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to how nimble and unusual a cranium fighting forces are. i wonder if you could tell me a bit more about your, well what your expectations going in and what you saw in what how that squared with expectations. >> everyone expected this war, as a defense minister told us, a war between a small soviet army in a big soviet army. what we didn't realize was that over the last eight ears, since 2014, ukrainians have completely remade their army and it's to do with waves of volunteers, people from the tech industry, people who worked in silicon valley and came home, young people entering the army. and they have completely transformed it in all kinds of odd ways. it doesn't work the way our army works. we went, for example, to a drone workshop. the drone workshop is a room kind of the size of this one with tables, and on the tables there is bits of glue and wire. 3d printer in the corner, and what would look like styrofoam paper airplanes, and they attach munitions to them and
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excerpted that passage because it's such a testimony to how nimble and unusual the ukrainian fighting forces are. i wonder if you could tell me a bit more about your, well what your expectations going in and what you saw in what how that squared with expectations. >> everyone expected this war, as a defense minister told us, a war between a small soviet army and a big soviet army. what we didn't realize was that over the last eight ears, since 2014, ukrainians have completely remade their army and it's to do with waves of volunteers, people from the tech industry, people who worked in silicon valley and came home, young people entering the army. and they have completely transformed it in all kinds of odd ways. it doesn't work the way our army works. we went, for example, to a drone workshop. the drone workshop is a room kind of the size of this one with tables, and on the tables there is bits of glue and wire. 3d printer in the corner, and what would look like styrofoam paper airplanes, and they attach munitions to them and send them over the border. >> and one point they're saying
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>> so everybody expected this war as the defense minister said to us to be a war between a big soviet army and small soviet army. and what we didn't realize over the last eight years since 2014 ukrainians have completely remade their army and to deal with leads of volunteers, young people entering the army and they've completely transformed it in completely odd ways. so it doesn't work the way our army works. we went, for example, to a drone workshop. a drone workshop is a room kind of the size of this one with tables, and on the tables there's bits of glue and wire and a 3-d printer and what literally look like styrofoam airplanes. >> at some point they said these drones are used for wedding ceremonies. >> they've remade them into weapons, and that's of course at the low end of what they do.
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getting hit by ukraine's artillery. the soldiers run away. a wounded comrade tries to crawl to safety. in all these places, drones are critical to detect and to destroy the enemy. nipro one has its own drone workshop where nato issue grenades are sawed in half to be carried on drones. they can manufacture drones in 20 minutes and have proven effective in the conflict. drone operator is one of the most dangerous jobs, the boss says. as soon as they operate a drone operator, they use all kinds of weaponry, artillery, tanks. we have a high rate of casualties among drone pilots. in the forest, ruslan's mission is now over. but he sees a long battle ahead in a contest of wits and brute force. >> mostly last month, our army, but last two weeks maybe we stop and russians making
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workshop where grenades are sawed in half to be carry order drones. and the manufacture in 20 minutes and proven very effective in the conflict. drone operator is one of the most dangerous jobs the boss says. as soon as they locate a drone operator, they use all kinds of weaponry and tanks, there is a high rate of casualties. in the forest, the mission is now over. but he sees a long battle ahead in a contest of wits and brute force. >> last few weekweeks, maybe wep and russians making counterattack. >> reporter: and all the times drones will shape the way as more changes. fred pleitgen, ukraine. and taliban in pakistan
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the few people remaining, those too poor or too old to flee. i asked valentina if it's not too dangerous to stay here. yes, it is dangerous, she says, but what can we do? of course it's dangerous, but we endure. sometimes we hide, but now it's too cold in the basements. the russians have massively beefed up their forces around kreminna. they believe they have to prevent the ukrainians breaking through here to sustain their own offenses against ba mat. russian armor getting hit by ukraine's artillery. a wounded comrade tries to crawl to safety. in all these places, drones are critical to detect and to destroy the enemy. dnipro one has its own drone workshop where nato grenades are sawed in half to be carried on
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