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Use signer mechanisms on critical infrastructure. you could count in that our lector call mechanisms, you could count the power grid, our financial infrastructure and military systems that now defend on networked capabilities. the other thing thats essentially constant signer probing, espionage, gathering of illicit information, which isnt per se an attack. when it comes to the former, direct attacks on critical infrastructure, theres not really a kind of beat the russians at their own game solu...

Crack pots. thats why you always bring someone else along to see what kind of crazy stuff they might say. >> brian lanza, to counter that, though, ive seen quotes from donald trump, jr., talking about the difficulty of doing business in russia. and one of the problems is, you never know who youre meeting with and you never know their agenda. hes savvy enough, to jasons point, but he knew enough about russia to know that its kind of a murky area and you dont know who youre meeting with. >> i dont...

Information about your opponent, of course youre going to grab someone else. the reality is there werent a bunch of junior staffers or other people. so he probably grabbed whoever the closest folks were to him and pulled them in. so the most honest answer is the most direct and straightforward one. >> its not like hes in a mcdonalds and someone comes up and says i have this information. this was through a contact who worked on the miss universe pageant in russia. so there must have been an e-mai...

Going to bat for the kremlin and inviting the proffering of negative information about hillary clinton. so i think thats why it is so substantial. at the very least, it suggests that at the highest levels of the campaign, they were okay with sitting down with someone like that. even if this meeting didnt get that kind of information. >> anderson, you just said to ryan, you said, well, he didnt know her name, but he invited paul manafort and jared kushner in a meeting. this is what is so crucial....

Went nowhere, but had to listen. im keeping them honest before getting further into the meat of the story, theres ethics professionals, most notably republicans who say no, he didnt have to listen. richard painter joins us later, who tweeted, when a russian agent calls to off a dirt, a loyal american will call the fbi. now, to be accurate and fair, we dont know that the russian lawyer trump jr. met with is a russian agent, only that she was on the fbis radar and has ties to vladamir putin. cnn h...

Know who he was sitting down with and brings paul manafort and jared kushner in, all i would assume have a lot of stuff to do? >> absolutely. don, jr. is someone who has been successful in business. hes not someone who has been a traditional political operative. so someone says they have information about your opponent, of course youre going to grab someone else. the reality is there werent a bunch of junior staffers or other people. so he probably grabbed whoever the closest folks were to him a...

>> donald trump wasnt soliciting. >> he accepted a meeting. >> what was the solicitation? >> he showed up at the meeting and asked for the information -- >> no, thats -- now youre changing it. he didnt solicit anything. >> showing up -- >> how do we know? we have no actual fact. [ overlapping speakers ] we dont know who solicited what. this is all from a statement of donald trump, jr. >> so brian cant say that he was soliciting, and therefore it was breaking some law when he wasnt soliciting. no...

When you issue a first statement and then you have to correct the statement with a second statement, you believe the credibility is iron clad there? >> ive read both statements and i dont see theyre inconsistent. certainly the facts are additional in the second one about the opposition research that was being offered. >> if i told you i had a meeting with someone about adoption in russia, and then it turns out it was about dirt on hillary clinton and sanctions, i mean, i -- >> listen, anderson, ...

And then you have to correct the statement with a second statement, you believe the credibility is iron clad there? >> ive read both statements and i dont see theyre inconsistent. certainly the facts are additional in the second one about the opposition research that was being offered. >> if i told you i had a meeting with someone about adoption in russia, and then it turns out it was about dirt on hillary clinton and sanctions, i mean, i -- >> listen, anderson, im not suggesting this looks good...

[ overlapping speakers ] we dont know who solicited what. this is all from a statement of donald trump, jr. >> so brian cant say that he was soliciting, and therefore it was breaking some law when he wasnt soliciting. none of us were there. >> why was he at the meeting? because he thought that the lawyer was going to proffer some information thats correct ben -- benefit the trump campaign. >> and there was nothing. >> he showed up because he had been promised dirt on hillary clinton, and he show...