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Tend to make a deal. not ever pretty or early but they tend to make deals in the town. i tend to think thats where its headed but thats less based on what were seeing on the ground and more based on if you look at the historical pattern of how the big intractable things are addressed. it tends to be at the last minute. kind of in a deal no ones particularly happy with. i dont know if were headed there but my gut says we probably are. >> of course, the white house thinks they have got the polling...

Priorities that i think the american people share. >> rates, can there be a deal done with the rates not going up? >> no. im an appropriator for a long time in the congress. we used cough to have an expres. its not the price. its the money. this is not to be punitive on the people who make over $250,000. its just to be fair to the entire country. you need that additional revenue in order to reduce the deficit and continue to make investments in growth. >> if speaker boehner says that, you know, ...

Four years are going to get. everything in obamacare that obama didnt want you to focus on or think about, the 90% of his trillion-dollar tax increase was pushed over till after he got himself safely re-elected. all those regulations youre now hearing about, okay, those all hit after the election. weve got four bad years of regulation taxes. he wants to add higher taxes to that. tea party 2 is going to dwarf tea party 1 if obama pushes us off the cliff. >> so basically, jon, what grover norquist...

That is as much the president likes golf as much as an effort to say, here i am with the great dealmaker, the reasonable guy that everybody likes, regardless of whether clintons actually giving him any advice on this although im sure he is. >> if you look back to the health care debate obama tried to appear reasonable last time and that didnt work well for him. what hes doing now is all the things he didnt do last time. starting with the unreasonable position, with what he wants rather than what...

And we need to find it quickly. >> governor, are they going to be able to find that common ground quickly? >> yeah, i think they are. you know i have to laugh. in the first term, the president was criticized by his base for giving in too quickly or too easily. this is a negotiation. and in the negotiation, you dont put on the table initially where you want to wind up. you put out whats your bargaining position and both sides have to understand that. but what i do think is important, is both side...

So they are really talking about two different things right now. not even close. as we know, were only a month away from the critical year end deadline. >> michael, lets talk about the presidents trip to pennsylvania today where you are. why this toy company in suburban philly and why even bother traveling? would he have been better served to stay behind closed doors in d.c. to continue negotiations with congressional leaders? >> these folks make tinker toys and lincoln logs. i bet you remember ...

Numbers turn south, the question is whos going to be blamed for this. a lot of what the presidents doing now is making sure that hes not the one whos going to be blamed, that it will be the republicans. that, in turn, puts him in a better bargaining position. >> now, victoria, in 2004 president obama, after his re-election, said he earned political capital. but he wasnt able to accomplish some of his biggest second-term goals. let me show you what mr. bush had to say at that point. >> i earned c...

Would democrats consider putting any part of the presidents signature health care legislation on the table to negotiate? >> no. its just not going to happen. i mean you remember last year, democrats wouldnt -- refused to budge on this issue. theyre not going to do it again. president obamas out there, all campaigns saying health care is law now. now that hes in office again for a second term, theres no way this happens. it didnt happen last time. it wont happen this time. >> so then, steve, i th...

Raising them on the rich, then that becomes an easier bargaining position in some ways for both parties. but if were talking negotiations where the end is nowhere in sight for months and months, no. wed be talking a recession. >> rana, the last thing any of us want is negotiations where theres no end in sight. we shall see. karen finney, rana, thank you for joining me tonight. coming up, obama care faces one more hurdle. the heap of republican governors who want to stop it. and speaking of r...

Taxes are now up. lets talk about lowering them on the middle class as opposed to having the conversation about raising them on the rich, then that becomes an easier bargaining position in some ways for both parties. but if were talking negotiations where the end is nowhere in sight for months and months, no. wed be talking a recession. >> rana, the last thing any of us want is negotiations where theres no end in sight. we shall see. karen finney, rana, thank you for joining me tonight. coming...