yeah. there he goes again. but i would submit that the whistle-blower at this point is entirely irrelevant. this would be like if i could draw an analogy if i had a neighbor who i knew to be a convicted felon and yet i witnessed that this neighbor had stored in his garage a stockpile of firearms and i called the police and gave an anonymous tip about that fact, and then the police came out and investigated and found that this convicted felon did in fact have a stockpile of firearms, the fact that i was the initial tipster would be completely irrelevant because the police upon their investigation did find this convicted felon in possession of the firearms. it s no different here. because what the whistle-blower reported has essentially been corroborated in every meaningful way, who he is and what he said initially and how he said it is irrelevant. as you are all nodding. very well said, greg. thank you all very much.
the law protects the whistle-blower. i want maximum protection for whistle-blowers. greg, look. trump is not letting up with his demand to out the whistle-blower, reveal the person s identity. do you think he is going to end up getting what he wants? i m not sure if he will or not. i would submit he is completely wrong about all of this. there is no evidence whatsoever that the whistle-blower has given any kind of false evidence or has been wrong about what has been reported. in fact, the evidence suggests that virtually everything the whistle-blower initially reported has been corroborated. at this point the identity of the whistle-blower is entirely irrelevant. and so getting testimony from the whistle-blower just will add nothing to this investigation. it s just, again, the president s way of attacking those who are on the other side of him whether fbi agents,
taylor, the top american diplomat to ukraine, testified that he sent to pompeo, right? bill taylor said, i was in john bolten said send a cable to pompeo with all of your concerns about the aid to ukraine being held up. taylor testified he did it and he gives it to pompeo and then pompeo is asked about it and here is what he says. what did you do i m not going to talk about the inquiry this morning. did you relay his concerns to the president? look, i came here today to talk about workforce development. i came here today to talk about the great things going on here in kansas. greg, why do you think pompeo is acting like this and not sharing what he knows? well, erin, i think either the secretary was not in the loop on this, what you might call unholy effort to shake down the ukrainians. or he was in the loop and obviously can t disclose that
me. and i think at the end of the day when this is over i think we probably will know the whistle-blower s name when this history gets written, he did play an important role and people will want to know who that person is. when the whistle-blower got it all wrong obviously the whistle-blower didn t. trump asked ukraine s president to investigate the bidens true. work with guiliani to do so. true. and of course trump s own hand picked inspector general thought this was urgent and credible. so none of this whistle-blower is false adds up but the whistle-blower s attorneys have said they ll answer written questions. greg, the president of the united states says this is just unacceptable. written answers not acceptable he tweeted. he must be brought forward to testify. that is trump s tweet today. yet in the mueller report, we see the president, what, say 15 to 20 times he doesn t recall all in written responses. so it is fine for him but not fine for the whistle-blower.
nia malika henderson and greg brower. thank you all for coming on. a lot to discuss here. john, i m going go to you first because this was a very strong warning based on this testimony to avoid rudy giuliani. we also have not seen giuliani out on tv defending the president like he has in the past. what does that say to you? it shows a sudden bit of wisdom in the white house to not have rudy out there. he was causing them more problems than he was solving. i think that they got the message that this wasn t healthy, and he s clearly tainted right now, and i don t think that s over and it will get worse before it gets better, so they re stepping back. does it also, in a way, kind of emphasize to you, greg, this notion that, you know, the president was relying on his outside attorney over his own nsc officials who are kind of warning each other internally like, hey, don t deal with this outsider. right. that the president is leaning on