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Bite them on the policy side when this is actually implemented and a lot of people are affected by it, including a lot of their roervoters and tha what the cbo talks about so it will be interesting to see after this meeting if hes able to have some sort of substantive conversation with these senators and address the real issues, the real problems that they have with this. i think theyre seeing the ro problems with the bill. >> julian is also with us. when you look at the bill and you look at jus...

Statement for public release. >> i can tell you that leadership from the state department, d.o.d., dni, the cia, as well as members of the administration within this building were part of that process from the very beginning, and fully aware. >> can you give us a time line from the very beginning, was that a yesterday -- >> im not going to walk through the detailed process of a time line on how that was released for intelligence purposes. >> and on health care, you just said you accept or find v...

Of that could be people who choose not to get health insurance. >> well, look, i think lets just look at a couple ways. first of all, lets stipulate that nobody can predict the future and the f its not 22 million, if its 18 million or 15 million, it really doesnt matter. conclusions no different. theres a lot of people that are going to lose coverage. most of the people that lose coverage in this bill lose it because they lose medicaid and medicaid goes away. so these are low income people, they...

The cbo score that they pointed out was that it would cut deficits by $300 billion and cut taxes. i think those are good things and i think when they focus on the budget side, thats probably a good thing and i think you had a second part. >> syria. the warning to syria, whats your message to the international community, and also to the american people who may be concerned when they read a headline like that, that theyre thinking we may be hurdling towards a situation that involves the u.s. in th...

Very likely that that may harden the positions of susan collins, dean heller, who are in the no column right now as well, and likely to not be persuaded by those kinds of changes to the bill. so this is the problem that mitch mcconnell, as he says, the discussion goes on, and we are continuing the discussion, this is the problem he finds himself in. its a push and pull with very, very little room for error because he can only afford to let two votes go. >> but does he have some wiggle room becau...

>> two health care questions. okay, so you accept the budgetary calculations of the cbo but not the projections on how many people would be insured. what about their projections on what would happen to premiums and deductibles? is that something you accept or not? >> i mean, i think they said yesterday that the premiums would go down roughly 30% by 2020. that seems based on what weve done internally, pretty consistent. >> they also said that for people of certain incomes, they would go way up. d...

Rid of those tax increases. i think theyll help the economy a lot and i think theyll help the insurance market, but i just wanted to go back to this main point because i think its the central point of disagreement. this plan republicans are talking about will reduce the cost of health care because its going to increase the competition and increase the amount of choice that patients have in terms of buying their care. one of the biggest problems ive had with obamacare is it has all these essentia...

Continuing to do, day in, day out. thats the reason the president has asked members of the senate to come here today so that we -- they can talk through that, so they can figure out the best way the move the ball forward. thats the goal of the meeting this afternoon and thats the goal of the administration. in terms of the cbo score, as we said yesterday, the cbo is a budget office. and while it does very well at times predicting things on budget whether its revenue or spending, i dont think it ...

To pay out-of-pocket, more for deductibles or copays. what would you do or what would you advise these senators do to make this bill more palatable? >> well, part of the problem, by the way, with obamacare is that people are actually paying higher premiums and higher deductibles, so youre essentially under obamacare paying more money for less insurance so thats been a catastrophe and i have to say that i think one of the things thats misleading about this cbo score is it assumes were going to be...

Legislation, not to block it. and i think its not simply an issue of being complicated. there are fundamental divisions among republicans and certainly with democrats about the effects of this legislation, and in seven days, those dont go away. so, hes going to try to find ways to buy votes or to pressure people into voting, but it will be very difficult because of that cbo report and what this bill will do. >> and is it just because its health care, specifically, and how complex the health care...