Happened. It seems dubious that the Russian Military, in other words, would want to take down a major passenger plane. Certainly with not the intent of taking it down. Again, we simply dont know who brought this down. Im also here with lieu dtenant colonel rick francona. Just in terms of kants, we have not seen separatists heretofor, they have brought down at least one transport plane, but they were not flying at 33,000 feet. Yeah, this would require, as we were talking about, a more sophisticated system. Talking about, you know, hitting it inadvertently, it would be very difficult for that to happen. Generally once youre locked onto the target, it goes to that target. And if it veers off that target and is no longer being guided, they selfdestruct. But when youre targeting a plane at that altitude, are you
clear on exactly what kind of a plane it is . No, its a return on your radar. Right. It will be a certain size, you can estimate the size of the aircraft. You may have other sensors
amount of territory, my guess is it came undone at altitude, and thankfully in this kind of tragedy, death was very quickly. was quick. 295 people on board. and just in that image, we saw a guide book, a lonely planet guide book for bali, the idea you brought up, richard, these are people headed on vacation. these are people probably with their families going on vacation to bali, to other places. absolutely no question in my mind. at this time of the year, that plane is full of holiday makers on their way to do lifelong holidays. now i m sorry, i m told we re getting some more information from jim sciutto. jim, what are you hearing? anderson, i ve just been told by the ukrainian foreign ministry that it is their belief that this plane was taken down by a russian-made buk missile system that you have mentioned
missco to a destination in western europe. you re looking at a still photo there. we re looking at live information on various mobile devices. who makes that decision? is it individual airlines who then make the decision, okay, we re no longer going to fly, or is there an international body? no international body. i mean, they might ban it completely, yes. they could in that situation. but normally it would be the airline. it would be the regulator. so the european regulator, the national regulatoregulator, the. i would imagine within the hour we re going to start seeing total regulatory bans. and the question is, why wasn t that done sooner given the concern richard was hearing from a number of pilots for some time. our barbara starr is with us. barbara, what are you hearing? anderson, this is rapidly shaping up tore a security crisis across europe. what i am hearing is that both military services and intelligence services across
they ignored that, pushed ahead. people have said that public fissure is for show, that they re really secretly still being run. i think it s clear now that the ukrainian military is on the advance. the open at the same time statd dismay, they re not getting what they expected out of moscow. and that s really going to be key now. do they look to russian officials to move in and investigation, or there s no real investigation actually happening. we re in a very violent civil war at this point, anderson. i want to go to peter goelz with the national transportation safety board, a cnn aviation analyst. peter, obviously, an extremely complicated if, in fact, separatists are preventing ukrainian authorities which seem to make sense, how would this be investigated? i think that that s a great question. iko is the obvious organization, the international civil aviation
and he says they are all concerned and scared at what they know have been happening. i see in the last couple of moments transarrow, the russian airline, says it will no longer fly over ukrainian. lufthansa saying it will no longer fly over ukraine. that might be closing the stable door after the horse is bolted. it s clearly been an issue for some time. it of course raises the question now and a question that will be asked by family members of those on board this plane is why wasn t that done sooner? why were planes continuing to fly over such a troubled region, considering that two planes, and one, as senator mccain was pointing out, had been shot down already at 21,000 feet. that s exactly the point. and we know that the faa had a prohibition against flying over crimea and the black sea for u.s. carriers. so there s no doubt that this was a known rick of fsk of flyi this eastern part. it shouldn t have been as big a problem as it has been. but we re looking at the most