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His acting career also includes performances of various characters and scenarios in more than $35.00 movies t.v. Shows and documentaries his investigative reports have been published in such diverse venue's as haunted Times Magazine Tennessee anthropologist and the on line Jura Journal para anthropology he was a university professor in Mexico for 11 years Mary Bakker Also joining us on the show is the co-director in researcher for Ghost excavations aka interpretive performance excavations and Mary creates the presentations for John Sable speaking engagements including producing and editing the short film Ghost excavation at Burnside Bridge going home after seeing the elephant welcome to coast to coast am John sable and Mary Becker thank you for joining us this evening they are you doing Hi Kay thank you it's a pleasure to have you join us here I mean I know I had a chance to chat with you on our show about 4 years ago and it's really stuck with me the ideas behind what you do and your investigative to. Meek's which I think are fascinating and I'm surprised more people have not adopted the policies you guys involve yourselves in when you investigate John let's start off with your oh quickly give me a little bit of background what drew your interest to the paranormal side of. This kind of research in archaeology if you will. Well I grew up in the northeastern Pennsylvania at a time when the and just like coal boom it had become a bust so I used to play around and all these derelict. Abandoned structures a breaker called very curious call of reason and how coal mines and created a lot of. Opportunities to imagine exactly what's going on but what went on there because I never experienced it firsthand but I mean look I mean like about 2 miles from my hometown was the largest coal breaker in the world it's still in existence today it's one big room it's a lot I was 11 stories high and we would go in there just recently we went in there . Year or 2 ago and we go in there and just me and met me and made me and Mary we went up to the to all the 11 floors and we were still getting results will energies we recorded a lot of sounds related to the technology of that time of the cold breaker we were getting audio of a machine still working we even got voice recordings of people at work so that kind of really the whole ambience of the the coal region in its final stages of destruction and and ruin kind of it's inspired me to get into archaeology and when I was right in my hometown it's very ethnically diverse so every summer we used to have all of these different festivals the Irish the Italians and the the small block the polish the list the weighing in the Greek all these different cultures intermixed in the summertime where we would have different festival so that sparked my interest and also an anthropology there is the basis for anthropology in archaeology and. In a lot of the place. That I live that I've had some experience through that kind of really. Thinking about what's really going on is there really a presence of the past that still exists especially in audio present so my focus on Ghost excavations has been on audio that survives from the past sounds that lift over the soundings of contemporary noisy contemporary sounds like still exist in specific environment that's been my focus for a for a long time now and Mary What drew you to want to experience and explore the paranormal world. Probably just always having an interest in ghosts. And I was probably like the same old story it happened when I was younger and I would see my grandmother who had recently passed now I was like 2 and a half 3 years old when she passed and my parents were as I grew older. Figure it because they. Didn't want me to be scared so then they would start telling me stories like I would tell in detail say Oh grandmamma is right here and this is what she looks like and I describe or describe in detail her clothing and whatever but then just other things kept me interested in our house even though it was built in 1962 I don't quite understand and unfortunately the house is not in our family anymore. Almost every evening I would hear footsteps going up and down the stairwell going from the basement to what was our kitchen and I don't understand it apparently my father would hear it as well and my mother I have 3 brothers not one of them ever heard. Only on my dad mom and I So that just sort of piqued my interest and just continued on from there. John I think what was so fascinating to me with the work that you were doing as well as the fact that you're marrying your 3 passions right archaeology anthropology and acting all together or the kind of research and study that you do and that really intrigued me in that work now you know one thing when you're not Jala just you go to a site you dig it up and you can find proof of this race or this. Group that existed at this point in an anthropology it's a study of the history of these different people in end times and there's proof that this exists but dealing with the spirit realm dealing with the paranormal it can be very frustrating aspect right because we don't have something we can put our hands on and show a definitive picture or proof that the paranormal exists how frustrating is that for you as a researcher well from for me it's not very very frustrating because on the last 7 years in a row now I've spoken at the theoretical archaeology group conferences and every year from that very 1st they're back in Berkeley and 6 years ago to do this you will be co-hosting a session on University of Toronto in Toronto Canada each year I see little by little archaeology is moving closer and closer and closer to the reality that there are multiple paths in the present and the traditional way of doing archaeology has changed tremendously from the time that I 1st started doing archaeology in 1969 I see more and more people becoming a tomb to especially since sensory perceptions from the past and I get more feedback more positive feedback I have not getting I've not got any negative feedback at any rate and I usually speak 2 or 3 times per for conferences in the last 6 years at the theoretical archaeology group offices which are you know based on the theory. The new theory and it varies and in archaeology and more and more I get positive feedback about what I'm trying to do but if I go to a paranormal conference I get really kind of shouted down saying you know you don't know what you're talking about what does archaeology have to do with this you know you mean you don't do this you mean you don't do you don't use the ghost Technology has no no I don't because you do that's not being content specific to the particular presences in the past that's why I manage these 3 idea of as an archaeologist I used I used to dig through layers of dirt layers of earth but as a guest excavator I go down to different layers of memory focusing focusing on particular layers of memory in a particular place I go down to that 11 particular layer of memory as the archaeologist as the anthropologist I design scenarios or storyboards about Ok What was the behavior of that time period what scenarios would be context specific that if present still exists from that time they would identify with the behavior I am now performing through the scenarios and as the actor I am earth myself in a particular character from that time period using clothing using vocabulary using audio cues anything I can think of that would directly relate to that the peculiar layer of memory the whole thing for me is the have this bundle of experience memory and remembrance so I try not to do anything that does that would disrupt. The possible interactive presence of the past I use things that these people in the past of the cuter layer of presidents how did sparing Ince so it would be part of their memory and if not my doing it it would it would provoke a remembrance on their part and they would react directly to what I'm trying to do you know I I've looked at the different aspects of the paranormal and over 12 years I've talked about the fact how my perspective on what a haunting is has shifted considerably and. When we spoke 4 years ago and we were talking about these locations like Antietam that you would go visit or Gettysburg or or this or that what i Phone was so fascinating and you kind of impressed this idea on me is that that every location. I look at is like a book right there it's been there this location has been there since the beginning of time will be there till the end of time the top cover is the end of time the bottom covers the beginning of time and all of these layers co-exist in the same spot they share this same area in time and space Yes Well yes they exist simultaneously the contemporary reality is a conglomeration of fragments traces partial racial ratios of multiple past in the present so what it is is a power saw that some things get if you resonate with what occurred in the past you don't a race what occurred in the past but if you don't resonate with what occurred in the past you create a new layer of memory which suppresses what happened in the past so if you're out there doing things that are not content to look what happened in a particular place at a particular time you are imprinting new memories new experiences and new easy jewels on from that environment and that suppresses what happened in the past so what I see is the fact I even have documentation of that for example of the the big jogger now we have the photograph on our website of Auntie them and sort of having a civil war presence and then teach them we have this jogger insureds who a bit to jog there now which does not resonate with the battles that occurred there in the past if a visual member is a bit too active jumping there every day or a couple times a week because now suppressed that civil war presence and on the surface it's now his memory and his. His presence is now the focus of what's going on there. Some see that a lot with a lot of contemporary ghost hunting they go in there with all the ghost tech equipment and most of that equipment does not resonate with a past experience of an entity from the past it doesn't resonate but listen hard to behavior that doesn't resonate with regard to their experience and so they don't remember any of that because they never had that experience in their lives so many times you get these voices coming out that saying get out well that's not a demonic voice or or an evil presence it's just the past presence tell me what are you doing I mean we don't understand at all what you're trying to do because we don't we have nothing like that in our experience or nothing like that in our memory so I don't really we don't remember any of that what are you trying to do. You know that sounds remarkably like the philosophy behind one of my favorite movies somewhere in time with Christopher Reeve right Chris right right Mary and the whole idea is he goes into this room in this hotel which basically has remained the same for a 100 plus years and strips him self of anything that would be contemporary dresses in the attire even exchanges his currency so that it's all from the date and time that he's going to visit and by doing that it almost envelops him into the possibility of shifting through time because he's not he's not burdening himself with things that would be inappropriate for that time era and that again I understand that's a movie but it's still that same kind of concept John you were just describing what we do what we do in a ghost excavation is time travel without the machine. That's true and Mary when John starts telling you this and you know he's going to use exacting he's going to go out in this were you skeptical about the idea that you know this guy's been smoking something funny he's going to go out and do what. I think actually after John explained. What he does it made so much more sense because I was used to the culture additional. Hunting techniques c.n.a. You go out there in leave your recorder out you maybe ask questions like What year is it who's the president I mean that was the typical post that I had been on maybe maybe I'm incorrect in other people have but that's again the immediately identify you as an outsider because you had already know that what I think is we go into a place we have the stink like an anthropologist in the field that means we must have the ability to forget our own culture how we behave today how we dress today and the technology we use today. This allows a presence to remember a place remember and the event remembers a technology that was used so that's what I'm in reintroducing to them a a a manner for them to remember so that places move not as an outsider in that culture but as part of that culture as an insider which means they are more willing to communicate with me because I'm part of that culture I'm not an outsider coming in and saying can you turn that flashlight on when chance most cultures in the recent past didn't even have class like if you go on a civil war battlefield and say can you turn his flashlight on what is a civil war soldier going to say what's a flashlight. Right that and that makes complete sense right what you're doing is you're putting yourself into. The contextual place for them to understand what it is you're doing that and I've often said that when I've I've gone to lead it talks on ghost hunting is putting yourself in those positions if you're talking all fancy and flourish using standard language that we would use today the ghost most likely or the spirits have no clue what it is that we're trying to do and they may be just as spooked or fascinated by us and that may be what's making them standoffish in a situation like this we have to take a break John Sable Mary Bakker our guests this evening and I'm curious I want to ask my guests when we come back if the time is all taking place simultaneously like the the pages between a book can we figure out a way not only to communicate with the past but perhaps to record future events before they happen to get an understanding of that what is the idea and the anthropology behind that we'll discuss that in so much more we've got a great show lined up for you this evening for George Norry I'm Dave Schrader and you're listening to the best in order to talk radio this is coast to coast am. 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See there for that again check it out ticketmaster dot com type in George Norry in the search engine to find more information John before the break I was I was just thrown it out there if time is taking place in co-existing all at once from the top of the book to the bottom of the book in the specific area and we can go in and resonate with specific time areas what are the chances of communicating or recording future possibilities not just keeping its war past it do you think there's any plausibility to that. Well we have verification of the heck. First of all. Cornelius whole whole tour has a European archaeologist and he said he once said that past present and future are constantly intermingled with one another and we I think I hope we got proof of that at and t. Them I don't know if if you have this audio does the audio where we have we were we were walking we were doing a scenario where we were charging up the word farm road toward Burnside Bridge and what we caught on audio is past present and future occurring simultaneously in the audio we have the the past occurring where you can hear the sounds of battle we have the pleasure in occurring you can hear simultaneously. Cricket another insects chirping but also in the distance you could hear I roar ring sound coming closer and closer and closer and as a guy called real close it occurred simultaneously with the battle sounds occurred simultaneously with that with the crickets chirping what I was was playing from the distance coming into the present reality of directly below us in the space of Burnside Bridge so in that particular space when that plane arrived we had the past we had the pleasant and the future of the plane coming into that space so we had all 3. Tenses occurring simultaneously Now I know we've got quite a few different pieces of audio was that the gunshot or cannon fire or the Thompson Cannon It's the what it's the one where you hear them you hear them fighting and you could hear actually was an audio recording and I mean I'm sorry a video recording but you couldn't see anything because we were it was all in the dark what you could hear is you can. We're like men fighting you can hear him shouting and you can have guns going off at the same time you can hear us walking and you can hear it's crickets chirping and you hear this humming noise in the background as getting closer and closer and closer and till it's overhead and what it was was a plane coming from a distance right now is that I'm just looking at the titles on some of these is that the traitor and teatime Rebel Yell Yankee audio. Not Ok I know once I've got here roll call lent that captain is that you Captain traitor gunshot or cannon fire Thompson cannon guns homes here those are some of the audio that we have from the the pieces that we have uploaded right cause you know I was going to explain all of those into one full segment about the whole sequence of of what's going on. But I guess you didn't have that one but it is on the Web site so I mean people can look it up on the Web site it is when we were we we just did and what's the Web site just so we can make sure that people can find that as well as that ghost excavation dot com Right and it would be under Antietam. Audio from I'm all right and what I will do is I will take a quick break I will have one of my producers take a look at it and see if we can find that audio through into them I'll try to look that up and send it over as well maybe we can visit with that piece when we return so let's take a quick break we'll come back we've got more with Mary Bakker and John civil right here on coast to coast am. Back Oh presents a voicemail from your friend lightning. Joe file and then just hang around the all clear to really hear that I gave you go Ok still not sure about the time of day for your big screen t.v. 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Let's let's get back into some of this and some of the explanations that you doing when you go out to these locations Let's say you pick a location like Gettysburg granted him what is your 1st line what are you starting to do and what are you looking to. Do to make this connection to start out Ok the 1st thing I do is to to 1st of all it's going I have to think of a civil war battlefield not as a landscape but as a soundscape Ok because during the those battles were so thick with artillery fire and and rifle fire that most of the time the so just couldn't see too well so they couldn't rely on vision they had to rely on sound so my emphasis on a civil war battlefield is to use particular sounds that had specific commands for the soldiers to enact for example during a civil war the infantry man had 57 different bugle calls he had to learn and each of those big recalls Halla different command so what I tried to do is integrate the idea of a battlefield soundscape to use specific sound Mark Hughes in specific battlefield spaces so the specific battlefield spaces that I used were the ones that were used during the Civil War These were called Koala Kaohsiung a which means a means Key area the area that they thought went to all was the observation area that was the enemy looking knock on the assault by the other troops he would cover conceal the areas which were areas that were put Ted get some fire the other was off the go areas going from cover conceal the area to the key area there were various off the calls like they had a clue. I'm over walls and they had to go over the wooden fences and a was the avenue of approach which is how they approached the cover and conceal the area to a key area in each of those 5 different areas I I created a story board that were a list of different scenarios that would be content to each of those 5 different areas for example in a cover and concealed area I did roll call so I did a specific role I use a specific bugle call that would alert the men to assemble because we were going to do the roll call and then I did the roll call and then keyed in I specifically did the roll call for all 39 soldiers who died during the 1st assault puir Burnside Bridge I went down one by one and we've got we've got a number of responses to that to that scenario one of which was I think you have it's when I when Frank replied Ok let's let's go to that piece of audiotape Nathan If you've got that it's audio number one and so this is your doing roll call and you call out Mr Flint's name and you get a response like. So you're hearing I right after that and what's interesting is right it sounds very young in nature you think boy that almost sounds like a kid but there's a reason for that that you know there's a reason for that because we have a photograph of Alvin Flint and we know his history by doing the research owling we just turned 18 when he died during the 1st assault. He sounds like a scared little boy you're calling out on this name looking to make communication with this person what do you think is happening then through the reverberation of time John how our How is this voice coming through to them is hearing the call out are you. Yeah you know names I'm asking in the situation how are you interacting through time that way. I rule I really don't how I really don't know how to explain it I just try to do the scenarios try to resonate with it I can explain the physics because I really don't know you know what what what what this entails I'm just trying to say Ok what I'm finding this happened here in this particular space what remains of that scenario what remains of that event or does anything remain of that event that's an ocular logical approach to the unearthing of past presence this happened here what remains so let's go into the mechanics of that trying to decipher how that actually happened I'm just saying it all for you it happened because it resonates with a memory of a presence who is still attached to a particular locale is still in that it there and I think the reason why some of these soldiers are still attached to the battlefield is the concept of the good death they didn't die the good guess they died on a battlefield far from home dying the good death which was the traditional way of dying before the American Civil War was to be sick at home you are surrounded by family and friends you say your goodbyes you make your peace with God you die in front of your family and you bury in the family plot on the civil war that did not happen most of their time a lot of these soldiers never got to receive the good death some of them got substitutes from their fellow soldiers who comforts in. Comfort and comfort in during their time of dying but a lot of them died really quickly far away from home and they never got the this whole concept of the good death that's why some of them I think are still attached to the place where they were they when they passed on all right let's let's just say that one more time you're doing roll call you call out for Flint and you get an audible response go ahead and play that one more time with an elderly lady. All right got a response there talk to me about Captain is that you Captain that piece of audio we're dispraise up the idea of past present and future that we're talking about before now the past is. The Civil War soldier had roll calls before they went into battle because that's how they made how they assembled so the past was a roll call that they. Reiterated in practice in drills and on the battlefield that's the past the present part is me getting dressed as an officer and doing the roll call of the soldiers who were involved in the battle that is the present now the future occurs when. Something unexpected happens and that unexpected What happened was we got I was I was doing a wife finish that scenario I went on to do move to another location and I still had to live all audio on and I was as I was moving across the bridge all of a sudden this voice team through and it said is that you captain which refers back to me being the officer in charge during the row call somebody asked if I was the captain so that's a future response based on my present resonance with a past concept of the roll call that makes sense. Yeah totally I understand what you're getting at you've already been in that realm and had Ignalina just who you were and put yourself into that so now you were still resonating at that this is how they were seeing you as well right they came back to me like you know 15 minutes later and asked me is that you captain like are you are you still there Captain I mean you know you still get commanding the you know the the forces because I know you did roll call but I can't believe you're still alive so this is something totally unexpected We weren't expecting that because we're moving on to another scenario and as we're moving to that scenario this was tinkle because we always have our Are you alive while involved are moving around and this voice came back responding to something we did earlier so that's kind of past present and future occurring in that same space within a matter of 5 minutes or 10 minutes time all right let's go ahead and play cut number 2 Captain is that you Captain. Now let's play it again because it's right away at the beginning you hear the 1st captain and then there's a pause You can hear them talking the background and then you hear the the soldier trying to clarify is that you Captain Go ahead. And just sort our audience understands John you're not hearing these auto responses so it's not direct voice phenomena your your hearing this only upon replay Well actually we didn't replay these we have a No we got it we were using our t.v. Piece so it's it's live with that 2nd ally so that's why when we get that when we get that 6 2nd delay we respond immediately to it and we keep the conversation going so we keep on going and going and going until they stop responding so it sort of defending our recorders down and then playing it back maybe hours later or day later or a week later we quiet we we get we get there we sponsor that response from them 6 seconds later. All right I'll That's why we have more communication from them because more research on the mediately Yeah you've got that immediately back and forth let's let's go to number 3 it straighter and see them rebel yell What can you tell us about that audio clip bulging out I South Africa let's let's do something different I had just done the roll call I had just gotten this kept the news value cap and I said Ok let me go over to the Confederate side across the bridge going over to the Confederate side we had already had this this 7 2nd loop of a simulated Confederate rebel yell so I went over to the Confederate side I played it back over on the the rebel side and I really didn't get any response on the on the Confederate side playing the loop of rebel you know so I said Ok let's see what happens if I cross the bridge over to the union side to the avenue of approach where the assaults poured Burnside Bridge happened in the past what happens dressed as a Union officer having just done the roll call if I'm playing the rebel yell What will what will be the response so this is kind of really kind of teasing them and saying Ok if this is an actual past presidents fomenting you know they're going to have 3 Didn't going to have to respond very negatively to Nico and of being a Union officer doing the rebel yell right right so what kind of response do you Ok go ahead and we'll play that them. All right. All right. All right so we're hearing all of this what is you what is the response that we're getting back so that listeners that you know we're on the outside what are we exactly looking for there Ok the 1st part of it is me playing that. The simulator Rebel Yell and then I'm going to then I'm shouting at them I says Come on you Yankee dogs look worst we're you know we're coming in attacking you what are you going to do what do you what do you cowards blah blah blah so I was going down already down the road and I turned around and I was going back toward the bridge and crossing over the bridge and so you can see it fading out that that that whooping sound and as I got further away crossing toward crossing over the bridge is what you get a response from the union side along the cover and concealment along the avenue of approach that that what we had to clear out on the air didn't sound too clear there but it did it was like 3 times somebody said traitor. All right maybe we can play just the end clip of that when we come back we're up against the top of the hour break as we talk about paranormal investigating and this full immersion of putting ourselves into the time in era of these moments in history John Sable Mary Bakker our guests tonight ghost excavation That's our topic here on coast to coast am. More about tonight's guest log on to coast to coast am dot com. 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