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Ashley, good morning. >> ashley: senator rand paul and dr. fauci butting heads over response to covid-19. rand paul accusing dr. fauci of squashing the wuhan lab issue. >> to create a quick and devastating published takedown of three prominent epidemiologists and you keep coming back to personal attacks on me that have absolutely no relevance to reality. >> ashley: fauci accused senator paul of distorting everything about him and pauls quote, usual fashion, and went head-to-head with senator mar...

>> office cannot find them, where would they be if they are public knowledge? >> he is happy to give it to you if you were to ask. >> what a moron. >> ashley: something to hear. marshall saying, having a bombshell report show he did award u.s. tax dollars to the wuhan lab and being called out about disclosures, calling me moron during a senator hearing may have alleviated the stress, but didnt take away from the facts. the white house top doc could find himself in hot water. james comer demand a...

And what changes have been forced on it by the legislature? >> one thing that is extremely important, is that secretary of states office cannot just be about registering individuals to vote. it has to be a full-fledged focus on civic engagement. we have to show people how to not only registered to vote and vote, but how to get involved, advocate with the state legislatures. this office will make sure that people are dialed in so that they see when your bills that will literally take away peoples...

Democrats that the justice department has not provided enough information. i think youre going to hear more about that but of course, john, now that its under investigation by the inspector general it may take a little more time to get the answers. >> let me walk through this with you in the sense that the inspector general, whose name as come up several times in recent years, mr. horowitz who is well-respected within the adopt. what authority does he have? this started under jeff sessions and r...

With an outside entity that has to deal with some of the activity of people still at the department of justice and fbi. >> i think they make a good point because the utah federal prosecutor san in fact seek indictments, can bring charges for something that michael horowitz in the ig office cannot do. >> exactly. what michael horowitz has going for him is he is good before congress for decades. complaining about some of the problems, showing us some of the things wrong at department of justice. i...

To deal with some of the activity of people still at the department of justice and fbi. >> i think they make a good point because the utah federal prosecutor san in fact seek indictments, can bring charges for something that michael horowitz in the ig office cannot do. >> exactly. what michael horowitz has going for him is he is good before congress for decades. complaining about some of the problems, showing us some of the things wrong at department of justice. including double standards for ho...

To accept the pardon? >> ill answer your last question first, which is, acting like a check on the system. you mentioned about how hes an older man and people who are detained werent showing that kind of sympathy, basically. to people questioning what is going on here, it wasnt about racial profiling. theres a lot of misinformation about that. this was a conviction for defying an order that said that the sheriffs office cannot enforce federal immigration law, that they were not deputized as fede...

Its a witch hunt. the entire thing has been a witch-hunt. so witch-hunt continues. >> how many people are going to follow this president into a war against mueller? joining me now charlie sykes msnbc political analyst and author of how the right lost its mind. and hue hewitt host of saturday mornings right here on msnbc. hugh, im going to start with you. how do you defend the rudy giuliani comments? he all but admits that the campaign f offered, wanted to commit a crime? >> it is not a legal str...