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Transcripts for CNN The Lead With Jake Tapper 20240604 21:18:00

District attorney making them into felonies was lawfare in this theory. do you have concerns about republicans doing the same? two democrats isn t that just i i i personally do have concerns that this is as i said earlier, it is going to devolve that we re going to see this on both the left and the right i mean, unfortunately, on both the left and the right, we have we have elected officials that sometimes care more about how much time they get on television, or how much money that they can raise through small-dollar donors because of their salacious. they re there hyperbolic emails. yes and less about governing the country. and this is one form of that. what do you think? do you have any concern about it? no, i have a lot of concern and former president trump is re-elected. i mean, he has already said that he will have revenge and he will do the things he doesn t have respect for the rule of law. it s a huge you have any concern about your party may doing some of the same li

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Transcripts for MSNBC The 11th Hour With Stephanie Ruhle 20240604 04:30:00

A jail cell, perhaps 1600 pennsylvania avenue. but i just don t think that it matters to the voting public anymore. i don t know, josh, we keep sitting around the table, talking about donald trump like he is a winner. the last time he won something, it was a big win, but it was 2016. since 2016, he s lost every single election he s been within a mile of. so, are we getting duped by trump telling us over and over, i am a winner, i am a winner, when the numbers don t bear that out. i don t know if he is going to win this election. i do think that he is clearly the preference within the party, and people who pretend these now are kind of, they are throwing a penny in a well and wishing for a candidate. i do think that the anti trump case, this is trump, he s the guy, it s not an especially affirmative case for joe biden, even though a lot of people hate trump. there s still a lot of people that love him. a lot of people showed up when

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Transcripts for MSNBC The 11th Hour With Stephanie Ruhle 20240604 04:03:00

President to root out so-called voter fraud, so presidential immunity should protect him from any criminal charges. but, here is what he tweeted just a few weeks after the election. quote, 2020 is a long way from over, that was november 25th of that year, when he was doing everything he possibly could to stay in power. and that tweet appears to undercut his newest immunity claim. as the presidential primary season gets underway, donald trump will be the defendant in another case. on tuesday, just one day after the iowa caucuses, the defamation lawsuit filed against trump by e. jean carroll, it goes to trial. she s not seeking $10 million in damages, trump says that he plans to be in court next week. lawyers for e. jean carroll or asking the judge to limit what trump can say if he decides to testify. they point to trump s courtroom rant yesterday at his 300 and

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Transcripts for MSNBC The 11th Hour With Stephanie Ruhle 20240604 04:06:00

Trump friendly judge and a potentially trump friendly jury. it is a very interesting legal strategy for them to employ at this point because what they are attempting to argue is no harm no foul as katie just talked about, they are going to set up a defense that says these documents were already highly classified in a way that they should not have been, and therefore, the fact that donald trump should not be something that results in them being a convicted criminal. the problem with that is what you look at when you see jack smith and the government filing today. what they filed what they wanted to get information around sulfone data from the codefendant in this case, because when they are trying to do is basically say, look, we are going to line up, or all of these documents will be moved, and hidden, and moved, and hidden lucky government was trying to recover them. and that directly undercuts the notion that you believe that having them wasn t a big deal, that you are trying to a

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Transcripts for MSNBC The 11th Hour With Stephanie Ruhle 20240604 04:29:00

Stormy daniels, is that really going to take trump out no matter how it goes? he will be found guilty of his crimes, but do you gamble and take that one first? the least compelling of all of them. i think that they re all solidly on for, legs but i think it is the least compelling of all of them. so do you gamble and take that one? i would probably say no. i would say if i am alvin bragg, i would do a little dog here and not go on that one. the most important thing is that you get a case that was before the election. but do you do that and lose? i m going to throw that out to you, stephanie. i don t know that it matters. i think that the people are going to vote the way they are going to vote, in their brains, most democrats have probably convicted donald trump already, independents would care less of republicans think he s innocent. i think it might matter for where he governs from, perhaps

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