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jack would only be speaking to an attorney, that the feds would likely be there soon. and within 20 minutes of that conversation, there was a surveillance plane flying overhead. and we soon published our story. and at that point, of course, it was clear the fbi was already on to it as well. and then within another hour, hour and a half, the raid actually took place. so a number of vehicles showed up to the home, men in full military gear with military style rifles entered the property. and of course, teixeira himself was then apprehended. a moment in history and you were there to witness it. now, someone else with a byline on the story is aric toler, who's a researcher at bellingcat. aric, how did you...if we go back to the beginning of this story, if you like, or the beginning of your involvement with it, how did you first come across the documents? thanks for having me. so i came across them basically the way that almost everyone else did, which was the new york times published a story on, i think it was april 6th, that talked about the pentagon was looking into these leaks

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