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live. in a moment we're going to play a short portion of it, one that gives you a look into his state of mind and how he is trying to frame his defense to his supporters. i'm joined now by new york democratic congresswoman and house oversight committee member alexandria ocasio-cortez. thanks so much for being here. first of all, i just want to -- the little havana stop, that cafe, versailles cafe, one of the reasons we're told by his folks he was there is because the cuban american people know from political persecution. and i wondered how you might interpret that and what you think of that. >> well, you know, i think it's -- it makes -- it's not a surprise. during trump's remarks he was trying to somehow pin this as some great marxist conspiracy. but the fact of the matter remains that tn individual who r. tand u.s. national security secrets, nuclear weapons locations or, you know, nuclear site locations, sensitive materials, and put our nation at risk.

democratic congresswoman and house oversight committee member alexandra ocasio-cortez. thank you for being here. the little havana stock, that café versailles's café. one of the reasons we are told by his folks when he was there is because the cuban american people know from political persecution. and i wondered how you might interpret that and what you think of that? >> it is not a surprise that during trump's -- somehow pin this as some great marxist conspiracy. but the fact of the matter remains that this is an individual who retained u.s. national security secrets. nuclear weapons locations or nuclear site locations. sensitive materials. and put our nation at risk. frankly, this is beyond just the cuban community, the latino community at large in the united states also has a profound sense of patriotism. and understands right from wrong. from understanding

agency when he didn't like the figures on deforestation, the formerforeign minister described the climate crisis as a marxist conspiracy. it all added up to being very, very dismissive of science, of experts. that's what i think viviane — viviane, that's what you're worried about? yes. yes, what she said. that's... but you contest this, all of what i quoted? yeah. - why that? when you look into| the facts, isolate... but you seem to dismiss the facts, you didn't want research. no, not research, but it was — you just gave an example. - the former president i of the brazilian institute for research, he was not fired because of the numbers. - he was fired because he was leaking information| to the press before presenting officially the information. - but president bolsonaro said — he said when he gave figures for record high levels of deforestation, president bolsonaro said those are lies. no, he didn't say exactly that.

described the climate crisis as a marxist conspiracy. it all added up to being very, very dismissive of science, of experts. that's what i think viviane — viviane, that's what you're worried about? yes. yes, what she said. that's... but you contest this, all of what i quoted? yeah. why that? when you look into| the facts, isolate... but you seem to dismiss the facts, you didn't want research. no, not research, but it was — you just gave an example. - the former president i of the brazilian institute for research, he was not fired because of the numbers. - he was fired because he was leaking information to the press before - presenting officially the information. . but president bolsonaro said — he said when he gave figures for record high levels of deforestation, president bolsonaro said those are lies. no, he didn't say exactly that. what he said was it was not - the record, the highest number of deforestation was not

at that time, i continue - to have the same position. the fact is that brazil has a lot of bureaucracy, - regulations that should be reduced, rationalised and other things, - and what i said at that ministry was "let's take advantage - on the fact that we can do things . without passing in congress at that time," because at that time, - we had a president of the chamber on the fact that we can do things . without passing in congress at that time," because at that time, - we had a president of the chamber completely against the government. so, therefore, everything - that we tried to pass in congress were not be approved. yes, but i think viviane�*s — viviane�*s question is different, and it was that if you look at the record, that you cut the funding, the university funding into science and agriculture, research linked to agribusiness, you — president bolsonaro fired the head of the space research agency when he didn�*t like the figures on deforestation, the formerforeign minister described the climate crisis as a marxist conspiracy. it all added up to being very, very

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well, listen, in regard i to the minister meeting at that time, i continue - to have the same position. the fact is that brazil has a lot of bureaucracy, - regulations that should be reduced, rationalised and other things, - and what i said at that ministry was "let's take advantage - on the fact that we can do things . without passing in congress at that time," because at that time, - we had a president of the chamber completely against the government. so, therefore, everything - that we tried to pass in congress were not be approved. yes, but i think viviane�*s — viviane�*s question is different, and it was that if you look at the record, that you cut the funding, the university funding into science and agriculture, research linked to agribusiness, you — president bolsonaro fired the head of the space research agency when he didn't like the figures on deforestation, the formerforeign minister described the climate crisis as a marxist conspiracy.

regulations that should be reduced, rationalised and other things, - and what i said at that ministry was "let's take advantage - on the fact that we can do things . without passing in congress at that time," because at that time, - we had a president of the chamber completely against the government. so, therefore, everything - that we tried to pass in congress were not be approved. yes, but i think viviane�*s — viviane�*s question is different, and it was that if you look at the record, that you cut the funding, the university funding into science and agriculture, research linked to agribusiness, you — president bolsonaro fired the head of the space research agency when he didn't like the figures on deforestation, the formerforeign minister described the climate crisis as a marxist conspiracy. it all added up to being very, very dismissive of science, of experts. that's what i think viviane — viviane, that's what you're worried about?

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