that argument to the jury. believe me, they re going to point out, they ll use use of force experts or both sides, but the state will use them to say this choke hold is something he was trained in and he knew that it was deadly. danny, it is so interesting. there are a couple of different things going on here that you ve brought out, that you say will make a big difference. one is the fact that strangers, as you said, were helping. the george floyd case, of course,telling the cops to stop, to get up. other instances, people say, you re killing him. in this case, you start with strangers helping. there will be a sliding scale, won t there? if he had held him in a choke hold for three or four minutes, it s far different than if they proved it was 15 minutes. again, that just, again, is excessive. again, it all comes down to what the jury ends up thinking. but talk about these two elements that you ve already brought up and how important
homeland security live in a bit. plus, a debt ceiling meeting between president biden and top congressional leaders is postponed. what that means for the looming debt crisis. good morning. welcome to morning joe. with us this morning, the host of way too early, politico s jonathan lemire. special correspondent for bbc news, katty kay. associate editor of the washington post, eugene robinson. the host of msnbc s inside with jen psaki, jen psaki. she is a former white house press secretary. joe, let s go back to the comments that donald trump made at the town hall about the mar-a-lago documents, invoinvok inaccuracy, the presidential records act and again saying, quote, i took what i took. he says, i took the classified documents with me to mar-a-lago. maybe i showed them to some people. i don t remember. but he says, i certainly had the right to. laying out a trail here, as jack smith and others prosecute this case about classified documents.
person. if they say at minute 14 that he was still posing a threat, he was still flailing, i don t know that that s reasonable based on what i m seeing in the video, but if they testify to that under oath, and they re strangers, they have no interest in helping out this defendant, that s going to make a big difference. even though at the outlet, 15 minutes seems like a long time. you can imagine if someone poses a threat that long. by the way, if i m defending this case, i dovetail that into the argument of, where was the nypd in 15 minutes? what is going on in new york city that someone has to subdue a dangerous suspect or dangerous person for 15 minutes without the help of the nypd? that s the strategy i would use to use that to judo move that, take the strength and make it a weakness if i can. you re right, this case has resonated with new yorkers. it speaks to the changes in the city and the subway coming out of the pandemic, the rise of seemingly visible mental illness, as well
republicans ramp up criticism of the biden administration. title 42 lifted a few hours ago. a lot to talk to secretary mayorkas about. plus, a 24-year-old marine is expected to face charges today in the wake of a new york city subway choke hold death. we ll get legal analysis of the case. also, a debt ceiling meeting between president biden and congressional leaders is postponed. we ll have the latest on where those talks stand this morning as the clock continues to tick. you re watching morning joe on a beautiful friday morning. we re coming right back.
you have a trip planned to new hampshire. someone goes to new hampshire after iowa and south carolina, eyebrows are often raised. we want to talk about the purpose of your trip. we saw donald trump was in new hampshire just the other day. we also know, frankly, the state of new hampshire is pretty mad at president biden because of how he proposed changing the primary calendar. talk to us about what your message will be in the grand state. i m going to make the case for president biden s re-election, as i have been making the case for the president this morning. the reality is, we can t let trump and desantis have all the oxygen in the 2023 primary. i believe the president should campaign in the primary everywhere he campaigned in 2020. it seemed to work out for him then. make the case now. it would be a mistake, as you know, new hampshire gets all the media attention, it d be a mistake not to campaign, not to make the case to voters this year. i m honored to be invited to the