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Have enforcement which they dont, and the new convention -- >> no countries are really ever going to give them that. >> its high time that we had such an entity. >> i agree. >> whether its iko or something else. we have two major incidents that have cried out for this. >> miles, how do you know when youre buying a ticket on an airplane whether the airline that youre looking at buying at is, you know, making these decisions with extreme caution? there have been reports, air france, air china, wer...

Countries do that. >> okay. miles, a point you and i have talked about a bit over the past couple days, there were some airlines who felt this was no a place they wanted to fly and were not flying there. not all airlines. plenty of airlines going through this space. there were many that were not. >> some airlines are clearly smarter and better than others web it co when if comes to this kind of thing. they have better connections to security apparatus. they have a longer history dealing with con...

Flight. just as simple as that. >> we have to raise the bar generally. >> yeah. >> this is the issue here. and im, you know, iko on this was not fit for purpose. >> that i agree with, absolutely. >> iko was not fit for purpose. in fact, ill go further. the european aviation infrastructure, which something i do know something about, single european skies theyve been trying to get for some years, that wasnt pfit for purpose because that airspace should have been closed. >> aviation, by definition,...

Of the napkin calculations what that had little bend in the route would have cost any airline, flying a 777. it would have been about $1,000 in fuel costs, thats $3 per person. i saw today, it was really good to see the chairman and chief executive officer of emirates airlines, which is the largest international player in the world on passenger count, calling for the airlines to get together and try to figure this out for themselves. that is a good sign because frankly, waiting for the united na...

>> miles, if i -- >> im with miles on this. >> well -- go ahead. tell me why. >> because ive spent the last few days trying to get sense out of iko. iko has said specifically that it was not its responsibility to close the air over ukraine. it was ukraines permission. euro control specifically told me it was not their responsibility. but you have left the responsibility with a country that has got deep military issues at the moment. >> a country which is dysfunctional. lets just say. whatever pa...

And so they do that, and they did do that to some extent. >> did ukraine do it enough? >> no, thats the question. what they are responsible for is determining what the risk is and communicating that risk to whoevers flying through their airspace. the hazard, the risk is whether its really gonna happen or not. they didnt evaluate that hazard properly and so now, off get a risky area that was not protected. >> so its the onus of the country? >> right. >> so communication with every single countrys...

Custody of those parts is extremely important because you have to create a chain of events and the custody is extremely important in the chain of events if they are disturbed in any way, it can lead you down the wrong path and change the investigation significantly. >> richard, i got to say if i had a loved one on board the plane or as a journalist interested in finding out the truth on this, the idea of having russian authorities, separatists authorities or frankly ukrainian authorities in char...

They ignored that, pushed ahead. people have said that public fissure is for show, that theyre really secretly still being run. i think its clear now that the ukrainian military is on the advance. the open at the same time statd dismay, theyre not getting what they expected out of moscow. and thats really going to be key now. do they look to russian officials to move in and investigation, or theres no real investigation actually happening. were in a very violent civil war at this point, anderson...

>> there isnt now and thats a good thing because now theyre being reported. theyre free to say, hey, i was in a tough situation. i messed up so im reporting it now. partly this amount of new reports is partly due to that. however, i wouldnt say that its entirely due to that. there are problems with our airspace, with how things happen around airports particularly. >> lets be honest, david, its not like there will be less planes in the air as time goes by. thats something you focus on a lot and h...

Is iko, what he had to say to me that was most striking, really, the fact by september they will have flight tracking systems but he also said in the next 20 years this airspace will double. the number of airplanes will double. so this problem is not going to go away unless we do something. >> that would be great news for people who want to see whats happened ever happen again. >> that satellite tracking and control. that is the only thing to prevent these kinds of things. >> theyve been talking...