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The only way to do that is to talk to the central figure in this story. thats jerry sandusky. and when there is corroborating evidence, which there is for much of what jerry says with regard to penn state and joe paternos lack of culpability, i will use that to try to make the case it was a rush to judgment. >> lets look at this apparent evidence. >> you dont remember snapping towels yourself, do you? >> im not actually sure. i would have been more inclined to do slap boxing or something like th...

Evidence, which there is for much of what jerry says with regard to penn state and joe paternos lack of culpability, i will use that to try to make the case it was a rush to judgment. >> lets look at this apparent evidence. >> you dont remember snapping towels yourself, do you? >> im not actually sure. i would have been more inclined to do slap boxing or something like that. im not sure. he always, no matter what we did, hed always get the last lick in, the last smack. and then i would chase him...

When he testified he walked in on a sexually charged conduct between sandusky and a boy abused back in 2001. heres what sandusky said happened between himself and the boy. >> you dont remember slapping towels yourself, do you? >> i would have been more of a slap-off thing, im not sure. then i remember him always, no matter what, he would always get the last lick in, okay? he would get the last smack and then i would chase him, like, and i ran him into a wall. >> the filmmaker, john ziegler, says...

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