who served for their manyeb years,od first associate deputy attorney general thenrs a deputy assistance attorney general. then special assistant to the attorney general, thenal chief of staff to theor attorneyne general, my view y generalattorne edthis department ispart destroying america, the 2024 election, violating every norm, every tradition. er. everything it inherited. it has criminalized politics, and i want to say c this, if we don t break the back of the departmentwant ofe justice. i will explainback that in a moment, it will destroy thisin country, and we won t be able to clawstro our way back, this is not hyperbole. i m not trying to be provocative. i don t need to be, we ll start. cnn. exclusive special counsel prosecutors question witnesses about chaotic oval office meeting after trump lost the 2020 election. multiple sources told cnn, stick with me, cnn, former trump campaign official cooperating in the 2020 election interference probe. sources familiar with the
welcome back, david shown david shown. obama biden the rest of them, the media. come out and say, well, we can t have this information and misinformation out there and so forth, and so on. which is reminiscent to me very fascistic and marxist regime that s ever existed. who decides what s disinformation and misinformation isn t the first amendment there to say have at it. let the american people figure it out. isn t freedom supposed to be the paramount issue here? you ve hit the bedrock principle and that doesn t surprise me coming from you. um absolutely. we can have government deciding what s disinformation what they think the american people shouldn t be allowed to hear and make up their minds about you know, this has been recognized the bedrock principle. from time in memorial but specifically 1919. united states versus abrams. just as holmes talked about the free trade in ideas and then in
to silence their opposition. you ve been around a little while, david. so have i. what do you make of that? well there s so many aspects to this that are troubling, but first point i want to make is your right is trump appointed judge dowdy i think he was. it s also accurate to say that he was confirmed by a vote of 98 to 0, which is pretty extraordinary, um, is a bright guy, but i think one of the beauties of this 155 page memorandum decision and support of the preliminary injunction. is the first part that is the part emphasizing the value we place the highest value we place in this country and our system. on the first amendment, he quotes from scholars from political figures and so on to really emphasized why this is our highest value. you know, i will never see me without one of these and one form another constitution, united states and the first amendment is always highlighted in it. it really is. it s an important point that all of our many of our freedoms flow. from so i think
of that? first of all, i think your monologue was extraordinarily powerful and it was not over the top. frankly you were right on. it s a very dangerous situation that we face with these kinds of leaks. and so on. listen you emphasize the rate of a defendant to a public trial. we all should believe in that. but we can t have selective leaking in the case. in florida, for example, the government has filed in the court approved and unopposed protective order that limits the information the public can have extraordinarily, but also limits. even the defendant s access to information limited to only looking at documents, non classified documents. in front of his lawyers, and the presence of his lawyers can t make any copies and so on. and so, in contrast to that we see information selectively leaked over and over and over again, as you pointed out as capably as i ve ever seen done, and you know, i have to say, david, sean, i wouldn t let that pass away with that judge. i would
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