Howard Solman News Today

Is how wonderful it is. i mean, so you explain that to me. i mean, so which is the true michael dell? >> does it every get personal? >> i try -- i really try not to have it that way. in fact, interestingly, i have dinner with a bump of the ceos that we were involved with that thinked we helped them. we get invited back on the board a lot. >> when you go out to dinner, who treats? >> my apartment. i have a good chef. i dont charge them anything. i dont charge them anything. and i mean, i -- i had...