as it was to look over perhaps more so where the victim s mother was seated when she lifted her arms up in the air and pumped her arms as if in great relief that finally she got the justice she said she sought. so that was interesting to follow along that point. and when he left the courthouse a source tells me that he was telling his jailers on his way to his new prison that he said they got it wrong. i didn t do anything wrong. and so apparently it still hasn t set in yet or he knows he is already facing another trial coming up. and, mel, what was so interesting was how quickly this all progressed after the verdict. you saw all 15 jurors including the alternates, come out giving a lengthy press conference answer most of the questions posed to them and say they will only speak in unison. do you recall a group of jurors so unified? reporter: you know i
because they are playing for the long run. remember what they did in their case. that is the defense. they put up exerts to talk about computer experts. the ring leader was tamerlan and experts to talk about the fingerprints, the bomb, the pressure cooker and fingerprints that were found and ultimately was his brother. i think you ll hear them setting up, that is the defense, the later argument which was the minimal role he was certainly just going along with the person who controlled this, who inspired this and who led the way and that was the real guilty person. he is dead. that s his brother. mel, let s talk about the state. while some may believe this is open and shut, you contend that there are some elements that the state has not proven beyond a reasonable doubt? yes, victor. you know, there are 30 counts and i suspect you will see a conviction on all 30 counts, however, there is very troubling questions that were never
police fire at least 210 shots. tamerlan dies after a suv runs over his body. then dzhokhar is caught. let s talk more about this and bring in cnn commentator and legal annist mel robins and with us is also with us is joey jackson. good to have you both with us. good morning, victor! joey, first to you. what do you expect to hear from the defense? what will they do or hope to do in these closing arguments? it was all about tamerlan. now remember this. the judge has severely limited, victor, the ability of the defense to do so much which is what they want to do. i think we will hear about it in the penalty phase. i m presuming a guilty conviction. you know what? i think ultimately the defense makes that same presumption
reasonable doubt, where they got that much explosive powder and actually where the bombs were built. mel expects a conviction on those 30 counts. joey, do you? i really do. i mean, ultimately, i don t think that that is really what we are all focused on and at the edge of our seats on, whether there will be a conviction on 30 counts. i think the real issue lies again, not that i m a forecaster at all but when you are have the defense team even saying, my guy did it, you know, we can t talk about why but we will hear a lot who this person is and how he grew up and what he was all about in the neck phaxt phase o trial. i think the next issue is what are the aggravating factor that put out by the prosecution that warrant death and what are the mitigating factors that lessin it to have the jury spare his life. that is the question will he live or will he die? are we expecting an even
impartial trial. do you agree? i completely disagree. and frankly i find it insulting. he s before one of the most respected federal court judges in this jurisdiction. they are meticulously scrutinizing every single thing that they do. as i mentioned earlier, he s got the number one death penalty attorneys in the country representing him. they have made multiple appeals already. and to suggest that he can t get a fair trial in a city of at least 5 million people and to say that they can t find 12 open-minded jurors that can take a look at this case and view him as presumed innocent and look at the facts, i find it to be insulting, frankly. mel, really quickly here, you say he has the best defense on the planet. how do you think they are going to depend him? i think what you re going to see them do is create a narrative around his life story. many of us have already said