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Especially in dallas at the time and, yeah. >> dallas was called the city of hate. it was the absolute epicenter of that kind of reactionary politics and people were concerned for kennedy for exactly that reason, absolutely. >> theres been this consternation about the president-elect sort of ducking the media and going to a restaurant. do you understand the importance -- do you see the importance of having a press pool around the president and president-elect? >> certainly, of course i do. i bel...

>> yes, he did. >> now, we now have actuary studies that show in 46 states that the premiums for people that were supposed to save $2500 are going up significantly on average as a 10,000 -- >> obama care. >> can i finish my question, on average, a $10,000 swing. so a $10,000 swing. so i want to understand from your point of view does it matter to you that the presidents promise broken? >> i think it matters that we ought to let this law take effect. optimize it, exchange it, 100s of thousands of...

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