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Transcripts for MSNBC Velshi 20240604 14:52:00

event, because one terrorist group is going to face another terrorist group of putin. it s going to play for ukraine. that s what makes us motivated. another thing that i just wanted to add, mom luka has been fighting the russians since the early 1990s. he was 14 or 15 years old when he fought in a plaza. and then from there, he fought the russians on the first civil war. his experience of fighting moscow goes back more than 30 years, and so he is one of the few soldiers here that s can recall his childhood, where he actually took up arms against this ongoing battle between russia and putin this is an important point you bring out, because mamuka, we in the west have largely come to no prigozhin s name since the invasion last year.

Transcripts for MSNBC Velshi 20240604 14:04:00

prigozhin has claimed that it s his fighters who have been key in securing back mood, the town we ve been talking about for weeks and weeks and weeks. really, he wasn t getting the support of the russian military. it has never gotten this far. this was a real surprise. in the fast 12 hours or so prigozhin coming out with this very aggressive statement, basically accusing the russian elites of prosecuting this war for their own benefits. and then, extraordinarily, in the early hours this morning, moving on to russian territory with his fighters. he claims to have about 25,000 fighters who support him, who follow him, and moving in on rostov-on-don. the situation there is a little bit confused, there is no confirmation, necessarily, that they have control of that city. it s a city of about 1 million people. they claim to have control of that military headquarters, russia has been leading the war

Transcripts for MSNBC Velshi 20240604 14:25:30

Transcripts for MSNBC Velshi 20240604 14:25:30
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Transcripts for MSNBC Velshi 20240604 14:55:00

the region of georgia, also they sent the forces that are hundred soldiers left actually. and for georgia, it s a chance territories. this is interesting and also because this mirrors the collapse of the soviet union, right? russia was so occupied in afghanistan with so many soldiers there that they couldn t, they just couldn t do all the other stuff all over the place. this is a country that, during the snowy times and in the post so we at times, has relied on his military might, its ability to put soldiers and weaponry and missiles and nuclear threat in places. a threat at home, regardless if this is the most serious threat or not, regardless if prigozhin will succeed in a coup, moscow has no choice but to defend against it, which means that moscow being an interventionist country all over the place starts to have its limitations starting today.

Transcripts for MSNBC Velshi 20240604 14:47:00

my opinion they will have to move the forces to defend moscow and moscow region in my opinion. it s going to feel better for us and territories way faster. go ahead terrell. yeah, another thing that you are talking about earlier, you have experienced fighting wagner mercenaries, and so you can speak to the capabilities of the chaos that s happening in russia right now. they were asked to use a has a capacity and capabilities to make it all the way to moscow. in my opinion, they do have that could be abilities because they are better trained, they are better equipped, and in my opinion, prigozhin was getting ready for this operation for quite a long time. he was getting the ammunition sent to him by russia, and taking it back to russia to start the fight with putin, in

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