party spoiler. there are democrats who say this is all about a spoiler that gives the election to trump if it s biden vs. trump. what do you say to that, to that spoiler argument? couple things number one criticized right and the left we are about the right place. criticisms getting louder which means we are being taken more seriously by traditional parties that have not served what most americans americans want. and if the parties come to their senses movie toward the center which is how things have historically gotten done in this country we will stand down. bret: looked back at the 92 election. ross perot. 19% of the vote. said basically, according to the vote that the exit polling showed that there would be an even split requesting to clinton
would be just weeks away from his 82nd birthday. should he win a second term. the question is do voters want him in charge for another four years, senior political analyst ron brownstein weighed in with some of the obstacles. president biden will face serious what we saw in 2022 was unprecedented in the history of exit polling, there was historically large number of voters who said they were unhappy with the way the economy was going and also in historically large number of voters who said they disapproved of biden s performance who voted for democrats anyway, because they viewed the republican alternative at that point is too extreme, and that is a dynamic that kind of keeps them in the game, even though his approval rating is at a level that historically you would say would be would be difficult. for an incumbent president. i mean, they believe that they have a formula that will allow them to improve a few points. among those swing voters working class swing voters in those key rust
and i do think that that s part of the reality that this campaign is gonna be fought on it. there s no expectation among biden s advisers that suddenly he will become extraordinarily popular or suddenly, his age is not going to be a factor. that s part of it, and they re just hoping that voters will factor that in along with us. other things, especially who he is running against, as they make a decision about who they re going to vote for in the presidential alex, go ahead what abby was saying. you know obama s approval rating as the incumbent president did not go back over 50. until september of 2012 like right before the election. he was under 50 for most of the of the election period. but as abby said, what we saw in 2022 was unprecedented in the history of exit polling, there was historically large number of voters who said they were unhappy with the way the economy was going, and also in historically large number of voters who said they disapproved of biden s performance who voted
anyway, because they view the alternative as an acceptable to a degree that we have never seen before in exit polling, and that is kind of the challenge that republicans are rolling toward in 2024. people are dissatisfied with things the way things are going in the country. but there are a lot of voters who believe that putting trump back in the white house is kind of an existential risk to american democracy. and the way to desantis has chosen to try to beat him. mhm by trying to squeak. you know, i have this image in my head of the republican race being this big interstate highway, you have trump rumbling down the right lane at 70 miles an hour, huge matt mack truck and then you ve got like a center right lane center lane, a center left lane. that really isn t that crowded and ron desantis is trying to pass him on the right shoulder like six inches before the guardrail. and it kind of raises the question. i think part of the problem he s having. you saw that donor in florida that met
going to be on the top of th ballot, not joe biden, not donald trump, people are going to vote and that means a crazy wonderful turnout for those wh believe that a woman has a right to control her own body. so basil, what do democrats need to do in order to capitalize on that moment? not only do they have the vote up what they want to protect abortion rights. you look at the exit polling from the midterm elections susan is absolutely right. abortion was number one issue, somewhat argue that despite th fact that republicans that hav a poor showing, and a poor turnout from the election, the democrats could ve done more when it came to kind o capitalizing on the abortion issue. how do they keep that momentum going now through th presidential election? do they make abortion th number one issue well they can make it a top issue, if i go back to tim scott s point that he wa trying to make in that interview, when he s talking about six and five and seven