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i think he is -- he's very much involved in online gaming and that's great. he is able to maintain social contacts but i think there is a loss of an ability to interact in person that might be happening, as well, my kids hate me for it but i put them on a schedule and have them study at home but i don't think that's going to be quite enough going, you know, going forward. i want them to have that kind of in person learning, if possible. >> so when you talk about, i mean, you're very clear about where you stand and i think it's important, right? you're very open about how you see things. in your school, are there disagreements? i mean, is this something that know divides parents and families, feelings on things like mandates and masks? >> i think so. i think very much so. i mean, we're trying very hard to support as far as i can tell, many of the parents are trying very hard to support the school. we do support the school and are
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