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Causation, but gee -- mark: but i want to ask you about causation. >> sure. mark: have you 31 governments. >> the 31 different models. >> 31 different models. multiple governments. >> right. mark: fudging the numbers? >> not fudging them parameterizing. mark: you used the word fudging. does our epa do that? does nasa do that? who does that for us? >> good question, mark, because the epa was told by the supreme court in 2007 that if it found the carbon dioxide endangered human health and welfare,...

Those models systematically are not working, you can take down the endangerment finding, and that would be the basis for all those policies that came out of the obama administration. mark: which would mean you dont get to regulate -- >> absolutely. mark: -- carbon dioxide. >> absolutely, the endangerment finding is the heart of the matter. to give you an idea how gung ho the obama administration was on this issue. if you listen to his first inaugural speech, january 20, 2009, its second substant...

31 of them, wrong. and why do they all go the same direction, up? >> because, they what are is called parameterized. theyre all parameterized, can i translate parameterized in english? fudge. they dont get the right answer, dont know the right answer for certain phenomena, so we essentially put in code steps that give us what we think it should be. and systematic error that was made was the models were tuned, as it said. tuned. tuned to simulate the warming of the early 20th century. began in 19...

They behave in concert. theyre showing the same thing, and the same thing is a lot different than this thing. however, we need to call the special counsel. mark: special counsel? >> yes, because one model works. you know what it is? its the russian model. mark: let me get this straight. so all the government models are like this? >> yeah. mark: the russian model like this. >> yeah. the russian model has the least warming in it. mark: the russian model has the least warming and pretty much follow...

Sensitive, and so thats why when you get to the late 20th century, all of a sudden theyre warming up like crazy and the reality is down here. it was guaranteed to happen. this was revealed in science magazine in late 2016, and there was a paper published by a french climate modeler called the art and science of climate model tuning. and in it, he speaks of parameterizing. we could say fudging, the models to give, his words, an anticipated acceptable range of results. so its the scientist, not th...

Would be so beneficial, that we wouldnt be trying to regulate the hell out of it, we would pretty much just leave it alone. >> you would think, but unfortunately, like we talked about early in the program, if we parameterize the models to produce large amounts of heat in the 21st century, then were going to say its all bad and were going to try, to if you will, detech nolgize. mark: when did all this start, the prob ganda, the fake stuff. >> it started in the late 1970s when a group of folks the...

208 parts per million. if it is that sensitive to 18ppm change in co2 we wouldnt be talking about this right now and wed be sweating bullets. >> so what youre saying is man made carbon dioxide the last century could not have produced -- >> early 20th century. mark: could not have produced this heat. so what did? do we know? >> no. and three most important words in life may not be i love you. it may be i dont know. i dont think anybody really knows what kicked off that warming. theres lots of the...

They behave in concert. theyre showing the same thing, and the same thing is a lot different than this thing. however, we need to call the special counsel. mark: special counsel? >> yes, because one model works. you know what it is? its the russian model. mark: let me get this straight. so all the government models are like this? >> yeah. mark: the russian model like this. >> yeah. the russian model has the least warming in it. mark: the russian model has the least warming and pretty much follow...

The vertical distribution of temperature determines precipitation, and guess what? almost all the atmospheric moisture that we have around us today in the humid washington, d.c., that comes from the tropics. so if you get that vertical motion wrong, down there, you get all the subsequent variables wrong. its a fantastic systematic error, and again, that along with the difference between the surface temperatures are rather the lower atmospheric temperatures than whats being observed, thats suffic...

We made the models too sensitive, and so thats why when you get to the late 20th century, all of a sudden theyre warming up like crazy and the reality is down here. it was guaranteed to happen. this was revealed in science magazine in late 2016, and there was a paper published by a french climate modeler called the art and science of climate model tuning. and in it, he speaks of parameterizing. we could say fudging, the models to give, his words, an anticipated acceptable range of results. so it...