about it and not about because it s qatar and things nor about the circumstances, which was clear. and this is where we are guilty. that s how it is. but now, telling players you have to wear this armband or if you don t do it, then you are not on their side. and if you do it, you re on their side. no, no, no. it s footballers. it s a tournament we have to organise and the players go there and play and do the best for their countries. joining me isjoey durso investigations writer at rhe athletic, miles coleman, producer and writer of fifa, uncovered a new documentary on netflix, and beth fisher, who s a freelance sports broadcaster. welcome to you all. joey durso, let s start with you. isjurgen klopp right that journalists dropped the ball on this one when it comes to qatar? no, i don t think he is. i think there s been lots of fantasticjournalism on this. i think you have to look back to the sunday times reporting on the bidding process itself. and there s been countless reporting on
said again this week that qatar should never have won the bid. so how did it happen? have a listen to what the liverpool manager, jurgen klopp, said last week about where he thinks the blame lies for the decision to go to qatar. you are alljournalists. you have should have sent a message who didn t write the most critical article about it and not about because it s qatar and things nor about the circumstances, which was clear. and this is where we are guilty. that s how it is. but now, telling players you have to wear this armband or if you don t do it, then you are not on their side. and if you do it, you re on their side. no, no, no. it s footballers. it s a tournament we have to organise and the players go there and play and do the best for their countries. joining me isjoey durso investigations writer at rhe athletic, miles coleman, producer and writer of fifa, uncovered a new documentary on netflix, and beth fisher, who s a freelance sports broadcaster. welcome to you all. joey du
so how did it happen? have a listen to what the liverpool manager, jurgen klopp, said last week about where he thinks the blame lies for the decision to go to qatar. you are alljournalists. you have should have sent a message who didn t write the most critical article about it and not about because it s qatar and things nor about the circumstances, which was clear. and this is where we are guilty. that s how it is. but now, telling players you have to wear this armband or if you don t do it, then you are not on their side. and if you do it, you re on their side. no, no, no. it s footballers. it s a tournament we have to organise and the players go there and play and do the best for their countries. joining me isjoey durso investigations writer at rhe athletic, miles coleman, producer and writer of fifa, uncovered a new documentary on netflix, and beth fisher, who s a freelance sports broadcaster. welcome to you all. joey durso let s start with you. isjurgen klopp right that journalists
were being evaluated, | like nobody took qatar particularly seriously l the qataris admit them themselves. so, to some extent, not a ton was being written about them j because everyone looked at that bid and went, well, surely they re not going to go for that. . when they did, there was obviously kind of- a big shockwave and people, you know. went and reported on it more. that s naturally how. things go in reporting. but i think the important thing to to focus on with| the klopp comments is let s take the counterfactual. - let s imagine that people had published reams and reams l of paper saying how dangerous the qatar world cup would be for workers, i how impractical it d be. let s imagine that there - was just hours of of air time and millions of column inches devoted to it. . it wouldn t have madel a blind bit of difference because the 22 men | and they were all men who voted for this they - didn t even read the bid book. didn t even read the bid book, really. we spoke w
at rhe athletic, miles coleman, producer and writer of fifa, uncovered a new documentary on netflix, and beth fisher, who s a freelance sports broadcaster. welcome to you all. joey de sao, let s start with you. isjurgen klopp right that journalists dropped the ball on this one when it comes to qatar? no, i don t think he is. i think there s been lots of fantasticjournalism on this. i think you have to look back to the sunday times reporting on the bidding process itself. and there s been countless reporting on human rights including this very interesting documentary, which i m looking forward to watching. it s four years after russia invaded ukraine, and then, you know, the world cup. i think a lot of the very good human rights reporting was forgotten when the football started. and then look what happened. i think people are kind of determined not to make the same mistake. 0k. beth fisher, what s your view? i mean, is it a legitimate criticism, do you think, from jurgen klopp? listen