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Wouldnt be trying to regulate the hell out of it. we would pretty much just leave it alone. >> well, you would think. but unfortunately, like we talked about early in the program, if we parameterize the models to produce large amounts of heat in the 21st century, then were going to say its all bad and were going to try to, if you will, de-techonologize. >> when did this all start? >> it started in the late 1970s, when a group of folks that i know decided that they could -- they wanted nuclear po...

They are showing the same things. and the same thing is a lot different than this thing. however, we need to call a special council. >> special council. >> yes. because one model works. know what it is? its the russian model. >> let me get this right. so all the government models are like this. >> yeah. >> the russian models like this. >> yeah. the russian model has the least warming in it. >> the russian model has the least warming, and the russian model pretty much follows reality. >> yeah. >>...

For the climate conference in copenhagen that was supposed to produce another global warming. mark: so youre telling us that we have a massive bit of public policy that has enormous effect on society thats built on -- ill use my words, phony models. >> built on a house of cards. models really dont work. if i could really be arcane, i could explain the mechanism as to why they dont work. mark: as long as i understand it. >> the models systematically predict that as you go up in the atmosphere in ...

. mark: dr. patrick michaels, why does the media do such a lousy job in reporting basic information like youre explaining to us right now? >> well, the end of the world fell, look at the ratings for the weather channel every time there is even a modest hurricane, and if you are predicting and projecting global weather and climate ark geddon, people are going to tune in, and even if it doesnt happen, the way its supposed to, well, you dont have to report that, do you? you dont have to report that...

Causation, but gee -- mark: but i want to ask you about causation. >> sure. mark: have you 31 governments. >> the 31 different models. >> 31 different models. multiple governments. >> right. mark: fudging the numbers? >> not fudging them parameterizing. mark: you used the word fudging. does our epa do that? does nasa do that? who does that for us? >> good question, mark, because the epa was told by the supreme court in 2007 that if it found the carbon dioxide endangered human health and welfare,...

Envy of the world. if science is developing economies, and i believe it is, we were doing really, really well. now, when the government takes it over, the government gets what it wants and the government can give out money to basically only study the global warming via climate models. do not take a look at climate history and to see what that really tells us, and then the government can have the policies that it wants. because, do you expect, do you really expect scientists who have been paid fo...

Would be so beneficial, that we wouldnt be trying to regulate the hell out of it, we would pretty much just leave it alone. >> you would think, but unfortunately, like we talked about early in the program, if we parameterize the models to produce large amounts of heat in the 21st century, then were going to say its all bad and were going to try, to if you will, detech nolgize. mark: when did all this start, the prob ganda, the fake stuff. >> it started in the late 1970s when a group of folks the...

Envy of the world. if science is developing economies, and i believe it is, we were doing really, really well. now, when the government takes it over, the government gets what it wants and the government can give out money to basically only study the global warming via climate models. do not take a look at climate history and to see what that really tells us, and then the government can have the policies that it wants. because, do you expect, do you really expect scientists who have been paid fo...

Those models systematically are not working, you can take down the endangerment finding, and that would be the basis for all those policies that came out of the obama administration. mark: which would mean you dont get to regulate -- >> absolutely. mark: -- carbon dioxide. >> absolutely, the endangerment finding is the heart of the matter. to give you an idea how gung ho the obama administration was on this issue. if you listen to his first inaugural speech, january 20, 2009, its second substant...

And why do they all go the same direction, up? >> because, they what are is called parameterized. theyre all parameterized, can i translate parameterized in english? fudge. they dont get the right answer, dont know the right answer for certain phenomena, so we essentially put in code steps that give us what we think it should be. and systematic error that was made was the models were tuned, as it said. tuned. tuned to simulate the warming of the early 20th century. began in 1910, ended in 1945, ...