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We gave them iraq with the second-largest oil reserves in the world. theyre taking over iraq as you speak to me this morning, so we gave them one of the best deals ever made and, by the way, theyre taking that money now and theyre giving it to russia and others where theyre buying armaments which nobody ever reports. >> do you stick by the idea that the middle east would be more stable today with saddam hussein and ga ka if i gadhafi in power? >> 100%. 100%. theres not even -- is there even a do...

You were talking about, look, we could get rid of saddam hussein but that destabilized an entire region. we could get rid of gadhafi, but that created a vacuum for isis and we could get rid of assad tomorrow but that would create another political vacuum. let me ask you this -- would the middle east be more stable today with saddam, gadhafi, and assad all sort of strong men in charge? >> well, the answer is all three of those guys are terrible dictators and the goal is through a democratic proce...