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The only way to do that is to talk to the central figure in this story. thats jerry sandusky. and when there is corroborating evidence, which there is for much of what jerry says with regard to penn state and joe paternos lack of culpability, i will use that to try to make the case it was a rush to judgment. >> lets look at this apparent evidence. >> you dont remember snapping towels yourself, do you? >> im not actually sure. i would have been more inclined to do slap boxing or something like th...

Evidence, which there is for much of what jerry says with regard to penn state and joe paternos lack of culpability, i will use that to try to make the case it was a rush to judgment. >> lets look at this apparent evidence. >> you dont remember snapping towels yourself, do you? >> im not actually sure. i would have been more inclined to do slap boxing or something like that. im not sure. he always, no matter what we did, hed always get the last lick in, the last smack. and then i would chase him...

Search for attention either from sandusky or ziegler. the fact of the matter there was a jury of sanduskys peers that convicted him of those crimes. to go back and rehatch this, just adds insult to injury to the victims. >> no one has really had an opportunity to hear from jerry sandusky and some of the -- some of what he says in the interviews and reading the transcript is just bizarre. its so odd, i had play a clip of zeiglers conversation with jerry sandusky. they talk about the shower incide...