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glenn, i didn't say lock her up, but the people would say lock her up blocker robe, white. okay. >> of course. he didn't say lock her up multiple times obviously. but to david's point, he didn't have hillary guard temp tab, hillary clinton prosecuted as president should people take comfort in that? >> well i guess but he also just took it back. you like it's not saying like no back that mean down is saying maybe that he should and so people should feel maybe less comforted going forward. one great things about david urban. i know him very well. when you see him dealing with young people and he did deals with young people from the pores backgrounds. he is about personal responsibility and that's why he's respected by republican, democratic curious about kids who cares about values and he doesn't, he doesn't care about color. the problem is, when now, when you're talking about non trial, his personal responsibility to give those documents back, that he had when he was asked, you should hold the same standard you please kids do david, he should have given those documents back
come true. donald trump delivers forsee the americanthei people.e, he doesn't care whether you're black, whether amu're white, hispanic, asiat c native american. he believes in the american people. he bs in i'm excited to be a pac of the conversation of makingmag sure we get four more yearse of donald trump. >> iget t doesn't matter the ti, it matters the passion and the energy we bring to the table t to prove to the american peopler four more years in the donald trump is not just an opportunits y. it's coming their way. t' it's my job. senator, i know we're friends. we've been friends a long time. >> if asked, would you accept? >> well. a >> well, number one, i haven't been asked. let me just be clear on that. number two, i know that to do that, i'm asking so that, yes, you do have to ask. i will do it. i will do whatever i can
at. think about the people who he's going to put in and what they may want to go after. let's not forget, if donald trump doesn't care about it, he doesn't care what his staff is doing. so i also worry for the people he puts in the doj what kind of investigations they may do to former business partners, let's say, or just people they don't like at home. it's a really frightening thought. >> quite frightening, in fact. donna, donald trump's critique of president biden's executive action on immigration, it's pretty interesting considering just months ago he pressed republicans in congress not to support the bipartisan immigration bill and just leave the border issues languishing. how is that going to go over with voters? >> well, you know, i think the hypocrisy is pretty rich coming from donald trump. listen, i think it's going to be important on these issues for the biden campaign to be very clear about where they're headed on immigration, and frankly, what they already put on the table.
your client served time in connection with the same scheme. you've been saying he does not believe trump will serve time in prison. i want to play a part of his conversation that took place earlier this week and just get your thoughts. >> i'm afraid of him going to jail, not for him, not for his safety. that is on him. he has secret service protection. i'm more concerned for you and all of us and our families and for the american people because this clown had four years of being debriefed on national security issues. my concern is, in a prison situation, he's willing to give away these secrets, as i always say, for a book of stamps, and he will do it because he doesn't care. if america turns against him, he would rather see america burned to the ground, and that is who donald trump is, plain and simple.
workbook of stands. and he will do it because he doesn't care. if america turned against him, he would rather see america burned to the ground. >> strong words from michael cohen. first, your reaction to the verdict and also, are there concerns about what donald trump could say if he actually went to prison? >> you make an extraordinary verdict and an extraordinary moment and regardless of the legal analysis of the case, the reality stands that there is a man who has been convicted by a jury of his peers, who is running as one of the major party candidates for the presidency. that is of enormous consequence. and maybe even more shocking than that, a lot of us expected is not going to dent his support very much within his party. we've yet to see comprehensive polls after the ruling, but that is the sense of folks looking at the cross tab initially and it is remarkable
kate responded to trump's guilty verdict where he said, you just broadly the response. >> look, i think what he's has to do here is, is thread a needle that he's doing, which is he has to not politicized you. it's not country tribute to this idea of the framework that the trump campaign wants to paint around this, which is that it's politicized. it's all biden's doing. >> so he's got to be i think he has to be restrained as he has been throughout this process. but this i would i would disagree with brad and i actually think this presents an opportunity for biden. i think for these for these swing voters who are not gonna be able to stomach the idea of voting for a convicted felon for biden to drive effectively that this is somebody who has broken the law, has been found guilty by a jury of his peers and use that to paint a bigger picture about donald trump. and the fact that only cares about himself, that he's willing to lie and cheat and steal to get what he wants, that he cares about him. he doesn't care about you. i think biden can use that as he's making this broader message. and i think you saw him sort of walk that
rick: first thing that happened and part of what he said off camera is, hey, it's people i don't see that much and maybe don't think about them for a year and a lot of times think i'm going to send them a message. i knew this piece of information and an hour later i get a first recipient and then i'm the first person he reaches out to that he doesn't care for much. will: that's exactly right. pete: people you don't think about much and you're going to send them messages in the new year. will: that's not what happened. rick: my second thought to that was well, this is really nice. this text requires some thought to put into it to reply i better sit and think about this and then i got busy and then the next day i better think about it
that this is a great political opportunity for him, but it's just as much a political liability. do you think americans are paying attention to the charges in the case or has this all become background noise for an electorate pretty oversaturated with trump right now? >> well, if it's oversaturated then it's pretty impossible not to pay attention to it. let's just be honest. nobody is surprised by these antics from mr. trump in this courtroom today. but it was arresting to actually see it, to actually hear it, and to know he was so off the chain today with this hyperbole in a u.s. courtroom. let's just be honest once again. only in america could a rich white male get away with that kind of behavior. you and i both know, abby, had that been you or me or letitia or jamal, they'd be under the prison right about now. only a rich white male could get away with that in this courtroom. and i think it's arresting to
economy listen. >> we have a situation, which i believe the stock market goes up because i'm leading. i think if i wasn't leading the stock market would be 45% lower. and i think frankly, if i didn't win i think the stock market would crash. >> right but you said, when there's a crash you hope it's going to be during the next 12 months, because you don't want to be here herbert here. >> well i think there will be a crash if i don't. when and i say that, and i do not want to be you over. >> so, i mean, look. his wishes aside. do you see the economy having moved past the prospect of some kind of recession or crash, or is that still a possibility in the next 12? months >> well it's always a possibility. economists have a perfect track record on this. they have never successfully predicted it. so if it does happen it will happen for reasons that nobody is thinking about right now.
election, these guys get waxed on the ballot on the issue of women's rights alone. their answer so far is, you know, we should go for a 15-week abortion. they keep going more extreme. they know those policies are alienating them from every voter to win the election. the only thing left to do is some smoke and mirror show of the specter of the oversight hearings, the specter of an impeachment proceeding to distract everybody away tromtheir policies which are completely out of step with the majority of this country. >> the problem with that, though, is when -- the voters that are maga believe this is real. >> right. >> they believe donald trump is their friend. they believe that he would reach through the tv and help them if he could, and he doesn't care. when they don't get what they are being promised, they have already shown how violent they can get. that's what i think people in the national security world are worried about. when they get real disappointed when this doesn't come to fruition -- >> we see every day on social media these maga people mouthing off and threatening to bear