of experts to explore this further. in london, a geopolitical analyst and author. he serves as the cofounder of economic partners. and in beirut today but actually based in london at the school of economics. an expert on terrorism and the co-author of "isis: the state of terr terror." and peter bergen joins us from washington. he is a vice president at new america. peter, let me ask you, does this strike you as terrorists adapting yet again? because what is interesting about this to me is it's in many ways very low tech. a van going into crowds, people brandishing knives and using them as weapons. of course, guns are very hard to get in britain. maybe i'm just trying to look for a silver lining here. all of that means they're
finding it hard to do big bombs at symbolic locations and that kind of thing, and what they are reduced to is driving vans and using knives, which is, of course, terrible and tragic, but you can only kill so many people, particularly if the police responds as quickly as they did in this case. >> sure. for that silver lining, we look to manchester where only two weeks ago a bomb detonated killed 22 people. so i think the problem, fareed, is britain has, you know, thousands of people who have been influenced by this idealogy. something like 850 brits have gone for training in syria and iraq. compare that to america where really you're talking about a few dozen who have successfully gone to iraq and syria with a country six times the population. we used to think this is a phenomenon, the number of attacks in belgium, britain seemed to be protected by the channel, protected by a strict
law enforcement community, but that was not sufficient. and i think theresa may, who after all faces this election in four days, you know, it can go both ways. she was the home secretary. she does have a lot of experience in counterterrorism. the conservatives are regarded as being tougher on their home territory. we saw who took a very strong position on the iraq war after a terrorist attack in madrid lost the election to someone who was much moran opponent to the iraq war. so late in the electoral cycle, it's quite unpredictable what the political consequences might be, fareed. >> i think the question most people must have is, in a sense, who are these people and why are they doing this? and i don't mean that in the general sense. we've been living with this for decades. i mean specifically british terrorists. as people were saying, what is going on in britain? why are there so many and who
and injured. think of asia in the last few weeks. in baghdad, almost on a daily basis. here i am in beirut. basically people live under constant threat. what i'm trying to say, this is an idealogy, it's a spreading idealogy. it's not a mass movement, it's a social movement, it's a powerful movement and some individuals respond to this idealogy for a variety of reasons. it's popular for utopia, you have people who believe that somehow some western countries and middle eastern countries are waging a war against their faith, and that's why in almost every case they tried to kill in the name off allah even though they are not to harm civilians. the fact is it's going to run its cycle in the next few years not just in europe, but throughout the world. >> jessica stern, you spent so
call the garrisons, the arena of war in the west to fight. they believe they're at war. they want to make it extremely uncomfortable, dangerous even, for muslims living in the west. that is the goal, i believe, of these attacks. >> what can we say about britain versus other countries? is there any particular reason this has happened three times in britain in the last three months? >> well, i think, fareed, one of the questions that people are asking now is that given that britain has actually had a better record both in terms of the integration of some of these communities from which some of these perpetrators emerge but also in terms of its intelligence capabilities, both offense siive and defensive, asl as its understanding from a day to day perspective, this was supposed to be a safe country,
certainly relative to some on the continent where there was a broader sense that they had less of a handle on the phenomenon itself. i think what we're going to look at now is despite what has been correctly pointed out, this is a worldwide phenomenon. the politics of this country, i think, will guide towards a more aggressive set of measures both abroad as well as domestically, that there is not a sense that this is simply something that is a global phenomena that has to be endured, but there are steps that can be taken where this activity and extremism is encouraged and bred, but also in terms of individuals and surveillance and also how companies and technology companies are going to be asked to do more to be better partners in the fight against this scourge. we'll be back in a moment. president trump has been tweeting, of course, about last night's terror attack in london. and some brits have been
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of your country. sadiq khan represents some of the best of ours. joining me again is my panel. peter, trump has tweeted several other things, all of which are suggesting we need to get tougher, meaning by that, the courts are standing in the way of the u.s. government from doing what it needs to. i wonder what your reaction is, because of course, european countries, generally the police has much more authority and they have had difficulty stopping this kind of terror attack. as you pointed out, by contrast the united states has a much less radicalized local population of muslims. >> also the travel ban is a solution to a problem that doesn't really exist, fareed. you know, almost all the terrorist -- all the lethal terrorist attacks in the united states, for instance, since 9/11 are being carried out by american citizens or american legal residents. similarly in britain, all the lethal terrorist attacks have almost without exception been carried boout by british citize,
whether it was the worst one in history in 2005 where brits, the manchester attack, the terrorists were actually born in manchester. the westminster attacker was also a british citizen. so travel bans, one of the seemingly common sense answers to a common sense problem which actually makes no sense at all, and also you can't ban the internet with a travel ban, and most of these people have been radicalized by the internet, so the travel ban is really a red herring. >> whnader, when you talked abo how companies are going to have to do more, explain exactly what you mean. it seems to me you can't really turn off the internet, can you? >> no, but i think what we're going to see, and this has been something more open in debate here, and the government has been more explicit about it in this country, fareed, is there is a sense about whether it is the persistent character of on-line extremist material on
various websites and social media platforms that the countries are aware of and can be do more to take down what has been put out or the widely encrypted communications which we know is complicated in law enforcement and other government authorities actually want to keep it. having said all that, i think it is important to understand that an event like this and a series of events like this will put more pressure on those companies whose ecosystem at the end of the day is allowing some of this communication, if not all of it, to take place, often without the ability of governments to access it. the political pressure, i think, will simply grow. you have also in theresa may a prime minister who as a home secretary was very focused on this issue, very determined to do more. as we look at policy responses to last night and going forward, i think that is one area we're going to see more activity in. >> jessica, is there anything that convinces these people to be deradicalized? is there any argument, any emotional reaction to death?
>> well, when we talk to people who have deradicalized themselves, some of them will admit that they were spiritually dispossessed and that their reasons for radicalizing actually were not really related to a particular idealogy. in fact, one of the people i've talked to extensively has said that pretty much any idealogy would have extremist violent promoting idealogy would have worked for him. he was a convert who established the first on-line recruitment site for al qaeda. interveni intervening, it's partly clearly idealogical, because what happens, whatever the reason the person gets drawn in, they do begin to buy into the idealogy. it's partly idealogical and partly psychological and partly spiritu spiritual. i think just as there are many
different reasons why people get drawn into these movements, there are many different pathways to help them out. >> when the president went to the middle east, he said the problem of terrorism was all being fueled and supported by iran. but, of course, this is all sunni jihadist terror. yet again the idealogical roots actually draw on places like saudi arabia. is there anything to be done? how does one battle this idealogically? >> i think you asked me, and of course, fareed, there is no simple cure. there is no magical answer to this complex of traveling idealogy. if you ask me what you can do about it in western societies, they would say local, local, local. you need to work with local communities, muslim civil societies. let's remind our audience, too, between 2013 and 2016, the
british security forces have foiled 18 operations. since the attack in manchester in march, basically the security forces has foiled six attacks. so the reality is you need good intelligence, you need to be proactive, and you need to work as local communities. the worst thing you can do is to alienate local muslim communities like president trump in his rhetoric and his ban against muslims coming from the world to the united states. >> peter, talk about the politics of this going forward. nader pointed out this will put a lot of pressure on the british government, but what will that mean? at the end of the day, what can you do when you have somebody who decides to take a van and use it to find a place where people are having a good time? again, it strikes me that this is so low tech that it's not
going to be easy to figure out what it means to get tougher with this kind of terror. >> i totally agree, and i mean, picking up on the social media conversation, yes, the social media companies have isis -- twitter has closed down hundreds of thousands of facebook accounts. facebook has thousands of people looking for these kinds of messages. but the internet is very big and there are a lot of messages. and so the idea that somehow we're going to magically make all the social media companies produce content that doesn't incite this kind of thing is kind of false. there is a first amendment problematically in the united states, and also there is an issue that isis is using telegram, which is a berlin-based social media company encrypted platform and isn't subject to british laws or american laws. so the terrorism seems to be technologically ahead, and i think the social media companies are doing what they can, and the british government can demand whatever they want, but i think
if that's seen as sort of a magic bullet, i don't think it's going to work, either. >> this is a fascinating conversation and it's not going to go away, so we'd like to have all of you come back to talk about it soon. next on gps, the other big story of the week, of course, president trump's decision to pull out of the paris climate agreement. does it signal the end of an era of american leadership in the world? i will give you my thoughts when we come back and then a discussion.
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it is in its conception and its execution the most radical departure from a bipartisan american foreign policy since 1945. in an op-ed for the wall street journal, national economic director gary cohn and national security adviser h.r. mcmaster explained that president trump has a clear-eyed outlook that the world is not a global community but an arena where nation's non-governmental actors and businesses engage and compete for advantage. they added, rather than deny this elemental international nature of affairs, we embrace it. that embracing has now led the u.s. to withdraw from the paris accord climate change signed by 93 other countries. the other aspect of international relations has of course existed for millennial and the united states has the largest military, troops are
based in dozens of countries around the world and international relations on several continents. this is not a nation politically unaware of political competition. but in 1945, the world did change. in the wake of two of the deadliest wars in human history with more than 60 million killed and much of europe and asia physically devastated, the united states tried to build a new international system. it created institutions, rules and norms that would encourage countries to solve their differences peacefully through negotiations rather than war. it created a system where trade and commerce would expand the world economy so that a rising tide could lift all boats. now, it didn't work perfectly. the soviet union and its allies rejected many of those ideas from the start. many developing countries adopted only some parts of the system. but western europe, canada and the united states did, in fact, become an amazing zone of peace and economic political and
military cooperation. the west that emerged is, in historical terms, a miracle. europe, which had torn itself apart for hundreds of years because of the elemental nature of international competition, was now competing not to annex countries and subjugate their populations but just to create better jobs and more growth. this grew over the years, first in countries like japan and south korea, then later a few countries in latin america. then in 1991, the soviet union collapsed and large parts of the world gravitated towards this open international order. and at the heart of the system was the united states. since 1945, every president of either party has recognized that america created something unique that was a break from centuries of elemental international conflict. but from the start of his political career, donald trump has seemed unaware of this
history and ignorant of these accomplishments. he has consistently been dismiss sie dismissive of america's allies. he speaks strongly of vladimir putin, xi jinping and duterte, but critically of almost every democratic leader of europe. the consequences of trump's stance and his actions are difficult to foresee. they might result in the erosion of this open liberal international order. they might mean the rise of a new not so liberal order championed by china and india, both of them recanted in nationalist countries. but they could also result in the long run in the strengthening of this order perhaps by the reemergence of europe. trump has brought the continent's countries together in a way that not even vladimir putin could. german chancellor angela merkel says that europe must look out for itself now, and as if to underscore that fact, the same week welcomed the prime minister
of india and the premiere of china. french president emmanuel macron lifted up face values to putin just the way an american president would have done in the past. so donald trump might not have caused the end of the western world, but he might end america's role at its center. for more go to cnn.com/fareed and read my "washington post" column this week. next on gps, much more about the president's decision to withdraw from paris. a great panel will discuss it and what it means for america and the planet.
accord and france's president said simply, goodbye, america. even more punchy, earth to trump, f you. here to join us who helped negotiate the paris agreement as secretary of energy under president obama. cnn's global economics analyst and the ft's global business columnist. and richard haas, the president of the council on foreign relations and the author of "a world in disarray." let me start by asking you, donald trump said it was highly likely that he would be able to negotiate a better deal. what are the prospects of the other 193 countries doing a new deal now that the united states has pulled out? >> well, i think the odds of that are vanishingly small. and what is, of course, particularly strange is if the president were concerned about the relative size of
commitments, the paris agreement has all the flexibility to, for example, reduce the targets. i wouldn't advocate that, of course, but that's a much more practical approach, certainly, than arguing that the whole deal could be redone. i might add it's particularly sad, in my view, in the sense that the agreement accomplished exactly what was called for over many years, getting the emerging economies to have commitments, to have flexibility, so obviously this action by the president is a major step backwards. >> richard, it seems as though secretary moniz is right. the paris accord is pretty flexible. you can do numerous things. the united states can build co-plans under it, for example. why withdraw? it seems to be part of a signalling game that donald trump is playing. if you look at the way he treated nato, who refused to
claim article 5, these are symbolic statements that seem to be all about nationalism and sovereignty over globalism. >> 100%. this is not about climate change per se. this might have been a form of multilateralism donald trump should embrace. this is the most functional form of multilateralism. it allows sovereignty countries to discuss what they're going to do. he should have said this was a model but he didn't, and your question has the answer in it. this is symbolic. this is about the politics, the appearances. he's playing to a domestic base. it's part of his larger world view, that when he looks at the last 70 years, i think unlike the two of us, rather than see a world that's been pretty good for the united states of america, it's been relatively peaceful, relatively prosperous, often more democratic than it ever was, donald trump looks at the world and says somehow it's costing us more than it's benefiting us. our allies and our trading partners, to use a technical
phrase, are screwing us, and what he wants to do is essentially disrupt. i can understand why vladimir putin lights up every day and wants to disrupt. i cannot for the life of me understand on the merits why any american president would want to disrupt the inheritance that he had, and this will be truly consequential. >> what's striking to me is for the last three months we've been hearing from the president of the united states how the world order is unfair and how he wants to tear it down, and the president of china about how he wants to uphold free trade, rules of the road, world order and actually expand and enhance it. is this an opportunity for the chinese? >> absolutely. you already see the chinese and the europeans coming together and saying, we're going to have tighter alliances around climate issues, we're going to develop smart grids, we're going to look into new technologies. that's why you see so many business leaders in the u.s. so upset about trump pulling back from paris because they know, when you talk about jobs, and it's ironic he's making the
economic argument tore trafor t this agreement, the jobs are in smart tech, in green tech. that's one interesting point. but again, from a political standpoint, and i agree with richard, this is theater for trump. this is playing to his base. in a way it works internally amongst his advisers. he splits the difference between the steve bannon nationalist camp and the moderate gary cohn camp by saying, i'm not going to deny the science, but i'm going to stand up to these scientists who pander their salons and build up the global power plant. so it works for him at home. >> pittsburgh says i represent the people of pittsburgh, not paris. pittsburgh as as many clean air jobs as these countries. it all has a price in terms of the climate and the economy, right? >> absolutely. if i may, fareed, i would just
like to add a couple footnotes to what's just been said, one being that, as richard said, this is a pattern in many cases. together deeply shaking the confidence of our allies and friends in our reliability and on the jobs front, and this is part of the impact on the jobs front. i would like to inject in that in addition to the paris accord announcement that the president's administration has also sent a budget to congress that would undercut the innovation investments that are exactly the foundation for jobs of the future, exactly the investments that would position us to get a large market share of a future multi-trillion-dollar clean energy marketplace. so the effects there combining those would be immense. the good news, of course, is as has already been noted, the good news is our business leaders, they make long-term business plans, but look, when the
federal government is not rowing in the same direction, it's obviously going to make things more difficult, and it's going to make it much more costly and challenging for the united states in the future as we protect the environment but also compete in that global energy marketplace. all of you stay with us. when we come back, we're going to explore in some greater depth what does a world without america at the helm look like? how stable or how scarily unstable is it, when we come back.
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withdrawing from paris, withdrawing from the transpacific partnership, withdrawing from essentially the european version of dead, not informing nato. what does this mean? the united states has really been at the center of this order that we created since 1945. what's likely to happen? >> there's two futures. the optimist would say others would step in and they would step in in ways that would be benign. they would essentially no longer look to the united states and do it themselves and be a positive self-help society. the europe aans would do certai things, maybe the chinese. you would say, okay, the american part has ended but there is still a good order. the others don't have the capacities in many cases, they don't have the mindset, the kind of rules they would promulgate would not be the ones we would want. so rather than have a race to
the top you would get close to the bottom. this would be a world with much less influence. this would be a much more liberal world, and probably a world where global arrangements shrink and the gap between global challenges, from proliferation to terrorism to climate to cyber, the gap between those challenges and global arrangements grow simply because the united states, which is still what, 20, 25% of the world's economic output, we're still the most powerful country militarily? without our full contribution and participation, it's a much more difficult enterprise. >> and talk about china specifically, because china's own approach, even though it talks about free trade and global order, they're a pretty nationalist country. if you look at their one belt, one road initiative, it's essentially, let us go out and build your infrastructure for you, and in return we want special deals. >> absolutely. you can see that happening now, and i think china is already setting the agenda increasingly
in asia in big ways. climate change is actually an interesting example of the national strategy, because at the same time, yeah, china has a lot of dirty coal, it's also made clean tech an important sector and quite a protected sector. but i think you are going to see this kind of regionalism that richard was talking about. i think asia is kind of moving forward in the most strategically smart way with that. europe, it's interesting, post brexit you would think it would be a moment for germany to say we're going to commit to economic integration, but you don't see that. in the u.s., it's interesting in nafta and what's happening in nafta is a perfect example. it makes sense to have close ties, but i wonder how britain will feel working with us in the next couple years. >> when you look at all the
countries you negotiated with for the paris accords, richard, how do you think they will react? how will the indians and the chinese react? are they looking at this as an advantage for them? are they sad about it? what's your suspicion? >> first of all, the chinese and indian leaders have already come out and made very strong statements about trying to up their game in terms of leadership. but as richard said, it's very hard to replace american leadership. indeed, for paris, it was frankly the initiative taken by president obama to have the joint announcement with president xi that really changed the entire game on the pathway to paris. now, having said that, and i think this was just referred to as well, there is no doubt that the chinese in particular are going to see this as a fabulous opportunity, frankly, to strengthen their position in the economy in the decades ahead.
in fact, i mentioned earlier the president's budget proposal to congress, and today we have a substantially larger governmental investment in the early stage innovation than does china. the trajectories that we would have if congress supports the president's proposal would put us at a substantially lower position with regard to china. so you know what this will do? 20 years from now the president will be complaining about the chinese market share in clean energy technology. >> thank you, all. a fascinating, fascinating conversation. next on gps, a town on the move. no, actually a whole town that is being moved from one place to another. where in the world is this? we'll find out when we come back. june 11th, save $600 when you buy select tempur-pedic adjustable mattress sets.
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of the trump campaign. >> just to state the obvious that we all know, the president shoots from the hip. i'm not sure there was a ton of fore thought into what he said about sessions. i think he was honest and blunt about his feelings at that moment in time. they are feelings that he has had on and off for some time now. the russian investigation as we all know kind of won't go away as a story line partly because there's an open investigation but also because the president is preoccupied with it and he brings it up all the time, in private conversations and apparently in public ones. >> i think there's a real concern in terms of the comments he's made obviously because they also seem to indicate that, you know, first he wants loyalty from comey, now he wants loyalty or allegiance from attorney general, like he's wanting to run this the way he runs his business, which is not the way the government works and certainly not the way the justice department works, which is an independent institution. these senior officials take an oath to the constitution, not donald trump, and he fundamentally misunderstands
that. >> if he wants to run it the way he runs his business, shouldn't those around him remember he's gone bankrupt four times? i want to share what he said about robert mueller. >> mueller was looking at your finances and your family's finances unremitted to russia, is that a red line? >> would that be a breach of what his actual charge is? >> i would say yeah, i would say yes. >> that's a red line. you cannot go into my family's finances. once robert muler is in that kitchen, he's in there. >> it's called an independent investigation for a reason. the whole purpose of this exercise is not to exonerate donald trump or prove his innocence. it's to get to the truth, wherever it may take us. and the american people deserve to know whether their president a operating in the american's interests or his own business or financial interests. this is a completely fair question to be asked. >> does donald trump have any point in that if robert mueller's job is not to
exonerate donald trump, it's also not his job to look under every rock there possibly is to see if he, you know, cheated on his homework in 1962. >> i just think mueller -- >> which i'm going to take a guess he probably did. which you know what, i may have as well. >> procedurally, he's in a very awkward spot now because trump has eventually said i will fire him if he gets into this area of inquiry. if the investigation leads him there, i'm sure he'll feel compelled to proceed and risk being fired but that of course would be totally counterproductive to the entire effort. >> which goes into this bizarre history he's created, this alternative universe he's created where somehow rod rosenstein told him to fire comey and rod rosenstein also stacked him in the back by appointing mueller. the president's inability to put together basic chronology of what his own behavior lead to is part of what makes this interview so bizarre. we've seen rambling things from trump before, but i don't think he knows what he did yesterday
let alone the consequences of what he'll do today. >> making him a defense attorney's nightmare and a prosecutor's dream. i want to share more of what he said when he was specifically talking about his conversation with vladimir putin. >> it was not a long conversation, but it was, you know, could be 15 minutes. just talked about things. i actually talked about russian adoption with him, which is interesting because that was a part of the conversation that don had in that meeting. >> okay. ewing my president trump decoder ring, adoptions means sanctions. does the president not understand that whether that meeting was 15 minutes or 50 minutes sanctions and adoptions are one and the same and you sit down with vladimir putin, you are getting in the way of some serious foreign policy issues. >> apparently not, which of course is pretty surprising given all of what's unfolded with his son and the meeting that they had and all of the conversations that, you know, we've had since then about adoption, the magnitsky act,
collusion. so it's pretty surprising that, you know, he is seemingly unawares. but the reality is when you look at trump's behavior, when you read the rest of the interview and look at statements he's made in the past, he really doesn't seem to know a lot about what's going on with any of us. he doesn't seem to understand the seriousness of the investigation and why it matters. he doesn't seem to understand why sessions recused himself and the importance of having an investigation that has integrity and how having an investigation with integrity can benefit him if he doesn't have anything to hide. he doesn't understand that his attorney general is not his junior employee who he can expect to put his personal political interest before the american people. it's really a problem across the board and it comes through clearly in this interview. >> there's something else to hide. 17 million bucks. 17 large. "new york times" reported paul manafort in the hole to russian
interests, going into the campaign for 17 large. >> right. >> how do we square this one off? >> well, i mean, manafort's obviously got a very serious problem here and, you know, he's one of the key individuals in these inquiries. so it's just putting more detail on what is already a very serious issue for him among others. >> i need a quick yes/no. does jeff sessions quit? >> no. >> yes. >> yes. >> that's what makes markets. we'll soon find out. we have to turn to some other news, news that shook capitol hill shgt i want to shay it shook the world last night. senator john mccain diagnosed with brain cancer. this was revealed after he underwent surgery this week for a blood clot just above his left eye. msnbc's garrett haake is on capitol hill. garrett, you were on the hill seemingly all day, all night yesterday speaking to lawmakers as they learn this news. what are you hearing?
>> yeah, stepny. let me set the scene for you last night. we had about 15 or 20 republican senators meeting behind closed doors on health care. this is a senators only meeting. their aides weren't even in the room. they were sort of cloistered away last night when this news broke. lindsey graham, who is john mccain's best friend in washington, d.c., and probably his best friend who he's not immediately related to, was on the phone with john mccain when he walked into that meeting room. he broke the news to rest of the senators. they were absolutely stunned by this, depressed. they sort of stomed the meeting right in their tracks and asked one of the member who is's a former pastor back in oklahoma to say a prayer for john mccain right then and there. they tried to keep working after that, but everyone we talked to coming out including lindsey graham, especially lindsey graham, so emotional about not having this person who served as the spiritual leader of the republican party in the senate. here was lindsey graham talking to our cameras right after that meeting late last night.
>> pray. i don't know, god knows how this ends, not me, but i do know this -- this disease has never had a more worthy opponent. >> a >> reporter: one of the things he said was after about five minutes of conversation about the tumor, john mccain was talking about passing a defense authorization. he was talking about health care. he was talking about the work. he urged his republican colleagues to get back to work and that's what we're going to see here shortly this morning. >> john mccain is a great american and certainly a fighter. let's turn to nbc news medical contributor dr. natalie azar. dr. natalie, john mccain's family in their statements have said they are weighing treatment options. what kind of options are they here? >> the standard course of therapy is chemotherapy and radiation after the tumor was surgically resected. that's the standard of care. with that, the median survival is roughly 14 months. five-year survival statistics about 5 to 17%.
things that factor into the prognosis are age, so older age patients tend to have a worse outcome. >> his 80, but his mom, i want so say she's 105. >> amazing. we know he's strong guy so i certainly have all the faith there. they also study the tumor and look at two specific markers that will predict how well he responds to chemo and will know the result and the status of those in about a week or two. a little early to say exactly what path is going to be followed but the standard of care again is resection, you hope to get as much out as you can according to the scans, they did get a complete resection, which is great, and then chemo and radiation would be the standard of care. >> well, we are certainly sending him all of our prayers, and we know he's going to get the very best treatment. dr. natalie, thank you so much. next, cbo scores, straight repeal of obamacare, and those numbers, they ain't good. founding member of the freedom caucus congressman jim jordan, explains what he thinks it needs to be repealed even without a
replacement. but before we go, the celebration day for president trump. the six-month anniversary of his inauguration. we've spoken before about his low poll numbers. but how does he compare to past presidents at this point in their tenure? according to gallup, he is by far the lowest approval rating at this point of any of the last six presidents. the only other one even below 55% at the six-month mark, bill clinton. and you know bill clinton had a rough first year. last year, he said he was going to dig a hole to china. at&t is working with farmers to improve irrigation techniques. remote moisture sensors use a reliable network to tell them when and where to water. so that farmers like ray can compete in big ways. china. oh ... he got there. that's the power of and.
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my message today is really simple. we have to stay here, we shouldn't leave town, and we should hammer this out and get it done. >> president trump there demanding that republicans remain in d.c. until they have a plan to repeal and replace obamacare. just hours later, nearly two dozen senators met to hash out their differences. >> we still do have work to do to get to a vote of 50, but people are committed to continuing that work. >> we've just got a ways to go yet. it will take a little more patience. >> i don't think we're as far as some people think they are but there's work to be done, no doubt. >> trying to get to 50. working on it. >> any closer? >> hard to say. >> i'm joined by ohio republican congressman jim jordan, a founding member of the house freedom caucus. congressman, i know you want to vote to repeal the aca even if there's no replacement ready. you've had a lot of time to come up with a replacement.
why would another year or two make any difference? >> well, senator mccain has said this, if you can repeal it first, that may be the catalyst you need to create the momentum you need for actually a bipartisan solution where we could work on some of the things that the more moderate members of the republican conference and democrats are really focus on like some of the medicaid expansion issues, the opioid issues, as well as some of those things we believe on the conservative side would bring down premiums like expanding health savings accounts, easier formation of association health plans, and interstate shopping for insurance. so that's the kind of trade that can be set up if you first repeal it, which everyone onos we have to do, and oh by the way, what we told the american people we were going to do when they elected us. >> not everyone knows we have to replace it. i would say there's consensus that it has to be improved. and do you have to replace it and take that kind of risk to motivate people to work together? the cbo says we could see nearly 17 million more people go
uninsured by next year alone. premiums doubling in 2 1/2 years. why repeal it and say i'm going to put a gun to your head to work together? why not not just work together? >> first of all, it never hurts to do what you said nap's what we told the american people we were going to do in 2010, 2014, 2016s when we won elections on that issue. >> you said repeal and replace, not just repeal. >> so let's repeal it then replace it in another piece of legislation. they can happen at the same time. that's not quite working out in the same bill, but they can happen in the same time two different bills or repeal it then get to the replace. second, cbo, this the same cbo who said when obamacare passed that 21 million americans would be on obamacare right now when in fact the numb inter9 million. the same cbo that said when the medicaid expansion happen under obamacare the cost would be $4600. instead it's $6200. >> the cbo -- >> it go the facts that have happen wrd cbo has been wrong
countless times. second, and you guys never talk about this, our repeal bill says it's not effective until december 31st, 2018. if it were passed today and president trump would sign it tomorrow, there's a year and a half before it takes effect. that's time for what i just described, people to come together and put together a replacement plan that will bring down premiums, which have risen dramatically under obamacare, and if you can pay your premium, can you afford the four, six, eight thousand dollar deduckable so many plans have that so many are experiencing. that's how we can come together and solve problems for american families. >> you said yesterday you have a full understanding of what the american people want. i'm looking at the this new cnn poll that says 35% want to abandon the repeal only if you're going to then have an immediate replacement. it doesn't seem like the american people want to take this risk. it seems like it's a campaign promise that you want to just
check off. >> no. we want to do what we told the american people we were going to do, what we think is best. never forget where we're at and never forget what the democrats told the american people when they passed this terrible thing called obamacare. remember all the false statements we were told. like your plan, chemoyour plan. like your doctor, keep your doctor. we were told premiums would go down. the president of the united states said premiums would go down on average $2,500. we were told the website was going to work. we were told the website information on their was secure. we were told that emergency room visits could trade deadline. they've went up. and we were told these co-ops would be wonderful. >> you are right. >> 18 of the 22. everything we were told -- >> and that -- >> this law has to be repealed. let's do it as soon as possible with the effective date in the future a year and a half. that gives us time to putting to the replacement. >> there are loads of obamacare problems. that is one of the reasons president trump won the election. >> right. >> it is also why republicans
control it all. so why can't you get your house together? you don't need democrats. you can blame democrats but you near the most beautiful position. you don't need them. >> you know what, stephanie? you're right. we did that in the house. we did come together. we had an intense debate in the house. i know because of that intense debate we conservatives made the bill that left the house a better piece of legislation that actually brought down premiums. so let's hope the senate can do the same thing there and have the same process up fold over there. if they don't, we started the process yesterday with doing a discharge petition, bringing out the clean repeal and doing again what we told the american people we were going to do. >> is president trump your ally here? yesterday he said republicans do a poor job of trying to explain this and sell the new health care idea, this new bill, yet i'm reading the interview he did with "the new york times" where he's talking about entitlements and i want to share a quote where he says, you know, you're 21 years old, you start working and you're paying 12 bucks a year for insurance and by the
time you're 70 you get a nice plan. it's as though the president has a very sophomoric understanding of how health care works. so is the president your advocate here? is he helping you sell this? >> i think the president's helping us on this issue and a host of others. i think what has to happen is congress has to do what we said. again, we make this job way too complicated. i know what i told the voters in the fourth district of ohio. i know in crawford county i get -- today there is not one single plan offered in the exchange, not one plan if you live in crawford county, ohio. so i know what's happened to folks. i know what i told them i was do. that's what i'm focused on accomplishing. i think the president is doing the same thing spop let's simply do what we said, do what the american people sent us here to accomplish. >> all right. if it doesn't have to be that complicated, does it mean you'll vote on it next week and it will pass? >> we've already voted on it in the house, stephanie. we seal what happens in the
senate. senator mcconnell said bring up the repeal, our leadership won't bring up that bill so we've start the process to make an end run around that and bring a discharge position to the floor and vote on a clean repeal. >> good luck. >> thank you. up next, senator elizabeth warren joins me on everything from the russia investigation to a new report card on president trump's first six months. and speaking of president trump's first six months, monday he made this claim. >> we've signed for bills and i'm talking about through the legislature, than any president ever. >> 42 bills signed so far top the two previous presidents but it is fewer than bill clinton. and of those bills nearly one-third of them are aimed at pulling back rules put in place by president obama. well, president trump said he doesn't like to get pinocchios. i'm afraid at this rate he's going to be getting quite a few.
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there's a new report card out that shows he's fallen fall short in fulfilling one of his key promises from the campaign -- draping the swamp in washington. joining me is the author of that report card, a report card in the summer? nobody wants one of those. senator elizabeth warren. i want to talk about the report card but i have to ask you about a colleague of yours, john mccain, a man you've known for years and years. what is your reaction to his diagnosis and the mood among your fellow lawmakers? >> you know, we're all just stunned. john is tough and has been in every fight, and the idea that he's facing something like this is just a shock to everyone here. he's a good man, and i know he'll be strong in this fight, the fight for his life. >> a great man. let's talk about you and the report card you've been working on over the last few weeks. you put together this report card on president trump's efforts to drain the swamp in
washington. he talked so much about it, speeches he gave about the goldman sachs partners that hillary clinton would be lining the halas of the white house with, and mind you the president has done so. you've given him an f. at least it wasn't an f-minus, and you found that his administration and his transition team has included 1993 lobbyists and corporate insiders. can you put that in context for me in terms of his entire administration and how that's impacted policies? >> so, look, washington works great right now for giant corporations. and one of the prince. reasons is because they can hire an army of lobbyists to get out there and make sure that their point of view is represented in every decision that gets made in government. it's just not working so great for the rest of america. so when trump promised to drain the swamp during a campaign, i thought that's something really important. and i want to keep track of what he does. and instead of draining the swamp, here it is, he's brought
in 193 lobbyists, corporate executives, corporate consultants, and they're in every part of government making key decisions. the department of education. what's happened they've already rolled back rules to protect student borrowers so that the corporate interests can make more money. you watch the same thing happening, for example, in the department of the treasury. they're looking at whether or not to roll back some of the regulations that were put in place after the 2008 financial crisis. and what have they done? they've come up with a list of regulations to be rolled back. and here's how it's described by the industry. it is the big bank's wish list. same kind of thing is happening
over in the drug industry. put together a team of people to try to deal with the question of rising drug costs, and donald trump puts a lobbyist in charge and now the lobbyist is coming up with an initial draft that looks like exactly what it is that the big drug companies want, not what families want. this matters to people on a day by day-by-day basis that donald trump has put the corporate lobbyists in charge of running our government. >> unform, report cards can get slid under beds, in the back of drawers. what can actually be done? when i think about some of those photographs i've seen with president trump signing executive orders, well, he has a ceo like andrew liverest of dow chemical standing next to him saying maybe we should call this the dow bill. people that make dangerous pesticides. maybe they'll be legal again.
steve schwartzman, a ceo from blackstone, joining president trump on that trip to saudi arabia, where blackstone raised a cool $40 billion in permanent capital from the saudi family. these are not just anecdotes. these are bad things. what can be done about them? >> so, the first thing we try to do is to get some accountability, and that's why senator whitehouse and i put this report together, is to try to say here's what's happening. it's one more example, just as others have done, of trying to twaef flag, trying to make it clear what's going on, because that is the first step at accountability. the second step is too to try to get the word out, i posted this on my website, i snow that senator whitehouse will be doing the same, to send it around to everybody that we can because it is only when the voices of the people are heard that we're going to be able to fight back against this. i believe in accountability for government.
right now that's going to take people across the country, it's going the take grassroots saying, wait a minute, i see what you're doing, donald trump, and it's not okay with me. that's our first step. >> knost people would not be surprised that you gave the president an f. what do you say to those who say great, elizabeth warren, this is just a partisan argument, we've heard it, you're anti-trump, what do you say to them? >> it's 193 lobbyists and corporate claonsultants that donald trump has brought in to help advise him and then help him run the government. the document is there. read the numbers. you can't ignore the facts any longer. that's what's happening in washington. and be clear, the american people know what's going on. they're not fooled. >> the american people want solutions. you've been anti-trump, opposed to the republicans' health care
efforts. president trump says, for example, in health care, single pay yes, something you have pushed for, will bankrupt america. do you believe it's a resolution that could help america? i think we have three things we need to do on the health care front. the first is we need to defend what we have right now and that means not let 32 million people get knocked off health care. when there's a vote next week as mitch mcconnell has said there will be, we need to defeat the effort to repeal the affordable care act. the second thing we need to do is bring down costs, for example, the cost of prescription drugs. i have a bill with bernie sanders and others that says we can import those drugs from canada where often they are paying one-tenth of what we're paying here in the united states. >> are there any republicans willing to work on that bill? because partisanship is the only way you're going to get anywhere. >> we are certainly reaching out and we're certainly open to
that. you know, the problem of high cost for prescription drugs is not just a democratic problem. it's a problem that faces democrats, republicans, independents. i talked to people all across massachusetts who tell me i'm paying $162 a month for this prescription drug. i could buy it in canada for less than half that. i'm paying $300 on prescription drugs, $500 on prescription drugs. and the drug companies just keep raising prices, raising prices and raising prices. we've got to be willing to push back against that and bring down the costs, bring down the costs for families and bring down the costs for insurance companies because that will help bring down the cost of insurance overall. and, yeah, when we do that, we also need to talk about how we get more coverage across america. you know, how we expand medicare so it's available to more americans. so i think we've got all three
parts, defend what we've got exexpand what we've got, and then let's have a serious conversation about how he get better coverage through medicare. those are the ways we can get full coverage and help bring down costs for all of us. >> i have to ask you about president trump's comments about his own attorney general, jeff sessions, yesterday. telling "new york times," sessions never should have recused himself and if he was going to, he should have told me before he took the job and i would have picked someone else. what do you make of this? is it almost a gift that president trump continues to -- >> no. >> -- mud dpi di the waters and ghefrt to an agenda? >> you know, no, it is not a gift. i'm here to fight for working families. it means the business for working families is not being done. trump's rash about jeff sessions are one more example of how --
he's not interested in following the law and he's not interested in protecting anyone but himself. i opposed jeff sessions for attorney general of the united states, but let's be clear, his recusing himself is simply following the law. that is what the department of justice requires. he followed the rules. for donald trump to say, gee, i really wanted an attorney general who wouldn't follow the rules is just like i said, one more example. donald trump has only one thing in mind, and that is how can everything profit donald trump. >> if you opposed jeff sessions before, now he recused himself, sounds like donald trump wants him out. do you want him to quit? >> i'd be very glad for him to quit and get someone else in as attorney general of the united states. i believe firmly jeff sessions should not be the number-one lawmaker in america. he is right now the one who is responsible for enforcing our laws, and his views on many of
those laws i think head us in the wrong direction. on civil rights, on drug, on private prisons. there are many reasons for jeff sessions not to be attorney general. >> you think president trump's next pick would be better? >> we can have that fight. but jeff sessions in major areas is trying to pull us in the wrong direction. >> elizabeth warren sending president trump back to summer school. nobody wants an f. thanks for joining me. >> take care. up next, much more from donald trump's explosive and i'm going to say it bizarre interview with "the new york times." how he defends the correlation between don junior's russian meeting and his attacks on hillary clinton. but today we've been talking about it all morning. today is the six-month mark for president trump. one thing he does get very high marks for is the stock market,
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hillary clinton and i said, i mean, that's standard political stuff. >> did you know at the time that they had the meeting? >> no, i didn't know anything about the meeting. >> that's not standard political stuff. that was more of president trump's interview with "the new york times" talking about his son and son-in-law's meeting with the russian lawyer. this comes after the white house and trump's political team said president trump was not aware of any meeting between his son, don junior, and a russian lawyer. kate kelly and jason johnson. kate, president trump is saying he heard about the request for the meet bug then saying he didn't know about the meeting. are voters going to buy this? >> i don't know if they will, but i'm not sure his base will give a darn. i mean, i think it's more of the same. i mean, he doesn't use e-mail, right so, he goes off memory many times. he has aides that help prefresh his memory when he needs that. in this case, you could make a case that he knew about it or didn't know about it. he then goes on to say, well,
you know, i talked often on the stump about -- i often beat up hillary clinton and talked about her ties to russia and receiving money for speeches and so on. so he tries to sort of equivocate. it's just not clear. >> let's play that because it doesn't necessarily matter if it's his voters who care. does robert mueller care? listen. >> you give speech that night saying you're going to gave speech about how hillary clinton's corrupt dealings with russia and other countries, and that comes just three hours after don junior -- >> number one, remember, i made many of those speeches. >> people wondered about the timing. >> i go after it all the time. >> this is ahead of their visit to capitol hill. don junior, paul manafort, jared kushner. to simply say that this is politics, we learned from "the new york times" paul manafort in the hole to russian interests 17 million bucks pap few nice meetings and a tip of the hat, that would sure help clear that kind of dough. >> just quickly, start of peter baker to bring up the time line. he wrote a story on this last week.
it was three hours late they're he promised a big bombshell on this topic so that is somewhat damning. >> at this point it's hard to believe this all happened in the building that he didn't know that he detective know in advance, we've fot 8 million people, the number of people at this meeting, manafort, kushner, boris and natasha, smirnov, everybody was in this room. >> yakov smirnoff was not in the room. >> at this point i wouldn't doubt it nap's the thing. it's so disingenuous. i have to say this. this idea that this is just common politics, you get this e-mail, if anybody here got an e-mail from a deposed african prince saying i got $20 million for you, you don't respond to that either. the president to suggest from a foreign enemy that it was just okay that he would, this is a problem. >> nigerian e-mail scammers, get don junior's e-mail address. >> exactly. >> without sounding like an apologist for the president, i think this is yet another reflection of his inexperience in politics, his somewhat narrow experience of running a private family real estate organization.
think about how he thinks about things and how he free associates. the topic of rod rosenstein comes up. he's ticked off because rosen steep is from baltimore where there are very few republicans. that's his reaction. he's not thinking in a sort of thoughtful, logical way. >> for republicans. listening to this. the only take-away should be opportunity lost. this was an opportunity of a lifetime for republicans to get to their agenda. and listen to what the president said when asked about his ties with russian businessmen. it's extraordinary. >> i mean, it's possible there's a condo or something, so, you know, i sell a lot of condo units and somebody from russia buys a condo, who knows? i don't get any money from russia. they said i own buildings in russia. i don't. they said i made money from russia. it's not my thing. i don't do that. >> no one said he owns buildings in russia. they said he got money from russia. he's a licenser. he doesn't build them and pay
for them himself. >> i have to say i think the condo point is a smart point because it's a good way to explain there might be some links there, i have connections to many, many real estate units in the u.s. and beyond if some russians bought my condo, that might be a legitimate and irrelevant thing to this investigation. he's kind of doing what he does, which is here, media, follow the ball this way, and investigation is happening over here. >> media won't fall for this nonsense but robert mueller can quickly find out if all these condos are sold to shell companies, sold at off-market properties like his estate in palm beach he buys for 40 and sells for 90. in i'm robert mueller, i don't look the other way. >> he'll fire robert mueller before anything happens and the republican party will sit there with their hands in their pockets and say we didn't know what to do. >> correct. >> how low can you go. >> i don't know. >> he loves the hip-hop. we have to take a break.
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can't forget o.j. today. in a few hours, a western nevada correctional facility will hold what many are calling the parole hearing of the century. after serving nine years for armed robbery and other charges, o.j. simpson will appear via video link before a parole board 130 miles away. simpson needs just four of the six commissioners to vote for parole to become a free man. nbc's katie beck is in nevada with more. how long before we can can expect a decision? >> this decision is expected to be handed down fairly quickly, within an hour or so of the hearing's completion, we're told. that hearing will take place in carson city. simpson will be here at the facility, video conferenced in. he will be in a room with about 15 other people, some of his own supporters, his daughter, his sister are expected to attend as well as a friend, his attorney and a case worker will all be in that room with simpson. he will be able to address the board, make his case for why he
deserves parole and also take their questions. they will be looking at a risk assessment as to whether or not they think o.j. poses a risk. they'll be looking at things like prior history, his disciplinary actions while incarcerated. they'll be looking at things like his first incarceration, age at incarceration and then they'll make a determination whether or not to grant parole once they decide on whether or not to grant or deny, they will make that decision. o.j. will not be released today. he will have to wait, at the earliest, october 1st would be the first day he would be eligible to be released. >> o.j. simpson hoping to become a free man. we'll take a break next. attorney general after a tough night hearing about that interview that president trump did with "the new york times." jeff sessions is speaking out. what he has to say. ♪
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something isn't to happen. that's all true about this white house but none of that apparently applies when it comes to trump talking to russia. in that case, notification comes from moscow. the last time trump talked to putin, which -- well, at least as far as i know, was november 21st. the first notification there was of that in the english language that trump would be speaking to putin that day, first english language notification is when reuters translated a notice from a russian based news agency that reported trump and putin would be speaking that day and it was the first any of us in this country heard of it. two weeks before that the big asia trip where the people of united states of america learned the president would be meeting on the sidelines of the asian summit with vladamir putin, and we learned that from a kremlin staffer and american reporters took that information and asked and before that the oval office meeting with president trump and russian foreign minister and russian ambassador and not only informed us in our country that event took place
and russian and and he got our record of those meetings. american media was banned from that event, while a russian state media photographer was invited into the oval office to snap happy pictures, and then distribute them. so that's how we got our record of those meetings. and then again today. we got a nice readout from vladimir putin about a conversation that took place between donald trump and vladamir putin. thereafter, the white house confirmed that, oh, yeah, that happened. why does this keep happening? why do we consistently have to get news about the behavior and the meetings and the conversations of the american president from the russian government? it is very strange. and while we're on the subject, we also got late word tonight from a new report in the washington post that right after trump announced he was running for president, he announced in june 2015 this happened in july
2015, there was yet another instance when he was offered a one on one meeting with vladimir putin, according to "the washington post" tonight, the same russia connected publicist who later set up the trump tower meeting where he promised russian government dirt on hillary clinton to the top levels of the trump campaign, a year before the meeting happened, he made a direct offer via e-mail to donald trump's assistant at trump tower telling her that he would be happy to set up a putin meeting for this new presidential candidate donald trump. trump's assistant is a woman named rona graft, i have spoken with her in the process of trying to set up trump interviews. she's very, very nice. she's very efficient. we had known that graph is on the witness list for the house intelligence committee looking into the russia scandal. "the wall street journal" reported tonight that for the house intelligence committee interview with her, trump's assistant and also and house intelligence interview with
felix sater, a russian born and part of the trump organization, who worked on the secret trump tower moscow project during the trump campaign. republicans for some reason decided that for those who interviews for graph and satyr, they would not do them on capitol hill and decided to send their staffers to new york city to do those interviews in the setting that would be more convenient for ms. graft and apparently also for mr. satyr. having staff conduct the interviews in new york, while actual members of congress are stuck back in washington for votes, i'm sure that is very convenient for those witnesses, but it has the knock-on effect of preventing any members of congress, including democrats, from sitting in on any of that questioning. democrats on the intelligence committee are reportedly not that happy about it. and you've got to imagine donald
trump, jr. being like, wait a second, i run the trump organization. my dad's assistant gets them to come here and i have to go down -- i can imagine it's awkward. a lot going on tonight. one thing we have to keep track of on the show, who works at the white house? this administration is 328 days old. in that time there has been an unusually large number of people who have turned over, who have served in the trump white house for sometime, some of them in very senior roles but got fired or chose to leave for some reason or another and i'm sure that we have missed some but just in terms of high profile jobs, we try to keep a running tally of notable officials that fled or been fired from the trump white house. the vice president's chief of staff for example has left as has the white house chief of staff, as has the deputy white house chief of staff, as has the first white house communications director and second and the white house press secretary and
vice president's press secretary and the deputy national security advisor, the deputy chief of staff on the security counsel and head of the office of government ethics, the white house chief strategists and we found out the deputy assistant to the president that goes on fox news all the time, and we found out he couldn't get a security clearance, he left, too. and also, the secretary of health and human services, he left. that's not even counting the high-profile law enforcement people that have been flung out like acting attorney general sally yates. and the fbi director james comey and the dozens of u.s. attorneys they fired on no notice, get out by midnight tonight. it's a long list of people that served in significant roles who are already gone. well, this week we got two more names to add to the list. one of whom got a lot of media attention for her departure.
her name is omarosa manigault newman. she was the communications director for the office of public liaison, which reminds me the director of the office of public liaison, that's another person that left. can we add that guy to the list, too? thank you. mrs. manigault newman was the communications director for the office of public liaison, which is not a high-profile office, let alone is that a high profile job in that office. the beef with her among white house reporters is that nobody was quite sure what she did at all but she is personally a high-profile person because of her reality show career. her departure this week attracted a lot of attention but there's been one other departure from the white house this week that's attracted very little attention.
but it's for somebody with a much bigger job. her name is dina powell. before her appointment to the white house, she was working at goldman sachs. gary cohen was previously the president of goldman sachs, so when she came on board, it was thought that maybe she would be in gary cohen's orbit. she was named the deputy seek security advisor for strategy demand that role, a lot of normal republicans or even like never-trump republicans, they put faith in her thinking she might be a potentially moderating influence in the administration more broadly but in the national security council specifically. and the national security counsel and policy making in this administration is of particular concern. remember the national security counsel initially was set up by mike flynn and we all know how well that worked out. and remember, after flynn got
appointed, after flynn being appointed national security advisor, the next shutter of fear that went through national security circles is when trump campaign ceo and white house -- the trump campaign ceo arranged to get himself a seat on the national security counsel, as well. remember that? people are like really, steve bannon has a permanent seat on the national security counsel? this is a guy that run as right wing website and makes movies how the "duck dynasty" guy looks like jesus. really? permanent seat on the national security counsel alongside michael flynn running it? i mean, i don't mean to pick on mr. bannon. i know he has had a bad week. alabama was as much his humiliation as the president's. remember, the whole point of bannon stoking the roy moore candidacy was to flex his steve bannon muscles and prepare for a global domination plan to run against every sitting republican
senator like he did with roy moore. well, given how that worked out, the only people that may want to pay steve bannon to enact that plan now are probably democrats. steve bannon is having a bad week. everybody thought he might be this fierce spector in trump era politics in some continuing way. but, you know, if you think before this disastrous failure he had in alabama this week, the last big round of attention he got was when he was fired from the white house. before that, it was the time he was fired not from the white house but security counsel. they demoted him from the national security counsel then fired him from the white house. flynn and bannon were a weird idea for the national security council. both of them. flynn ended up resigning in the russia scandal for things that resulted in him pleading guilty and now he's looking at a potential prison sentence.
bannon left not that long after but those guys had really set up the national security counsel in the first place and once they were gone, it raised the question of what would happen to the people they installed, forgive me, not kind. what would happen to the odd balls that they had installed? what would happen to the free thinkers they had installed at very senior levels of the national security counsel, which is a very important thing. in particular, when it came to dena powell, there was speculation on the national security counsel she might replace this guy. dena powell's title was deputy national security advisor for strategy. his title wasd deputy assistant to the president for strategic planning. that would be like if i came to work every day and i was the host of "the rachel maddow show," but there was somebody
else on staff who was the host of "rachel maddow show." basically we have the same show. i expect there would be a fight to death and only one of us would keep the job in the long run. dena powell was expected to replace this man kevin harrington, one of the original let's call them free thinkers installed in a very important national security position back when steve bannon and mike flynn were in charge of that sort of thing. he came to this very senior job at the national security counsel with zero experience in foreign policy. zero. now he's supposed to be directing strategy for national security for the united states of america? never worked in foreign policy a day in his life, however, he had worked at one of peter teal's hedge funds. peter teal, the anti democracy german born billionaire who made his money at paypal, who bankrupted the gawker website for printing things about him he did not like.
his work experience for running strategy at the national security counsel is he worked at a peter teal hedge fund and before that worked at a different peter teal hedge fund. well, this week we learned that not only did dena powell not end up replacing him, she is now leaving the administration, and he is still at the national security counsel. and we know that in part because "the washington post" reports today in the remarkable epic 50-source story that he, kevin harrington is one of the prorussia officials remaining in the white house who actually supports president trump's compulsive submistiveness toward russia and putin in particular. for kevin harrington, though, his motivation for his pro russia positions is reportedly a little -- it's free thinking. is that the word we're using?
somebody that believes the end is near and only putin can save us. and this is like point 34 that we learn today out of 100 pieces of information the washington broke with this big story. according to the post and this remarkable story, there is an important national security story to tell about the consequences of trump refusing to admit to or grapple with in any meaningful way the fact that russia interfered meaningful in the election that made him president. according to the post's reporting, these are just some of the other important pieces of news they break today. according to the post, the president's daily intelligence
brief is structured by the briefers to avoid upsetting him with any information he might not like to hear about russia. and i have to say this is a piece of reporting that raises troubling concerns whether or not the president actually reads, whether he reads intelligence briefings. quote, a former senior intelligence official familiar with the matter says russia related intelligence that might draw trump's ire is in some cases included in the written assessment and not raised orally because then you can be sure he won't see it because it's written? the post also in this new piece today describes an extraordinary, what they call extraordinary cia intelligence that captured putin's specific instructions to attack the election. the stream of post election intelligence about putin apparently has given the intelligence community information that putin believes the operation to go after the election last year was quote more than worth the effort. that would suggest russia will
keep trying to do more of it but the post reports that trump has never convened a cabinet level meeting on russian interference or what to do about it. in terms of the national security counsel, one official said there is an unspoken understanding within the nsc that to raise the matter of russia is to acknowledge its validity, which the president would see as an affront. after the new national security adviser, h.r. mcmaster brought in an expert, trump demeaned and insulted her in a way hard to believe for what we know about this president and his white house quote in one of her first encounters with the president, an oval office meeting in preparation for a call with putin on syria, trump appeared to mistake fiona hill for a member of the clerical staff. handing her a memo and instructing her to rewrite it.
when hill responded with a perplexed look, trump became intimidated for not listening and mcmaster followed her. she's the russian expert on the national security counsel a legit russian expert who was brought into the national security counsel post the flynn and bannon debacle. just remarkable. we've got greg miller here to talk about remarkable reporting including the damming and brand-new revelation even though they got caught planning to unilaterally lift sanctions and congress got alerted to that fact and blocked them from doing it, even after those efforts were exposed by congress and press and became a subject of great scandal in washington, after that, the administration and secretary of state rex tillerson continued to offer the russians in secret that the
trump administration would help them out on sanctions. that they were happy to give them back some of what obama had taken away in punishment for them hacking the election. remarkable, remarkable reporting from "the washington post." greg miller joins us next. ♪ give ancestrydna, the only dna test that can trace your origins to over 150 ethnic regions- and open up a world of possibilities. ♪ save 30% for the holidays at ancestrydna.com turn up your swagger game with one a day men's. ♪ a complete multivitamin with key nutrients plus b vitamins for heart health. your one a day is showing.
>> that is true and i can bear eyewitness testimony. [ laughter ] >> bathroom diplomacy and thanks to extraordinary fly on the wall, fly on the wall, reporting from "the washington post" we know lbj is not the only american president known to mix business with bathroom. this is a section from today's reporting that's about the president's negativity toward nato and our nato allies particularly german chancellor angela merkel. quote, his demeanor with the german leader was in striking contrast with the encounters with putin and authoritarian figures. who were the three guys in the world he most admires? president xi of china, the president of turkey, and putin, said one trump adviser. they're all the same guy. merkel has never fit into that trump pantheon. before her arrival, senior white house aids witnessed an odd scene that some saw for the visit.
russia news is not put in the oral briefing, only the written brief or buried so it won't upset him. are the briefers concerned about this? intelligence agencies concerned about this in terms of the president not having access to this information? >> i mean, so the answer is sort of yes and no, i guess. the intelligence officials we talked to emphasize they are not holding important developments out of the briefing. they are professionals. the daily brief is written by career expert staff. they aren't going to do that. this is their job and mission and a sworn duty one official told us but the way it's structured undergoes -- they think that through to avoid upsetting trump, to avoid getting the briefing off as you just read as one of the people voted off the rails by raising something that's going to upset him directly. they do this in a couple ways. one is to put sensitive stuff in
print so that they can say yes, we delivered this to the white house and not withholding but not calling it out orally in his presence but adjusting the order or adjusting areas of emphasis and rachel, this is not the only example in our story today of how senior aides or senior advisors tiptoe around and our story talks about what one advisor calls the five and a half foot rule on really sensitive stuff likely to upset him where you have a consensus among lower aides to avoid carrying those decisions into the oval office out of fear you'll get an interruption from him or an overrule of something that others already agree is sensible policy. >> greg, let me ask you about another type of sensitivity in terms of the president and russia information.
back in june, i think you were one of the reporters in the washington post story about an intelligence bombshell that was delivered to then president obama that included sourcing deep inside the russian government that detailed vladamir putin's direct involvement in the campaign to disrupt and discredit the u.s. presidential race, and that intel included putin's specific instructions. the overarching theme of your story is about the president being unwilling to engage with this information that russia interfered in the election. do we know if president trump seen that bombshell intelligence reporting detailing specific orders from putin? >> absolutely. that's one of the things we reported today is is that when the senior intelligence officials travel to new york after trump won the election but before he was inaugurated on january 6th this year, they laid out for him all of the most highly classified components of
that intelligence case. this was one of the most critical pieces of evidence that they put on the table for the president. and as we wrote, these officials included former director of national intelligence jim clapper were worried that they were going to be thrown out of the room. they were prepared for a blowup and that ends up being a very subdued meeting and trump seems to go along with this and seems oddy acquiescent on this. they regard this as progress. he's coming around to accept this but as they over a period of several days continue to try to lock that in with him, he gets very agitated, starts railing how the intelligence can't be trusted and for him to admit this would be to fall into a trap and there forward, they never recover what they felt they had in that moment.
that acceptance of the case. >> can i ask you just one follow up question on that particular point about that very sensitive intel, obviously, there is a lot of drama around the idea the cia has information that reflects putin's words and instructions in terms of ordering this campaign or discussing this campaign. is there any concern among the intelligence community that discussing sources and methods like that about somebody close enough to putin to get that information that there might be a concern in a security concern for that source in giving that information to the president, given his relationship with putin? >> you know, that's a really difficult question. we've asked intelligence officials about that. i heard officials say they do have those concerns and there is that hesitation but that the president is the president and it's not -- and their job is to inform the president, the elected president.
that is their duty. >> very difficult stuff. compelling, compelling reporting. these are difficult issues. the heart in your throat stuff. greg miller, again, congratulations on this piece today. thanks for being here. >> thank you very much. >> a lot more to get to. busy night. stay with us. ♪shostakovich playing ♪
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republicans control the house with 239 seats shown in red. democrats have 193 seats shown here in blue. there are three vacancies, those are little gray ones down front. of the 239 red seats in the house right now, a chunk of the red squares are republicans that are nervous about last year's elections because a chunk of the red squares represent districts where hillary clinton beat trump. they picked the democrat for president that happened in 23 districts across the country and is that must have been exciting on election night. if you're one of the growing red squares thinking about election, that has to be worrying. anyone can concede in the 23 districts, the political wins are blowing in the democrat's direction for next year. those are places that supported hillary clinton. republicans are worried about those seats. but here is the chart part.
come election time, if the wins continue to blow in democrats direction the way they are right now, those 23 will not be the only vulnerable seats that are keeping republicans up at night. since the 2016 election, there have been 68 contested special elections across the country for seats in state legislatures, in -- there has been a few u.s. house races and the senate race in alabama and watching the races play out is fascinating on the individual level but also fascinating in terms of the trend they represent. turns out it's not just alabama. if you look at the presidential results, a lot of races all across the country show democrats making really big gains. if you look at the results in the special elections since november, on average, democrats have improved margins by ten points. so compared to november, if that ten-point swing means if they won by two points in november, they're winning by 12 now.
if they lost by 15, they are within five points on average. put the chart back up there. come election time in 2018 when every single one of these squares is up for reelection because the house is up every two years. if the winds keep blowing the democrat's direction the way they are now, democrats would grab not just the 23 red sheets where voters went for hillary clinton. a ten-point swing would have democrats flipping another 39 seats, as well. if you apply the average ten-point swing democrats have been enjoying in special elections since november, if that momentum still applies to races next year, that swing will have nancy pelosi measuring the drapes in paul ryan's office. a ten-point swing would cut republicans in washington off at the knees. so if you are a republican in congress right now, what these special elections are doing to you, they are giving you a horseshoe size lump in your stomach now. if republicans lose the house
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in a very conservative corner of iowa. if you're chuck grassley, that counts as a change in the weather. the day after those elections, chuck grassley announced that he would no longer support two of president trump's most controversial nominees for judgeships. after that announcement from grassley, those nominees got pulled by the white house. then a similar dynamic played out last night with another trump nominee. this time at the epa. the president's nominee to lead chemical safety at the epa spent his career fighting against chemical safety rules on behalf of companies bound by them. he's gone now, too. he withdrew last night after two republican senators came forward, something changed their minds. they decided they were no longer going to support him. outright rejection of the president's nominees of the president's own party is a new thing in the trump era.
turns out alabama senate elections have consequences. if you're a lawmaker and the president can make or break you by offering or with holding support that might factor into your decisions for supporting some of his embarrassing nominees. but now that they keep getting solidly rejected at the ballot box by the voters in red states, maybe the president's opinion doesn't matter to you as much. tonight, republicans are racing toward a vote on the big tax bill that the president is very much behind in theory they should be able to get this thing passed with just their own votes. tonight, that's looking wobbly. senator marco rubio announced he'll oppose the republican tax bill unless it's expanded -- unless it expands a child tax credit and followed by utah senator mike lee who is undecided on the bill, too. senator bob corker voted against the bill the last time. a no from rubio and lee would be it. it would be done. whether rubio and lee are ready to torpedo the bill remains unclear.
it doesn't seem like they are the only republican senators ready to balk. could this week's republican disaster in alabama lead to furtherer bleeding among republicans on capitol hill for a very, very unpopular piece of legislation that the president nevertheless wants? hold that thought. remember how the economic crash was supposed to be a wake up call for our government? people all across the country lost their savings, their pensions and their jobs. i'm tom steyer and it turned out that the system that had benefited people like me who are well off, was, in fact, stacked against everyone else. it's why i left my investment firm and resolved to use my savings for the public good. but here we are nine years later and this president and the republican congress are making a bad situation even worse. they won't tell you that their so called "tax reform" plan is really for the wealthy and big corporations, while hurting the middle class. it blows up the deficit and that means fewer investments in education, health care and job creation.
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republican tax bill, either out at your representative's office in the district or capitol hill, today brought news that the republicans may have lost the votes among their own senators to get this thing passed. senator marco rubio and senator mike lee both republicans said they will be no votes on the tax bill unless it's changed in ways they like. is this thing potentially really at risk? joining us now is reporter siobhan hughes. she's within covering this on the hill. i appreciate your time. >> happy to be here. >> i'm trying to do the republican math here. we have questions of rubio and lee. three others as far as i know, corker, collins and flake haven't committed to supporting it and then cochran and mccain with health issues and seems like a lot of wiggle room in terms of whether the republicans will have the votes. do you think they have the votes? >> the most likely scenario is that republicans pass the bill but today what we saw is that it is no longer impossible for this
bill to be sunk. the math you described is a problem for republicans because they can lose no more than two votes and still pass this bill. you have listed far more than two republicans who can potentially be against this bill. >> in terms of the timing here, one of the things that i think has frustrated people who are against the bill or worry about the implications is they're going fast with it, a huge change to the tax code. they didn't spend time debating it and there's no external constraint that forces them to pass it so quickly. is it possible that they're going to have to spend more time either waiting for a score on this or horse trading on this that it might push it into the new year where the math would change against them after doug jones is sworn in? >> it's highly unlikely, but again, you can't say. so far, the senate we expected to vote on monday no longer has that on the schedule. vice president mike pence delayed a trip to the middle east to be here to cast a
tiebreaking vote. there is the delicate issue of the health of senators john mccain and thad cochran. they're wild cards, x-factors and then the question of how you come up with the money for the extent of the changes senators lee and rubio want. that's $80 billion, not easy to find. >> they $80 billion change and the whole thing scored to add trillion and a half dollars to the deficit anyway. are they constrained fiscally they can't add more to the debt without changing something else fundamental about the bill or couldn't they just put that on the tab? >> no. you are right. they're constraint is 1.5 trillion and held themselves to that and now stuck with that number so they have to take something away from somebody else and you can imagine it ruffles feathers and don't know where they'll get the money to appease people. >> we've been watching protesters and constituents making heartfelt, very compelling to my mind at least
personal cases to senators like lisa murkowski in alaska, susan collins in maine, a lot of senators who might conceivably be on the bubble about this with personal pressure. is there a sign they're being moved by those kinds of appeals by constituents? >> so far there isn't a sign there would be a move, because these republicans are dedicated to the notion that on balance what they are doing is going to be better for people. one little wrinkle today is rod blum a member of the freedom caucus, an iowa republican, put out a tweet saying he was listening to his constituents and trying to make recommendations about what should be in the tax bill. seats are like that are looking at risk. mimi walters of california has had jitters and there's some of that but maybe not enough in the senate to change minds. >> siobhan hughes, thank you. appreciate it. >> thank you. >> all right. we'll be right back. lower back pain has met its match
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that vote today was strange for a couple of reasons. one is that it directly overturned a decision that same commission made under three years ago. the fcc reversed itself on a huge, huge issue with implications for every internet user which is almost every american. and huge implications for every telecom company in the united states. reversed itself in a span of less than 36 months. the other reason this decision today was weird is because what they did today is wildly unpopular. like, toenail fungus unpopular. i should mention here that msnbc's parent company comcast is one of the nation's largest internet service providers and when we're talking about human beings, there are no human beings in favor of what the fcc did today. corporations are standing to profit for it, sure. actual humans, very few. the fcc made the decision despite the massive unpopularity and despite the fact that yesterday 19 states attorneys general asked them not to do it
immigration. as you pointed out, he spent a three-day weekend in mara large reminding the president that the midterms are coming up. on top of the vocal criticism from ann coulter. we are told that the president was already frustrated that there has been a lack of progress in his view in building the border wall. all of this was exacerbated with the reports on fox news with the caravans coming.
it isn't just on the immigration issue as you pointed out. it is a myriad of topics the president is touching on. amazon, nafta, mexico. some may say he has lost some of his moderating forces in the white house including hope hicks former communication director who left last week and this is the first week the president was without her by his side. even when she was here, he still went through these fits of fury. at the bottom line here is this is the president being the president. >> it is obviously not the first time that the president has gone after multiple groups in just one day. >> reporter: absolutely. i mean, if you look at his twitter feed, it appears that
this is someone in his seventies is not going to change and this, the accumulation of the staffing changes at the white house have been to, you know, take off some of the guard rails, some of the restraints that he previously had. let's be honest, it is not like he had serious guard rails or restraints previously. he loves this platform or the fact that any thought that pops into his head can be immediately disseminated to his people and he is very easily worked up on certain issues especially immigration. worked up about the omnibus bill that he claims didn't want to sign and had no funding for this number one priority, this wall. the funding said could not be used for anything except see-through fencing.
so easily worked up on the circulating media right now. so this is classic trump. we are going to be having this same conversation a year from assuming he is still in offeric. this is who he is. >> molly, i wonder how worried he is about the base. we are going to talk later. that he is getting this message that he needs to be fearful of getting soft in immigration. do you think there is truth to that, people in your base are starting to wonder where you are in immigration. >> that is clearly the message he is getting from somewhere. and you know see it popping up here and there in conservative media which is interesting because up to this point,
conservative media has been an a amen chorus. so it is very interesting to see conservative media holding trump accountable for some of his promising particularly on immigration which was such a signature issue. it is hard to blame him for being frustrated. in his view to the trump base. and seo you see him getting restless and wanting to do tariffs and something about immigration. and having fewer moderating influences around him. and we in washington know that congress doesn't do anything in even number of years. but if you are joe six pack, that doesn't make sense. that is stupid. why can't the congress keep going. part of that, you can't blame
trump for being annoyed. >> yeah, ryan, i guess the bigger question is whether the president understands like what daca is. he says big flows are trying to get in to u.s. to get in on the act. and that doesn't apply. he tweeted out a picture of fencing on the border that he says is the beginning of building the wall when we went down there and it is just rehabbing basic fencing that was put up in the bush administration. >> in the omnibus, there wasn't any money for his wall. it specifically said not allowed to be built. his tweets are hodgepodge for facts and fiction about immigration policy. you know, sometimes he talks about mexico having this tough immigration policy which it actually does.
2014 they changed the law in mexico because of the crisis on the southern border and aggressive about deporting people from central america something that trump sometimes points out. now he is arguing that they are letting all of these people through. couple of points on daca, one, of course president trump ended the program. it doesn't exist right now. and even if it did exist, it would not mean necessarily that anybody crossing the border would be eligible for it. and he made this point that if he had 51 votes in the senate that he could pass what he wanted on immigration. and that is not true either. that is not quite right either. so a lot of errors in his tweet over the weekend today. >> thanks very much. the president just tweeted again, and more on that next. also hear from a former white house chief of staff who has
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days off and we try to unplug. the president lets his tweet flag fly. he just tweeted again, as ridiculous as it sounds the laws of our country do not allow us to send those crossing our southern border back where they came from. a whole big wasted procedure must take place. then this came later, honduras, mexico and many other countries that the u.s. is very generous to sends many of their people to our country through our weak immigration policies. we are talking about what it might means and what it says who the president might be listening to and who is not anymore including chief of staff john kelly. we have learned that kelly has
little to do these things. leon panetta has a unique perspective on this. >> where do you think daca stands right now given the president's tweets this weekend declaring daca dead and blaming the democrats. >> i don't think the president's rationale is working at all with the american people certainly with latinos and more importantly with the congress. the president is the one who got rid of the daca program and created this crisis. he has failed to be able to work out any kind of approach on capital hill that was acceptable to him to try to fix the situation and now he is standing back and basically blaming everybody else for the problem and i don't think it is working. >> you now have a situation where it seems like, you know, people still read the president's tweet and reporters
report on them, but it doesn't seem like anybody on capitol hill pays them any attention. is that your impression as well? >> yeah, i don't think there is any question that one of the things that has happened over the course of these last many months of this administration is that the congress has gotten to the point where it simply doesn't take the president's tweets in particular with any degree of credibility. they have experienced a president who says one thing one day and says something else the next day. they know better than to take any action based on what he is urging because in the end, they are not sure whether he will stick to it. so they basically keep quiet and do what they have to do without responding in any way to what the president is saying. >> these tweets obviously came after, you know, he was at mara
largo. and he was with his chief of staff. do you think that kelly was not with the president while all of this happened? >> it was not a good situation in the white house. we have known that for a while. but the reality is that the whole purpose of a chief of staff is to be able to work with the president to have a trusting relationship with the president. and to be able to at least provide some degree of discipline with regards to how that president presents his positions to the country. not being there in mar-a-lago and having a group of individuals visit mar-a-lago that look like the bar scene from star wars and then for him to start tweeting based on that kind of conversation is just, i think, another reflection of the chaos that this president engages in as president. >> you are talking about the bar
scene in star wars, i wasn't going to quite putting it like that, but you have steven miller, sean hannity, the bright lights of fox news. don king who is really, i don't need to describe don king other than he stomped someone to death once. how unusual is it for the president to echo those around him than set an agenda himself. it is normal to have people to have like minds around them. but it is interesting the extent to not only watching fox news but consulting with these people. >> i think what we all have to do is remind ourselves of how presidents have always acted in the past whether they were republicans or democrats. normally, presidents of course
they want to meet with people that are friendly to them and most presidents have done that. but when it comes to policy, when it comes to pronouncements by the president of the united states, normally, what every president i've known has done is to engage his chief of staff and the responsible staff in the white house or military leaders depending on what the issue is to sit down and have a policy discussion in which they arrive at a decision by the president and then they develop a process for presenting that decision to the american people. this is the only president i've ever known who is basically thrown that whole process out the window. >> it is interesting, i remember back from the start of the administration you raising concerns about the make up of the white house, the weakness of the chief of staff. how people didn't have individual lanes of authority.
people could wander in and out of the oval office. several advisers have told him he doesn't need a chief of staff or communication director. what kind of an impact would it have if he eliminated those positions. >> in many ways it feels like that is the case right now, even with john kelly chief of staff, this president goes off and does whatever he wants to do. tweets whatever he wants to say and conducts policy by his tweets. and so you very much have a situation in which a president of the united states is basically out there kind of operating on his own. now most presidents usually have a support system. they have staff, chief of staffs policy individuals who have experienced in the areas they
are involved with. we are in never never land with this president. not knowing from day-to-day what he is going to say what he is going to tweet or what he is going to do. >> secretary panetta, i appreciate it. thank you very much. >> thank you. >> the president's barrage of tweets took aim on daca. i will talk to jorge ramos on his perspective. dr. scholl's. born to move.
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fox news. jorge ramos has spent time defending. do you think he is right? do you think there is a political will to get things done from this president? >> i don't see any political will from this president. the president who killed daca is donald trump. he did that last september. he didn't have to do that. he was offered from the democrats to have daca approved for a few miles of the border and he said no. i don't think president trump wants to do anything that might favor up to 2 million daca kids, dreamers and the person who did it was precisely donald trump. >> i mean, he continues, he is blaming the democrats for
killing daca. >> i don't think he is right. look, it was president obama who in 2012 established daca and it is president donald trump who killed daca. they want to have some kind of negotiation with the president. they offer him up to 300-350 mails of border of wall and he said no. look, we have been hearing all kinds of things about president trump. he said this was going to be a bill of love. that he had the heart to helped dreamers. he is not going to do it. i think something happened during the weekend. we are dealing with the most anti immigrant president since the 1950s. not only killing daca, he wants to end legal immigration. he has arrested 30% more people
than president obama. i don't think this president is going to do anything for the dreamers and be the dreamers know that. >> a supreme court hearing ensure that daca is going to be in place at least during the fall. >> i don't think congress is going to do anything about it with a republican majority. they cannot only approve daca, they can help the dreamers and also have immigration reform if they want to. they don't want to do it. for the dreamers, they have two options. one is to wait for the courts to rule on this. and the other one is what they already call plan b. and plan b is to wait until 2020 to see if donald trump is going to be re-elected or not. and for many of them, donald trump is not an option right now. and the real wall right now on immigration is called donald trump. trump is the wall.
>> the president tweeted that these big flows of people are all trying to take advantage of daca and they want in on the act. i mean, just technically that is not true, no one can enroll in daca, what do you think is going on here? >> he has no idea what he is talking about. he precisely said these caravans, first of all, there are no caravans, there is ungro ungroup -- one group. every year they do it and their purpose. and we talked to univision, spoke to the spokesperson, and they clearly say their purpose is not to come illegally to the united states. their focus is to bring attention to the violence. they cannot take advantage of
daca. to apply for daca, you would have to have been here in this country before 2007. 11 years ago. i don't know what the president is talking about. >> the president accused mexico also in his words doing very little. the relationship between president trump and mexico's president has been chilly and this cannot help and now the fate of nafta is further in doubt. >> this is not helping. even though the mexican government released also statement saying that mexico and the u.s. are cooperating on immigration. the fact is that since donald trump announced hiss candidacy on june 2015, nothing has been good in the relationship between mexico and the united states. >> jorge ramos, thanks very
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defending the move that critics are calling pro trump propaganda. sinclair broadcast owns hundreds across the country. a script that sounded pretty much like what the president would have to say. >> false news has become too common on social media. more alarming, some media outlets publish this -- push their own personal bias and agenda to control exactly what people think and this is extremely dangerous to our democracy. >> after that video went viral the president tweeted and i quote so funny to watch fake news networks among the most
dishonest groups of -- the company defending the promos as a journalistic. >> all too common on social media. >> reporter: identical script read by local news anchors across the country. stations all controlled by one company, the sinclair broadcast company. >> reporter: the tone sounding early similar. >> this is extremely dangerous to our democracy. >> this is extremely dangerous to our democracy. >> reporter: done to quote reach maximum reach frequency. it is the latest move by a media
giant that critics say is pushing pro trump propaganda. >> former fbi director james comey testified. >> reporter: last year senior advisor bor ris epstein was hired by sinclair. >> the media coverage of this administration seems to be hype and little substance. >> reporter: mandated by corporate bosses. has rankled news room for cutting into local news time. in the run up to the election the trump campaign struck a deal with sinclair. better news coverage in return to more access to then candidate trump. most viewers don't know their local news is being shaped by a
national conglomerate. sinclair nows owns or controls 193 stations and markets across the country. the company is poised to control even more since a bid to by tribune media will give sinclair access to 72% of every household in the nation. most of sinclair stations are cnn affiliates meaning cnn shares context and resources with them and vice versa. ac 360 made attempts to have a sinclair representative on the program to no success. fair and objective reporting. and for specifically asking the public to hold our news rooms accountable. gary tuchman, cnn, new york. >> i spoke with chris ruddy who
frequently speaks with the president and here is what he had to say. >> i agree with the sentiment of the sinclair editorial. i agree with the president that the media should not be calling sinclair unfair. if you look at their local news reporting has been generally fair and not biased. i have watched a number of their stations. that said, there is a tremendous dangerous when major tv net works are homogenizing and packaging news at the local level. >> joining me npr media adviser, as well as dan abrams. can you remember though anything like this before? >> no. two things that are proublitrouo
me is number one, local stations prides themselves on independence. and then it detracts from that argument. maybe the most important thing to me is the lack of transparency. if sinclair wants to come out to say there has been media liberal bias out there for years out there, it is time to combat that. fair enough. a lot of people would agree with them. that the mainstream media has tended to be left of center. but to pretend this isn't that kind of statement. to pretend this is a statement of how good we are as local news reporter and go in depth and get the real story feels disingenuous and that is my bigger problem here. >> david, what they are claiming what they are talking about is not actually what they were talking.
i know you spoke with scott livingston. >> he said this is a differentiation for us. let me be clear, when i used to be a reporter for the "baltimore sun," they did some of the best reporting locally in the market. what they are doing is trashing much of the rest of the media. he says they are really expressing concerns about the way fake stories get reported. but you know, the echoes of president trump's rhetoric are so very strong and as dan says i think we have every right to present this as their corporate belief. they are trading on the trust that many of these local news anchors have built with their audiences. not simply by dent of what they are saying, but by dent of the
fact they deposit snt that they say it all. simply reading it from a teleprompter. >> it is not if they are actually saying fake stories that are ginned up online. they don't use any specific examples of what consider fake story and it sounded from the way all the anchors are reading is talking about reporters like magg maggie haberman, that all of these people are doing one side reporting. >> of course they are talking about the liberal media. we can sit here and pretend that maybe that is not what they are talking about, but they are talking about the liberal media. i don't think it is okay to just pretend this is just a statement by the anchors. and david makes a good point,
these anchors are in a tough spot. people are saying they should all quit and stand up and say they are done. that is a nice principal point to make but a lot harder for these anchors who these days those jobs are tough to find. if they say i won't do it, they will be celebrated by some, they will be lionized by many in a particular community but they also may lose their job. so you are putting them in a difficult spot to make that point and particularly many on the left many demanding of them don't say it, if they say you have to say it, then quit. boy, that is a tough spot to put all of these anchors in. >> david, the president's tweet in support of sinclair, i'm not sure it helps sinclair with what it is trying to accomplish. sinclair is saying this isn't
about left or right, it is about us expressing our values of being fair. i am not sure the president weighing on the side of sinclair, helps their point. >> it is hard to look at this controversy over these statements being read aloud by anchors. in the absence of how sinclair handles themselves both on the air and off the air. looking to take over 30 more stations. and the reason that matters is they are nationalizing their coverage. and a lot of that national becomes. >> thank you very much. new reporting on the mueller investigation to tell you about. the "wall street journal" reporting details on that ahead.
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"the wall street journal" tonight reports that special counsel robert mueller is investigating possible links between longtime trump adviser roger stone and wikileaks founder julian assange. in its report, the newspaper says it has an e-mail dated august 4th, 2016, in which stone wrote he'd had dinner with assange. then as now pretty much confined to the ecuadorian embassy in london. an e-mail stone tells the paper was a joke. i'm joined now by one of the reporters who wrote the story, shelby holiday. shelby, roger stone says this isn't true, that he never dined with assange and that, quote, it's not what you say. it's what you do. this was said in jest. that's not dissuaded mueller's team based on your reporting from actually looking into it, correct? >> correct. there's an people and it says he dined with julian assange. he says it's a joke.
he did not deny that he actually wrote this e-mail. he said it was all just a big joke, claiming he had been in touch with julian assange. we do know after he wrote this e-mail, he went on to tell a crowd in florida he had been in contact with julian assange, and his statements have shifted over the past year. he told the house intelligence committee according to reports that he spoke to assange through an intermediary, but when we approached him about this story, he said he never talked to assange in 2016, especially on that day, on august 3, 2016. if you pull back and look the at the time line here, this comes a few days -- his e-mail comes a few days after president trump called on russia to find hillary clinton's missing e-mails. and it also comes after reported contacts between paul manafort, who is facing a number of charges, and a man that the special counsel's office said hinted at is linked to russian intelligence, konstantin kilimn kilimnik. that time line leading up to this e-mail is very curious. then following the e-mail, roger
stone went on twitter and praised julian assange. he went on to say liberals want wikileaks to stand down, but they won't. the payload is coming. so he predicted this e-mail release for months after the e-mail that said he'd dined with julian assange. >> do you know whether ecuadorian officials in london have been cooperating with mueller's team? obviously assange is holed up at the embassy there for years. if there actually was a dinner with roger stone, it would have had to have been at the embassy? >> that's unclear. also julian assange was not available to respond to comment. he has not had internet access off and on recently, so it's hard to know. roger stone actually sent us a screen grab. we gave him multiple days to show -- to prove to us that he was not in london because that's where he'd have to be. all he sent uses with a screen grab of what appeared to be a flight booking with the name roger. he said he was flying from los angeles to miami on that night and couldn't possibly have been in london.
but i've talked to different prosecutors, and some say dining doesn't necessarily have to mean that he was there in person. he could have called him on the phone and caught him during dinner, or maybe they had face timed. other prosecutors say that's pretty concrete language and dining would be dining. but at this point there's no -- beyond the e-mail, beyond the screen shot booking, we don't have any proof that roger stone was or was not in london. and he wouldn't -- he didn't provide any other evidence. he scoffed at me when i asked if he could put me in touch with people he had been with on that day. and he sort of just laughed the whole thing off. even when i asked, is there a 2016 on the screen shot, he said, are you kidding me? so it's hard to know. it's hard to know, and even people close to roger stone say they aren't exactly sure when to believe him and when he's telling the truth or when he's not. >> yeah. i mean there is sort of a performance art at times to some of his statements in the past. >> right. he calls himself a political trickster, and if you watched the documentary, get me roger stone, he actually really loves
this reputation, that he pulls off political tricks, and sometimes he does things -- he says he's never broken the law, but that he does things that sort of raise eyebrows and stir the pot, i guess you could say. what's unclear is if he was communicating with -- if he was communicating with wikileaks and also guccifer, if he's talking to these two groups that spread hacked e-mails, hillary clinton's e-mails before the election, did he know that they were working in tandem with russia as u.s. intelligence agencies have said, and did he know -- did he have knowledge of a hack and still encouraged the release of these e-mails? that would be a crime under the federal election -- i'm sorry -- the computer fraud and abuse act. even if you know of the crime, you didn't commit the crime, but you helped spread or helped disseminate the e-mails, you could be in trouble. >> yeah. shelby holiday, appreciate the reporting. just ahead, president trump
goes on a weekend tweet storm and declares daca dead. he's also on the attack once again against the mainstream media. no surprise there. the latest on all of that ahead.
must be talking to don jr. so he erased them. the expert is going through them trying to figure out a few things like is is a recording of a recording? that he cut it off at the time the? did to go back to laboratory whatever he had and cut it off? >> harris: it didn't stop there, also went after cohen reclaim the president knew about that 2016 trump tower meeting between trump campaign officials and a russian attorney. giuliani says it's flat-out not true. >> is wild, crazy, and are out of their minds. he did not participate in any meeting of the russian transaction. the other meeting said he was never there. at least four separate witnesses who say that against a guy who has been proven to be one of the biggest liars in america. >> harris: one top democrat is not dismissing michael cohen's
allegations. senator patrick leahy says it's time for donald trump jr. to come back before the senate judiciary committee to answer them, but this time in public under oath. what do you think? where are we? is the story moving forward where we mired in an angry x attorney? >> guy: i can tell you this. a place at the president does not want to be is having his current attorney firing back at his longtime attorney. it's not a healthy spot for team trump because michael cullen was a trusted fixer and attorney and confidant for many years for president trump prior to him being president and if he has decided it is in his interest to flip on trump whether he's telling the new truths or inventing new stories to help his own self, save his own skin, and that is a war of words that is not particularly helpful to trump. for example, watching rudy giuliani go on tv and pursing whether certain recordings cut off at a certain time and asking why that's the case, not a
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he is constantly contradicting himself on television. a couple months ago, he called michael cohen an honest man. >> harris: he did not know about this tape and that's what he's been saying. >> adrienne: now he's disparaging the credibility of the tape. i think the last person who donald trump and his current attorney would want to criticize is michael cullen. michael cohen knows a lot. it's been his attorney for years. >> kennedy: they were so terrified and obviously the president and his associates know the content of the meetings that they have with michael cohen in his office and some of the phone conversations, if they were so worried, that's where you would come up with radio silence. not necessarily from democrats. >> harris: whatever is gettable, he wants it. speaking whenever i hear the clinton cleaner out there defending the trump, my ears, i just feel like i want to watch them out with something because it's also tawdry.
lindsey graham said earlier over the weekend when he said i've been a lawyer for a long time and i've never seen a lawyer behave this way talking about cohen and the fact that he recorded all of these conversations with clients and now he's saying the reason why he did this is because he like to record things rather than taking notes. i don't buy that, that's not what lawyers do. >> harris: our senior judicial analyst here at fox news said. he has said that it is actually not rare that people would do this because of the phone devices that people might record to help take notes. it makes it easier contemporaneously. you can get an assistant to help you transcribe. they said it wasn't uncommon. >> guy: is an interesting conversation to have about the tape because of the president's voice on one of them. >> harris: wouldn't you tell the president that you were recording him if he were his
confidant? >> guy: you assume trump would be understandably upset to learn that he was surreptitiously recorded by his own attorney and that tape is now leaking to cnn. as a nightmare scenario. i just want to make one point, rudy now has gone on tv twice today on our network and another one saying that collusion is not a crime. was is a change or a pivot from there is no collusion. and i'm sitting here watching rudy and i'm wondering is this rudy being the pundit or is this a new legal strategy? they have insisted and sworn top to bottom there was no collusion, and if the president top lawyer now is out there ceding this messaging on television that collusion wouldn't be a crime, that seems like a bit of a change and on "fox & friends," rudy said president trump was not at that meeting. donald trump was not at that meeting. that was never the allegation. not that he was there, that's an odd denial of something that no one is alleging. >> adrienne: you bring up such a great point because it is
sit down for an interview with a special counsel. here is giuliani earlier. >> are you still having negotiations with his team? >> not yet. >> those are yet not? >> we haven't heard anything, i don't know why. they can write a report without him, they do not need president trump's -- they have two aspects of this. collusion, they have his side of the story. even as russian meeting, i'm happy to tell them he wasn't there. >> harris: all this is new polling from "cbs news" shows many of the president's supporters have his back in the russian investigation was about 70% calling the russian investigation now the witch hunts. and this comes as the president goes on the attack on the special counsel again, it happened yesterday, he tweeted this. there is no collusion. the robert mueller rigged witch hunts headed now by 17 angry democrats was started by a fraudulent dossier paid for by
cricket hillary and the dnc. therefore, the witch hunt is an illegal scam. just real quickly, that number increased from 13 angry democrats including one obama white house attorney to now 17, just clarifying that. is robert mueller ever going to release his conflicts of interest with respect to president trump including the fact that we had a very nasty and contentious business relationship? i turned him down to head the fbi. one day before the appointment as special counsel. in our own chief white house correspondent john roberts says while there are still discussions on going, the president's legal team is now leaning toward not having the president sit down for an interview. i don't know that changes much. the facts are fresh. >> guy: will her wand has been the ongoing saga now for months. i feel like i've been sitting on his couch debating whether he will earn will not. >> harris: the president said it politically. i haven't heard in attorney say it's a great idea to sit down.
>> guy: will go out there and say i'd love to talk to him. every attorney has said do not do that so i would be very surprised of this interview were to happen. there's a lot to unpack there in the president's tweets, i'm confused about what this nasty conflict that he is alleging no now. at a golf club is something that we are hearing about. if the idea was that robert mueller was too biased to preside over this investigation because of golf club fees disputes from years ago, it's odd to bring that up now, the highlight that. >> melissa: we've heard that before but i'm really stuck on what you said before because now i heard really giuliani, it sticks out like a sore thumb. when he said it again, he wasn't at the meeting. so he's now saying that intentionally like that was a mistake, he sang it intentionally to different places, probably means he knew about the meeting other change changing the wording now. >> kennedy: is also talking about the parameters of collusion. that has been the basis of his
negotiation with mueller's team. we will talk about collusion, we will not talk about obstruction. if you remember, the 50 questions that were leaked to the potential he came from federal counsel, it was how did you feel when jeff sessions offered his resignation? how did you feel when you heard that george papadopoulos was drunk and very chatty with london business executives? >> harris: i just love to hear kennedy do this. >> kennedy: it seems like an amateur therapist talking you about your fees and not the president of the united states. >> guy: it was like a paraphrase. >> adrienne: it was not leaked from mueller, exactly. >> kennedy: it also wasn't refuted from mueller's team. >> harris: absolutely fair and true. we talk about his team not having any leaks. >> kennedy: he has come out. >> harris: she can't do the other 47 questions. i just kind of want to get an idea because we saw a lot of twitter activity from the
president, and we've heard from his attorneys, you pointed out twice on a monday already, so what does that tell us about what we know? >> >> melissa: it is very aggressive, mix if you like something is coming. >> harris: that's a rudy giuliani homework, that aggressive legal appetite. speak your thinking maybe this is a result of doing too many interviews too early in the morning or a little bit all over the place but it's consistently different now. >> adrienne: i think we're looking at two things here, number one looking at a president who feels like the laws of back are closing in. >> harris: that's from a democrat perspective. you seem to link this investigation is just going to end. >> adrienne: we will see. >> harris: he is also looking at the president's tweets which i've had legal professionals tell me that that length of the investigation but by all means, go right ahead. >> adrienne: i'm just saying
what i think could be happening, who knows? to the point you just made, mueller's team has not leaked anything and they have been radio silent. so first of all, from a democratic perspective, the president feel like the walls are closing in. secondly, he is also delivering red meat to his base to try to solidify their support has a go into the midterms. >> guy: there is a chance that this is a frantic effort from the president's team. the walls are closing in, they really scared. over this president loves brawling, getting out there defending himself, throwing punches or muddying the waters and getting walking over here and having exactly this conversation. >> adrienne: i don't think that's a smart move. >> harris: like i would've been just a few hours ago but there's no evidence of collusion. rudy giuliani and his comments have now gotten all of us to talk about even if there is, is not a crime which is completely different and that would be a shift if he wasn't just a thing.
the president and congressional republicans or does this simply fire up the base? joe manchin said to be the first democrat senator to sit down with the president supreme court nominee brett kavanaugh. this is this is senate minority leader chuck schumer works to block that nomination. how this could affect vulnerable democrats. ♪
>> harris: breaking news is happening, italy's prime minister arriving at the white house. italy's prime minister giuseppe conte said to be perhaps the closest of allies in europe to support this president, but he is facing an interesting political ground where he is in italy, antiestablishment forces wanting things like closing the door to migrants and questioning the ground rules of italy's relationship with the european union and in favor of closer ties to russia. those two men now meeting inside the white house, will bring you the news on it as it goes. >> melissa: in the meantime, senator joe manchin from west virginia is scheduled to meet with supreme court nominee brett kavanaugh a short time from now, this will make him the first senate democrat to do so. joe manchin is facing a tough
election battle in a state that president won by a huge margin. the meeting comes a senate minority leader chuck schumer is reportedly pushing red state democrats to hold back any support for brett kavanaugh as long as possible. schumer is also calling for the release of cavanaugh's time in the white house where he worked his legal counsel and staff secretary. this morning, senate majority number said he will try to delay the process until that demand is met. watch. >> the question is what they're hiding, what are they concealin concealing. i will meet this with mark nominee and will certainly urge my colleagues to vote against him if we are denied those documents. >> melissa: in the meantime, senate republican is warning against an expedition saying they should request documents only relevant to who to who is potential supreme court service. i want to ask you about this. if so a bunch of these documents have to do with the time when he was staff secretary at the
white house. they say that job is somewhat called it a paper pusher, that's not quite what that is but they're saying that his job was to not about providing advice, that what it was about is making sure all the documents that were coming from different parts of the executive branch that were supposed to get in front of the president got in front of the president and he saw them and then it has nothing to do with his legal thinking. he didn't have any say over how the documents were constructed or what was in them, he was just responsible for getting them to the president. >> guy: they should strike an agreement about a reasonable document request from the bush administration era days but keep in mind, judge kavanaugh has sat on the d.c. circuit now for 12 years. that is the body of work that is most relevant to his nomination to the u.s. supreme court. i think it's interesting to see him as the first democrat to come in this guy has been a nominee for a month, the democrats are finally getting around to actually meet with him and he is in a very tough spot because there was a poll that came out that polled four red states that democrats currently
hold one senate seat in. three of them are up for reelection this year, in west virginia, his state by 25-point margin. the people of that state want to see him confirmed. in north dakota, which is where heidi heitkamp is running for reelection, it is plus 38 in favor of kavanaugh's confirmation and also a big double digit number in alabama and indiana as well. there was going to be immense pressure brought to bear on these red state democrats from the republican party, from their opponents, and meanwhile chuck schumer is over here saying please give us time for a fishing expedition, they have nothing, let's be honest. and if they want to find something to hang their hat on and they're asking these red state democrats to march along with schumer and company to give them that the lang. >> harris: are not just asking them, look at dick durbin, look at some of the other democrats. they are saying will fall on your sword for the cause. what is the cause exactly when you have opportunity, you're looking at a nominee that has
300 opinions that you could read through. let's say you do get all those documents, i don't know if you can read it all by october 1st bill is not protest too much because i don't think anybody read all of that health care legislation. but you look at these things and democrats have an opportunity to get on the record and meet with him and ask all the questions. it's money, it's dirty. in >> adrienne: first of all, i think everything a united states senator regardless of party affiliation said meet with him. but of course, democrats and the public and should be doing the same thing. we want as much information as we can get on him, that includes his emails and documents from his time in the bush administration. when elena kagan was going through her supreme court nomination, the tables were turned and republicans sought as much information on her. >> harris: they met with her, was of the situation where a month and we are waiting for one i'm a >> guy: her position was solicitor general which is popular for the u.s. government
who argues for the supreme cour. the job was specifically related to working the supreme court. >> adrienne: you should certainly make the argument that his time is very applicable. >> harris: i think others are making that argument which is directly why they went to george w. bush to find out if he would release the paperwork that they are looking for. >> melissa: it seems like a ridiculous question with the staff secretary. that stuff has nothing to do with his legal perspective. it was about getting papers together. >> adrienne: that's assistant to the president. speak to them he asked kennedy, is it suicide for these democrats when you hear the numbers back i if they vote against kavanaugh? is it automatic suicide or just one issue for them? >> kennedy: they have to think are they really representing their state? is so frustrating when we have these conversations because they are so far from the focus of what these meetings should be which is the united states constitution. it is the judicial branch, it is
holding the other two branches accountable, and asking some of those major philosophical questions which i have the opportunity to do. stay when we got breaking news right now, and we've been talking about the attorney for the president of the united states, rudy giuliani. and he is now on the telephone with us. mr. giuliani, you're with us? >> how are you? >> harris: i'm doing fantastic and i know you have your hands full with a whole lot and i went to get right to the questions if i can. do you want to first on earth with the statement because we certainly want to talk about what's happening this morning so take it away. >> let's begin and with that someone said today there is no collusion and therefore that collusion also is no crime, i've been saying that very beginning, it's a very familiar lawyer's argument that the alternative, my client didn't do it and even if he did it, it's not a crime.
and i have said that over and over. collusion is not a crime. the only crime is hacking and is ridiculous to think of the president hacked. why do i say that? i say that to attack the legitimacy of the investigation because it has become crystal clear this investigation that began with peter strzok has been continued as an illegitimate investigation and someday, we may have to prove it is. second thing that i wanted to correct, said why would we attack cohen, he can do terrible things. he could not do terrible things. we are fully confident that he has no evidence that would indicate the president. we have listen to three unique conversations which are all the ones that i would like them to be out of the public to hear them, but i can't do that. i can only respond to the ones that they leak out every time we do, we prove our case that the president did nothing wrong and when i said to him with a decent man, i had no reason not to think he was. all of a sudden, i find out the
man is taking his client, he is lying to him and hiding tapes, that he had lied and that i find out from listening to these tapes a lot of other things we don't know yet. but i think i've got a scandal on my hands. and of course, i'm not going to have my client attacked by a scoundrel. >> harris: i want to unpack that a little bit. first of all, let's start off with a collusion because what you said was he wanted to correct yourself and what we had you in two interviews today saying what appeared to be a shift was that you said collusion would not be a crime. but what you're now correcting for the record as i understand, is that you have said all along that there was a, no collusion and then b of their work collusion, it would not be a crime. is that correct? stay back there may be some sentences and that 40 minute interview that i didn't say both at the same time. it's similar. we say the flint conversation never took place with comey but
if it did take place, you can ask a prosecutor to go easy on somebody. >> harris: so we got that one point, he went on to a couple of others but i want to skip ahead to something else which seemed also like a shift today. and that was the tower, the trump tower meeting with the russian officials who were here to meet with donald junior, donald trump jr. and others from the trump campaign. in that meeting at trump tower there, it has been a question because of michael cohen now saying that he was willing to go on the record with russia investigation had robert mueller to save the president knew that meeting was going to take place. what we heard you say today was the president was not at that meeting. that actually takes on a question that has not been asked or even suggested. so why did you say that? >> because there were two different meetings, one of which has big doubt and the other one who has given the three reporters, beating up excellent
take you through it. the day of the meeting with the russians, cohen has said, he liked it so we are not even sure he said it. somebody set up for him the reporter. he said that he was in president trump's office in donald trump walked in, that is categorically untrue. didn't happen, two witnesses demonstrate that. he has talked about this endlessly on those 193 unique recordings and he never mentions it at all. he would have it had anything to do with anything. the reason he is saying it's one of the few things he can lie about where the tapes don't contradict, but the testimony of other people does. second, there was another meeting that has been leaked that hasn't been published yet. that was an alleged meeting three days before according to
be 13 or according to the leak, maybe cohen will withdraw this, i don't know. they haven't pursued it. and two publications are not going to publish it. i think they found independent contradiction. he says it was a meeting with donald, jr., with jared kushner, with paul manafort, possibly to others. in which they out of the presence of the president discussed the meeting with the russian. we checked with their lawyers, the ones we could check with, that meeting never took place, it didn't happen. it's a figment of his imagination or he's lying. the only meeting that they find for that day that included any of these people is a meeting about the hispanic judge that the president had criticized back around that time. so that hopefully set the record straight. >> harris: let me just ask it this way. to you now told us about two
meetings, there was one that the public knows about, which when you talk about a meeting and you say the president wasn't there, that's the one that everybody would assume that we are on the same page about what you're saying now is that there was another meeting that was leaked that has not been made public and i would assume until now, really described by you in detail that have been three days prior that had done, jr., jared kushner, paul manafort, gates, and possibly to others and thus the meeting that michael cohen says the president knew about the head of time, but you say the president was not there. >> but i don't know. all i have are two reports telling me cohen told him there was a meeting three days before with a group of people that i said that they discussed it and that the president was not there. he didn't say the president knew about it. i am telling you the meeting didn't take place, never happened, he had to handle it himself.
second, there's another leak, this one is out, and this one, he says he was in donald trump's office when donald trump jr. walked in and told him about a russian meeting that was about to start. that is also not true. >> melissa: this is melissa francis and i just want to jump in. i don't think any of that really addresses the question of why he would say he wasn't at the meeting? why are you saying that the president wasn't at the meeting? i understand those two meetings that you just set out there, but that doesn't explain why you're saying. who asked if he was there? no when asked if he was there. >> he is alleging the meeting took place and we are making it clear that the president was not at that meeting. cohen doesn't even allege that the cut it off. two alleged meetings, first meeting, a group people, not the
president, that group of people says the meeting didn't take place, who alleged it is cohen and secondly, president's office, in walks donald trump jr., says let me meet with the russian, never took place, didn't happen. >> melissa: neither of them happen, is different to say that meeting didn't happen to say it didn't happen but to say he wasn't there implies that it happened and he wasn't there. >> is alleged by a liar. as alleged by cohen. >> harris: they understand that. i went to get to this, mr. giuliani just so that everybody is on the same page. there was a meeting that witnesses saw. it wasn't really secret, they walked into trump tower, people went into that meeting. what do you say today about that meeting that we know of and don jr. was at that meeting, this is the first one, not the second, what is your latest take on that as you get ready
potentially to decide whether the president will sit down with robert mueller separate from anything? i just want to get you back on the record about that meeting. >> that meeting that did take place, they did in take place anywhere near that. that meeting that we are talking about with the russian woman and the other russian did take place, it's been described already by donald, jr., it's been described by i think jared, i'm not sure. but they came, they were supposedly going to be some bad information about hillary clinton, didn't have any, the meeting was over and it was never followed up. in the president didn't know about that meeting beforehand. >> harris: and that's the one that people really key in on and you've given us some information about things that are not in the bloodstream of america yet and now they are. and as we learn more, we have kai benson who was with us today and he has a couple of follow-ups if you can hang on for just one second.
>> guy: thank you so much for calling in. i just want to make this crystal clear for the audience because there are so many meetings, it's hard for all of us to keep track of. so the questions are very simple, number one, regardless of whether or not collusion would be a crime, is it still the position of you and your client that there was no collusion with the russians whatsoever on behalf of the trump campaign? >> correct. >> guy: second question is, of that meeting that we knew about at trump tower with the russians and high-level people within the trump world, the trump campaign at the time, you were saying again for the record that the presidential nominee, donald trump at the time did not know about the existence of that meeting prior to it occurring. >> i'm glad you asked that a very, very clear, yes. let me make one slight amendment when i say the trump campaign, i mean the upper levels of the trump campaign. they have no reason to believe anybody else did. the only people i checked with of the top four or five people.
>> harris: kennedy is here too, she wants to get in the question but before we go there, want to follow up with something that you said because you said one of the meetings that may not have happened according to michael cohen had donald, jr., jared kushner, paul manafort, these would've been the upper people in the trump campaign that you're talking about in your amendments here. >> correct. >> kennedy: mayor giuliani. >> they have all denied it. >> kennedy: i want to ask you more broad question because we have heard some of the parameters that you have laid out for the president sitting down in an interview with special counsel. what does a special counsel want from you? what are some of the guidelines that they have given you a? what are they requesting from you from the president? >> i can't go into all the details. number one because he want to keep it as privileged, not privileged or confidential as possible. second, the keep changing.
it keeps changing. the central parameters of it are we believe they are not entitled to ask any questions about obstruction because obstruction is could not have happened. under article two of the constitution. the president had a right to fire comey, he's got ten good reasons, he can't go try to construct another good reason another trying to do it by looking at tweets. i've never heard of obstruction by tweets. if they want to talk about collusion, which as i told you, we are very clear on. we might allow some questions about that. we didn't think they were trying to trap them. and that's what we have been negotiating. if there's some area where we can agree, it would be helpful to them and we wouldn't feel like being trapped. >> harris: mr. giuliani come at this point, we do have a democrat cast on our cash today, adrienne elrod, worked very closely with a hillary clinton
camp and one of the things that we have learned via adrian and other democrats is that there is this thought that we might be coming more to a close with the investigation that mueller has. knowing what you know, and we don't know all of what he has, are you now a "yes" or "no" on a sit down between the president and robert mueller? >> two things, no want to sit down until we get ironed out exactly what they want to do. and then the process is, we have five cocounsel, senior people, we will advise the president, he decides. and he's always leaned in favor of doing it. be when what you're telling him about that? what advice are you giving him? >> right now, i'm telling him no way. the five as a politician or as a lawyer? >> as a lawyer. i can be a politician, it's too confusing if you try to be both. and that was a very good question because there's a whole
political when you represent and the president, you're not as representing and there's a whole political aspect of this, however, i do think the political climate has changed a bit and i think people will understand much better now and maybe one of the reasons we reemphasize the point about the legitimacy of the investigation is we want to show that maybe he shouldn't be testifying at an investigation that has been no legitimacy. so i agree with the woman you mentioned, that i have the sense that he is near the end, i don't know that. he hasn't said that. he did say one thing that i can sort of support that with him at two months ago, back before all of this stuff happened, he was aiming at beginning of september at the time to get the report, he never said it, but i thought he was thinking of the november election. >> harris: interesting. to grow quickly, can i just do a
fastball up, you say that you think the political climate has changed in terms of what's "happening now" with the president, how so and why? >> i think going back, rewind, you didn't have the raid on the 13, he didn't have the horwitz report, the beating up on the legitimacy of the hillary clinton investigation and also the beginnings of the counterintelligence investigation against the trump campaign. because he's never been a subject of that. but i'm not sure i know what that means. the way that they define it. and it seems to me that we are at a natural ending point now and i hope it happens because ultimately, remember, he can indict. >> harris: he said he wouldn't. he said he would in any way. >> he did, you're right. that means he writes a report,
he's got plenty to write a report. >> melissa: can i ask you quickly? this is melissa francis again. i just want to clarify, you're talking about a second meeting that you say was going to possibly come out in the media, but it didn't happen, so now it is not going to surface as a meeting and it didn't happen. and that's one one where you d. walked into president trump's office? >> so the public record contains a leak by cohen that he was present at a meeting in which donald junior came in and informed the president, we deny that happen, we say didn't happen and if it had happened, it would've been mention a long time ago on the various outlets of tapes that we have. the second meeting was brought to my attention from jay sekulow, both of us out with it with two different reporters,
essentially the same information about at this meeting that took place three days early with a whole group of people, everyone of those people said it didn't happen and why did i mention it? because first of all, i thought it was going to come out, second, my experiences that when you have something like this floating around, it comes out. i don't want to come out and be unreported when it originally comes out. if it's part of what we are trying to do, the jury for this case of the american public. the congress, yes, the congress is a creature public opinion and how it's being shifted. 22% net for the president. meaning disapproval of his investigation has gone up, some polls have it over 50%, used to be down to 37 or 38, and in the president's division has shifted by about an equal number including his approval rating. so it seems to me there be more
understanding why you might not just run in their and testify. also, all of you put on so many lawyer and say we would be out of our minds of it but the president up for questioning come of it has to affect the public. i tell the president if we make you testify, we are going to get disbarred. >> harris: it's interesting what you say and people may watch this and wonder okay, so they're getting there influence from fox news or other media, but the actual truth of the matter is there a lot of people both sides of whatever political idol that you might drop to say in a legal profession separating out the politics should be crazy to put your client into a situation when you know that he is not economic with his words. and it might get a little dicey and who would do that with your client? so if you have separated the two hats that you wear because you were formally a politician. i want to go back grow quickly just to something that you said.
>> of euros and a doctor coming after be able to represent the doctor. he can't pretend you're not. and also, if you are not the president, the advice would be clear, he would not be testifying as normally as you know, defendants don't testify in grand jury's for the prosecutor. they got to make up their minds without that. >> harris: just going back to something you just said post to melissa's question, why do you feel is necessary to get on the record with things that haven't been asked yet? or that are not public yet? what is coming? >> when i thought it was going to be published, i wanted to get out in front of it. and the reality is that i can't comment on the dates and less for the situation unless we are attacked, we are not allowed to do that so we were being attacked and i would actually my life would be a lot easier if everyone of of those tapes was out there.
if you had all the transcripts. but i can't do it. >> harris: can i get this straight though? the reporting this morning is that there's only one reporting but the president's voice on it yet you talk about it and i wrote it down, 183 tapes or recordings. what is on those that would be so different if they don't contain the president and even if you don't name names and you probably can't, it's a big question. >> it is, but it's easy to answer. there are only 12 recordings of any substance, 11 of them. the others are coming back, see you later, the president of this today, the president did that today. some of them have little substance to them but nothing harmful. but them aside, there are 12 we would think of as conversations, one of them only when i could mention. because it has come out publicl publicly. what is the recording of cohen and the president.
what is the recording of ♪ ♪ and the president. the other ten or with other mostly reporters, i think the others, might be some media executives. >> harris: who was recording these things? >> the scoundrel. >> harris: i just want to get this straight, i want to try to understand. of these recordings and we are assuming that some of them, it's not old-school as kennedy has said, nobody has cassette tapes anymore. so these are really recordings and they are probably on a digital device like our phones i'm assuming, but i think i'm probably pretty right. you have prints promo with the president for two hours. is that correct? >> that is correct. >> melissa: to the president of that was being recorded? >> harris: chris comeau and
cohen? and the state of new york, we put that as legal? >> yes, legal. >> harris: and then another tape with cuomo and the president, how long would you say for that one? >> cohen in the president, was a 3 minutes. >> harris: then he said the other ten or so or what? >> similar conversations to the one between cohen and colombo. different reporters, all being deceived about being taped clearly, you can hear it. in a few cases hot, he goes through a major centrifuge which is he takes his phone and he puts it in a drawer and says i'm not recording this, he must have another phone with which he was recording it. >> harris: 's you can hear him saying after what you called subterfuge, i'm going to stop this one and put in a drawer. a couple of these he makes a big deal about it.
>> harris: is a lot of information. >> the one that would be a real problem for him aside from credibility problems with the others is the one with his client. the one with president trump. >> kennedy: who leaks the tape to cnn? >> the first one was leaked at the time to michael schmidt, they went on the restaurant, record and said it was in us. it is turn them over to us. they didn't get until a day later. >> melissa: does chris palma know about this? >> he knows everything about it, he reported on it. i'm not sure he's ever really -- he was an off the record conversation which is kind of silly now because it's off the record recorded in link to the public. you have to ask him about it. they would grow quickly before we let you go, is there any legal recourse that you take on
an off the record surreptitious recording? i understand how the laws work here in new york, there are exceptions to the laws, what are you looking at? >> the ones without the president have no legal implications and they have ethical implications, just for human relationships. the one with the president is a real problem because he's the president's lawyer. and it's another subject discussed that's clearly attorney-client privilege, the one we are talking about is attorney-client privileged and has to lead to some kind of disbarment proceedings, i'm sur sure. >> harris: that is when it is not public yet, that other subject. >> although somebody is actually mentioned it, it's not worth it. >> harris: rudy giuliani, the personal attorney for the united states president, we appreciate you calling in and thank you very much for taking all of our questions. >> also want to understand the
confusion and is going to get more confusing when his other tape start coming out but eventually, when you put them altogether, it's going to mean the president did nothing wrong. >> harris: got it, you've given us some of that information about things that are in the bloodstream yet and some that are not. appreciate your time. thank you. >> very good, thank you. >> harris: guy benson, your notebook is full. >> guy: first of all, can we talk about how extraordinary it is that he called in to the show live after watching her for segment? >> harris: we can talk about how extraordinary that is because he wanted to get on the record, you and i were talking about the fact that twice already today, he has said if there was collusion, that it wasn't a crime, and he wanted to get in and i were to town, he wanted to correct the record because he said it several times, maybe root was captured and didn't get captured were he actually said there is no evidence of collusion, but if there were it would not be illegal. >> guy: i just wanted to make sure which as i lie at the very blunt question, are you still saying there was absolutely no collusion and yes, the distiller
position. i would be curious if we had five more minutes with him to ask how he would define collusion, but at least that position appears to be unchanged where is this morning, it looked like the goalposts were shifting and also, on the second part of it, the second meeting, he said trump wasn't at the meeting and we are all sitting here thinking why are you saying that, we know he wasn't at the meeting, no one says he was and now we have learned of a second meeting that apparently has been alleged is about to come out but doesn't exist? >> harris: hence why he answered a question that has been asked yet. we're like why is he telling us? >> guy: it still didn't quite make sense. >> melissa: if the meeting didn't happen, why did you say he was an addict? >> guy: would say didn't happen. >> kennedy: was not in studio 54 with abraham lincoln. >> harris: what i thought was critical here and i called you up because i wanted him to know that we had someone here to and
opened up the possibility for you to ask question as well. but i thought this was really important. i said why do you think the political climate has changed for the president such that you would consider doing anything differently in his legal representation? he said that rewind three months, the rate on michael cohen, the ig report from horwitz which seemed to beat up on hillary clinton and her campaign, and it feels like a natural ending. i come to you on that because if you have raised the point that it also sort of seem like a natural ending for the russian investigation by bob mueller. >> adrienne: he is interviewed so many witnesses that would make one conclude that we are coming to an end. i want to talk with her quickly because i know we don't have much time left but these tapes that he is talking about, the additional tapes that are coming forward is something that is another issue. >> harris: he said out of the 183 or so that were on point with the issues at hand legally.
>> guy: the subterfuge part was really interesting. that he would go for a whole show. >> harris: fascinating hour of television here on out numbered, we will be back, stay close. ♪ when i touch you like this
so glad to have you with us. and we have breaking news. the president angry, lashing out, going off on twitter by attack robert mueller, the free press, and even threatening a government shutdown if democrats won't agree to pay for his border wall. the president arrived at the white house just a few minutes ago. it's unclear right now if he'll continue his tirade once he settled in for the night. it's also unclear what exactly has set him off. but it could be a number of things, as we've told you. his former attorney and loyal friend michael cohen appears to be ready to flip on him. sources say cohen is willing to tell mueller that trump knew in advance about that infamous 2016 trump tower meeting, the one with the russians, offering dirt on hillary clinton. and on top of that the president has learned along with everyone else that cohen has been secretly recording their private conversations for who knows how long. we played one of those tapes for you last week. it's the one where trump and cohen discuss whether to pay off an alleged mistress by cash or check. and today trump's attorney rudy
giuliani is claiming that tape has been doctored. >> he abruptly ended that recording as soon as the president said the word "check." we are now -- what we're investigating is why did -- how did that happen? what actually did happen? what was eliminated? and then he's got to raise that question with every one of these tapes. how many of them are -- did he play around with? we have determined the fact that he tampered with the tape in the sense that he abruptly mid-conversation turned it off. we know he didn't do that for a good reason. >> reporter: cnn white house correspondent boris sanchez joins us live from new jersey where the president spent the weekend. boris, let's start with these attacks against mueller. walk us through what the president is alleging here. >> reporter: in a series of tweets the president sent out earlier today we saw not only his freshest attacks on the special counsel but his most direct against robert mueller. the president calling his
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prosecutor paul cowen. these attacks against mueller. we learned within the last few days mueller is actually scrutinizing trump's tweets as part of his obstruction of justice investigation and yet the president here is tweeting all about him. if you were still a white house lawyer, what would you tell the president right now? >> look, i've said time and time again, i think the president is well served talking about all the good things that are happening right now with the economy and the tax cuts and regulatory reform and attacking robert mueller is not the best use of his time. >> does it hurt him? >> i think it just distracts from the good things -- like i said, from the good things that are going on. i don't think it puts him in any more or less legal jeopardy. but it certainly distracts from all the good things that the administration's accomplishing. >> paul, a lot of news has broken over the last few days, and to jim's point there was good economic news on friday. and yet here goes the president, on his twitter tirade, on the attack. what do you think set him off?
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there's questions on both sides as to what was said, what actually released the tape, whether there was a violation of attorney-client privilege as a result of it. all these things are big questions at this point in time. >> but you know, jim, i think what really is amazing about the whole thing is given all of those problems with the tape, and i agree with you that they were there, why did they waive attorney-client privilege and release the tape? they did it because they thought the tape backed up the president. and now giuliani is saying the tape has been tampered with, the tape is fraudulent and cohen's a fraud. so the president is not being well served by this defense, which changes the storyline every other day. >> what do you think about that? >> i'm not sure the -- >> giuliani -- the president's team waived that attorney-client privilege. this was a tape that was supposed to not be available as part of the investigation. >> there's a real question as to whether they went to the special master and asked for that -- that hasn't become public one
way or the other at this point in time, whether informed consent occurred as related to that tape and who release the tape. pts a chicken and egg issue there. nonetheless, the tape is public and now that the tape is public certainly giuliani's going to want to defend the president as it relates to the contents of that tape. no question. >> but jim, we have confirmed that the president's legal team did waive attorney clooint privilege for that tape. as far as that being out in public, that's one thing. but they waived attorney-client privilege and allowed that to be put forward as evidence as part of this investigation into michael cohen. they thought it was going to be -- >> if they did, they did. and if they waived it, then that's -- then the result is the fact that the tape's out there anyway. for everyone to hear. so the result is still the same. i think at the end of the day, though, the bottom line is there's no indication that there was ever a payment made. it's much ado about nothing as it relates to the tape because
no actual payment was made as a result of those conversations. at least that's what we know today. >> i want you guys to listen to rudy giuliani this morning trying to discredit cohen. >> he's destroyed himself, chris, as a witness. i've prosecuted 5,000 cases. i'd never prosecute a case on this guy's testimony. first of all, he talks to the press. he may be taping me. second, he's contradicted so many times that you begin your cross-examination by saying which set of lies are you going to tell us today, michael? let's go through them now. >> paul, does giuliani have a point? >> well, no. i mean, you don't criticize the other side by saying he's talking to the press while you're talking to the press. i mean, seriously. i think that giuliani thought and had vetted cohen. he had met cohen and cohen had represented the president for a long time. you would think when giuliani went out and started praising the honesty of cohen that would have been based on some kind of
reasonable lawyer's investigation. and now a week later he says the guy's a liar. i don't think giuliani's doing much of a job for the president with respect to michael cohen. >> jim, i'll give you the final thought. >> i think he has done a complete 180 on cohen. the fact that cohen's taping -- i've been a lawyer a long time. i've never taped one conversation with any of my clients. that's certainly an oddity at best as it relates to the practice of law. it's lawful to do in new york. no question about that. because all you need is one side to consent to that. but certainly not something that a lawyer typically does in the common practice. >> and it's a violation of the ethical rules for lawyers in new york. he could be disbarred for doing it. it may not be a crime in new york, but it is improper conduct even in new york. >> important last point there. paul cowen, jim schultz. the death toll rises as monster wildfires spread across
get ready for midterm madness. in 100 days voters will deliver their verdict on president trump's first year, two years now, in office. and while the political landscape could shift dramatically in three months, root n right now the wind is at democrats' bank. cnn's chief national correspondent jong king explains 37. >> 100 days now to the midterm elections. new cnn rankings, brand new rankings, give the democrats even more reason to feel bullish about their odds of retaking the big prize. control of the house of representatives. to the campaign trail in a second. first, though, a reminder of the current stayed of play. let's look at the house today. 235 republicans. that's the majority. democrats in the minority with 193. but that's the state of play here in washington. let's take a look at our new rankings out on the campaign
optimistic. more republican seats moving from the red into the competitive side of our map here. another reason the democrats are optimistic heading into the final 100 days their standing today is even better than it was at the beginning of the year. they were optimistic then. look at the republican numbers. 177 solid at the beginning of the year. down to 158 solid now. more seats have moved from dark red, solid republican, this way, toward the democrats. the democratic numbers are up. 182 solid now, up from the beginning of the year. so this map looks good for the democrats now 100 days out, even better than it was in january. a lot can happen between now and then, but heading into this final stretch democrats believe their odds are quite good of retaking the biggest prize this november. control of the house. >> our thanks to john king. joining us now, cnn presidential historian timothy naftali and the washington bureau chief for the "chicago sun-times," lynn sweet. the traditional midterm dynamic, especially in one of these election years-s that there are
some flips going on, right? what do you think is going to happen this year, especially now that the economy is so strong? >> oh, ana, i can just see this clip being run over and over again when i make a prediction that turns out to be totally wrong. here's what i think people should be looking for. right now the president's approval rating is so low that if you compare that to presidents with similar low approval ratings in a midterm period you can expect to see a switch, a large number of seats go away from the president's party to another party. that's if we follow precedent, right? there's something else that's very interesting, however, which makes this different. i'm not saying it changes the outcome. it makes it different. the president is now in part running against his own party. in the sense that today's tweet, where he talks about he wants funding for the wall and he wants funding for tougher immigration laws, he's saying to republicans, if you don't give me what i want i'm going to go
out there and i'm going to campaign, i'm going to campaign for trump people, people who only want what i want, which means the dynamic we're going to see in the fall is that not all republicans are going to get the support of president trump. and to hold on to his -- to hold on to the republican majority in the house he needs every republican to win. >> interesting dynamic when you take a look at how he's made enemies with some in his own party. but regardless of whether republicans want the president to stay quiet or not, he apparently has no plans to do so. he's going speak his mind. here's what he told fox news. >> you know, the famous quote, it's the economy, stupid. well, if it's the economy, then we should do very well. i just don't know any reason why we shouldn't do well. the economy is the strongest ever and i think that's going to have a very positive impact and i am going to work very hard. i'll go six or seven days a week when we're 60 days out, and i will be campaigning for awful these great people that do have
every district. by the time president obama was in his second term, he didn't have a calling card open in every place either. so you have to pick and choose. that's what president trump will discover. and he will be very powerful in the districts where he does need to nudge someone across the line. but those are districts probably that were going to be in his favor anyway. >> the president has been tweeting a whole lot today, as we've been discussing. he's playing shutdown politics. he said i would be willing to shut down the government if the democrats do not give us the votes for border security, which includes the wall, "must get rifd lottery, sxach release et cetera, and finally go to the system of immigration based on merit. we need great people coming into our country." tim, do you think republicans really want to be talking about a shutdown 100 days before the election? >> no. but i think president trump does. and i think president trump is saying this because he believes the turnout will determine the mid-terms and he's going to turn
out his base. and he is hoping that he can beat the odds in 2018 that he beat in 2016. i am sure there are people trying to tell the president this is not the best approach. or maybe they've given up. but he doesn't care. he won in 2016 playing the game the way he wants to play it. he's trying do it again. he thinks by pressing the buttons that his base care about they will come out and vote and it will be enough of them to hold on to a slim majority in the house. >> lynn, i want to turn to the president's attacks against the media. the president met one on one with the head of "the new york times," we've learned, a.j. schulzberger. "new york times" is revealing disturbing details 6 that meeting. the newspaper writing "mr. schulzberger recalls telling mr. trump at one point that newspapers have begun posting arms guards outside their offices because of a rise in threats against journalists. the president," he says, "expressed surprise they did not already have armed guards." at another point mr. trump expressed pride in polarizing the phrase -- popularizing the phrase i should say "fake news" and said other countries had
begun banning it. mr. sulzberger responded that those countries were dictatorships and that they were not banning fake news but rather independent scrutiny of their actions. lynn, what is trump's end game here? i mean, state-run media? >> well, his end game is -- the multiple stories in this is he still has a craving for the approval of the "new york times." and that is evidence, even though that's the newspaper that -- one of the newspapers that's under attack because he gave time to the publisher. i don't know whether or not this very important message that was sent to the president today by the publisher of the "new york times" will have any impact at all. someone who is proud of popularizing the term "fake news" may not care what the publisher of the "new york times" thinks about it. sad to say, but what is
important is that the news organizations keep doing its job, as cnn does, as the "sun-times" does and every one of our colleagues do, because the stories still have to be done and maybe at some point president trump will understand the news and the job of the news in a different context. i don't think so. i think what's important is for us to make sure that the infection that the president is spreading when it comes to journalism and the free press in america is limited. >> tim, are you surprised to hear this from an american president? >> one of the things that keeps us together is a combined joint love of our constitution. when mr. trump, presidential trump, speaks this way, he is not speaking like someone who loves our constitution. at the basis of our constitution is the first amendment. he is president of the united
states. so an american president is saying this. it is unprecedented for an american president to say this publicly. nixon sometimes said it privately. but the fact of the matter is it's up to americans to decide if this is what they want to hear from their president and whether their love of the constitution, which as i said binds us, requires or not an understanding and commitment to the first amendment. i spectacular americans are committed to the first amendment. >> and may i just add, tim and ana, very quickly, for a president to be -- it would be something if the president could be as committed to the first amendment as he is to the second. >> lynn sweet, timothy naftali. we'll leave it there on that poignant moment. thank you. coming up, our special series about the alaska wilderness and the trump administration's controversial plans to drill and mine there. >> in nearby catmine national park my team learned firsthand that this part of alaska is nirvana for bears. >> tech: at safelite autoglass,
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band of brothers determined to defend it from invasion. >> what happens if a bear comes for a drink right now? >> just stop. >> reporter: among them is drew hamilton, a biologist and guide for the world wildlife fund who makes a living getting cozy with grizzlies. >> it takes a couple days out here to really ease into it and realize the bears are just part of the landscape and they're going about their business and as long as you don't mess with them they're going to leave you alone. >> reporter: in nearby catmai national park my team learned firsthand that this part of alaska is nirvana for bears. and wolves. whales and eagles. a wonderland all made possible by salmon. tens of millions surge into southern alaska each summer to spawn, feeding every form of life, including a multibillion-dollar fishing and tourism industry dependent on the health of this landscape. >> we've had bear tracks.
we've had wolf tracks, fox tracks. >> reporter: which is why drew worries less about wild animals and more about the human beings coming towards us on the beach. >> what are you guys up to? >> we work for a surveying company up in anchorage. >> reporter: they are hesitant to admit they're doing work for the pebble mine, one of the most controversial projects in alaska history. >> this red spot right here. this is it. this is where it all started. >> this is where it all started. >> reporter: about 80 miles from the beach a canadian mining company called northern dynasty discovered enough buried treasure to propose the biggest cold and copper mine in the world. but when the epa under barack obama determined that blasting it open and opening it up would threaten the fishery stock in northern dynasty tanked, the partners bailed, the company sued. but then -- >> congratulations, mr. president. >> reporter: a reversal of fortune. in one of his very first acts running trump's epa scott pruitt
met with pebble and then settled the lawsuits. when cnn revealed that meeting, there was an outcry in alaska. most fishermen, tribes, even governor bill walker are opposed to the mine and senator lisa murkowski said she would never trade salmon for gold. but northern dynasty refuses to give up. the latest plan includes a 100-mile natural gas pipeline to power the mine that would run past that active volcano into a massive port system here on this beach. imagine ships and semi trucks instead of bears and foxes. and then a 35-mile road through some of the most pristine wilderness in the state. since scott pruitt resigned amid scandal the new man in charge of the epa is andrew wheeler, aformer lobbyist at one of pebble mine's law firms. he declined our request for an interview. >> this is in roosevelt room. and that's gore and clinton. >> reporter: but the ceo of pebble was happy to talk.
>> nobody can guarantee there won't be an accident. right? but we've done a hell of a lot to minimize the possibility of there being an accident on this site. >> reporter: pebble mine would sit in a wetland prone to earthquakes. so the biggest worry is a talgz dam failure like this one in british columbia which sent a lake full of acidic waste downstream. but collier says the mine site is so far from bristol bay that is a risk he can live with. >> if there is an accident, it will kill fish for about 20 miles down the north fork 69 coktuli. and that's it. and for ten years it will come back naturally. >> reporter: utah's bingham yoon is the biggest mine in the world. pebble has enough wealth to dig one three times bigger. but after all the resistance those plans have been cut in half. >> and there are some theories that you shrink the footprint of the mine in order to get the permit and then once you spend
billions to build the port and the pipeline and the roads and all of that you say, well, we need to expand. >> there's a lot of gold and copper and silver and mel ibdium in the ground out there. and we do not have any current plans to expand what we're talking about with this permit. but it wouldn't surprise me if somebody, us or someone else, doesn't do that at some point in the future. >> they're basically talking about putting a 175-mile gash across this pristine habitat. >> reporter: plans and promises aside, drew sees this first piece of survey equipment as the beginning of the end of this wilderness as we know it. >> what do you say to the argument that this means jobs, this means an infusion into the alaskan economy? >> i say there are already jobs here. you look at the town of homer in the bear viewing industry, there are millions of dollars being made here already in its current wilderness state. you look at the other side of the mountain. there are tens of millions of dollars already being generated
in a fashion that can be sustained for decades and decades and decades. why can't we just keep that going? >> reporter: so he and his fellow bear lovers will try to stop the invasion through persuasion. but the clock is ticking. as army engineers rush to review their plans, pebble hopes to get their permit and a wave of new investors by the fall of 2020. right before donald trump's next election. bill weir, cnn, alaska. we are continuing to closely monitor the fire situation in california tonight. this is a fast-moving, often erratic wildfire, claiming at least six lives. another seven are reported missing. at this point the biggest of the california fires is the carr fire near redding. it's only 5% contained. that's after cries have been battling it for a week. cnn's dan simon filed this report from redding, california. >> reporter: for the first time we're beginning to hear fire officials express optimism about the overall effort. they indicated the containment
level is going to go up. that means the resources they've put into this fire now seem to be working. you have about 3500 firefighters on the front lines. obviously a lot of aircraft dumping water on the hot spots. in the meantime, we are in the lake redding estates subdivision, and you can see this is one of the homes that has been destroyed. you can see this is a two-car garage. you see the two vehicles right here. and underscore the random nature of it all. you can see right next door you see this house that is perfectly intact. you have 38,000 people that rundowner an evacuation order. you have these people who are very restless. obviously, they want to try to get back into their homes. and people who of course have homes to get back into. you can't get a hotel in the area. it's just impossible. some of the evacuation shelters have also reached maximum capacity but now that this containment number seems to be going up we should get an indication of what this number will be later tonight. but now that it's going up hopefully it means that fire
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last week russia also showing off new missile technology, including a hypersonic missile the kremlin says can beat american defense systems. all this right after both president trump and vladimir putin discussed working together to prevent a new arms race at the recent summit in helsinki. a point putin reiterated this past week. >> translator: russia and the united states have a stake in that. the whoeld world has a stake in that. and not starting an arms race. >> reporter: but while russia may be interested in preventing an arms race russia also clea y ly wants to show america and its allies that its forces are stronger and more advanced than at any time since the cold war. fred pleitgen, cnn, st. petersburg, russia. coming up, the idecade explosion. from the launch of the ipod to the rise of facebook. we look back at the tech ideas that revolutionized the 21st century. a preview of tonight's brand new episode of the 2000s is next. my car smells good. it's these new fresh-fx car air fresheners from armor all.
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phones while they're driving. >> there is a price you pay with respect to that accessibility and that is it's always there, it's always available. you never really unplug. ? with all these new technologies we've become a society of instant gratification. >> i want to download this movie now. i want this song now. i want to read the news now. >> instant gratification has changed our social etiquette too. we now unfriend people. we follow people. we write on their wall. in the '90s that was considered graffi graffiti. >> let's bring in "new york times" technology writer farhan manju. thank you for being with us. you also write this book "true enough: learning to live in a post-fact society." let's dive into the decade. you have this technology explosion, the rise of apple, ipads, i phones, ipads. google, amazon, on and on and on. what force were at play during this decade that allowed for this huge tech boom to happen? sxwlae, i ma sxwla >> yeah, i mean, it was a decade
that start with the tech industry kind of in the dumps because of the dotcom boom and it ended with technology becoming most dominant cultural and social force in the world, the thing that is still with us and kind of changing everything about our lives even to this day. and it happened because of those inventions you mentioned. the iphone particularly, it gave us this future where we were always accessible, where we always had the internet with us. and social networking. that was the thing that made the internet -- turned it from a utility into basically just fun. everyone is on it because everyone else is on it and it's kiechbtd ma kind of the main public square now. >> i also think remember of the days of encyclopedias? now we have information at our fingertips, it's so accessible. but it wasn't just the gadgets that came to really define this tech explosions and the websites and the companies that made them. let's talk about the visionries that brought them to life, people like bill gates, steve
jobs, steve bezos. how important were these individuals to this era of technological advancement? >> you can kind of see it in the stock market today. the biggest companies in the world today are the ones that were created by those visiona visionaries in the late '90s or the ones that came back, thanks to those visionaries in the case of apple. you know, steve jobs really in his second stint at apple during the 2000s he really changed the entire face of the tech industry. he gave us the ipod, changed the way that we understood and we got entertainment, and then with the iphone kind of changed the entire tech industry and became kind of the dominant platform for development for -- until now. jeff bezos, you know, created this store that then changed a lot of else in our lives. made everything more convenient and gave us cloud storage, kind
of everything we access online is based on -- is running from amazon servers. and you know, you also had sort of upstarts. mark zuckerberg created facebook in the 2000s in his harvard dorm room. >> farhan manjoo, thank you so much for the discussion. and be sure to tune in. "the 2000s: the idecade" airs tonight at 9:00 p.m. eastern right here on cnn. coming up, caught on tape. airirrefutable evidence of a thirsty president. >> they don't have any -- >> get me a coke, please. >> they don't have a legitimate purpose. stadium announcer: all military members stand and be recognized. no matter where or when you served, t-mobile stands ready to serve you. that's why we're providing half off family lines to all military. i knew at that exact moment ... i'm beating this. my main focus was to find a team of doctors. it's not just picking a surgeon, it's picking the care team and feeling secure in where you are.
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the price of a can of coke is on the rise. fallout from trump's tariff on aluminum. that probably won't stop the president from slugging down a dozen a day. here's jeanne moos. >> reporter: talk about grasping at straws. have you heard the juiciest part of the trump-cohen tape? >> they don't have any -- >> get me a coke, please. >> they don't have a legitimate purpose. >> reporter: incontrovertible evidence of a thirsty president. >> get me a coke, please. >> reporter: living up to his reputation for daily consumption of -- >> 12 diet cokes, right? >> that's 144 ounces of president fuel. >> reporter: you'd be surprised how many commenters tweeted my favorite part is when he yells "get me a coke, please." others ranked it up there with "mom, more meatloaf" from wedding crashers. >> hey, marx go get some meatloaf. >> there were some comparisons to jfk, my fellow americans -- >> ask not what your country can do for you. ask --
>> get me a coke, please. >> but there was one thing that got the most comments, that even critics found pleasing. >> wow. he said please. he said please? must be a fake. trump says please to the help. that's my president. he hasn't always been complimentary about his favorite beverage, tweeting "i have never seen a thin person drinking diet coke" and "i'll still keep drinking that garbage." jimmy fallon once chronicled the president's behavior as he downed his daily dozen. >> the american dream is dead. >> bing, bing, bong, and dat. >> hello and god bless the united states. >> reporter: now he has a red button on his oval office desk to push when he wants a coke. but when he was a candidate he actually had to speak. >> get me a coke, please. >> reporter: as one commenter noted, things including hush money go better with coke. ♪ things go better with
people. >> "inside politics," the biggest stories sourced by the best reporters now. welcome to "inside politics." i'm john king. to our viewers around the united states and the world, thank you for sharing your sunday. president trump's inner circle under scrutiny by the feds. the long-time aide who knows the most about the money and the long-time fixer no longer willing to take a bullet for the boss. >> this man has come to a moment in his life and i won't talk about what he did in the past for donald trump other than being a loyal defender as an attorney, but i will tell you my own personal view. this man has turned a corner in his life, has hit a reset button and he's now dedicated to telling the truth. >> plus new evidence the american economy is booming, low unemployment, high growth. is the timing just right or will the president's trade war stall
the boone times? >> this is the time to straighten out the worst trade deals ever made by any country on earth ever in history. these deals were made by people -- i don't know if they didn't understand or they didn't care or if they didn't, frarningly, love our krunt. we have the worst trade deals ever made in history but now they're becoming good again. >> and 100 days to the midterm elections, brand new cnn rankings give democrats a clear path to seize control of the house. the president's numbers are better of late, but still historically bad. yet, listen here, he continues to defy history. >> give me the top 25 congress people that can go either way, and i want to go out and campaign for those people. likewise for the senate. the famous quote, it's the
cnn this past week obtained a once secret recording of then candidate trump talking to cohen about buying mcdougal's silence. >> so i'm all over that. i spoke to allen about it. when it comes time to the financing which will be -- >> what financing? >> we'll have to pay. >> with cash? >> no, no. >> check? >> note the "i spoke to allen," connected back to mr. weisselberg. cnn has told cohen asserts mr. trump knew advance about the june 2016 trump tower meeting organized by don junior with russians who promised dirt on hillary clinton. the president says he did not know in advance. in fact, the president and those who speak for him denied it some 20 times back last july when word of the meeting broke. cohen says others can back him up. the president's lawyer who just a few weeks ago called cohen a
straight shooter and an honorable man now says pay no attention to the man who for years lived behind the trump tower curtain. >> i expected something like this from cohen. he's been lying all week or two -- he's been lying for years. we all make mistakes about people who have been disloyal to us. benedict arnold was disloyal. you can go back to ancient classical literature and find people who you think you trust and they turn out to be scoundrels. >> i don't think i want to go back to brutus and cesar, but we have a dilemma here for bob mueller to resolve for the southern district of new york to resolve in that so many of the key actors in these key questions are people with damag damaged, to be polite, the president of the united states, rudy giuliani, michael cohen. what do we make of this? >> i think rudy giuliani, his dramatic take on this whole
situation kind of tells you everything you need to know about how dire it is for the president. but it really does make you wonder, if michael cohen was such a scoundrel and such a liar, why did the president employ him for so many years? i think that's real lild where this all comes down to. the key word for me from giuliani is disloyal. this is about the lack of loyalty to the president. but the question for someone, not for me, maybe a juror, maybe robert mueller, maybe the southern district of new york is why is michael cohen perceived as being disloyal? is it because he's telling the truth or not telling the truth? we don't really know. >> on these financial transactions and mr. weisselberg, who we don't hear from, smartly on his behalf, i think is in many ways the more consequential witness in that he knows about the internal financing and doesn't have the public credibility of the others. we know about the imt pas for one issue. we have this tape that michael cohen decided to release of the
president. here is rudy giuliani who says we have taken this to forensic experts and we think michael cohen doctored it. >> he abruptly ended thatrd roing as soon as the president said the word check. what we're investigating is how did that happen? what actually did happen? what was eliminated? and then he's got to raise that question with every one of these tapes. we have determined the fact that he tampered with the tape in the sense that he abruptly mid conversation turned it off. now, we know he didn't do that for a good reason. >> again, the feds have talented people who know how to do this, know how to do the forensics and ability lies the tapes that. will be event, if we get there, in a court of law. in the court of public opinion, smear the guys who was for years the president fixer, is the strategy. now what? >> i think one of the important things that has happened this week is that there has always been this question about what is the importance of the southern
district of new york case against michael cohen and the trump organization? how does that connect back to the mueller investigation and how does it connect back, if at all, to the president. there are a lot of people who says it doesn't really. the things that the new york investigators were looking at didn't have anything obvious to do with the president and the russia probe. here is where we get the answer to that question which is that pressure makes things happen, and the pressure on michael cohen has made -- has produced its first small piece of evidence linking the meeting at trump tower. and i think the question will be, as that pressure intensifies on michael cohen, on w weisselberg, other people in that investigation, does it produce more linkages back to the mueller investigation and back to president trump? ultimately that's the big
question politically and in washington as opposed to just about mr. cohen. >> is it rm to connect the dots and say that's one of the reasons? the president has criticized the investigations from day one. is it fair to say that's one of the reasons he upped his ante when it comes to don't believe anything? >> it's hard to see the point of all this hysteria. what exactly would the crime here be? it's not illegal to talk to foreigners. nobody is claiming any information changed hands. even if it did, so what? >> if he's proven to have not told the whole truth about the fact that campaigns look for dirt and if someone offers it, you listen to them, nobody is going to be surprised. there are some things in politics that you just take for granted. >> that was not the president, obviously, but let's talk about that. the president's supporters often say there's trump derangement syndrome, they call it, among his critics and the media. that's an example of trump can do no wrong among his supporters. months ago, if it was the
benghazi investigation, darrell issa didn't say, well, she's a politician, susan rice, she's great. it's okay the president may have lied about the meeting with russians or knowing about the meeting with russians. >> right. the impression over the last 14, 16 months of the defense has been fascinating. you can put from january of 2017 till now -- i'm pointing to a screen that nobody can seen. but just fyi, it's right there. it's illuminating and interesting and it also underscores a really key component of all this, that there will never be a groundswell of opposition that goes beyond the kind of 50% to 60% of the country that seems to be very uncomfortable with this. he will always have his defenders. everyone chuckles or laughs and that might be possible. the other side lies about people going after the president. it's actually really important.
you can joke about how it's been split up. this is a different scenario that past crises. you can look back and people talked about this perhaps during the nixon administration. what would have happened if nixon always had defenders. there was a 40% of the country that always defended him and didn't think he did anything wrong. they didn't have the megaphone that the president has now, to continue to defend him, to continue to make the case that whatever comes out is wrong, is whatever one else would have done. it matters because as we talked about repeatedly, this fight right now is a fight for public opinion, a fight over the airwaves. we have no idea what the mueller investigation is actually looking at right now. we don't know where sd andy is in terms of their case. as long as these camps sit in their places and have no desire to move one way or another, that's important. that will help dictate the direction. >> agree with you 1000%.
i lived through the bill clinton team smearing prosecutors. this is that times ten i think. at the core of it, forget the issue, forget your partisanship. they're saying it's okay if the president lied. it's not okay if the president lies about anything. >> the thing about all of this, and this goes along with his assessment of cohen at this point, too, is his assessments of people are transactional, it's based on whether that perp is being loyal to him at that moment. now cohen is off and he's mad at him. that's what that is. the one thing i do agree with rudy on, this is like an ancient drama with the pagt those and the heel turn and you don't know who to trust. i think it's a problem for trump that cohen was recording anything because we don't know what else he might have. that being said, you can't make those charges criminal, it's going to be splashy and media, but we have seen that not make a difference for him electorally because you have this issue where people stick with him. i do think that's the issue for
him. >> i should note the president had gone a long span from late friday night until this morning not tweeting. he's up this morning retweeting michael cohen in 2017 when don junior say iing that. michael cohen has a different place now. we'll see how that goes. up next, 4% growth, add that to 4% unemployment. the president has a plan to rev it up even more. a trade war his critics warn will smother that boom. ♪ come fly with me, let's fly, let's fly away. ♪ ♪ come fly with me, let's fly, let's fly away. ♪
response to our tax reform, to the deregulation that we and the president have pursued jointly has been phenomenally success fl. i'm afraid it could really be jeopardized by this downward spiral on trade. >> is there any indication the president is ready to step back? he did hit day tant button, the pause button with europe. canada, mexico, china? any indication the president is going to say i'm not going to risk this good thing? his argument is it is strong enough, we can ride this out. there will be turbulence but we'll be okay in the end. >> i think he very much still thinks that's the case. interestingly the détente button was a little break with the eu. they gave him a little bit of an out by saying we're not going to go further than we've already gone. with nafta and china, things are not going well. china has basically backed away from talks. nafta is stalled and the president isn't actually making
progress. if what he wants to do is up the risk for everyone so everyone decides to lower tariffs, that's actually not what's happening, even with the eu. i don't think he's getting exactly what he wants, but he's not backing down. i think his aides at this point have stopped really countering him strongly on this. you hear larry kudlow saying we just have to wait to see what works. if the president is right, this could turn out great. if he's wrong, who knows what's going to happen? i think his aides have resigned to where we are. >> this is any president's dream. there are a lot of people watching who didn't vote for the president. you can say this started under obama. that's fine. look at the headlines around the country. the president could just breed that in and he did take credit this week. you could take the victory lap and not do anything to mess with that, or you can try to do what -- this is the issue on which he's been most consistent. >> look, there is a playbook for
taking an amazingly good economy and turning that into an electoral success with an election in a few months. the question is will he follow it? the message discipline that he and the republican party have to have to counter and blunt the democratic wave that could be coming, you need to stay focused on that topic. and the trade war is one of those things that could challenge that discipline, but there are a million other things as we've seen that this president could end up diverting himself and the republican party from that disciplined message. that won't help them at the ballot box. >> you have conservative free market pop tigss like ben sasse of nebraska saying what are you doing? you try to solve with bailouts, another bad thing. not heading in a good direction. you're trying to make it 1929
again. we want more markets, we want more trade. that's ben sasse, conservative senator from nebraska. what's remarkable is listening to the farmers, this is from npr, most of the farmers don't like this, they're worried about it. a lot of them voted for the president and they're saying, okay, mr. president, we'll give you some time. we can't give you two or three years. if this stretches out too long, we'll be under water. >> i think there's still overwhelming support for the president because of his intent. what we're afraid of is slipping into a long-term situation here. we'd still like to see, in my personal opinion, i think most farmers i've talked to at least here in wisconsin, we want trade, not aid. >> we don't give common sense, hard working americans enough credit in the sense that, okay, you're the president, but -- >> there is patience for him doing things differently because that's why people voted for him. this scenario where you bail out farmers because you're hurting farmers is a little healittleal
hand. the top line numbers are so good it's almost impossible to rain on that parade except for an executive-driven trade war. that's what he's purposing. when you see the eu détente, they would argue we or moving toward freer trade. if you read the agreement they came to, very vague. it leaves out auto stuff and almost as an afterthought puts in the fact that maybe we'll get rid of the retaliatory tariffs as well. you're getting taxed on both ends. regardless of whether it hits in the long term, it makes long-term planning for businesses really tough. >> that's the key thing. the businesses saying how do we plan three, four, five years down the line? the president thinks this is why a lot of republicans think he doesn't understand he's the leader of the punl. he thinks in a couple years we'll be out of the tunnel and he'll be okay.
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democrats at 193 today. that's the state of play in washington. look at the new rankings releasing this hour on the campaign trail. republicans from 235 down to 158 solid seats for the gop. 29 likelies, 18 leans. you see the toss-ups, that's the yellow in the middle. for the democrats, 182 solid, nine likely and 12 leaning democratic seats. can the democrats give to the majority? let me give you a dream scenario. if the democrats keep all the likelies, win on the liens and sweep these toss-ups, look at the numbers. that would give them 230 seals, more than enough to be in the majority. that's a dream scenario. elections never play out as you with. it shows the math is within their reach. why are that so optimistic. 27s to-up races. 25 of the 27 of these seats are currently held by republicans, 25 of the 27 toss-ups are currently republican seats.
that's why the democrats are so optimistic. only two of those yellow seats are blue, democratic seats. democrats optimistic. even more so at the 100-day mark. another reason they're so optimistic is the then and now. let's go back to the beginning of the year. republicans are still in danger, but numbers were better. 177 seats back in january, only 158 now. more races have moved from the dark red into the lighter yesterday, the pink, the yellow and the blue. democrats, 177 solid seats, 182 now. the climate for the democrats even better at the 100-day mark than at the beginning of the year which is why current leader nancy pelosi sounds optimistic. >> at every turn republicans are
selling out and putting their special interests and donors first. >> look at where we were in january, where we are now, 12 races since we last did this a couple months ago. 12 more races moving toward the democrats which is the great tug of war in american politics. we talked about the booming economy, something the president and his party should be able to sell to the american people, but then you have the a first, the traditional midterm' namics, the president eefs party almost always loses in the midterm and dynamic two, in much of the country where you have the toss-up races, the soft republican seats, the president is toxic. >> a couple things. one, i think that's reflective of what i was hearing from house republicans before they left. the poll has been bouncing around where they felt good, thought they were getting into a better place, seriously focused on the economy. that has shifted as they were leaving town. people are now feeling not great about what they're coming home
to. i'll say this. one of the most interesting things i think everyone is keeping an eye on, ohio 12, columbus special election going on now. one of the monster super pacts in the game, put out an advertisement focused entirely on illegal immigration and nancy pell soes si. this is the suburbs of columbus, the type of people that the' con message should play for. this is where trump won in 2016. it focusing on illegal immigration, trying to hit the rural area numbers in lincoln county. while i don't know what numbers they're looking at, that doesn't seem to be a great thing for me and underscores what we're seeing right now with the math. >> i want to highlight one particular race, the virginia seven which is dave bratt's district, the old eric cantor
seat. >> bellwether when bratt won it. >> tea party, wave seats, covering virginia for a long time, that's been a republican seat. that was not something the republican party thought they had to worry about. the rankings here have moved that into the toss-up category. if that's a toss-up seat for republicans they have to worry about, that's the canary in the coal mine that they have problems they need to address. >> let's look deeper at the numbers, 2018 numbers, crept numbers, compare them to how the president did in 2016. if you see right now, the generic house ballot, democrats are up 25 points among women. they won women in 2016, but only by 13. white without a college degree, plus 11 for republicans, but it was plus 37 for president trump. independents, plus 17 for democrats right now, president trump carried independents by four, plus four. midterms are always different. it's not aptal year. if you're republicans looking at the fundamentals, especially
women, independents, you're worried. >> yes. i think it's true he can exist for a while on base support, but what trump is doing to a large extent in some of these suburban areas is taking white college educated women who were occasionally, if not reliably gop voters and turning them into at least swing voters, if not democratic voters. we don't know how they'll behave in a midterm election, if they'll sit at home. if they don't come out and they used to come out, that's a problem for the gop. the other issue for trump is we haven't seen his power transfer to other candidates unless they are very aligned with the trump style, and being very aligned with the trump style is not helpful in a toss-up district where you need to be more subtle. >> listen to the president talking on the radio with sean hannity. a lot of republicans want the president to be quiet or talk just about the economy, don't tweet about things, don't attack the special counsel. don't travel all that much, just go to the deep red places.
but the president says i'm ready to help. >> the famous quote, it's the economy stupid, well, if it's the economy, then we should do very well. i don't know any reason why we shouldn't do well. the economy is the strongest ever, and i think that will have a very positive impact. i'm going to work very hard. i'll go six or seven days a week when we're 60 days out, and i will be campaigning for all of these great people that do have a difficult race, and we think we're going to bring them over the lien. >> can he do it and where can he do it? as we have the conversation, i want to show this -- michael mentioned this in the last discussion about the economy. 95 competitive house races we have in the country right now, 28 of them in the midwest, a lot of them are farm states affected by the trade conversation, 27 held by republicans. can the president at this moment -- we know there are some places he can help, he can help in north dakota, west virginia, indiana and the big senate
races. in the house races, he could drive across the bridge to see barbara comstock. she would hide. >> no thank you. the president saying he can't think of a reason why republicans won't do well. well, republicans can think of so many reasons and most of them are on his twitter feed every single morning. the president i think doesn't quite understand that the midterm dynamics are going to be different from what he was experiencing when he ran and won very narrowly in 2016. he also often forgets that he did win very narrowly, that this was not a total -- it might have been a blowout on the electoral college side, but it was not a vote blowout. i think republicans are very mindful of that because this is a razor's edge kind of situation. president trump wants to throw his weight around in some of these swing states and republicans are believing he needs to be more strategic. that being said, i think they've been fairly happy with the kind of discipline that he's had recently with endorsing the
right people, endorsing the people that they want him to endorse, doing it at the right times, not going totally rogue, going where he's asked to go. he's basically following directions. as long as that continues, i think they'll be okay. >> going to be a remarkable final 100 days of this campaign, all the money being spent, who goes where, both parties in internal tug of wars. presidents trump and putin say they want a second summit, maybe a third. ah, yes, what a difference two years makes. >> russia, if you're listening, i hope you're able to find the 30,000 e-mails that are missing. >> teacher: let's turn in your science papers. >> tech vo: this teacher always puts her students first. >> student: i did mine on volcanoes. >> teacher: you did?! oh, i can't wait to read it. >> tech vo: so when she had auto glass damage... she chose safelite. with safelite, she could see exactly when we'd be there.
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he has such an invitation. i've told him that, and i'm ready to go to washington. i repeat once again, if the right conditions for work are created. >> that same afternoon, friday, at the 18-month mark of his presidency, mr. trump convened his first national security council meeting on election security, but there were no new directives out of the white house and the meeting lasted well under an hour. are we getting tougher on russia, softer on russia? are we going to meet, not meet? a tad confusing. >> as far as the meeting is concerned, it seems clear that putin was brushing the white house back. they said we'll invite putin to washington. that was also a little bit of a game here where the white house felt like the russians after the helsinki meeting were running the show, releasing all this information, that they didn't want it to seem as if they were being dictated by the kremlin. then putin said, well, actually maybe we can meet at g20. we don't need to have another
summit yet. that's another reason the white house ended up pulling that invitation back because it wasn't likely to be accepted. i think putin feels, probably rightly so, there's not a whole lot of good that can come out of another summit, a washington meeting or even a moscow meeting when the political environment in washington is so toxic, and the white house is just trying to manage that. the president really wants to meet. he thinks summits are the way to go. putin doesn't. he understands there's not a whole lot concrete they can actually make work in that environment. >> the administration, secretary pompeo on the hill saying we're tough, we're tough, we're tough. watch the policy, not the president's words. the president finally has this national security council meeting on election security. states are complaining they're not getting enough help, not a coordinated help. david sanger, our contributor has a fascinating piece saying essentially the russians have moved on, yes, they still meddle in elections but now going after bigger fish.
russian hackers feel far more interested in interested this year in demonstrating they can disrupt the american trick cal utility grid. >> the confidence is not super high. i do think that on the policy, they have been far better than his words. there's always going to be this die very generals. the president, of course, when you're president of the united states and the leader of the free world, your words matter. your policy can do a lot. your words also shift the game. putin felt that when they met. so if they continue to meet, trump's words will sort of change the game even if the policy is very solid which it has been in many cases. i am gratified they at least had this meeting about specifically russia and election meddling. that's been the place. >> you have the ranking democrat
asking the secretary of state what did the president discuss with vladimir putin in private. didn't get much. >> did the president discuss relaxing u.s. sanctions on russia? >> senator, the u.s. policy with respect to sanctions remains completely unchanged. >> i asked a very specific question. did the president tell you he discussed relaxing russian sanctions or not. >> presidents are entitled to private meetings. i'm telling you what u.s. policy was. >> i really don't believe you know what happened during the president's two-plus hour conversation with president putin. i don't know much more about the summit after sitting here for three hours than i did before. >> fair questions, no answers. >> that hearing was probably one of the most fascinating things that happened in the week. what was most interesting, one was secretary's pompeo's poster which was very aggressive. the second was, he had a list of things they have done to counter
russia. you add what congress has done, the money in place, the sanctions, all these things put together -- >> pompeo said watch the policy, don't listen to the president. our reporters share their notebooks next, we'll discuss a pre election, here we go again, government shutdown.
into place. trump, of course, would love for iran to come back to the table, negotiate a new deal he thinks is better than the old iran deal. administration officials are watching carefully especially before the next deadline in november. that's when the oil-related sanctions go back in place. we know president trump is concerned about rising oil prices on the horizon. i think administration officials are skeptical that iran will do all the various things they'll need to do to get back to the tab table. part of the paradigm to get get, to put the pressure on them, to get them back to the table. >> the next test for the blustery style and see what you get out of it. michael? >> the next phase in the fight over the confirmation of brett kavanaugh to the supreme court is going to kick up a little bit this coming week. that's the fight over documents. the democrats have demanded that
the democrats release documents from brett kavanaugh's time in the white house as well as his time as staff secretary which is the place where a lot of papers that go to and from the president flow through the staff secretary. watch for another less noticed fight over documents, that's the trove of documents that the national archive has of the time brett kavanaugh spent working on the investigation with ken starr. there are thousands of documents. the national archive says it could take five years or more to release the documents. democrats on capitol hill will want those documents sooner. we'll see what happens. >> i remember those days too well i might say. bill? >> another wild "newsweek," an evergreen statement.
we went through a number of topics. >> the fact that according to both republican leaders and democrats, it's a hold on, success story, at this point in time. they're moving through a regular appropriations process. by the end of next week, the senate will have passed several appropriations bill. the house has approved all their bills. they're moving forward. one of the primary reasons ryan and mcconnell were meeting with the president was to a, lay out the fact that this is working well on a bipartisan manner and b, stress at this point in time, at the end of september, don't shut down the government. one of the pitches mcconnell made is you don't want to step on the kavanaugh nomination. don't have this fight now. if you want to have the fight, have the fight later. i'm told based on people briefed on the meeting, the president is amenable to the situation, agreed to be patient on things like wall funding and agreed dehid on the want to step on the kavanaugh nomination.
everything can change based on a tweet. >> i'll go with the view of the kavanaugh fight from the states. there's been a $1.5 million ad buy by judicial crisis network targeting west virginia, north dakota, indiana and alabama. obviously that will play into this and the midterm is coming up and what that vote looks like for red state democrats. there are poll numbers from those states in alabama, indiana, north dakota and west virginia, double digits in favor of confirming which is going to make things more automatic barred for red state democrats.
you might. >> let me follow up on that. this is a new phase that adds to the enormous pressure on the top democrat. the first meeting with the democrat is tomorrow. that's west virginia's joe manchin. indiana democrat donnelly. heidi heitcamp making progress scheduling her meeting. they are the three democrats, the only three who backed neil gorsuch, the top white house targets now. the democratic base is telling schumer hold the line. mansion, donnell y and heitcamp also among the farm state lawmakers not happy with the president's trade tariffs. on the surface, it has nothing to do with brett kavanaugh unless your research shows voters understand some fights with the president, but not too
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in on them. listen. >> i left and went to town. my wife called me, she said, we can see the fire way over there. you need to come and get me. i said i'm on my way. so i just throwed down everything, took off over there. i got on quartz hill and there's two or three or four lanes of traffic coming up, wouldn't let me down in in. so i just dropped everything and i took off running down there and i helped some guy that got burnt and was trying to get out of there. i got him and helped him out of there. and when i got back down there, the fire was just intense. but i still tried to get down in there and they come and stopped me, wouldn't let me down in there. i got my car and took off and passed everybody in the dirt and went all the way around to the other end of quartz hill and come up keswick, and my son was in there. he was up there, but i didn't see him. he was up there and then gary, my son, was on the other side of the house. and gary opened the door to go
what he was trying to do, and hit by the reality of what happened. the story of ed bledsoe and so many stories. bledsoe said that no one told him anything about evacuating. he said that his wife had called 911 and they told her someone would come get her. >> for more now, dan simon has been following this story. he has the latest from one of the worst-hit neighborhoods in california. >> reporter: for the first time we're now beginning to hear fire officials express optimism about the overall effort. they indicated that the containment number is going to go up. that means that the resources that they put into this fire now seem to be working. you have about 3,500 firefighters on the front lines, and obviously a lot of aircraft dumping water on the hot spots. in the meantime we are in the lake redding estates subdivision, and you can see this is one of the homes that has been destroyed. you can see this is a two-car garage. you see the two vehicles right here. and underscoring the random nature of it all, you can see next door, you see this house
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really heard a good answer for that unless they evacuate large swaths of the population days in advance. and that creates chaos as well. so it's tough. >> brianna sacks, i'm sure you heard that story just a few minutes ago of ed bledsoe talking about the fact his wife called 911 and they told her that someone would get her. so certainly the evacuation word getting that out very important. thank you for your time today. we'll keep in touch with you. >> no problem. >> thank you, brianna. brianna and our other reporters, pedram is here now, saying this fire just moved ahead of all the officials and the firefighters and the police. it was taking the lead, and that's where they are. >> yeah. an incredible fire. when you think about the month of july across the western if you're watching us from there you know it's absolutely among the hottest we've ever observed. in place like seattle, washington second hottest july going to be wrapping up here soon on record across that region. but really the northwestern
corner of the u.s. and in particular northern portions of california, you look from space, from regd points southward, the smoke, the haze, all of this really seen from space. many, many miles up into space looking down toward the surface because of the vast nature and how expansive the flames have been over the last several days in this region. in fact, when you do the math it's about 140 square miles of land that have been consumed because of the carr fire. you take, say, the island of manhattan, that's about 22 square miles of land. that's about six times the amount of land of manhattan encompassed there and consumes in a matter of a few days. kind of puts a perspective on the scale of this fire. 5% contained. but again you heard firefighters and officials saying that will be expected to be increased in the next couple of days. of course we have the ferguson fire farther toward the east and the cranston fire farther toward the south. but upwards of nearly 90 large-scale fires, almost every single one of them related to at least some drought that's been in place. we know the carr fire associated with a vehicle that had broken down, pulled to the side of the
road, and ignited the flames on the dry grass across that region of northern california. and unfortunately in this part of the state if you have been here you know the lay of the land. very mountainous, very hilly terrain. and the thermal signature of these fires shows you the landscape they're atop of. when you have a landscape as such, when you have sloped land like this, it often allows the fire to pick up speed and tremendous speed as it travels uphill. i use the analogy frequently of taking a match lighting it and holding it straight out. and you see that burn slowly toward your finger. but if you give it a slope it burns very rapidly toward your hand and that's what's happening on these hillsides and these communities. >> that's an easy way to understand it. pedram, thank you so much. >> thank you, pedram. still ahead here on "cnn newsroom," the u.s. president attacks the russia investigation as an illegal scam as he calls it, and that's just the beginning. why he claims the special counsel, who is a republican, he claims he has numerous conflicts of interest. we'll look into that. also ahead, president trump is threatening to shut down the
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an image of the u.s. president there arriving back to washington after a weekend at his new jersey golf club. mr. trump arrived at the white house with his granddaughter on sunday. >> the president did not make any public comments during his weekend away but he did go on another twitter tirade on sunday. this time he called out special counsel robert mueller by name, alleging he has conflicts of interest, that his investigation is rigged, and that he's leading a team of angry democrats. >> it is worth reiterating, robert mueller is a registered republican and he has the justice department stamp of approval to oversee the russia investigation. our boris sanchez takes a closer look now at the president's twitter rampage. >> reporter: cnn has reached out to the white house to get clarity on specifically what president trump was referencing when he mentioned business conflicts with the special counsel robert mueller. we have yet to hear back. but previous reporting may indicate what the president was
talking about here. earlier this year the "washington post" and the "new york times" separately reported that the president had privately expressed frustration with what he sees as conflicts of interest with robert mueller rooted in what he believes are unpaid dues that robert mueller owed his golf club in virginia. a spokesperson for the special counsel at the time responded to the "washington post" saying that those claims being made by president trump were inaccurate. of course the broader context here is that reporting came out when "the new york times" published that four sources had told them that president trump tried to fire robert mueller last year and that in that process he expressed his frustration to don mcgahn, the white house counsel. don mcgahn refused to carry out that order to fire mueller. in fact, he threatened to resign according to sources. at that point president trump backed off of his decision to try to fire mueller. now he's obviously frustrated again, tweeting out some of his
most direct attacks on the special counsel. the backdrop of that of course is this bombshell reporting. sources close to michael cohen, the president's former attorney, saying he is prepared to testify to the special counsel that president trump approved that june 2016 meeting between his son donald trump jr., other members of his campaign, and russian nationals, promising dirt on hillary clinton. it also comes on the heels of the release of that secret recording made by michael cohen of a conversation that he had with president trump. rudy giuliani, the president's relatively new attorney, talked about those recordings this weekend, suggesting that they had been tampered with or doctored. listen to this. >> he abruptly ended that recording as soon as the president said the word "check." we are now -- what we're investigating is why did -- how did that happen? what actually did happen? what was eliminated? and then he's got to raise that question with every one of these tapes, how many of them did he play around with.
we have determined the fact that he tampered with the fact in the sense that he abruptly mid-conversation turned it off. now, we know he didn't do that for a good reason. >> reporter: the president and his legal team strategy here is clear. they want to question the credibility not only of michael cohen, who just a few months ago they referred to as an honorable man, but also the veracity of the recordings that he made. boris sanchez, cnn, traveling with the president just outside bedminster, new jersey. >> let's bring in freddie gray. he's the deputy editor at "the spectator," a weekly british magazine, to talk more about what's going on here on this side of the pond. freddie, thank you for talking with us. we just heard that story from our reporter about what the white house is trying to do to debunk the mueller investigation, something they've done over and over again. the question is is it working? >> well, i think that every time trump goes on one of these
twitter tirades, i think there were 17 yesterday, which is pretty spectacular even by his standards, everybody assumes that it's a sort of venting of frustration. he has obviously the cohen thing hanging over him. he has paul manafort coming up this week, the paul manafort trial. so he must be very tense and anxious. and everybody assumes that this is an unconscious, unwilling venting of rage and anger. i'm not sure it is. i think perhaps he's trying to hype up the sense of drama to a certain extent. and in fact, often when he goes on these tirades about mueller or about the mueller inquiry, i admit yesterday was spectacular, it's really a diversion tactic because he's preparing to do something more significant on foreign policy. perhaps it will be iran. we'll see. >> that's true. well, the president continues to paint the free press as the enemy of the country every step of the way. yeah. >> as this mueller investigation ticks on. saying don't believe anything
you see or hear. the question is how many of his supporters believe him? apparently a lot. how does he continue to get that support do you think? >> well, i think it saddens me to say it as a journalist but i think unfortunately the media are a lot more hated than we'd like to admit. and while we may all agree, and i think you know, even news channels that are usually very opposed to cnn have been supportive of cnn over trump's war with cnn, but i think that the truth is a lot of people don't trust the media. a lot of people think of the media as bad if not worse than the politicians. so it is quite an effective tactic among the base, although i think the vee mens with which he's now doing it is perhaps alienating rather a lot of people who fundamentally believe in free speech, thank goodness. >> yeah. and you talk about that vehemence. "the new york times" met with him recently to talk about that and they wrote about it. if we have that.
about the meeting. mr. trump expressed pride in popularizing the phrase "fake news" when he met with the "new york times" and said "other countries had begun banning it." so the publisher of the "new york times" responded that those countries were dictatorships that that they were not banning fake news but rather independent scrutiny of their actions. it seems, though, the meeting with the "new york times" nothing to cause mr. trump to back down. sorry. we lost mr. gray -- >> yeah. >> thank you so much for joining us. we lost you there for a moment. can you hear me now? >> i can. sorry. you're back. >> oh, yes. so sorry about that. my point was as we have to go here, though, that this president just will not back down no matter how the media tries to respond to his continuous attacks. >> no. he will not back down in the war on the media because he senses he's going to win it. >> well, thank you so much. we'll wait and see about that, won't we? those of us in the media.
freddie gray, thank you, from "the spectator." thanks for joining us. >> we just keep reporting the news. >> yep. that's all we can do. the u.s. president is now 19 months in office and is returning to a central campaign issue that fired up his base in 2016, a promise to build a border wall. but a change in who's paying for it. let's listen. >> we are going to build a great border wall! >> we will build a great, great wall. >> we're going to build a wall. don't worry about it. oh, we're building it. >> i promise, we will build the wall. >> and who's going to pay for the wall? [ crowd shouts "mexico" ] >> how about no? mexico's not going to pay for that wall. in fact, president trump apparently expects congress to foot the bill for his border wall. >> and he's again threatening a government shutdown if he doesn't get his way, tweeting, "i would be willing to shut down government if the democrats do
not give us the votes for border security which includes the wall." meantime, more than 700 children separated from their parents at the border still have not been reunited with their families after the court-ordered reunification deadline passed on friday. cnn's kaley hartung has more for us from mcallen, texas. >> reporter: as we've reported on the impact of president trump's zero tolerance policy, we've learned no two family stories are the same. but there have been some common threads among them. that of confusion and frustration. at times chaos and incredible challenges in communication. the story that best encapsulates where we are today, though, is that of a woman we'll call alejandra. about a month and a half ago she and her 6-year-old daughter crossed the u.s. border. they had fled their home country of honduras because of the gang violence there. when they crossed the border, they were detained and separated. 11 days ago alejandra was told that she would be reunited with her daughter later that day, given her paperwork for release. but that never happened.
as of today she continues to sit in a detention facility in texas. her daughter remains in new york. and as alejandra asks questions, as she sits in limbo, here's what she says she's told. >> translator: the first thing that i ask is always, do you know when will be, my girl will be brought here so she can be reunified with me? and they tell me, no, i don't know anything, they say to me. >> reporter: alejandra's daughter's attorney has been told a red flag has been raised in the child's case. hhs says they will not comment on specific cases. but a spokesperson tells cnn that any family who hasn't been reunited yet is because of specific concerns they have for that family. as i said no, two stories are alike, but frustration remains for so many. kailee hartung, cnn, mcallen, texas. >> kaylee, thank you. california is not the only region with wildfires ravaging that part of the world. europe also has them. and a devastating heat wave.
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he claims mueller has a conflict of interest because they once had a contentious business relationship, though the president did not elaborate on what he was talking about there. and mr. trump once again railed against the russia investigation, calling it an illegal scam. the publisher of the "new york times" says he warned president trump that his attacks on the media are divisive and dangerous. the two met earlier this no. in a tweet on sunday mr. trump called that meeting interesting and went on to blast the media. voters in zimbabwe are heading to the polls in their first election since former president robert mugabe was ousted under military threat. mr. mugabe ruled the country for 37 years and now he says he will not vote for his former party. instead he is suggesting he supports the opposition leader. in the u.s. state of california firefighters there making some progress, containing a wildfire that has killed at least six people.
the carr fire, as it's called, is now 17% contained after exploding to 95,000 acres, or about 38,000 hectares on sunday. at least seven people are still missing there. the carr fire is just one of 17 fires burning up and down california. and another deadly fire, the so-called ferguson fire, that's happening in the yosemite national park area. >> a second firefighter died battling those flames on sunday. since starting two weeks ago, it has torched 22,000 hectares, about 54,000 acres. it is 30% contained right now. the u.s. certainly isn't alone in dealing with deadly wildfires. europe has fired of its own. in greece and sweden. and it's in the middle of a heat wave. satellite images from the european space agency show just how bad it is. this is denmark in the center. in less than a month you can see the vegetation has been gutted by extreme temperatures.
>> and it happens so quickly, doesn't it? you just see how quickly it happens. it's not just europe. in the u.s. there's also a deadly heat wave in japan. dozens of people there have been killed and thousands more hospitalized. around the world 2018 is on pace to be the fourth hottest year on record. the heat isn't the only problem. japan also has been hit by deadly flooding in recent weeks, and it's been lashed by another typhoon. at the same time severe flooding is striking india. there too dozens of people have reportedly been killed. >> let's talk more about this with andrew revkinds. he's a strategic, environmental, and science journalist with the national geographic society and the author of "weather: an illustrated history from cloud atlases to climate change." andrew, thank you so much for joining us and talking with us. >> it's a pleasure. >> we just referenced a rundown of the heat-related issues going on around the world right now.
from japan to england, canada, california where there are 17 wildfires raging. is global warming the common thread here? do we know? >> it's a common thread. the problem is we live in a world where so many things are changing. when the houston floods happened, i interviewed a jeeg rafr named steven straiter. i was at pro publica at the time. not national geographic society. for a big story on development of disasters. what's happened is almost a fast forward. actually, faster than climate is changing, which is happening, we are building our way into these blood and fire zones all around the world at a speed that's remarkable. steve straider, this villanova university gee og rafr calls it an expanding bullseye. it's as if we're painting a bullseye in the way of these hot zones. >> building our way in.
explain that. >> if you just look at areas like redding, california where they've had this horrible most recent fire tragedy in northern california, central california, just anyone can go on google earth. they have this google earth engine. you can go back in time. go back 30 years and look at the satellite view of the houses. you can zoom and see all these little areas in the woods just being built into so fast that the exposure to fire is happening -- the risk is being driven just by that at a super fast rate. and i've written about this year after year after year in different parts of the country in different like flood zones on the gulf coast, fire zones in colorado, california. the rate of development of these areas is so fast that when you see a new fire if you take a footprint of that fire you look back 40 years ago you see wow, there were hardly any people there 40 years ago. sought thing that's building exposure to hazard fastest is
us. and that kind of gets lost. and that doesn't mean climate change isn't happening also. it just means we have to pay attention to more than one thing at i atime. >> right. we're putting ourselves into pockets where there are situations, especially california, where fires have become so prevalent. in fact, just this weekend the governor of california said this is the new normal where there's been a fire every month since 2012 where it used to be a fire season would settle down, there wouldn't be any in the fall and winter. so what we're seeing around the world, we've got new normal meets we're not really paying attention, are we, to the new normal? >> well, again, whether it's the news, whether it's us, or whether it's policy makers, the governor, jerry brown has been very quick to focus californians and the rest of the world on climate change. he's been a very powerful spokesman on that. but it's very rare to see him or other california politicians in these areas of rapid growth
saying we need to slow down. we need to change our zoning. we need to have tighter standards on how we build. that kind of cuts against the message in the west of the possibility of everyone being able to do what they want. and that really has to be part of the conversation also, especially because even if the world got serious about global warming, even if china and india and we all kimt igss and greenhouse gases, the climate system doesn't notice that for decades. this is a big system. it's in motion. like a bus that's already rolling down a hill. you can't just sort of magically change that. the vulnerability is building right now. you know, in ways that can be changed even as we work on the bigger issue of cutting emissions of greenhouse gases. >> he why, which we haven't done. is this accurate? the world remains more than 85% reliant on fossil fuels. >> yeah. this is my 30th year writing about global warming. i am getting a gray beard.
and i look back at the story i wrote in 1988. it was a big cover story in "discover" magazine. and it's essentially the same story. we were talking earlier, when you were with the weather channel you were on this beat too in the 2006-ish. and that was shortly after katrina and florida was hammered by a bunch of hurricanes. and then we headed -- like a hurricane drought for ten years. everyone kind of goes to sleep. in my new book one of the chapters is back then actually around 2006 all these climate scientists were arguing about hurricanes in a warming world. some were saying, we don't really know the things about hurricanes is they could get weaker in a warming world, blah, blah, blah. but the one thing they all agreed on, they wrote this one letter that's in this book, where they said you know the thing we're really worried about, all of us, is we're building way too fast in hurricane danger zones. and that's the thing that -- that's the message that gets lost too often. >> right. it's a complex issue and every
time these things pop up we try to visit it and check it. but we appreciate so much you taking the time. andrew revkin, environmentalist and science writer with national geographic society. >> great to be with you. just around the corner, the u.s. midterm elections three months away, and president trump is making a big push for republican candidates this week. he'll attend rallies in the u.s. state of florida and pennsylvania. two states in which he won the presidential election two years ago. >> what is at stake? control of the house and senate. cnn's john king has been analyzing the numbers and explains how the powerful in congress could shift. >> 100 days now to the midterm elections. new cnn rankings, brand new rankings give the democrats even more reason to feel bullish about their odds of retaking the big prize, control of the house of representatives. to the campaign trail in a second. first, though, a reminder of the current state of play. let's look at the house as we speak today.
235 republicans. that's the majority. you see the red seats down here. democrats in the minority with 193. but that's the state of play here in washington. let's take a look at our new rankings out on the campaign trail and you will see 235 republican seats. we rank only 158 of them as solid republican going into the final stretch of the campaign. 29 likely 3718 lean republicans. you see the yellow, the gold. that's 27 tossup seats. strong number for the democrats, 182 solid, 9 likely, 12 leaning democratic seats. how will the democrats get to the majority? here is their dream scenario. wnt likelies, win the leans. if they could sweep these tossups, that's the gold down there, 230. if the democrats essentially run the board. 230. well in excess of what they need to be the majority. again, that's a dream vision but it does show you how this is well within their reach heading into the final stretch. one of the reasons they're so bullish, let's take a closer look at the tossup seats. see the red on top? of the 27 tossup seats 25 are
currently held by republicans. 25 of the 27 tossups are currently republican-held seats. only two held by the democrats. again, with the wind at your back a reason the democrats are optimistic. more republican seats moving from the red into the competitive side of our map here. another reason the democrats are optimistic heading into the final 100 days, their standing today is even better than it was at the beginning of the year. they were optimistic then. look at the republican numbers. 177 solid to begin the year. down to 158 solid now. more seats have moved from dark red, solid republican, this way, toward the democrats. the democratic numbers are up. 182 solid now. up from the beginning of the year. so this map looks good for the democrats now at 100 days ow out. even better than it was in january. a lot can happen between now and then, but heading into this final stretch democrats believe their odds are quite good of retaking the biggest prize this november, kroeflt house. >> john king, thank you. for the first time in 37
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people's television screens simply by calling a press conference. now, bear in mind that the last day of campaigning was saturday, this weekend that's gone by. on sunday he called a press conference and he said some astounding things. he basically mainly complained about the lowness of his pension, that the blue roof mansion in which he's living is falling apart and has not been maintained. but the shocker was him then saying that of all the 23 candidates in this historic election never has there been that number of candidates. he cannot support the people that have given him such misery and have denied him all his rights. of course he's referring to the incumbent president mr. emmerman menungawa. he said of the 22 candidates, chemisa perhaps. that is an astounding claim for the founder of zanu-pf. he's the man who has led this
party and this country for 37 years and it sounds like rancor and a great deal of anger. but not many people see him as being that relevant and in fact this morning all the papers are leading with the same story. the state newspaper says hang on a second, is there chemisa in bed with mr. mugabe? and they're using it to score points. meanwhile the independent newspapers are saying things like this. "it's my day," chamisa is telth people of zimbabwe and to try and vote for him. it's been a very interesting last weekend of campaigning. i have to till, everyone is looking forward to see just who is going to win. many people are calling it very close. of course the main candidates are claiming victory. >> it will be a significant changing of the guard. and at the same time mr. mugabe finding a way to claim relevance, as you say, holding a press conference and saying that he will not back the party that he created.
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welcome back to "cnn newsroom." in a couple of days there will be an entirely new angle to the debate over guns in america. and it comes down to ghost guns and 3-d firearms like the one you see here. what it means is anyone with access to the internet, they will be able to make their own guns like this one with a 3-d printer. >> the blueprints for them are set to go online. as cnn's athena jones reports, gun control advocates say it is a threat to public safety and national security. >> reporter: it could be the dawn of a new era in gun manufacturing. starting as soon as wednesday, people will be able to use 3-d printers to make their own weapons and weapon parts. no background check required. this after the government settled a lawsuit last month with a non-profit group defense
distributed that will allow the posting of 3-d printable gun plans online, a move that's triggering a debate about public safety and national security. the group's founder, coe wilson, has built a website where people will be able to download plans for a handgun he dubs the liberator as well as digital files for a complete baretta m-9 handgun and other firearms. wilson's legal battle began after he posted handgun blueprints online in 2013, leading to a demand from the state department to take them down because they could violate a law regulating the export of defense materials, services and technical data like blueprints. wilson explained his goal in a 2013 interview. >> i'm putting guns -- one is just an exercise in, i don't know, experimentalism. can you print a gun? but really for me it's important as like a symbolic political statement. >> reporter: he described a future in which people could access unregulated guns. >> in this future people will be able to make guns for themselves. that was already true but now it's been demonstrated in yet another technology. >> reporter: the june 29th settlement will also allow wilson's site to post online plans for an ar-15 lower
receiver, a key component of the gun. gun control advocates fear these firearms made almost entirely of plastic would be untraceable and impossible to regulate. the co-president of the brady campaign to prevent gun violence says these hard to detect guns would be a national security threat, making it easier for terrorists and people who can't pass criminal background checks to get their hands on dangerous weapons, adding "i think everybody in america ought to be terrified about that." but experts like lawrence keen, senior vice president for the national shooting sports foundation, the firearm industry's trade association, says "3-d printed guns would have to include metal components to function." and because federal law requires it. >> federal law since the mid 1980s under the undetectible fiernlz act requires a certain amount of metals so they are not undetectible and can't go through metal detectors undetected or through x-ray machines. >> reporter: even with those metal components the guns would not work well. >> the truth is that they don't.
many times they fail after a single shot being fired, they break. they're not very durable. and they really don't work. >> reporter: he said the sort of high-end printer that would be needed to make a gun costs as much as a quarter a million dollars and the resulting weapons' unreliability means the country is unlikely to see a rush of people trying to print their own guns. new york senator chuck schumer expressed similar concerns back in 2013. >> a felon, a terrorist can make a gun in the comfort of their own home, not even leaving their home, and do terrible damage with it. and so the question is what we do about it. >> reporter: last week he demanded the state department and the department of justice reverse the decision or postpone finalizing it and said if they don't he would use emergency congressional actions to block ghost gun websites. >> so we're here to sound the ala alarm. we're here to plead with the administration not to allow these types of websites to go
forward with which they're planning to on august 1st, and we're here to say we'll pass legislation, do our best to pass it, if such a website is allowed. >> reporter: athena jones, cnn, new york. thanks for being with us for "cnn newsroom." i'm george howell. >> and i'm natalie allen. we'll be right back with another hour of news for you. please stay with us. sometimes a day at the ballpark is more than just a day at the ballpark. stadium announcer: all military members stand and be recognized. no matter where or when you served, t-mobile stands ready to serve you. that's why we're providing half off family lines to all military. whoooo. you rely on tripadvisor so you don't miss out on the perfect hotel... but did you know you can also use tripadvisor so you don't miss out on the best price? tripadvisor searches over 200 booking sites to find the hotel you want for the lowest price. saving you up to 30%! so you can spend less time missing out...
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the white house for clarification on that. they have yet to respond to our questions. there is previous reporting out there about conversations president trump has had privately with some, including his own white house counsel, don mcgann, making complaints about what he sees as conflicts of interest on behalf of robert mueller. according to four separate sources who spoke to the "new york times" earlier this year as part of a tirade president trump went on against robert mueller, he complained mueller left his virginia golf club over a disspews because of golfing fees. a spokesperson for the special counsel told the "washington post" that was inaccurate. president trump, if you recall, it was reported, tried to fire robert mueller until his counsel, don mcgann, threatened to resign at which president trump backed off. again, this is the frustration of president trump of his own attorney making bombshell
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here he is attacking mueller and the press and immigration policies of the u.s. is trump going back to his greatest hits here or are these attacks somehow different? >> it does seem like there is a late sunday barrage of these. this has been a tough week for the president, not the least of which is because his long time attorney and counsel, michael cohen, obviously this past week, we have seen it so dramatically, turned against him in a tense and offering evidence to the public and presumably to prosecutors that could implicate the president. it seems if the tweets are a sign of his mood, it is not a happy state where the president is just now. >> and we also learned this week, robert mueller is looking at the tweets as part of his investigation and here he is going after him on twitter. you're a defense attorney, you
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darned with the facts. it seems like it doesn't matter. i was looking the other day at a study the president was told 2100 lies, he tells five lie as day. it's really disheartening because it doesn't appear to be about the fact, about getting your base to believe that the investigation is a witch hunt. the investigation has no substance, the investigation is all about going after me. that's a shame because if he should focus on substance and really focused on politics. >> all the news about michael cohen this week is coming a bit of a drama before our eyes, we learned a few days ago, trump's former attorney, michael cohen is willing to tell mueller trump knew about that 2016 meeting before it happened. if true, what could this mean for the president? >> there are a couple of stories this week and the other story cnn broke earlier this week was the excerpt of the tape michael cohen recorded his client as he
the fact of special counsel closing in on him and has a southern district investigation. at the end of the day, you see there would be an opportunity for him, based on the proximity to the president, to know what's going on. if he is a person that's not credible or has no veracity for 15 years, why did you keep him around? it makes no sense. the issue whether the president knew or didn't know about this meeting, i don't think it has any legal significance. did we really need michael cohen to tell us about this meeting? was there not enough circumstantial evidence with blocked phone calls relating to don jr. with the president saying two days before the meeting he was coming out with a speech, that was circumstantial. as to the issue of an actual meeting, it's okay -- it's not okay -- it's not like a deposition he lied at, he lied to the press and he has become very adept at that without consequence.
at the end of the day if he knew about the meeting, it's not illegal to have the meeting in itself. it's the substance. it may have a lot of political significance but on the legal side i don't think it has significance. >> we will see what robert mueller does about it. obviously part of the southern district of new york who has cohen's case. thank you both. we have more news on this deadly california wildfire taking another life, more in just minutes. live in the cnn "newsroom." are you taking the tissue test?
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just 5% containment, barely worth mentioning. one that was just mentioned at the news conference in redding is entirely man made. they mentioned drones. >> we have noticed there are drone footages online of folks flying drones over this fire. that poses a huge safety risk to our folks. if you fly, cannot. we have to ground all our aircraft if there's reports of drones over the fire. it's quite the process to get them out of the area and chase that down after finding where they're coming from. we ask you please refrain from flying drones over the fire. >> covering this fires all week, dan, from redding.
officials they they will soon be contained. >> reporter: they have said they will be turning a corner for days but things seemed hopeless. the commander said quote we are feeling more optimistic today and finding good progress. i think by tonight you will see containment percentages increase. what that means we don't know. right now, it is 5% contained. but any spike would be welcomed after the residents felt paralyzed. you have 38,000 people under evacuation order, you can't get a hotel in the area. the evacuation center is full and people i'm sure are anxious to get back into their homes. this is one of the subdivisions we have seen all day, and underscoring the random nature of the fire, one burn down to
the ground and the one next door completely standing. the containment numbers will go up. i have to tell you, this area does remain under a red flag warning, supposed to be windy tonight. i think officials are cautiously optimistic. >> difficult to see some of those images. up next, the community is coming together for those helped to evacuate. they're getting big help. celebrity chef guy fieri next in the "newsroom." first, christine romans. >> wall street will get one of the biggest earnings report this week, apple, set to report tuesday after the closing bell. the stock is up 15% this year and climbed steadily the past month. apple insiders will be looking
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call or go online today. welcome back. we have some images right now of the president here as he heads back to d.c. after spending a weekend in his golf club in new jersey. see him there walk from, i believe that's air force one or marine one. i guess marine one would make sense, given the color of it. he's walking past reporters. every now and then he'll take questions. we'll see if he does this time. he has been on a twitter storm as we've been reporting here the last few hours, going after
robert mueller, now getting on air force one to make his trip home arriving off marine one and back to the white house he goes. he's heading back to the white house. if you can believe it, midterm elections are right around the corner, just 100 days away now. president trump to make a big push in california and pennsylvania and florida. analyzing how republicans can maintain control in congress and how democrats can pull off a congressional victory. watch. >> 100 days now to the midterm elections, new cnn rankings give the democrats a reason to feel more bullish to take over control of the house of representatives. to the campaign trail, a look at the current state of play. let's look at the house. 235 republicans, the majority. see the red seats, democrats in the minority with 193. that's the state of play in
washington. let's look at our new rankings on the campaign trail. 235 republican seats, rewarning only 158 of them as solid republican going into the final stretch of the campaign. 29 likely, 18 lean republican, see the yellow or gold, 27 toss-up seats, strong number for democrats, 182 solid, nine likely, 12 lean democrat seats. how do democrats get to the majority. here is their dream scenario, win the likelies and dreams, 230, if they run the board, well in excess of what they need to be the majority. again, that's a dream vision. it does show you how this is well within their reach in the final stretch. one of the reasons they're so bullish, look at the toss-up seats. of the 27 toss-up seats, 25 are currently held by republicans. 25 of the 27 toss-ups are currently republican held seats,
only two held by democrats. with the wind at your back the reason democrats are more optimistic. more of the democrats into the red and their standing today is even better than the beginning of the year. look at the republican numbers, 177 solid to begin the year down to 158 solid now. more seats have moved from dark red solid republican this way towards the democrats. democratic numbers are up, 182 now. 176 in january. a lot can happen between now and then. heading into this final stretch democrats believe their odds are quite good at taking the biggest prize this november, control of the house. >> thanks, john king. let's discuss with senior writer and analyst and steve cortez,
from president trump. you just heard the news. are you worried? >> i am worried and i agree with him. history argues for the democrats. a president's first term is usually disastrous, obama and reagan and they had a good second term but had trouble in the first election. it gives me optimism. i think they will win if they can just resist from being crazy. i used resist on purpose. i'm not sure they can resist being crazy. we've heard the most radical wing go crazy, abolish i.c.e. and cortez. if they go there they will jeopardize what should be their victory and the second way they
lose if they keep going back to the impeachment. if we want to win as republicans we have to put trump de facto on the ballot. make the case, i think it's accurate, democrats will impeach this president if they take control of the house and i think they can score an upset and energize the deplorables to convince them this is really a trump re-elect. >> when you hear about the economy it's so strong and you hear if the economy is so strong you have good political power. as john king just reported, are there signs to be encouraging. >> yes, on the encouraging side we know donald trump's approval rating is up, that's a factor. if it's near 50% it's not and not anywhere close to the 50% now then republicans are almost certainly cruising for a bruising. the economy that has been good
since the beginning of the year hasn't moved the numbers at all. even though trump's approval rate is up, congressional ballot is still bad for republicans, but if that is seven, plus eight, plus nine to election day it seems to me democrats will take control of the house of representatives. >> we have enthusiasm for democrats right now. hold your thought because i want to read what trump is tweeting. he seems to know what gets his supporters motivated. he's going back to a topic he knows will fire up his base, immigration. from another tweet today, i would be willing to shut down the government if the democrats do not give us the votes for border security, including the wall, must get rid of the rotly, catch and release and finally go to a system of immigration based on merit. we need great people coming into our country. >> do you think the wall is worth the government shutdown? >> i certainly do.
this was the foundation he was elected on. nothing gets his base fired up than these issues. it's smart politics and good policy. he won 230 congressional districts. if congressional republicans would embrace him and his vision they would keep the house. the reason of the house is very much in doubt and i was worried because far too many house republicans have been establishment squishes and not embraced the 2016 message of sovereignty and populism. if they embrace it, a real immigration bill, border security, ending visa lottery and catch and release. if we actually did that before november i wouldn't be worried at all about us keeping the house. >> a government shutdown, you think his voters would say, yeah, it's worth it? before the election? isn't that going to hurt some of his voters?
>> look, it might. we had two this year. the country's not exactly falling apart, as a matter of fact, quite the opposite. things are going great in this country. two shutdowns already and it hasn't been armageddon. it's worth at least playing brinkmanship. we need to take risks as republicans. i agree with the article and what john king said, the table is set for democrats. if we're not adventurous and bold we will lose control of the house. if we lose control of the house, they will impeach trump and not good for the country and obviously not president trump. let's get him on the ballot. the way to do that is immigration. >> do you agree? >> i agree immigration is good for republicans. i believe republicans are more enthusiastic about immigration than democrats are. i do not agree if they tied
themselves to trump, it would be good. donald trump has 42% approval rating. if it's not better than that, it's over. there hasn't been a president whose party didn't suffer in the midterm elections. normally the president's approval rating at this point holds to the election. the one time it didn't happen was jimmy carter. we still have 100 days to go. at this particular point it's bad for them. >> independence, a whole other piece of the puzzle, right? >> exactly. we're talking about donald trump's base. the republican party will carry 90% of the voters donald trump won in 2016 in this midterm election. if that 10% we're looking at of his base that voted for him in 2016 but probably because they didn't like hillary clinton, and she's now not on the ballot. if that goes over to the democrats this midterm it will be a democrat landslide.
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election seriously. one of the main challenges is the new way russian hackers could mess with america, no longer just voter registrations. state sponsored hackers seem far more interested this year in demonstrating that they can disrupt the american electric utility grid. than according to the united states intelligence officials and technology company executives. is that what you're hearing from your sources as well? >> actually, the director of national intelligence had a briefing of reporters last week to walk us through some of the things they're seeing russia is doing. russia is looking at elections and also looking at things a lot more disturbing for national security officials, they're probing electricity grids, probing the various things you would need to keep communities running, the kind of thing perhaps in a military conflict
you might interfere with if you were a country like russia less military powerful than the united states but perhaps the u.s. might reconsider some sort of strike against moscow in a conflict if moscow was threatening to bring all of the u.s. power grids down. >> describe a worst case scenario if they get inside the power grid. could they trigger black-outs or destroy the electrical equipment? what could they do to things in place? >> what they could do is probing various power plants and probing utilities so perhaps they could trigger some sort of black-out city by city. they've also been doing things like probing utilities, possibly to get personal information. it's not really clear. some of these probes are disguised as criminal hacks, but
what u.s. intelligence officials believe this is, is laying the groundwork for future conflict in what they call a gray zone fight, where it measures short of war. they might be planning to do some of these things but do it in a way that is completely deniable so that they can cause chaos in the united states and u.s. economy, maybe pull down a market trading floor. but be able to say, hey, it wasn't us. >> i wonder about the approach because we know when it comes to elections there are a few senate democrats who have had their office attacked and russia is still trying to interfere in the midterms as well. >> microsoft told us at the aspen forum there were three different lawmakers who had
their campaigns interfered with so far and we had the head of cyber command tell us he has set up a specific department to deflect and detect russian interference of various types. he didn't give us too much detail on that. what that does tell you is that even though president donald trump seems to go back and forth whether russia did try to hack or would try to hack, the professionals in the national security community are telling reporters, we're watching this, we're aware of it, and trying to message to moscow, we have your number. >> yet, when it comes to this potential election interference, national security officials are telling cnn they're operating with no coherent strategy from the top, all these different agencies essentially having to fend for theirselves without direction or support. is it important to be on the same page and have a united cohesive strategy? >> you do hear complaints they'd rather see something like the
counter-terrorism fight, where you have all the different elements of u.s. national power working together to target those who would do us harm in terrorism. but you've got the national security advisor, john bolton, who is no fan of russia, and some of his staff, who are looking at this. i think you will see them coalescing towards some sort of unified strategy. failing that, the different elements of national power doing what they do besty which is fighting each different arena and hoping that that is enough. >> kim dozier, great to see you, thank you very much. >> thank you. tonight on cnn, the only limitation is imagination. follow the rog degrees of animation from theater trailers to saturday morning and primetime tv on the web. the history of comedy on cnn at 10:00. art
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we actually saved $50,000. and that's just one school, two semesters, three girls. together, we're building a better california. people who know president trump worked for his companies and even wrote books about him say there is one universal constant about this man, that you can count on him to stretch the truth even outright lie if it suits the situation. that's not a new facet of donald trump's personality. here's gloria borger. >> reporter: from the election itself -- >> in many places like california, the same person votes many times. you probably heard about that. they always like to say, oh, that's a conspiracy theory, not a conspiracy theory, millions
and millions of people. >> reporter: to the inauguration. >> we had a massive field of people. you saw that. it went all the way back to the washington monument. >> reporter: to statements like this. >> what you're seeing and what you're reading is not what's happening. >> reporter: donald trump has had a fraught relationship with the truth, one that goes back decades, to the building and selling of trump tower, where barbara rez managed the construction. >> he pointed that princess di was looking for a trump tower in trump town. >> reporter: that didn't happen? >> no. but it made the papers. >> reporter: veracity wasn't a part of it, getting the buzz out there? >> yes. >> reporter: about trump? did you guys laugh about it? >> yeah. nothing so terrible about it. like puffing, like exaggerating. >> reporter: tony schwartz, co-author of trump's "art of the deal" has a name for this.
>> i came up with this phrase, truthful hyperbole. i called it an innocent form of exaggeration. now, i can call it something i actually sold for $2 million and say ten million and that becomes truthful hyperbole. the problem is there is no such thing as truthful hyperbole. the truth is the truth. hyperbole is a lie and they don't go together. >> reporter: they didn't go together during during the troubled opening of trump's casino in 1990 when some of the slots didn't work. >> when the hotel commission went there coaching day to check out things had been done, many things hadn't been done, they shut down a third of the slots. >> reporter: slots critical to the casino's success. >> the slots were the prime for the casino. to shut down a third on opening day was humiliating and
disastrous. it was done because he doesn't have an organization in depth. >> reporter: that wasn't the story trump told. >> something could go bad like the opening of the taj, and he would say, it's because we had so much business here this happened, not that the system broke down, not that we didn't know what we were doing, we had so he could lie about everything and he did. >> the slots were so hot, nobody's, again, nobody seen people play that hard and that fast. >> so it blew out the slots? >> they blew apart. >> too much use? >> donald is so wrapped up in hyperbole that it's almost constant lies. you know, whether it's the littlest things where, you know, if you had 2,000 people at an event, you know, he would say there were 5,000 people at an event. >> and he got away with it. >> there is no belief system. >> if it will work, i will say it.
if it stops working, i'll say it's opposite. and i'll not feel any guilt about feeling it's opposite because i don't believe anything in the first place. >> reporter: switching gears is what he had to do after his press conference with putin, attempting to walk back this remark on election interference. >> my people came to me, dan coats came to me and some others and they said they think it's russia. i have president putin. he just said it's not russia. i will say this, i don't see any reason why it would be. >> in a key sentence in my remarks, i said the word would instead of wouldn't. the sentence should have been, i don't see any reason why i wouldn't or why it wouldn't be russia. >> seeing it from his perspective, doesn't make a zirve distinction between what is true and false. his distinction is what will work and when will not work. >> reporter: and what happens when he is challenged with
facts? what does he do? >> he has a genius, you know, perverse genius for turning any situation into something that is evidence of his brilliance. even if it's not true. >> reporter: gloria borger, cnn, washington. from washington to the other side of the country in celebrity chef knows all too well what people in the fire zone are dealing with right now. last fall a fire forced had imto evacuate his northern california home. how did he respond? he set up a mobile kitchen and he fell his evacuees and first responders. now he is helping out again. guy is joining us from reading, california. guy, thank you for spending time with us. northern california is your home turf. first, i just want to ask you, what are your thoughts about what you're seeing there? >> it's unbelievable. i mean it's unbelievable to see what folks are going through. but it's even more -- more
unbelievable of just how great this community is and all these folks that have come together and the salvation army. i mean we're in tough times as a world with all of the things going on. boy, you take a moment like this and you really see what america is made of. a lot of great people coming together. >> i'm a big fan of food network. i know how busy you r kudos for you taking action to help in the response. what is your plan? >> you know, the salvation army has been on the ground in reading and reading is a great place right here in northern california. i mean i come here for years as a kid. and they got involved right off the bat. and people are displaced. the fire is down and you can't see the sun. they need water and it's a regular basis. even my team and i got involved and my son and i and his buddies
and a bunch of mine loaded up the caravan from the wine country and drove four hours up here and just working arm in arm with the salvation army and local chefs and residents and everybody helping out ee vvacue. >> that is quite the undertaking. what it is like to try to, i guess, respond in that way, to try to feed that many people on just a moment's notice? >> you know, it's not the simplest thing but when you have a lot of people around you, i mean we got volunteers, probably have 20 volunteers right now standing in a parking lot at shasta college and made a make shift kitchen setup with one of the trailers and a bunch of stoves. and, you know what it is? the salvation army has people that are giving them great support. we have a group called operation barbecue relief getting involved. they're going to be here with a couple big trailers. more and more people are finding the shelters and the
opportunities that the shelters have. a lot of them don't know where to go and what to do. but salvation army is going to help set it up. cooking for that many people, we just did lunch for -- we just did lunch for 750 and getting ready to do dinner for the same group now. trying to keep the menu interesting. but i know folks are always asking me how can i help? what can i do? if you go to gosowarmy.org. they can go on and make a contribution. people need clothes and just life necessities. but they're a really great group to work with. >> guy, food is comfort especially during these difficult times for people. so thank you for what you're doing there, for giving back to that community and again, for just raising awareness of how people can help. we appreciate it. we're back in just a moment. how do you win at business? stay at laquinta. where we're changing with contemporary make-overs. then, use the ultimate power handshake, the upper hander with a double palm grab. who has the upper hand now? start winning today.
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passed. a little better prioritization of spending. i certainly don't like playing shutdown politics. >> and how damaging would that be for republicans ahead of the november races? >> i don't think it would be helpful, so let's try and avoid it. >> reporter: now, fred, sources close to so mume of my cnn colleagues on capitol hill have heard from people close to the republican leadership. house speaker paul ryan and senate majority leader mitch mcconnell had a meeting with president trump earlier this week telling him that appropriation bills were moving forward smoothly in a bipartisan fashion. they told him they didn't want anything to distract or derail potentially the supreme court nomination of brett kavanaugh. a government shutdown certainly would. sources indicated the president was receptive to their message, but obviously on twitter he is threatening one yet again, fred. >> all right, boris sanchez in new jersey. thank you so much. so this court ordered deadline to reunite children separated
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mother and daughter, who had traveled here for a month from el el salvador. they were briefly detained, never separated. they were getting on a bus from mcallen to go meet family in indianapolis. they're there now awaiting their first court date. but there you see, fred, timing is everything for what these families are having to endure. so much uncertainty still ahead for so many. >> and such a variety of experiences too. all right. kaylee hartung, thank you so much. so the president will also make a big push for republican candidatin candidates this week. he's hosting rallies in pennsylvania and florida, two states the president won in 2016, but with just 100 days until midterm elections, democrats are gearing up to flip as many seats as they can. cnn's john king has been analyzing how republicans could maintain control of both houses of congress and how drrtds could pu -- democrats could pull off a congressional upset. >> 100 days now until the midterm elections and new cnn
rankings give the democrats even more reason to feel bullish about their odds of retaking the big prize, control of the house of representatives. to the campaign trail in a second. first, though, a reminder of the current state of play. let's look at the house as we speak today. 235 republicans. that's the majority. you see the red seats. democrats in the minority with 193. but that's the state of play here in washington. let's take a look at hour new rankings on the campaign trail. you will see 235 republican seats. we rank only 158 of them as solid republican going into the final stretch of the campaign. 29 likely, 18 lean republican. you see the yellow, the gold. that's 27 toss-up seats. strong number for the democrats. 182 solid, 9 likely, 12 leaning democratic seats. how do the democrats get to the majority? here's their dream scenario. win the likelies, win the leans. if they could sweep these toss-ups, that's the gold, 230 if the democrats essentially run the board. well in excess of what they need to be the majority.
a lot can happen between now and then, but heading into this final stretch, democrats believe their odds are quite good of retaking the biggest prize this november, control of the house. >> all right. john king, thank you so much for that. my next guest is a democrat running for re-election in illinois. thank you so much for being with me. how are you feeling going into midterms? just 100 days away. >> i feel good. i think there's a lot of energy out there among democrats. i think that the question is whether that's going to translate into votes. i think it is. i think people are very aware of the kons kwenconsequences of no. i think 2016 is seared in the memory of a lot of democrats. i think people see democrats increasingly connecting to the working families that are so important for victories in all of those toss-up seats and all the other toss-up seats we need. >> i want to talk to you about
the president's approach 100 days out. he's tweeted out, says he's willing to shut down the government over funding for his border wall. how do you see that as beneficial strategy for republicans? >> i think that would be a tremendous mistake for the president for two reasons. it's bad policy and bad politics. people are very, very, very upset about our current immigration policies. the separation of children from their parents just being the latest example of really, really bad policies. i just visited some of these children that have yet to be reunited with their parents. i visited them on friday. it's a heart-wrenching example of immigration policy that's gone in a very bad direction. then, you know, most democrats and indeed many republicans are opposed to a wall in the first place. it's just a bad approach to handling our immigration policy.
>> so then what will be the consensus for democrats to try to win over perhaps more moderate voters in districts that could potentially flip? >> i think the best way to win over these voters is to talk about those bread and butter issues that affect working families. for instance, health care. this president and the administration have really tried to destabilize the insurance markets, hurting a lot of people. premiums have skyrocketed since the president tried to repeal the aca. the tax bill is very unpopular in a lot of parts of illinois where i represent. a lot of the benefits are going to the top 1% of income holders. and it's saddling future generations with trillions of dollars in debt. then the last thing, as people are very upset that the president appears to hold himself above the law. they're upset about the fact that the russians did interfere in our democracy.
we're not doing ourselves to protect ourselves from the russians. the president and some of his allies in congress are attacking the fbi, the very people that are trying to protect our democracy from the russians and other malign actors. >> so in addition to showcasing some of those issues, how much are democrats kind of pinning their hopes on new blood? you know, such as alexandra ocasio-cortez and her stunning upset in new york? is there a feeling that going after, you know, the younger, more diverse candidates is advantageous? >> i think we need a congress that reflects the diversity of our country. the fact that so many diverse candidates have ended up winning their primaries on the democratic side and are running in the general election is a good thing. i think that the more that we have candidates that reflect their constituency, the better.
i think that we're going to end up taking the majority because of that. >> the economy, the economy always an incredible motivation in any race, midterm or general election. and this strong economic report out this past week with the gdp at 4.1%, the economy is growing at the fastest pace on record since 2014. so this will be an advantage for republicans. does this mean democrats will stay away from this, find a way in which to see this as an asset for you? what? >> no, i think obviously a lot of people know that the recovery started during the obama administration. that's in part why he was re-elected. the president was in 2012. it's continued into the trump presidency. i think the president currently should continue to build on what he inherited. but the question is this. do working families feel like they are included in the economy?
do they feel like they're on the up escalator of the economy, so to speak? a lot of folks feel pinched in the middle class. i just passed a bill in congress in the senate and the house, and now it's going to be signed into law which basically tries to modernize our career technical education system for the two-thirds of americans who are not going to get a four-year college degree. it's so important we focus on the priorities of those working families and continue to connect with them. if we do, we will likely get their attention for the other issues that we care about as well. >> congressman, thanks so much. good to see you. >> thank you so much. all right. straight ahead in the newsroom, heartbreak in california as a fast-moving wildfire claims the lives of three more people, the fire scorchesing hundreds of homes and buildings. and he said, he said. rudy giuliani now accusing michael cohen of doctoring the tape of the president seemingly
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>> reporter: well, fred, i want to show you the front page of the local newspaper because i think it pretty much tells the story here. it says "no end in sight," which is a very helpless feeling for the people in this community because they don't know when they're going to be able to get back into their homes, and for those who have been evacuated, they don't know if they'll have a home to go back to. it's a very helpless feeling. the reason why there's no end in sight, that's because the fire is burning basically in all directions. combined with the fact you have absolutely brutal fire conditions, it remains very hot, triple-digit temperatures at least through the middle of the week. then at night, it gets very windy as this area remains under a red flag warning. in addition to all that, you talked about the missing people. right now that number stands at a dozen, which is a very scary number, but that does not mean that those folks are presumed dead. it simply could be a mun ka communications issue where people had to leave their homes at a moment's notice and forgot to bring their cell phone and
haven't been able to get in touch with relatives. so officials are optimistic that as time progresses, that hopefully that number will be reduced. fred? >> oh, my goodness. so dan, what about support coming in for these firefighter teams that are working around the clock? you mentioned no end in sight. it's very dry. humidity very low. what are they up against, and what kind of assistance are these teams needing? >> reporter: well, right now they do have a lot of firefighters battling this blaze. of course, they work in shifts. the number is at 4,000. they really can't get enough firefighters in here, though. they can use all the help that they can get. and one thing i might add, fred, is that this region in many ways just feels paralyzed because you have 38,000 people who are under this evacuation order. it's really impossible to get a hotel in the area. many of the evacuation shelters are also reaching maximum capacity. as i said, with that headline,
no end in sight, it just amounts to a feeling of frustration and nobody knows when this is going to end. >> all right, dan simon. thank you so much in redding. still ahead, rudy giuliani accuses michael cohen of tampering with secretly recorded conversations with president trump involving a payment to a former playboy model to concealed a alleged affair. what an audio forensics expert has to say about that possibility next. when i received the diagnoses, i knew at that exact moment ... i'm beating this. my main focus was to find a team of doctors. it's not just picking a surgeon, it's picking the care team and feeling secure in where you are. visit cancercenter.com/breast
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swipe at the credibility of former trump attorney and fixer michael cohen. cohen dropped a bombshell with his claim that candidate trump knew in advance about the june 2016 trump tower meeting. that's the one where the russians had promised dirt on hillary clinton. there was also the release of that secretly recorded tape of cohen and trump. they were discussing a potential payout related to former playboy model karen mcdougal over her allegations of an affair with trump. giuliani responded by calling michael cohen a pathological liar. here's what he said earlier today. >> you called him an honest, honorable lawyer just a few weeks ago. what changed? >> how did i know? why would i have not thought he was? i've never had a bad dealing with michael. i was being straight and honest. i didn't know that he taped conversations surreptitiously. i didn't know he would grossly violate the attorney-client privilege. i didn't know he would mislead
dozens of reporters. >> how much of the evidence that the fbi seized from michael cohen's place of work and residence relates to the president, beyond tapes? >> well, let me see if i can make it about as clear as possible. we know of something like 183 unique conversations on tape. one of those is with the president of the united states. that's the three-minute one involving the mcdougal payment. there are 12 others, maybe 11 or 12 others, out of the 183 in this tthe president is discussed at any length by cohen, mostly with reporters. all clearly corroborating what the president has said in detail on many of those tweets. in other words, that he didn't know about the payments to either one when it happened,
that he only found out later, that cohen made them not for the campaign -- he didn't like the campaign. he says very derogatory things about the campaign. he said i only made it because i personally love the president and melania. and that's why i made the payments, which takes it right out of the campaign contribution arsenal. so these are tapes i want you to read. i want you to hear them pip didn't think i'd be able to get them out publicly. somehow he and his lawyer have this crazy idea just throw it all out there. i think they also don't realize it's going to hurt them with the prosecutors. when i was a prosecutor, i didn't want some guy giving out all the evidence to the press. >> all right. let's talk about this. so what would be the motivation by the trickling of this kind of tape? wouldn't this potentially undermine the investigation by allowing this tape to get out? >> seems to be a game of chess
and not checkers. look, legal pundits have been arguing the legality and ethics of releasing this tape. should a lawyer tape a client? legally able to do that in new york. one-party consent state. ethically, there's some arguments both ways. look, the only reason that i could see that the cohen team, meaning lanny davis as his attorney, would be leaking these tapes out would be maybe to press for the special prosecutor to start working to cut a deal for michael cohen. now, it's interesting. i was a huge fan of rudy giuliani. i was in lower manhattan on september 11th of 2001. he was america's mayor. to see him in this political surrogacy role, it's so beneath him. he's going to argue for the president and say there was something on these tapes. if it's abruptly cut, that's
different. you can argue context, but that's not an altered tape. >> that's giuliani's argument, that it has altered. cnn hired an audio forensics expert who previewed the recording. this was his take. >> well, the clip is incomplete. we've got the beginning, i believe. i can see a start signature at the beginning of this recording. in other words, when the recorder was engaged. where the dialogue just abruptly ends and some new conversation comes in, there is a splicer and edit there. those two pieces are cut together. i can clearly see that. i'm certain any other forensic expert with the same qualifications would agree with me. >> so what does that mean to the uninitiated? >> that means that this is not an original, it's not a master, and it's not a complete recording. >> it means their conversation may well have continued beyond
that abrupt ending and that other call that comes in. >> that's a high degree of probability that that's the case. >> and i think that matches common sense as well. it seems like they're having a conversation and then something happened to the recording. what it is, we don't know and we can't tell from this. it seems to end on the word check. >> giuliani is arguing that it was doctored, meaning somehow it was edited, somehow he would be alleging that trump's voice, you know, was cleverly tucked in. how would investigators know about the content, the originality of this material? >> so let's put this into layman's terms. we just watched the expert chris cuomo had on. here's a recording device. let's say we're in a one-party consent state like new york. i would like to tape you. once i start it, if i am working for the fbi while this conversation is going on, this conversation we're looking at to prove criminal activity, i
cannot disengage the tape and then reengage the tape again. that creates a signature. that signature, forensics experts can go through that, listen to the audiotape and determine that. that's vastly different than taking a full tape and cutting it where someone argues it was taken out of context. you can argue the person making the tape is trying to take something out of context or take something away. if it's just cut or trimmed, then what the government is going to say is give us the full tape. >> what about the value of the content of this exchange, what's being said? there is some dialogue about -- and you hear the then-candidate, now president's voice talking about using a check as opposed to cash. how is that valuable to the investigation or this probe? >> great question. so this conversation apparently took place two months before the november of 2016 election. if it can be proven, and fred, this is where the devil lies in the details.
if it can be proven that president trump was trying to make this payoff so that he could be in a better election position, then you could argue that this was inappropriate behavior. but you've got to prove intent. if there's a tape we have not seen yet that comes out where he goes, we need to do this before the election, people could argue that. again, this is going to be one of those things where it's going to be left to the voter because whether or not they can prove intent on this and actually charge him with something, i've listened to a lot of much smarter legal folks than me, and they've argued it's just not there yet. >> so the president hasn't testified. he hasn't been deposed. but he has tweeted. he has said verbally in many ways, you know, that i knew nothing about it. that has been kind of the theme. if the tape -- or in the tape, we hear him saying, you know, check, not cash. that clearly says he does know something about it. so how does that equip robb mueller's team in its investigation? >> again, you have to prove that
he was agreeing, authorizing, or directing mr. cohen to make this payment because it needed to be done before the election. if they can't do that, hey, we can look at it and say it's tawdry behavior, it's unseemly, but then it's not illegal. that's what the issue is going to be. you've got mr. cohen saying one thing, mr. trump tweeting something else. it's like that seinfeld thing. it's not a lie if you believe it. it seems like everybody seems to believe what they're saying. it's going to be difficult for the special prosecutor to get to the bottom of this, but we trust he will. >> that may not necessarily be under the umbrella of the russia probe, but instead going into a different direction about misuse of -- you know, potential misuse of campaign funds. >> campaign finance funding, that's a huge issue in this. that's the only reason if they can prove that intent, then it becomes an illegality. if not, unseemly but not illegal. >> all right, james. always good to see you. thank you so much. straight ahead in the newsroom, growing outrage after
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a german cruise company says the polar bear attacked a guard during a tour of the arctic. the company says another guard then shot and killed the bear in self-defense. the injured guard was air lifted out with head injuries and is in stable condition. this happened on norway's remote northern island known as the realm of the polar bear. it's halfway between norway and the north pole. joining me now to discuss, wildlife expert jeff corwyn. what's your reaction to this? >> well, fredricka, it's incredibly tragic. what really is most disturbing about this is that polar bears, despite their prowess and their great size and strength, their ability to survive in one of the most hostile ecosystems on the planet, they are critically endangered and are slipping towards extinction. when there's only 25,000 polar bears left on the planet, every one matters. >> and we don't know all of the
circumstances of how this happened, just generically that, you know, one guard was attacked and another guard then shot and killed. but so many other questions arise. you know, you're pinpointing on their vulnerability. when you talk about the population of animals that are under distress, you know, talk to me about that, how that species is under distress, whether it's because of the climate or whether it's because of, you know, dwindling food supply and how that might have altered the behavior potentially of this animal. >> yeah, you bring up a lot of interesting points. this is a species that you've just said, accurately so, is under distress. it is being stressed because its environment is changing because of warming seas. the perennial ice that these bears depend upon has all but
disappeared. this is ice that's supposed to be there permanently. a polar bear has the ability to swim 60 miles a day, yet they are drowning in open water because the ancient ice they relied on as a species has gone away. so yes, oftentimes polar bears will be foraging for foods where they normally would not be. but this is polar bear habitat. when you are in this ecosystem as a tourist or as an explorer or a scientist, you have the responsibility to follow the protocols to ensure that you stay safe and you don't interfere with the wild behavior of polar bears. >> and that's at the core of a lot of the angry response online. people saying, wait a minute, the polar bear is in its habitat. tourists come along. their lives are threatened or the guard's life is threatened, then the only alternative is to kill. another question is why not a
tranquilizer if there is that feeling, you know, that the guard or tourist lives might be in danger? >> right. that's an interesting question. why not use a tranquilizer? i think if they were in that desperate situation where life and limb was at stake, they took the most drastic decision one could take. i will tell you it's no easy task using a tranquilizer. sometimes it requires multiple shots to sedate the animal. i have actually worked on filming polar bears in the arctic. it was quite a challenge to work with these remarkable creatures. but to your earlier point, to discuss how critically endangered they are, when i think of polar bears, i think of the ultimate iconic symbol of the arctic, this ecosystem. what really breaks my heart today is we now live in a world where we don't prioritize species as much. our own government isn't
focusing on protecting species like previous administrations. not only are these animals under stress from natural changes, from manmade changes, but also from a department of interior that doesn't embrace their importance like we have in the past. very important creatures. a lot of lessons to learn here. you're in their home, their backyard. respect them and their space. >> jeff corwin, thanks so much for being with us. all right. top stories we're following for you this hour. civil rights icon and georgia congressman john lewis is in the hospital. lewis became ill on a flight to atlanta yesterday according to a local cnn affiliate. his spokeswoman told cnn that he is under routine observation and expected to be released sometime today. a manhunt is under way in new orleans after two suspects opened fire killing three people and wounding several others three miles from the french quarter. police say the suspects approached the victims from behind and started shooting with
a rifle and a handgun before fleeing the scene. one of the seven wounded is in critical conditions. and a mississippi police department has fired an officer who used a stun gun on a handcuffed suspect. authorities say the police officer hit the suspect with his forearm and then later pressed his stun gun into the man's back, shocking him. the suspect was complying with orders during his arrest, and the police chief says stark's actions were an excessive use of force. straight ahead in the newsroom, russia flexing its military might. we'll show you how much of its new fire power is aimed at matching the u.s. connected. r whole family or keep tabs on them. he skipped orientation for the beach? he takes after me. join t-mobile, buy an iphone 8, get an iphone 8 on us.
>> reporter: strategic parody means parody with the u.s. and its nato allies. russia showcasing a submarine nicknamed "the carrier killer," designed to hunt u.s. aircraft carriers. a new stealth frigate and a spy vessel aimed at countering american missile technology. vladimir putin's message to the west is clear. even though russia's military might not be as big and well funded as militaries in the west, it can still be a threat to america and its nato allies. last week russia also showing off new missile technology, including a hypersonic missile the kremlin says can beat american defense systems. all this right after both president trump and vladimir putin discussed working together to prevent a new arms race at their recent summit in helsinki, a point putin reiterated this past week. >> translator: russia and the united states have a stake in that. the whole world has a stake in
that. and not starting an arms race. >> reporter: but while russia may be interested in preventing an arms race, russia also clearly wants to show america and its allies that its forces are stronger and more advanced than at any time since the cold war. fred pleitgen, cnn, st. petersburg, russia. still ahead in the newsroom, some first responders battling the raging carr fire in california are returning home to find that they themselves have become victims of this massive fire. i'll talk to a police chief who lost his home while trying to protect others, next. weather an overall #1 rated, weathers it all. find our most advanced formula exclusively at the home depot. ♪ ♪ keep it comin' love. ♪ keep it comin' love. ♪ don't stop it now, ♪ don't stop it no.
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we've heard the trump administration talk about alternate facts, and that version of reality is front and center in this week's state of the cartoonian. >> it's 2018, but this week to a lot of the president's critics it started to sound a bit like 1984. >> just remember what you're seeing and what you're reading is not what's happening. >> that might be a bit extreme, but what is actually taking place in president trump's version of reality? i mean, we do know for one that there are televisions hooked up that only show one channel. >> your approval rating is soaring. >> in this dystopian or utopian future, the white house press corps would only have friendly faces. >> you looked very strong at the end of that press conference. >> and no poll would ever drop below 100% approval. >> he's the most powerful, most popular republican in the history of the party. >> in this alternate reality, there would be a mcdonald's on
every corner, and every day would be november 8th, 2016. >> we won the electoral college by a lot, 306-223, i believe. >> in this alternate reality, special counsel would have a whole new spelling and even special counsel robert mueller would agree with the president's conclusion. >> a russian hoax. it's a witch hunt. >> but that's not the world in which we live. even the biggest reality tv star cannot totally escape reality. >> i care deeply about the rule of law. >> thanks so much, jake. all right. be sure to tune in tonight for an all new episode of "the 2000s." from the launch of the ipod to the rise of social media, it was a decade marked by the explosion of tech ideas. >> all kinds of things have changed because of the smartphone. so there are new rules. are you allowed to have your phone at the dinner table? should you be looking at your phone on the sidewalk on a busy