an insurance program that they pay in that could be a win/win for everybody. >>okay, i'm going to pause for this moment. i don't know if you have completed but we have a 3 o'clock--my clock is actually slow. >>we have exactly 30 seconds. >>and without objection, it is a special order of business so we are going to be calling item number 10 and then we will ask tommy to come back up after that and finishes presentation.so commission secretary can you please call item number 10. >>item 10 is a special order of business at 3 pm.public hearing 2016 public health goal report 2016 public health goal report for the public water system and to state a letter for the resources control board documenting that such a hearing has been held. >>thank you. good afternoon. >>good afternoon robert bosco the public water director.. today we will discuss the public health goals and the ideal, no adverse health effect intimate levels in drinking water. and, we will discuss the legal requirements and then we were asked for public comment on the report and submit the report to you. first we will have to consider cost and have to consider technology. so, you will set the regulatory standard at the level that you can actually detect that is in a minute.we are in compliance with all of the regulatory requirements for the past year. there are four contaminants where we exceeded the public health goal and that was the sonil plant. for the chromium the regulatory requirement was 10 so that is above the public health goal. again, very costly to reach the public health goal level. lead is something where we did see some results above the public health goal. to do our lead and copper every three years the last was two years and most were non-detect and some are a home plumbing issue. finally, are the coliforms. technically we will not get there. typically we do not see a coliform bacteria typically this is not a health concern that we see. our recommended follow-up is that we continue with our existing programs that we minimize contamination of the sources. we keep looking at treatment chemicals to make sure there is not unnecessary contaminants in our treatment panels. we disinfect the mains before he put them back in service for example. and we continue to work on our lead abatement activities. and we continue with ongoing lead outreach activities. in early 2000 the standards changed in 2010 and we will have all of those that are currently leadfree. we have all the comparable data on the website for the public to see historically. we also have specialized programs working with the housing authority for residents with low income housing we provided the monitoring for free to participants of the wic program which is women infants children for; women infants or children --there are a few holes in the records that we are missing but we are making sure that we do not know the material of the services that we figure out what that is. i think the commission is very practical and we will continue to push for that. again are recommendations are to continue with what we are doing them follow up with activities and we are requesting your direction to submit a letter to the water control board as well. thank you. commissioner? >> on the lead issue, i want to concentrate on that because i think there are number of people that have concerns about the level of lead in the water supply may not altogether trust their water supplier, that there are some issues they are but as a resident what can i do to let myself know, first of all, what lead exposure there is and what can i do about it and it sounds like there are a lot of circumstances and it may be a complicated question but that is why i ask it. >>first of all, you would get a test and we do that at a very comparable price we been doing that since 1994. we would come to your house and pick up a sample and that would be the first thing >>how do you get that? >>on our website we have the form you would fill it out and submitted and we would come and do that for you. >> there are a number of people that do watch these proceedings so if you get back to us for subsequent meetings, if you can't get back to us with the phone number for if all else fails,and you have your internet failthen you can call that number.650-652-6500. finally, we have lead removal services that can come in and that we also have of in the 70s had removal of lead service lines. again, we had a program offering leadfree faucets at a nominal fee. and again, we offer testing for certain customers for free. we are thinking about expanding it. we have a number programs are things we can do better but we are looking into that. >>do we have coverage for people that are not homeowners that would like to have their water tested? >>anybody causes up we will test for that.and steve also mentioned the fact that the grand jury spent a lot of time with us over the last couple months and they liked what we were doing and they did not have a problem with what we were doing there were quite complementary in termsof what we are doing. >> i just know that we have a lot of concerned individuals and it be nice let them know what to do when they have these concerns. >>again, they can go on the website or give us a call and we will come into that for them. >>before a motion i just see one comment card they are and if there any other public comment cards on this item. >>good afternoon commissioners and general manager kelly i am with the san francisco --authority, and in the past we have only done testing required by residence or if we had an elevated blood level in a child we would immediately test and fortunately, those tests have come back negatively in the past. but we really welcome this partnership to do some testing at sunnydale. that is one of our largest properties and it had over 225 units. we work together and agreed to target the households with children age 7 or younger. puc agreed to do the testing at no charge for residents. we put together a flyer for the residents we actually put together or a letter for the households of residents with children under seven including the bottle and the kids and instructions on how to use the testing kit. puc trained our staff one how to answer questions that may come upbout the testing. only four of those households only brought bottles back for testing.we were with a letter for the residents and we also wrote a letter on how to respond any positive test that indicated a level of lead above acceptable standards, and so, we have such a small sample that we really cannot make conclusions about the water at sunnydale.and so, actually this evening, there is another rresidents meeting and there is a site getting ready to be rebuilt and it is a hope sf site and tonight the residents are coming to--and generally we have a good turnout, and we were out reached to the residence and encourage them to sample. i think that it sounds that the puc is willing and the staff is willing to do this at other properties. we have the other large properties that are potrero properties [timer dings] i think my time is up but i wanted to thank all of you and general manager kelly and his staff are really helping out and just providing our residents with an opportunity to have the water tested and assurances that the water quality is safe for their children. thank you. >>thank you i appreciate you coming out today and if you would like additional testing, please let the staff know at your other site. >>thank you commissioner. >>thank you very much. any other public comments? third time. hearing non-, is there a motion to approve the resolution? >>so moved. >>seconded. >>any further comments? all those in favor say, aye. opposed, nay >> >> [chorus of ayes] >>the motion is approved unanimously thank you very much. now we can go back to our sewer lateral conversation >>thank you. >>i have a comment before you start. when i bought my house in san francisco i was the youngest thing on my street, in now, in 2016 there is only one thing older than me on my street and that is my lateral. >>let's just hope it is an as good a shape as you are. >>[laughing] >>i don't really know what to say about that.but so you know it's not just about blocking the laterals it is about things that are complicating that.we are not doing anything outside of the norm and i think should at least explore the possibility. they all had you had mentioned the significance and importance of outreach. they all said how important that peace was. it is very important and we will make sure that we do outreach as part of this conversation. >>as part of the program, do you have inspectors on staff or is that something that you contract out? >>no, we have inspectors. so commissioner caen asked, "how do you know what if your lateral is leaking?" it is difficult to know. if we replace a main or someone calls and the responses to go into a house or go into a manhole across the street and look at the direction that this may be compromised in some way before they get this out. typically, it will be something like mine or yours. where something is happening outside of my house and the plumber are rejected and the plumber says i'm clear all the way to the trap and that's when we do our follow-up and we look at our main and that is the time that we look inside all the laterals. also, when they do a replacement, they have to look and televise for the record that the laterals are good after construction. so, that is part of the record-keeping. >>part of my question on staffing and it is connected to the outreach piece,and a person might think they should call a plumber and then they might think to call a inspector from the city. >>they are not called inspectors but they are sewage servicers so we would come out and see. >>there is a form on our website that you would fill out and would say what is the problem do you have something coming out of the house or is it a trap or what have you. this discussion i think has been helpful with the issues on how this relates to rate decisions, and in some ways you can look at this as a financial issue. there is a burden of replacing the lower laterals and how do you finance that and who pays and in two will finance that and that is a big deal and we need to figure out how to approach that and how that fits into the rates and stuff and the program in general. the other thing that we have not talked about much and we have talked about a but not that much lately is the patrol of the street. we do not want people coming in and cutting into the street. we want to prevent that. if i do have to have an inspection on my house for sale, then i have to curate. i don't know if you want to give me that right. it is a complicated issue and i think it takes time to make sure that we get it right. >>the other point that i want to highlight is that now, we do not know what we know. i mean we don't know-- >>what we know-- >> we don't have the information and now we have a lot a laterals that are leaking on that side. >>so are you recommending they do an inspection? >>not now but eventually. >>well, that is where you get the potholes and uneven payment and stuff like that. >>so the next step is that you will be developing some policy recommendations? >>i think we talked about doing an rfp and bringing a company that does this in, and come back with several options as to how we might want to move forward. >>so will that be a couple months or several months? >>i don't know what the timeline that will take with this process once we move forward i'm sure the investigation will be very thorough and i am not sure how long that will take. >>i would say we will probably put out an rfp within the next 30 days and then you know, bring someone on and maybe take three months to bring someone on and get them familiar with the department in our city and i would say about six months. >>yeah. >> okay thank you very much. any public comment on this item? seeing none, next item please. >>we are still on my report. >>i'm sorry. >>the next item is the quarterly audit and finance review and we have anthony coming up. >>good afternoon my name is anthony holmes and [inaudible] information is provided fiscal year to date as well as the fiscal year account of all projects. the audits and assessments completed 58 projects year to date and 27 were completed 20 or in process and there are 11 upcoming. a post audit was completed and there were no significant financial transactions and the city service auditor also published a citywide contractual compliance. three recommendations were made to improve timeline transactions with that sfp. the california state department of finance completed to 2 grant administration audits $185,000[inaudible]and lastly completed a compliance audit for the new clean renewable energy bonds and debt arbitrage compliance as well. looking at quarter one and beyond in the current fiscal year we anticipate a few completions upcoming. one of the first will be the performance audits for the wastewater enterprise and also an administrative performance cited for rebates and incentives. and, some notable audits in progress include the audited financial statements for the prior fiscal year and the annual physical associated inventory counts and also the cash receipts and revenue internal controls. as part of our open project recommendationsi'm happy to say that we have closed 78% prior-year recommendations and 44% of outstanding audits and what thattranslates to is that 129 recommendations were completed out of hundred and 65 and four out of nine incomplete audits. and this was a result of the implication program that we implementedearlier this year and that actively manage the open audit recommendations. that concludes my report and i will be happy to answer any questions you may have for me. >>thank you.any questions? any public comment? seeing none. next item please. >>the next item would be 8g; the annual capital financing report. >>good afternoon i have a very short presentation here on our capital financing plan. my name is eric sandler and i am with the business services. essentially, we have a number of items coming before you every fiscal year related to financing. i thought that would be helpful rather than counting each one of these off is to give you an overview of the activity we will be planning this year so that when it comes to you we have some contacts for understanding it. we actually have three items on the calendar today so it is fairly timely. let's see, in terms of an overview of our debt management and administration, we have a very large outstanding debt issuance. both with water, wastewater and the growing need for power. we have used all the financing and capital investment to date and we have inventory of the planned debt issuances in our capital plans that we review annually. we have debt management and policies and procedures and we review these annually and internally and we provide any recommended updates to you as least annually or as necessary. the activities are overseen by the oversight committee which is established with the presumed property in 2002 and an overview which will be provided early in the spring. and then finally, the annual capital financing plan upcoming financing activity. so first we have the summary of the enterprise debt programs and you can see the first three lines of outstanding debt relates to fixed rate debt most is in revenue bonds. we have about 4 billion outstanding for water and 1 million for waste water and then we have about 40 million for power. and then you will see that we have programs to fund our capital investment activities on a day-to-day basis and then take out that funding with long-term funding. we also have here the long-term and short-term ratings of the various enterprises. the short-term ratings are of the highest short-term ratings of the rating agencies and the long-term's are all in the double except for our power rating from standard imports which are all in the aa category. >>what made you go up in wastewater? >>in wastewater, we were upgraded and we went to do our long-term financing in the spring. we were upgraded by the imports and they said that with the service area and the financials and basically they had essentially done an update of the reading criteria which resulted in an upgrade for us. >>good. >>that is short answer. >>so we have essentially three types of activities or transactions or actions coming before you to authorize. one category relates to market opportunities similar to what you think of when you manage your long-term mortgage for example. a lot of outstanding debt and a lot of different opportunities. interest goes up and down a lot of our debt is callable which means you can finance it at no penalty and you can issue funding bonds and realize that service is for customers right there. and so, we have a lot of activity related to financing. in addition to that we have administration of our existing portfolio and that really relates to and is focused on our commercial programs and the liquidity agreements that are required to manage those programs that require regular renewal or replacement. we also have new money needs. and so, that relates to our future capital financing expenditures and from time to time long-term fixed rate debt. here is a summary. this is a summary table that we will be showing you throughout the year each time that we come forward with the transaction and show you how are getting through the work here. the various transactions we contemplate over the next year. you can see the description on the left and the approximate issue size and the date we plan on coming to the commission and the first date is today and then i'm finally our issuance date. if you have any questions i will be happy to answer any questions that you may have. i know that we have a very long meeting your i would be happy to answer any questions that you may have. we have three basically for you today and the first is to authorize credit agreements to replace debt funded agreements to a water enterprise and the second is the issuance of up to $1.1 billion of 2016 series ab water revenue refunding bonds and the third is the issuance of up to 295 million of the 2016 series c new money taxable water revenue bonds. we have some upcoming we have an srf loan and grant for waterenterprise project. the second is the new money wastewater bonds and a possible increase of wastewater cb authorization and renewal or replacement of the sixth cp bank credit facilities. that concludes my presentation i would be happy to answer any questions you may have. >>any questions? commissioner caen, i see you studying that very carefully. >>these are all new? >>in terms of? >>the bonds. >>we will be issuing new refunding bonds, exactly. >>okay, i think for now that is good. >>okay. >>we will see you again soon i think. >>okay think you. >>next item. o, i am sorry public comment? hearing none. >>that concludes my report. >>now we will move on to the consent calendar so if you would mind commission secretary would you read the consent calendar. >>item 9 is the consent calendar.all matters listed hereunder constitute a consent calendar, are considered to be routine by the san francisco public utilities commission, and will be acted upon by a single vote of the commission. there will be no separate discussion of these items unless a member of the commission or the public so requests, in which event the matter will be removed from the calendar and considered as a separate item.a) approve an increase in the existing construction contract cost contingency in the amount of $428,650, for contract no. hh-981,and authorize future modifications for the contract.b) award job order contract no. 63, general building (b-license) for san francisco, san mateo, santa clara and alameda counties, for a not-to-exceed amount of $5,000,000 to the lowest, qualified, responsible, and responsive bidder, angotti & reilly, inc., c) award job order contract no. 64, general building (b-license) for san francisco, san mateo, santa clara and alameda counties, for a not-to-exceed amount of $5,000,000 to the lowest, qualified, responsible, and responsive bidder, rubecon builders, inc., d) approve the selection of bottom line utility solutions; award agreement no. pro.0049, high efficiency toilet direct install program, to provide program coordination and of replacement of inefficient toilets, urinals and other plumbing devices with high-efficiency models for residential, commercial and institutional customers in the sfpuc's retail service area; authorize the general manager to negotiate and execute a professional services agreement with bottom line utility solutions for an amount not-to-exceed $4,000,000, and with a duration of four years. e) accept work performed by m squared construction, inc., for contract no. wd-2506, 8-inch ductile iron pipe main installation on clement street from arguello boulevard to 14th avenue; arguello boulevard from lake street to geary boulevard; approve modification no. 2 (final), decreasing the contract amount by $401,506 for a total contract amount of $2,721,409, with a total contract duration of 405 consecutive calendar days (approximately one year and one month); and authorize final payment to the contractor. f) accept work performed by precision engineering, inc., for contract no. ww-583, as-needed main sewer replacement; approve modification no. 1 (final), decreasing the not-to-exceed contract amount by $876,724, for a total contract amount of $2,657,376, with a time extension of 183 consecutive calendar days (approximately seven months), for a total contract duration of 578 consecutive calendar days (approximately one year and seven months); and authorize final payment to the contractor.g) accept work performed by shaw pipeline, inc., for contract no. ww-595, 3rd/7th/8th/25th/33rd/42nd avenues and baker/welsh streets sewer replacement; approve modification no. 3 (final), increasing the contract by $355,598, for a total contract amount of $4,118,202, with a time extension of 54 consecutive calendar days (approximately two months), for a total contract duration of 418 consecutive calendar days (approximately one year and two months); and authorize final payment to the contractor. h) approve the plans and specifications and award contract no. ww-621r, as-needed main sewer replacement no. 6, for a total contract amount not-to-exceed $10,787,800, to the lowest, qualified, responsible and responsive bidder, precision engineering, inc., i) authorize the general manager to adopt and make permanent rules and regulations to implement article 12a of the san francisco health code. >>thank you very much. is there a request to remove anything from the consent calendar? hearing none, is there a motion to approve the consent calendar? >>so moved. >>is there a second? >>second. >>any public comments on the consent calendar? hearing none. all those in favor say, aye. opposed, nay the consent calendar passes. and next item please. >> item 11 is a workshop: discussion regarding the integration of gosolarsf with cleanpowersf. >>good afternoon commissioners. so, commissioner moran has asked us several times how we will integrate gosolarsf with cleanpowersf.most of the informational privacy today will be with gosolarsf i think you are pretty up-to-date one cleanpowersf.and then i will discuss the common policy goals and the backgrounds objectives and eligibility and impacts and also the proposed program changes and how we will go about implementing those changes. by way of background the idea of needing to integrate go solar sf and cleanpowersf was on the table at the inception of the gosolarsf program and this was in 2008 when we did not have the program yet but we were talking about the integration of the program so what i have on the slide is what the enabling legislation directed us to do. and then the final clause 18.6 directs the sfpuc to coordinate administration of the program with the implementation and administration of cca to maximize the program. so the first would be encouraging installations of solar power systems in san francisco to increase the installed systems and also to provide jobs to disagreements san franciscans this has a lot of information on it but i am happy to say that all three types of customers in san francisco are eligible for gosolarsf incentive payment so what you can see here is since its inception that five of our puc customersare all hetch hetchy customers have received go solar sf incentive payments and the balance of them have been paid out to noncustomers for a total installation of just over $4000. the total megawatts installed first solar in san francisco is 30.7 mw. that is largely the go solar sf contribution at 14.3 and then we have the municipal roots at 7.4 and 8.5 mw of others. so the 14.3 mw installed through the go solarsf programs were installed largely on the noncustomers. we are a year into the shift of the job component of the go solar sf program. it is now moving for all participating installers. that is the change underway under the direction of the economic and workforce development. the program started in 2007 and you can see on this slide of where the breakdown is and where those dollars went for residential low income, residential, business, nonprofit, and nonprofit residential, and this is since 2008. basically thethrough 2015 and the key here is that the cost is really been dropping. the incentives themselves have come down and you can see kind of in a chunky way we produce the incentives over time. that is showing an average system size of 2.5 kw. and then, the next column shows the state incentives paid to that same average size 2.5 kw system and what the overall net cost will be the out-of-pocket cost for customer. that doesn't count for the tax credit. but, that the total out-of-pocket cost. as you can see the cost of been dropping substantially over time. you can also see the state incentives have went in san francisco down to zero in the pgf service territory. on this slide you can see that gosolarsfaffects a lot of projects but not all of them. on this side you can see how many kilowatts was installedfor this year and the red boxes are the total amount of dollars that have been put out and that is affiliated with the numbers on the right side that is the amount in millions of dollars. you can see that redline has declined where the budget in more recent years has actually increased from 2 million to 5 million. the kilowatts installed remained high. over 2000 kw per year. on the next slide you can see the total that are impacted by pg&e and on the left side you can see the payouts on this you see this more so in the recent years and the participation of the installers is what you see here with the installers this has been very good in the beginning especially with the market share. it is happening in a general market context. california puc took a look at the incentive programs that it has been running in 2015. it summarized here are the results of that i think it's important to realize that the california public utility commission achieved its goal of widespread adoption on a self-sustaining market. we also took a look at what was happening with our public owned utility patriots. that's what we are showing on this slide. all of the programs that we have showed on the bay area and this area as well. or, they fully subscribe so they are not available to customers. we took specific rebates and incentives for solar programs. they are declining and going to zero. the stabilizing factor i mentioned earlier that is the tax credit. the tax credit, the 30% federal tax credit has been extended and the cpuc pass favorable net energy metering terms for customers installing solar in their homes. we had a series of meetings and those are noted here. and, we got some feedback and answer questions. now, for the proposed changes. we propose to integrate the cleanpowersf and gosolarsf pprogram and we have by going through enrollment period have signed up tto be a cleanpowersf customer or go solarsf customer in waiting or you're already a cleanpowersf program.with emphasis on becoming a super green cleanpowersf customer. and not only that but we establish metering rates and terms for our customers. the commission went ahead and established them earlier this year. but in addition super green customers would receive the highest rate because they are paying the highest rate so you have an added incentive if you will because of the energy that you generate from your solar system that spills to the grid. we are also proposing to continue to foster program stability by simplifying the go solar sf incentives to one dollar per kilowatt instead of a complex table that we currently have. we are proposing to step down all of the incentives to reflect the lower cost of the solar that we saw. it is time to recognize that is cheaper to install solar today and we should just our incentive programs down as a result. we are proposing to step incentive payments down for customers by small increments. predictability is important for the stakeholder community so having a casual step down is helpful. we propose a step down of $100 per kilowatt this year. we are really strengthening support for low income residents. we think that is an important focus area for us. the state of california does this for their low income customers and we intend to do the same. the additional support we would propose for low income customers would be to develop an inverter replacement program. the solar installation community was very good at getting out to low income households in san francisco when the program first started. so we have a lot of systems for low income roofs. as that system would age the first thing that will go as the inverters. we are anticipating that some of those low income households will need help addressing the inverter issues and we would like to propose changes to the program that would allow some incentives for that component of the program as well. >>let me ask you some questions. >>sure. >>i have heard that some of those older homes are not strong enough to hold the weight. how do we get them to strengthen the structure itself to accommodate that? >>we have not ent as far as to help the low income residents to improve their housing but we encourage they contact the mayors office of housing they offer assistance for those sorts of things and that can be a big cost for individuals that live in san francisco said the mayor's office of housingword definitely provide assistance for those who want to do that and need those components. finally, there are some technology changes that we would like to consider incentivizing. we would like to develop complementary distributed energy programs perhaps for energy storages or for electric vehicle or vehicle to grid technologies.we would like to have the abilities to make those kind of administrative changes with the changes that we are making and proposing to the board of supervisors. because, that is what we will have to do next. in order to do any changes at the magnitude that we are talking about, we need to go to the board of supervisors and get the underlying legislation change so we have the authority. and so, we are proposing is part of the next steps to work with the city attorney to finalize ordinance changes and come back to you in october with what those particulars are and we would be on a schedule then and we would meet with the board in the latter part of this year and hopefully be in a position to be able to implement the changes in january 2017. and so, the next gosolarsf year we would like to implement those changes. that is the end of my presentation i'm happy to answer any questions. >> on the net energy metering are those rates currently in force? did we adopt them at some point? >>yes, you adopted them. i have them in my notebook and they are accessible on the website. >>in terms of people knowing that piece of the pie, as to the weather they know what those numbers are. >>yes. >> one thing that i would like to see is the question of benefits i would love to get that when we are presented with the actual resolutions and understand that so we can be the ambassadors and have our talking points on why this makes sense. >>obviously, that would be different for the consumers and the board of supervisors. i think for the board one of the issues is how you make cleanpowersf as competitive as you can and having that type of program is a clean power exclusive i think is important and i expect to be important to the board. >>yes and even appointments like that even with the audience could we accelerate some of our goals with clean power and solar by combining them with either jobs are projections or renewables. then, potentially we could procure additional energy more quickly. i don't know if there's anything in there that we could lift up. >>i think one of the things that was brought up at the stakeholders meeting was the fact that they want us to be cautious because of super green will satisfy another percent of gas free energy and then the reluctance e of adding solar on top of that and we could get some education on that if you have a moment? >>we have some bill analysis for folks that are considering solar on their roof and we were able to demonstrate that for them, if we put solar owner with combined with our super green product they actually save money overall quite substantially and it was important for them to combine the steps and super green presentation. we did hear from some of the super green meetings a nervousness of is super green combined with that product. i certainly can show some examples of that in our presentation when we come back. >>thank you. appreciate that. that be great. >>super green is still great from a carbon standpoint if i want to reduce my bill than the solar part helps. >>right. and the net energy meeting piece of that contributes to that. >>any other questions? any public comment on this? thank you. >>hi, jason fried executive officer for lascaux and i will just try to highlight these very quickly i just think we should very seriously belooking at gosolar shere's fno reason we should be getting to those who are staying with pg&e and i think that you will slowly slip away from seeing anyone whois not a low income customer getting those funds but if you're not a low income you should be about super green price. the little bit left of electricity that you might by you still would need to have solar on your roof. we should be creating a sister program for energy efficiency and e vehicles and several types of programs that are similar to gosolarsf and get people trained on how you get trained on this type of energy and i think without having it come from the power enterprises budget itselfyou could be looking at money from the state and there are funds you could apply for and i guess those funds you can get on the federal level. i don't know. i haven't looked on the federal side but if you guys got really creative you could work with the other programs and they cut gets you not only to solar panels but all of these other angles and now youhave all this affordable energy from all these different places and now we don't have jobs coming from one different place but from three different places. from years ago, we know who they are and they should be an easy sell. the harder part for them is it's going to be a matter of them being used to a smaller bill by now but hopefully a lot of those customers should be in the super green thing and you get all of your energy from 100% renewable and you can do those things on your inside encourage you to move forward with gosolarsfand [timer dings]support this program. >>thank you.next speaker please >>hican you please introduce yourself? >>through go solar sf we have managed to grow the careers of a lot of individuals. 50% of our crew leads our workforce development and recently our first gosolarsf workforce development higher the came through door andwere able to buy a home with gosolarsf. so now the state is saying that we need a better and more robust low income component in san francisco was already on the end guard so you guys are already ahead of the game and it is fun to see people playing catch-up to where san francisco is. i support cleanpowersf and integrating gosolarsf into it. i have concerns that the bill savings savings anticipated are actually accurate. i would like to see some data. that i would like for us to look at and see if that is going to be an impediment to future adoption and to people actually being able to really realize the savings that they expected that they would. so, that would be something that i would like to look at. in terms of distributed generation and resiliency of the city adding storage for battery backup power is very smart. we saw and hurricane sandy [timer dings] we saw the few people that had power that the few people that had generators can use their generators because they couldn't get diesel in. it was the few people that had solar and had battery backup. that is an important thing for us to think about when we think about resiliency in the city and distributed energy power and the ability to have power when [timer dings] the inevitable hurricane happens. >>thank you. i was glad to see that up there and i'm glad that you are tracking that diligently. any other comments on this item? commissioners, hearing none. we look forward to october when we hear more. thank you very much. next item please. >>item 12 is to adapt the management policies and procedures of the san francisco public utilities commission. >>eric sandler, cfo and assistant gen. manager of business services. this item relates to what i referred to previously the management policies and procedures of the commission which guide all of our activities. we establish the policy were talking about some amendments to the policy. we established in march 2004 and updated it regularly since then. the debt management policies and procedures are consistent with gfoa the government finance officers association's best practice and it covers the types of debt that we issue and the alteration and approval process andi will also go over the disclosure issues and we have a list of items here. there aremultiple benefits regarding the types and purposes of the policy and multiple benefits for the staff in this process. in this review we are recommending ascension only three types of revisions to the policy it relates to the board of supervisors authorization and the disclosure practices and the refunding criteria. when we first started this process we sought debt authorization through the board of supervisors and the commission delegation of transactions at the time of capital appropriation is approved every two years. and so, that is a recommendation here. and that, it would delegate to the commission the authority to

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