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big money and that have so much power. >> it sounds like you think the phrase finish the job is something to rally around and there needs to be more than that. >> well, it's -- yes. you need to recognize that not only have we accomplished a great deal the first three years, and he deserves credit for that, but there are so many long-term problems that this country is facing. does anybody in america think that our health care system is working? and yet the insurance companies make tens of billion of dollars and drug companies make tens of billions of dollars and we don't have enough doctors, nurses, mental health providers, pharmacists, dentists. so we need fundamental reform in health care, and by the way, the existential issue of our time is whether or not we address climate change, and we have made some steps forward, but there is no question in my mind if we're going to allow our kids and grandchildren to live in a healthy plan net, we've got a lot, lot more to do. >> do you think there should be a robust discussion on this on the left if there were a competitive primary? do you think there should be? >> well, i think in this particular time, this particular moment in american history when
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