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congress. would this really help or a ploy for political mileage? and president biden will have to counter this dismal sal by barack obama in 2008. >> were arguing over a gimmick to seau half a tank of gasp. if so everyone in washington can pat themselves on the back. let me tell you something. this isnt an idea designed to get you through the summer. its an idea designed to get them through an election. >> phil mattingly joins us at the white house. this is another effort by president...

The federal level right now. we were discussing this deal that took a long time to get to, and yet youre in a state that ranks number one in gun ownership. the governor said new gun regular laegss are not the answer. hes responded to previous shootings by loosening restrictions. what nak maiks you think this is going to go anywhere? >> hopefully just the outpouring of support, i think the support for this legislation and certainly all of our mayors are et ging support for colting up with solutio...

2012 was an occasion for major gun controls. after parkland, florida, these 14 states passed it. so it would enhance red flag laws in these places. it would give funding to similar programs in states that dont have them. so it would do a lot. would it do everything that gun control advocates the, no. its narrow. thats the way it looks like its going to get passed. >> but it could make a difference. theres still a massive loophole. so many people are in support of universal background checks. we ...

Trumps orbit who is trying to have it both ways. hes trying to thread the n needle. we know in certain instances, pat cipollone did the right thing. when donald trump was try ing t install a loyalist to take over d oorks j, cipollone stood on the right side of that. he said im knot going to stand for that. at the psalm time, he doesnt want to put himself out there and alienate any of his friends. we dont have sinners and saints here. there are shades of gray. >> tomorrow well hear from former do...